Topic: Practical methods to help addicted gamblers(2). (Read 704 times)

It might not be possible to stay aware of all devices since phones and others have become part of our lives. But gambling addiction has caused people so much harm that they can do anything to come out of the problem. Except if you are using devices for business, it is possible to stay without a phone. You can decide to take a break from your job, inform family members of your intentions, and disconnect from phones and other devices.

There are still people that can be trusted. You can even decide to place a standing order in banks where they will automatically save part of your income.

Moving to the rural area is a good option for me. You can easily engage in other meaningful activities like gaming, fishing, and other adventures in the rural area. This could help to reduce your attention to gambling.

But, that's the most effective way for someone to quit from gambling, it eliminate almost everything to gamble. A big change require a big effort, going back to village will make you have a new culture and activities, we don't talk about the high paying in city, how big is possibility to make money through mobile phone etc since we're only focus how to cure a gambling addict.

Other practical methods can be a solution, unfortunately not all gambling addict listen to their expert/doctor.

First of all apart from gambling there are lots of things you can do with your mobile devices, we live ina digital age where everything we do requires a mobile phone, staying away from your device completely might not be a very good idea because there are other lucrative things you can do online to make money. Secondly, when it comes to money it's hard to trust, it's risky to put your money I'm people's hands cause they might be tempted to use it when they have a problem. Lastly, moving from the city to the village isn't a good decision, what if you have a job in the city, are you willing to throw your job away all in the name of relocating to the village to limit your gambling addiction? Other practical methods can be taken asides from all of these

I agree with that. Sharing our own method of how we can discipline ourselves to gamble responsibly is a good way to make others understand how it works. The problem is, not everyone will hear it out, if they do, they don't listen at all because gambling has become a bad habit that is becoming more difficult to stop, especially in this era where advertisements are left and right and just one click to that ads will pop out everywhere.
That happened to me a few weeks ago when I accidentally pressed a gambling site and now it's coming out everywhere in my social media applications.
Gambling has become a norm now and I think we should be more strict about how responsible we are when we are spending our money in gambling.

Speaking from experience gambling addiction is very serious, some call it a disease and some people have committed suicide die to losses.. giving advice is a very good idea but it might not be enough, steps should be taken to restrict them from engaging in gambling for a long time, idleness is also a factor to chronic gambling, if you are in a good position, you can provide a helping hand to such a person to get something to do instead of doing nothing (an idle mind is the devil's workshop)

Yups and that applies to anything we do in life, especially in the scenario of our involvement in gambling, and if we talk about the chances of winning and the possibility of losing in gambling then actually there is nothing wrong and nothing right, or what we mean is defeat, right? means because you made a mistake, and winning doesn't mean because you gambled correctly, because in problem gambling the results always happen randomly, the point is that when you are lucky then you will win.

This means that a mistake is something that is not related to the results in gambling, a mistake that you make in your gambling activities is when you treat gambling beyond the limits of your abilities, such as gambling with an amount you cannot afford, or excessively determining the time, or having a wrong perspective towards gambling, such as considering that gambling is an activity that can provide income.

On the other hand, I hope you can explain the reasons why a gambler who is addicted will not be able to change, pay attention to other people by giving various suggestions according to the knowledge they have based on facts from their experience which ultimately makes him addicted, maybe that's good, but I think if you really realize that you are addicted and you also know what mistakes made you addicted then you should prioritize healing yourself rather than caring about other people, and you have said that experience is the best teacher, which means people should that can change.

Finding a more reliable means of income, it should be the ultimate target for the common man. Gambling is challenging and I wouldn't recommend it for anyone close to me becthe negative effects always end in devastated position. There's several methods to apply if one is keen on  stopping gambling, it's not consider an easy pathh down but the best results is strictly based on the physical changes.

This is a very prominent and the most effective of them all, I believe that stopping something is easier and faster when you replace that same thing with another thing of same or more importance.

Advising someone to quit something bad is more effective when it's done practically in this manner, like throw away this and replace it with that. Any sensible gambler who's grabbing for funds and gets such offer would embrace it safe from entirely lazy ones who're afraid to take up anything challenging.

I still buttress the need to have a signed agreement with the gambler tho be of good behavior going forward in order to keep his spot in the opportunity.

I believe someone who isn't having problems with their gambling activities doesn't need to hide that they gamble too, but they can use this as an example to make the other gamblers understand that if they practice patience and gamble responsibly, they won't have gambling ruin their lives but if they gamble recklessly and spend excessive amounts of money and time on it, they will have a lot of negative effects on their life due to gambling.

What I think is that if a person takes advice seriously and understands what they are being told and doesn't ignore such things, they will understand even if another gambler is advising them about gambling, they would know that they are saying what makes sense because they have experience in the same thing like them.

Experience they say is the best teacher. There's no one who can best advice you of a situation or a predicament like someone who is affected by it. Someone with first hand knowledge and experience understands the best way to advice you not to engage in the act. Addiction in gambling is a behaviorial type of addiction which affects one's mental health. While the addict understands he is addicted to gambling, he cannot change. Rather he can advice others to stop.

Most people that have been gambling recently are not doing it because they are having problems. The reason why most of them gamble is just for the sake of money, most of them just want to make money from gambling, and in the process of doing that, they do end up being addicted to gambling because some are always trying to win back their losses, which is really dangerous in gambling. Some won’t stop gambling because they believe if they don’t give up, they will end up winning big one day, so they won’t stop gambling even when they are supposed to stop.

Trying to ban gambling addiction finance can’t stop them from gambling. Addicted gamblers do end up doing crazy things just for the sake of gambling,  they might end up selling their properties or stealing from people just to make money to gamble.

Advising others to quit gambling while we are still active participants is akin to advising against swimming while already immersed in the pool, equally fruitless, as telling someone to abstain from alcohol while clutching a beer bottle. It is pointless. The members of this forum likely comprehend that if we ourselves indulge in gambling, we cannot feasibly dissuade others from participating in the activity.

But let us remember as fellow players, that gambling is not a healthy pursuit if done incessantly without restraint. Though we may still indulge in gambling, if we are able to exercise control over our gambling practices and tackle issues that may crop up as a result, we can mitigate the adverse effects, preventing it from consuming every aspect of our lives.

Personally, I don't think we can stop each other from gambling as long as we are doing it, but we can remind each other not to fall into self-destructive addictions.

I believe that any possible methods that will help an addicted player to play less is already good. They may seem insignificant at first glance and may even be ineffective, but over time on a subconscious level this can change and this will affect the player. This could be advice from friends to play less, or from a wife, it could also be the discovery of a new hobby for the player, which is really interesting to him and allows him to earn money at the same time, and other various things that can weaken his concentration from games. The addict will think about them every day and shifting his focus is already a small victory for him personally and the people around him. A long journey begins with a small step, so it’s never too late to start on the path to combating gambling addiction.

His advice is valid if we are advising someone that are yet to start their journey in gambling to not do it but if they are already a gambler, then your advice here is more valid. I think that an addict gambler can still make an advice and someone might still believe them if they see how hard their situation was. Even without an advice, we can still do a research of our own if we think we don't know what is there beyond simply playing the game.

We don't need to start a thing only to say that we can relate to what others have experienced. That's bullshit in my opinion and yeah that what if we are already addicted? Can they do something to help us? I bet they can't.

Someone who tries to tell others to stop gambling but they are still gambling is like telling people not to swim because the water is deep but they are already in the pool. That obviously won't have any effect and I think people on this forum also understand that when they are gamblers then there is no way they can prohibit other people's activities to gamble because it is clearly impossible, it's just that in this case we as both players must remind each other that gambling is not a good thing if it continues to be done without good control so that even if we still gamble in the end but when we can control the gambling activities we do and can overcome the problems that will arise from gambling then at least it can minimize so that we don't think gambling is everything.

I personally feel that we all cannot forbid each other to stop gambling as long as we are still gambling but we can remind each other so that we do not fall into a situation where we are addicted too badly which ultimately harms ourselves.
 

While I see the angle you're trying to make an attack out of, you also have to consider that some people believe that wisdom comes from experience. And what I meant by that is there are some people who will not believe, may not even listen to you at all, all because they don't think you have been in the same boat that they have been in. Which is where letting them know you're gambling or have been a gambler in the past takes a lot of relevance. You can basically give them advice based on experiences you have come to in the past, and then manipulate them in a way that suits your and their needs.

With your second stuff I would somewhat agree but the thing is that you have to teach people how to fish so they don't end up asking you for food all the time. Sure you can give them tips on how to find reliable sources of income but you have to get them the job itself, provided that they are already good from the gambling addiction they once experienced, and then help them secure it so they don't end up gambling again for money. I see your point but it's just that there's a couple of flaws in it that might end up causing you more trouble than good.

Indeed, there is no sudden transformation in the nature of an addict, nor is there a magic elixir that cures them in seconds, if an addict suddenly gets better and stops being addicted, it can only be said that they are playing their script too well and they will definitely do bad things in the future. The actual methods are just predetermined plans, even though more paper and ink is spent on the story, the addiction continues, instead of looking at the method, we should call an addict to action immediately, there is no need to hesitate and look for salvation from someone

If, as a gambler, you want to help other gamblers who are addicted to gambling, the best thing is to help them have a disciplined gambling lifestyle like yourself. You don't need to tell them to quit gambling totally because it will definitely be difficult for them to do that, and some of them will not even stop, so you can start by advising them and guiding them on how they can gamble with a budget and with a timetable. How they can manage their bankroll and also educate them not to see gambling as a source of income that can be relied upon. 

This is like removing access of these gambling platforms and gambling portfolio from an addicted gambler so that he or she has no option of gambling. This may be practical approach but may not belong lasting. An addicted gambler can still arrange funds from gambling from his friends etc and can gamble without others knowing about it.

A better and long-lasting approach should be like counselling of the gamblers so that he (the addicted) make up his mind himself to gamble with responsibility. He starts to know what is right and wrong for him and in this way when a gambler himself stops him from gambling excessively, then is the real turn around for him.

True, If a gambler is equipped with a good paying job, he would be distracted from participating compulsively in the game. However, addicts having been offered a work, still, don't have the control over themselves. It's mainly a problem that leads to seeing players who are gambling in their working environment. Moreover, trying to hide our gaming activities, just for the life of an addict may help the person, but would mare him whenever he finds out that we are also gambling under closed doors.

Nothing stops us from letting him know that we are also gamblers, but responsible. It'll open within the player, a mind that other players like himself actually control themselves from compulsive gambling. Having good gambling peers also influences the player in a good manner. Since it's a steady healing process, the responsible gambler only require the gambling sessions of the compulsive player to help moderate his excessive gambling habit. And save him from staying in the compulsive part of gambling for a long period.