Topic: Practical methods to help addicted gamblers(2). - page 2. (Read 704 times)

That sounds rather a matter of common sense and not explicitly on something completely associated to gambling, in my opinion. Nobody likes to be advised by someone who does not practice what they preach, that is a no-brainer and when comes to gambling it is rather subjective when we talk of people who are slowly sliding into a step of addiction.
For example, would you believe someone gambling twice a week is in a state of vulnerability and slowly sliding towards addiction or not? You probably think not, but in the eyes of certain religious people gambling that consecutively is a clear sign of addiction in their opinion. Again, it is very subjective.

To me, one of the most important steps to be taken in order to stay away from gambling addiction and even recover from it, would be to find a productive way to keep one's mind busy and away from think about wagering money constantly; I have seen people here in the forum suggesting to turn to video games to replace gambling, but completely turn on video games is not as productive, the ideal solution could be to get a job which is tolerable enough for the addicted person and keeps their mind busy from gambling. Though, the first paydays will be specially challenging to the person as they will be undoubtedly feel tempted to gamble with their paycheck.

A person who chooses to gamble just to pay off debts is either irresponsible or acting out of desperation. If he is irresponsible, it then means paying off his debts won't be enough to make him gamble less or quit gambling. He will need lots of rehabilitation to be able to see things the normal way. Most times what these people need is a professional help from someone who is trained to take care of those going through addiction and many other mental issues because as friends, we might assume lots of things and even offer helps that might not really be a solution. It is only when these affected gamblers get the right help and become mentally sound that they can take up good jobs and retain those jobs too.

That's the best approach as long as there's no expectation. The problem is, that most gamblers are expecting way too much from gambling that they want either a bigger win or to give back what they had lost. That's very difficult to happen.
If both odds are on our side as a gambler then they will lose their business and every gambler must understand this first before they jump the gun.
I've been playing so long that frustrations can sometimes get the better of me and I don't like it. Stress, that's true, if all it gives us is stress then might as well not gamble at all.
It's not like we are being forced to do it, we could use it as entertainment as long as we are ready to lose what we deposited.

We can not change a gambling addict when he does not want to change because an addiction is not a problem that develops all of a sudden and you can not end it without passing through a process of rehabilitation. If an addict has debts, you can start by paying off the debts because owing debts is why many gamblers are addicted to gambling. They got into the debt because of gambling and now they think they can go out of debt through gambling but it never ends well. Alot of young gamblers are addicted but they do not have a working job to help them since they are depending on gambling to make money. If they can get a real job that would help them to get money, they can reduced their gambling and stop being addicted.

Well since this is already the second topic, you must make it an understanding that talking about this isn't going to help someone that is addicted. It's always going to be the action that needs to be taken not the "discussion"

It's always going to be "practice makes progress"

This has probably been discussed enough that there are practical ways to approach addiction. The best way IMO is to have professional help.

Gambling is fun but personally if I'm stress, I would not gamble as I don't feel confident with what I'm doing. I mean, if I just want to relieve my stress, that means I'm willing to loss what I have as my focus is just to enjoy, that's very different when you are mentally prepared as you are being optimistic in winning when you are gambling. Maybe some would just gamble for fun and doesn't mind if they lose, and I think with that kind of mentality, addiction is less likely to happen to them.

To help someone with a gambling addiction can be very difficult and very challenging, but I will suggest encouraging such person with a gambling addiction to consult a specialist such a therapist that specialized on anything that has to do addiction can help in long way, educating a gambling addicted about the importance of good funds management can help too, so that such individual can not given too to gambling, but rather get used to a particular amount of money to be used for gambling.

Without action, they will not have a chance to cure their gambling addiction and only makes them deeper in gambling. Their gambling addiction becomes high with passion to continue playing gambling without stopping.
They will not see how to cure addiction as they will thinks gambling often than other people. If they can not playing gambling today, they will trying to search for other ways to gambling in the other days.
Asking for a professional helps will be necessary for them so they will gets the right methods that they can do to cure their gambling addiction. If they are serious to cure their gambling addiction, they will follows every process needed until they gets their second chance to have normal life.

That's true, in most cases someone doesn't suddenly get addicted to gambling, they have underlying issues such as depression and gambling is their getaway. There's always a deeper cause that the one that's displayed. Of course, it goes without saying that the person should be willing to change, otherwise, even if you ban access to casinos or to their finances, they're still going to find a way to override any obstacles you put in their way.

Professionals in the field of psychology so that evaluations can be carried out about addictions that make a person lose control.
But of course this will require a lot of money, because professionals charge quite expensive rates.

In addition, support from the surrounding environment and family is also quite important so that someone who is too addicted to gambling can control themselves and believe that they can escape the addiction.

Many people are addicted to gambling because they initially just want to release their stress with gambling, but in the end they focus too much on gambling.

Unfortunately, if the player remains addicted, even though he has heard their arguments and continues to ignore them, there is nothing more that can be done for him, individuals are responsible for their actions, each person.

We can't force someone to stop gambling, even if it's harmful to their mental and financial health, which we can do and convince them through arguments and suggestions.

Nothing forced will help, the addict will always find some way to get around the imposed barrier and go and bet in person/online.

Or he will find money to bet, if his relatives take away access to his account/money, especially if he has crypto that only he has access to (seed), he can continue playing if he still has access to a cell phone/computer with internet.

Practical methods like advising keeping him away from gambling or any other activities are just band-aid solutions. These are not meant to cure addiction, they will still go on and play, and they will find a way to play.

The only practical solution is to get the help of a professional because they will study the person's character, implement a plan exclusively for him, and monitor his improvement to get the desired results; a person's level of addiction can only be defined by professional, they know how to look addiction on a person.

Asides professional help, keeping these gamblers away from their possible triggers is a way of keeping them away from gambling, one of which is keeping every form of the casino away from them, making sure they don't get access to free funds frequently enough to finance their gambling habit. But the facts remain that you cannot give a very perfect help help to a gambler especially an addict except for a professional help.

Drastic measures need to be done and may be effective if the addicted gambler himself is also willing to undergo such process. Because if the person himself has no determination to change, he will always go back to square one the first chance he got.

And if you are one of the closest persons to the addicted gambler, you may want to know the root cause of him being addicted. Understand where he is coming from. Learning the bottom of it will give you insights on how to truly help that person get out of the grave. Because addressing what's on the surface will only waste the resources of the family but won't totally resolve the situation.

When people go to the hospital and are in front of the doctor for consultation, they do not ask the doctor if the doctor also has the same disease and if he has the same disease, if he managed to cure himself. That's not how things work. Anyone who needs help because they cannot control themselves should go to the doctor for treatment, they should not be worried or force the person who is giving them advice to go to the doctor to also go to the doctor knowing that the person who is giving them advice He plays and is in very good health. We have to be aware that gambling is not making many people addicted to the point that it becomes a constant topic, gambling has little contribution when it comes to the increase in cases of addiction, alcohol and drugs are the biggest problem.

I consider the few cases of addicted people to be an accident and that they should go to the doctor for cure. unfortunately some people will always abuse something and become addicted, this unfortunately happens in our society. Just to see that there are many people addicted to food and are overweight and are constantly in hospitals, so gaming addiction should not be seen as something alarming in the sense that there are a number of alarming cases, because there aren't. Also, no one should be ashamed to say that they play and no one should hide that they play


people who play hardly tell anyone that they look at gambling as a source of income, in my case I tell everyone that I play, but I don't look at games as a source of income


gambling is a good thing, and something that should be seen as entertainment. If a person comes to us and says that he plays to earn money, we have to ask him if he first pays all the bills and if after that he gambles, when he says yes, then we just have to tell him to play in moderation and always pay. accounts first and then play. Hardly anyone plays to lose, me for example, although I play for fun and only with a small amount, when I play I'm thinking about winning a bet and money, I'm not happy with a defeat. So the only thing we can do is give basic advice:

1 - only play with money you can afford to lose
2 - when you feel that you cannot control yourself, seek medical help

That's the other side of the coin, which doesn't necessarily mean that this is right and the OP's opinion isn't. Someone who has gone through gambling, and they aren't addicted themselves, has hands-on experience with gambling, and thus may be more suitable to give advice, as you're supposedly the role model of someone who's a responsible gambler, enjoying his time and earning some money in return every now and then.

In my opinion, if someone's addicted, drastic measures, along with therapy, are required, such as cutting their access to money, especially online payments, blocking their casino accounts, or even the websites themselves. 

I think people helping the ones addicted should always advocate for abstention. It's the clear path forward and the only solution that works with everyone.

While some people might be able to put themselves under control, it's not something guaranteed. So it's reasonable to say that if relapse is a danger that can affect most addicts, better just advocate for complete abstention for everyone. It's not only a matter of being taken seriously but also a matter of being responsible.

I want to say though the most important step any person affected by addiction can make is to accept his fault and take help.

It's like filling each activity with more positive things, so that it will divert the addiction quite effectively.
But the success also depends on whether the addict is himself.

Some of the practical ways described can be quite useful, such as staying away from all devices that are the main access to gambling.
and limit everything that will be related to gambling and most importantly there must be control from the closest people so that efforts to stay away from addiction can be netted according to plan.

This two will work, the last one is not practical, you will need another set of money for you to live in country side.

Other hobbies will help too, like any physical activities, going to gym regularly, carpentry, jogging regularly will boost you physically and mentally, it always works.

Also, if you want someone to stop being addicted to something he is doing, then definitely you, as a therapist or adviser who wants to make a positive change in the person's life, must tell him the issue or problem that such a thing is going to cause him negatively. You will tell him the good and bad sides of what he is doing, and he will now be the one to choose. I believe that for someone who wants his life to be better, he will definitely look for a way, regardless of how it is, to stop the act. Although for someone to stop an addiction, it must be a gradual process that won’t be done at once, I believe that after knowing the consequences, he will definitely stop the act.