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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 01:35:04 PM

Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Meaning this is casino house and not online right?

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Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Sorry but which country you from mate? because it looks like people at your place are very religious and this is rarely happening in most gambling supported countries.

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Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

A big NO that's for me .

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Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

Never that i did and i respect my God that is not supporting such.

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If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

That's why both are you are fool to believe that , or else God of other are stronger than God of another Grin

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Quote from: michellee on June 23, 2021, 04:01:13 AM

That's right. If we can have a wise mind, we will not panic and think about what we can do with the current situations. We can decide something that will not make us in trouble or lose money in trading or gambling because we will find out how to get out of bad situations. If we can do that, I am sure we will have control over ourselves and we will not even try to spend more money playing gambling.

for those who are addicted to gambling, of course, it is very difficult to control themselves because according to the experience of some gamblers I know, gambling seems to have flowed in their minds and it is addictive to players who always want to play and are eager to get profits, and they will continue to gamble. This is even if they get continuous wins without wanting to stop and of course the same thing will also apply to those who lose in the game and it triggers a grudge in their hearts so that they will come back again to avenge the defeat. I think it is very difficult for a gambler to be wise in controlling themselves and most gamblers will only stop when they run out of money and rarely stop when they win.

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To be sincere, no one gamble for just fun, it will be better if people face the fact and do what is right (have the knowledge to gamble profitable and understand the game rules) rather wasting their money and time.

Some people out there are playing gambling for just fun and spend their free time using gambling. And they do not try to chase the winning because that is not their reason to gamble. Facing the fact is difficult, especially for people who spend more than an hour and already spend more money and lose because they will think that the next rolls will be their luck.

You make two points in your response but I can only agree to one of it which is about facing the fact of gambling to be difficult and I don't see it as something that's difficult if the gambling lucky seeker that spent more than she can afford to, understand the major concept of gambling which is to provide an unsure chance of winning.
I will still say it again, no one truly gambling for the fun alone and there are many ways people can have fun if they want to not through gambling.
Let's face the fact.

Maybe you can say that is not difficult, but I doubt they can say the same as you for other people. Facing reality needs a wise mind to consider that what we did can not work as what we want while other people will become sad if they find that it does not work as expected.

It good to have a wise mind, follow ones instinct but gambling is just like crypto day trading in some aspect and only traders that took their time to seek for knowledge and understanding the basic part of it will have the wise mind. The same thing happen in gambling and only gamblers that took their time to make research online about the basic step to gamble profitable will have the wise mind.
This is what make understanding the fact about gambling.

That's right. If we can have a wise mind, we will not panic and think about what we can do with the current situations. We can decide something that will not make us in trouble or lose money in trading or gambling because we will find out how to get out of bad situations. If we can do that, I am sure we will have control over ourselves and we will not even try to spend more money playing gambling.

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Quote from: sujonali1819 on June 21, 2021, 10:22:59 AM

Doing prayer before doing gambling? It's really very funny to me. Who heard the prayer when we do? GOD right? I don't think there is any religion which look the gambling with a positive eyes. Society also does not take gambling as a good thinks. So I think prayer can not help someone to win in basically gambling.

The people who do it probably don't want to take responsibility for their actions and they don't like the idea that they are the reason for losing in gambling but that doesn't warrant us to say that it's a silly thing to do because we still have to respect others even if they are praying before gambling which is the last two words that I think might combine really good next to responsible and gambling, I think anything paired with gambling gets worse.

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Luck is the most important factor that brings us to victory and in gambling games of course have the potential to win or lose so that both will always go hand in hand in every gambling you play.
So I will never believe it if someone says that reading a prayer when you want to play gambling can give us victory.

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Quote from: sujonali1819 on June 21, 2021, 10:22:59 AM

Doing prayer before doing gambling? It's really very funny to me. Who heard the prayer when we do? GOD right? I don't think there is any religion which look the gambling with a positive eyes. Society also does not take gambling as a good thinks. So I think prayer can not help someone to win in basically gambling.

But there are people whom do really believe that it works specially into those people who do make some prayer first before playing and coincidentally won some amounts and telling it to themselves that playing to God does really work and this would already make as a habit.

I cant really blame some people because we do really stick into something if we had seen that it did really work out but honestly I don't see for prayer to be relevant
on gambling scene.

It all talks or matters with luck and theres no such thing about divine intervention in gambling activity.

The winning can be out of luck, but this coincidence of prayer before the win gives them the energy and believe prayer has got them win. Prayer is part of each and every activity connected with human life, now the same has come to gambling.

Most of the time people will never think about God when they're happy. In such way people pray when they're in loss and if that turns win after prayer then the gamblers start using it a routine before gambling unlike the win/losses.

in short, this is more of psychological factor. so are they going to curse their "God" in case they lost big time? let's admit the reality that it has nothing to do with the results. but people want to believe on things they want to believe in. we can't do anything much about that. let them be. as long as they not harming anyone. we are free to believe what we want.
on this aspect, we will see varying opinions, just respect everyone's beliefs.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 01:35:04 PM

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

Doing prayer before doing gambling? It's really very funny to me. Who heard the prayer when we do? GOD right? I don't think there is any religion which look the gambling with a positive eyes. Society also does not take gambling as a good thinks. So I think prayer can not help someone to win in basically gambling.

But there are people whom do really believe that it works specially into those people who do make some prayer first before playing and coincidentally won some amounts and telling it to themselves that playing to God does really work and this would already make as a habit.

I cant really blame some people because we do really stick into something if we had seen that it did really work out but honestly I don't see for prayer to be relevant
on gambling scene.

It all talks or matters with luck and theres no such thing about divine intervention in gambling activity.

The winning can be out of luck, but this coincidence of prayer before the win gives them the energy and believe prayer has got them win. Prayer is part of each and every activity connected with human life, now the same has come to gambling.

Most of the time people will never think about God when they're happy. In such way people pray when they're in loss and if that turns win after prayer then the gamblers start using it a routine before gambling unlike the win/losses.

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Quote from: sujonali1819 on June 21, 2021, 10:22:59 AM

Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 01:35:04 PM

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

Doing prayer before doing gambling? It's really very funny to me. Who heard the prayer when we do? GOD right? I don't think there is any religion which look the gambling with a positive eyes. Society also does not take gambling as a good thinks. So I think prayer can not help someone to win in basically gambling.

But there are people whom do really believe that it works specially into those people who do make some prayer first before playing and coincidentally won some amounts and telling it to themselves that playing to God does really work and this would already make as a habit.

I cant really blame some people because we do really stick into something if we had seen that it did really work out but honestly I don't see for prayer to be relevant
on gambling scene.

It all talks or matters with luck and theres no such thing about divine intervention in gambling activity.

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Quote from: michellee on June 22, 2021, 05:45:02 AM

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Quote from: michellee on June 21, 2021, 07:37:09 AM

Quote from: suzanne5223 on June 20, 2021, 09:51:23 AM

To be sincere, no one gamble for just fun, it will be better if people face the fact and do what is right (have the knowledge to gamble profitable and understand the game rules) rather wasting their money and time.

Some people out there are playing gambling for just fun and spend their free time using gambling. And they do not try to chase the winning because that is not their reason to gamble. Facing the fact is difficult, especially for people who spend more than an hour and already spend more money and lose because they will think that the next rolls will be their luck.

You make two points in your response but I can only agree to one of it which is about facing the fact of gambling to be difficult and I don't see it as something that's difficult if the gambling lucky seeker that spent more than she can afford to, understand the major concept of gambling which is to provide an unsure chance of winning.
I will still say it again, no one truly gambling for the fun alone and there are many ways people can have fun if they want to not through gambling.
Let's face the fact.

Maybe you can say that is not difficult, but I doubt they can say the same as you for other people. Facing reality needs a wise mind to consider that what we did can not work as what we want while other people will become sad if they find that it does not work as expected.

It good to have a wise mind, follow ones instinct but gambling is just like crypto day trading in some aspect and only traders that took their time to seek for knowledge and understanding the basic part of it will have the wise mind. The same thing happen in gambling and only gamblers that took their time to make research online about the basic step to gamble profitable will have the wise mind.
This is what make understanding the fact about gambling.

Quote from: michellee on June 22, 2021, 05:45:02 AM

I agree with what you say about people searching for other things to have fun, but some people will still use gambling to search for that fun because they feel that by playing gambling, they can enjoy their moment and express their feeling, whatever the result is.

Yes but they are trying to make money and having fun at the same time so the intention was not only to have fun that's why I said no one gamble only for fun.

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Quote from: michellee on June 21, 2021, 07:37:09 AM

Quote from: suzanne5223 on June 20, 2021, 09:51:23 AM

To be sincere, no one gamble for just fun, it will be better if people face the fact and do what is right (have the knowledge to gamble profitable and understand the game rules) rather wasting their money and time.

Some people out there are playing gambling for just fun and spend their free time using gambling. And they do not try to chase the winning because that is not their reason to gamble. Facing the fact is difficult, especially for people who spend more than an hour and already spend more money and lose because they will think that the next rolls will be their luck.

You make two points in your response but I can only agree to one of it which is about facing the fact of gambling to be difficult and I don't see it as something that's difficult if the gambling lucky seeking that spent more than she can afford to understand the major concept of gambling which is to provide an unsure chance of winning.
I will still say it again, no one truly gambling for the fun alone and there are many ways people can have fun if they want to not through gambling.
Let's face the fact.

Maybe you can say that is not difficult, but I doubt they can say the same as you for other people. Facing reality needs a wise mind to consider that what we did can not work as what we want while other people will become sad if they find that it does not work as expected. I agree with what you say about people searching for other things to have fun, but some people will still use gambling to search for that fun because they feel that by playing gambling, they can enjoy their moment and express their feeling, whatever the result is.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 01:35:04 PM

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

Doing prayer before doing gambling? It's really very funny to me. Who heard the prayer when we do? GOD right? I don't think there is any religion which look the gambling with a positive eyes. Society also does not take gambling as a good thinks. So I think prayer can not help someone to win in basically gambling.

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Quote from: michellee on June 21, 2021, 07:37:09 AM

Quote from: suzanne5223 on June 20, 2021, 09:51:23 AM

To be sincere, no one gamble for just fun, it will be better if people face the fact and do what is right (have the knowledge to gamble profitable and understand the game rules) rather wasting their money and time.

Some people out there are playing gambling for just fun and spend their free time using gambling. And they do not try to chase the winning because that is not their reason to gamble. Facing the fact is difficult, especially for people who spend more than an hour and already spend more money and lose because they will think that the next rolls will be their luck.

You make two points in your response but I can only agree to one of it which is about facing the fact of gambling to be difficult and I don't see it as something that's difficult if the gambling lucky seeker that spent more than she can afford to, understand the major concept of gambling which is to provide an unsure chance of winning.
I will still say it again, no one truly gambling for the fun alone and there are many ways people can have fun if they want to not through gambling.
Let's face the fact.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on June 20, 2021, 09:51:23 AM

To be sincere, no one gamble for just fun, it will be better if people face the fact and do what is right (have the knowledge to gamble profitable and understand the game rules) rather wasting their money and time.

Some people out there are playing gambling for just fun and spend their free time using gambling. And they do not try to chase the winning because that is not their reason to gamble. Facing the fact is difficult, especially for people who spend more than an hour and already spend more money and lose because they will think that the next rolls will be their luck.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 01:35:04 PM

Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

Betting on the outcome of matches is similar to tossing a coin. If someone believes that a coin is able to turn in his favor, he will probably believe that he prayed it. It really has nothing to do with it.
I suggest you do an experiment.
Someone can bet on 10 games and you toss a coin 10 times.
The probability will be very similar, and often even better, than that of someone who was emotionally betting on matches.

I suggested something similar but your sample size is too small, if someone tossed a coin 1000 times without praying a single time and then did the same while praying to get the results they want we are going to find out there is not a statistical meaningful difference between the two samples, which leads us to a very simple conclusion, praying has no effect on our probabilities, something that should be obvious without running this experiment but this can be done just to make sure this is the case.

It can't be done actually because how are you going to verify that the person actually prayed? What does praying even mean? Talk some bible verses? This experiment can't be done, but I guess most of us agree that calling for some transcendental power for your own good does not work out very often... Wink

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 01:35:04 PM

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

From my ten 10 years experience in gambling i understand that any winning game comes with luck not by perfection or how long you have been into it, God or gods never be a sure criteria for someone win a game constantly, so looking it to win gambling come from your star.

That means we need the luck to win the games and without luck, we will lose. But unfortunately, I want to say that luck will not come easily to you because luck only comes to the chosen one. So praying can only give us calm down before we play, but after we play, the tension in our body will increase and impact how we play. It is good if you can control yourself. Otherwise, you will not see your money with you for a long time.

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Quote from: Erdogan on June 18, 2021, 10:33:54 PM

Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 01:35:04 PM

Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

Betting on the outcome of matches is similar to tossing a coin. If someone believes that a coin is able to turn in his favor, he will probably believe that he prayed it. It really has nothing to do with it.
I suggest you do an experiment.
Someone can bet on 10 games and you toss a coin 10 times.
The probability will be very similar, and often even better, than that of someone who was emotionally betting on matches.

I suggested something similar but your sample size is too small, if someone tossed a coin 1000 times without praying a single time and then did the same while praying to get the results they want we are going to find out there is not a statistical meaningful difference between the two samples, which leads us to a very simple conclusion, praying has no effect on our probabilities, something that should be obvious without running this experiment but this can be done just to make sure this is the case.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on June 18, 2021, 04:30:06 PM

Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.

Knowledge will also be important for the gamblers because that will help them to play better and with luck, they will win the games.

Knowledge is the most fundamental characteristic needed in gambling not that it will also be important cause if a gsmbler don't have knowledge about games rules she have lost the game before the start of.

Yes, I agree with you. Everything will not be complicated if we have knowledge. But some people who gamble seem not to learn more about the games they like because they think that gambling will be only for fun.

To be sincere, no one gamble for just fun, it will be better if people face the fact and do what is right (have the knowledge to gamble profitable and understand the game rules) rather wasting their money and time.

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Quote from: michellee on June 19, 2021, 09:19:42 AM

Sometimes, people can not see the reality of gambling instead of still forcing them to play longer, making them lose more money.

Apparently, this are the people that lack the required knowledge and this is the reason why knowledge should the top priority of every gambler.

If that game is too complicated to play, they must learn to know how to play better and who knows that they can win the game by learning. But if that game does not require knowing more details about the game, they can skip it and enjoy their time playing the game.

You are right but they also need to understand the concept of gambling which is what some people don't understand and later lose all their winning fund.

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Quote from: michellee on June 19, 2021, 09:19:42 AM

Quote from: suzanne5223 on June 18, 2021, 04:30:06 PM

Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.

Knowledge will also be important for the gamblers because that will help them to play better and with luck, they will win the games. Sometimes, people can not see the reality of gambling instead of still forcing them to play longer, making them lose more money. But we can pray before gambling if we feel that can give us more confidence. But if it's not, we can directly play gambling and hope that our luck will come to us.

If you don’t understand the game always read the instruction and that’s a great knowledge came from since every games have their own instructions and you’ll master it once you keep playing that specific game. When it comes to prayer, we have so many belief and there’s nothing wrong with this one, just pray and play but never expect something.

If they only pray and play, that will not be a problem because that will depend on the game they played. If they do not have much knowledge about that game, they do not have to complain if they can not win.

@Johnyz, absolutely some people put their believe in praying to do the magic whereas it all have to do with their own preparation and knowledge. That's why I'm against praying and gambling.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 01:35:04 PM

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

From my ten 10 years experience in gambling i understand that any winning game comes with luck not by perfection or how long you have been into it, God or gods never be a sure criteria for someone win a game constantly, so looking it to win gambling come from your star.

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in a manner that our bets are opposites

There is no prayer for interference in human free will and events but this is not uncommon logic. In past wars one side would often claim to have the backing of god therefore a passage to victory, these are all misunstandings. A prayer in my understanding can only be said for the benefit of others and never to win gambling risks, the only chance of any success is work through people and a person in the bet has no personal fight past money. I totally believe OP when he says many do this but I only hope it clarifies that persons thinking for a moment, nothing else would work same for many hope systems to betting.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on June 19, 2021, 09:43:38 AM

Quote from: michellee on June 19, 2021, 09:19:42 AM

Quote from: suzanne5223 on June 18, 2021, 04:30:06 PM

Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.

Knowledge will also be important for the gamblers because that will help them to play better and with luck, they will win the games.

Knowledge is the most fundamental characteristic needed in gambling not that it will also be important cause if a gsmbler don't have knowledge about games rules she have lost the game before the start of.

Yes, I agree with you. Everything will not be complicated if we have knowledge. But some people who gamble seem not to learn more about the games they like because they think that gambling will be only for fun.

Quote from: suzanne5223 on June 19, 2021, 09:43:38 AM

Quote from: michellee on June 19, 2021, 09:19:42 AM

Sometimes, people can not see the reality of gambling instead of still forcing them to play longer, making them lose more money.

Apparently, this are the people that lack the required knowledge and this is the reason why knowledge should the top priority of every gambler.

If that game is too complicated to play, they must learn to know how to play better and who knows that they can win the game by learning. But if that game does not require knowing more details about the game, they can skip it and enjoy their time playing the game.

Quote from: Johnyz on June 19, 2021, 09:48:08 AM

Quote from: michellee on June 19, 2021, 09:19:42 AM

Quote from: suzanne5223 on June 18, 2021, 04:30:06 PM

Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.

Knowledge will also be important for the gamblers because that will help them to play better and with luck, they will win the games. Sometimes, people can not see the reality of gambling instead of still forcing them to play longer, making them lose more money. But we can pray before gambling if we feel that can give us more confidence. But if it's not, we can directly play gambling and hope that our luck will come to us.

If you don’t understand the game always read the instruction and that’s a great knowledge came from since every games have their own instructions and you’ll master it once you keep playing that specific game. When it comes to prayer, we have so many belief and there’s nothing wrong with this one, just pray and play but never expect something.

If they only pray and play, that will not be a problem because that will depend on the game they played. If they do not have much knowledge about that game, they do not have to complain if they can not win.

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