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June 24, 2021, 04:37:55 AM
I can't remember if I was able to pray while gambling, maybe I can't call it prayer but just a request.  In other types of gambling and non -sports betting such as bingo, lotteries, scratch cards, etc., there are other types of gambling that are still related to sports, but you do not bet on the team but the numbers or results of the scores.  .  For me, spiritual being has nothing to do with whether or not you win the gamble.  Maybe others are just in the habit of saying thank you in advance for what they believe regardless of the outcome of their bet.
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June 24, 2021, 04:35:06 AM
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Both answer is right. People will just see that is because of luck so they consider that it is the luck that help them win the games. Besides that, many things that help them but they do not realize so people will hope that their luck will come to them when they gamble. But prayer before gambling will not be a problem and some people will still doing that even if the result is lose.
I don't have qualms with the people who pray before gambling but I don't personally find the appeal of that because you are trying to appeal to something that doesn't exist. Luck is debatable because I don't really believe in it because gambling is full of probability and odds.
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June 24, 2021, 04:15:49 AM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

Who the gods will favor is a rhetorical question that deserve no specific answers. The gods will need to be neutral in this scenerio and everyone need to take responsibility of their decisions without blaming the gods because a winner must surely come out from the two teams. Maybe God should not be brought into this cause the possibility of a team winning depends on luck, work input and strategies that is used.
I've always been in this kind of state time comes time goes, whereby I just always accepted my fates since every gambler prayers is to win bets, not nobody want to lose.
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June 24, 2021, 04:03:02 AM
Exactly, you win not because God answered your prayer but because you're lucky. We should not connect the outcome of the game to what we prayed for, certainly its a coincidence if ever we win or its really meant to happen. Stop relying to what we dont see if we gamble, our knowledge, skills snd luck are the key to maximize our chance to win and hit the jackpot.
It's not luck that made you win, it's mathematics and probability that made you win in gambling, we just consider it lucky because we can't fathom the numbers and it's too small to consider although you are right that it's not God that made you win.
Both answer is right. People will just see that is because of luck so they consider that it is the luck that help them win the games. Besides that, many things that help them but they do not realize so people will hope that their luck will come to them when they gamble. But prayer before gambling will not be a problem and some people will still doing that even if the result is lose.
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June 24, 2021, 02:50:26 AM
Exactly, you win not because God answered your prayer but because you're lucky. We should not connect the outcome of the game to what we prayed for, certainly its a coincidence if ever we win or its really meant to happen. Stop relying to what we dont see if we gamble, our knowledge, skills snd luck are the key to maximize our chance to win and hit the jackpot.
It's not luck that made you win, it's mathematics and probability that made you win in gambling, we just consider it lucky because we can't fathom the numbers and it's too small to consider although you are right that it's not God that made you win.
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June 24, 2021, 02:45:03 AM
Gambling has nothing to do with God,one doesn't need to pray for it to happen,it happens according to what you played and according to how lucky you are on a particular game.I have prayed most atimes when I'm  staking a ga me and it never worked for one day.People believe it works when they happen to win a game not knowing it's coincidence.
Exactly, you win not because God answered your prayer but because you're lucky. We should not connect the outcome of the game to what we prayed for, certainly its a coincidence if ever we win or its really meant to happen. Stop relying to what we dont see if we gamble, our knowledge, skills snd luck are the key to maximize our chance to win and hit the jackpot.
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June 24, 2021, 02:33:47 AM
From my ten 10 years experience in gambling i understand that any winning game comes with luck not by perfection or how long you have been into it, God or gods never be a sure  criteria for someone win a game constantly, so looking it to win gambling come from your star.
I remembered one day that I prayed so well, I played bet that day multiple times and I won over $180 in just that day, this is my real life experience and I can never thought prayer at all resulted to it. Although, I can not say it is my prayer that led to the winning but it was kind of making me to think otherwise and confused. But be it anything, we should know the rules of gambling is the best and never thinking it winnings are as a result of prayer, but as a result of quality mindset we have towards gambling. No matter how someone pray, frequently gambling will result to losses. 
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June 23, 2021, 07:34:47 PM
Gambling has nothing to do with God,one doesn't need to pray for it to happen,it happens according to what you played and according to how lucky you are on a particular game.I have prayed most atimes when I'm  staking a game and it never worked for one day.
Everyone can have a different opinion about this. In my opinion, everything in this life is always related to God, including gambling. We are talking about luck, who gives the luck? It comes from God, God gives us the luck. We must know that the term of luck means something outside our mind, it happens unexpectedly. What we can do is to give our efforts, but luck cannot be planned by us. About you get nothing even you are praying, we all should understand that not each praying is immediately granted by the God. (Anyway this is what I believe)

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June 23, 2021, 07:08:26 PM
In gambling, only luck plays a vital role apart from the player's instinct, knowledge, and gameplay for few games. Apart from these prayer will just help to keep calm while gambling which is also important while you gamble especially during poker because not always it will go as the player thinks.
Even if one does not have luck with calmness with them would do wonders as seen live on tables.
How can a prayer keep you calm if you're playing for better luck and wins to come as you gamble?

It's not actually important in gambling and I find it really confusing but I guess if you're religious or it's depending on the religion you've got. Since in Chinese people, they're used to pray to their god for better luck as they gamble.
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June 23, 2021, 06:05:13 PM
Gambling has nothing to do with God,one doesn't need to pray for it to happen,it happens according to what you played and according to how lucky you are on a particular game.I have prayed most atimes when I'm  staking a ga me and it never worked for one day.People believe it works when they happen to win a game not knowing it's coincidence.
This is what im saying on where God has nothing to do with the things that we've been dealing in our lives specially with gambling.

There are no other things in life could really affect our luckiness in gambling as if these things do really comes randomly and there's no way you can
really make out something that could influence out.

So its not something that you should really rely upon when you do gamble and prayer is really a separate thing..
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June 23, 2021, 05:40:22 PM
I do not believe in any god myself but prayer is not strictly about being in line with god says, you could do something bad and pray for a good outcome, that is what the idea of a "god" is , doesn't matter which religion we are talking about, it could be tutu on the mountain in some African tribe as well and the whole idea of a god is that if you are in a bad situation you ask for help, even if it is a sin, it is still a sin that you want to get a good result from and that's fine, as long as you do not hurt others, which in fact sometimes even works, do you really think that all the people in the world who committed a crime were a non-believer?

Almost all of them were believers and the reason they still do is the human nature, gambling is NOWHERE close to those things, and not even in the top 10 things not to do by a religious person, hence there is no problem about praying while gambling.
Good point, very well said. Though, there is a part that doesn't sink well with me which is, "asking for good results from bad dids or sins". Sorry i had to rephrase that but then, a bad did is a bad did. The fact that it doesn't affect anyone in particular doesn't make it any good. Its still bad and most likely, would earn a bad result otherwise, why else do you say its bad. Garbage in, Garbage out. So I was thought in my computing lecture days in high school and its the thing about life too. You don't go to a mango tree and somehow be expecting an orange to fall off.
If the result is good, it means the process was good too. If the process was bad, though the result might seem nice at a point, it might be temporal and sooner than later, it would catch up to you. The law of karma!
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June 23, 2021, 05:23:50 PM
I do not believe in any god myself but prayer is not strictly about being in line with god says, you could do something bad and pray for a good outcome, that is what the idea of a "god" is , doesn't matter which religion we are talking about, it could be tutu on the mountain in some African tribe as well and the whole idea of a god is that if you are in a bad situation you ask for help, even if it is a sin, it is still a sin that you want to get a good result from and that's fine, as long as you do not hurt others, which in fact sometimes even works, do you really think that all the people in the world who committed a crime were a non-believer?

Almost all of them were believers and the reason they still do is the human nature, gambling is NOWHERE close to those things, and not even in the top 10 things not to do by a religious person, hence there is no problem about praying while gambling.
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June 23, 2021, 05:22:22 PM
 Gambling has nothing to do with God,one doesn't need to pray for it to happen,it happens according to what you played and according to how lucky you are on a particular game.I have prayed most atimes when I'm  staking a ga me and it never worked for one day.People believe it works when they happen to win a game not knowing it's coincidence.
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June 23, 2021, 12:11:32 PM
In gambling, only luck plays a vital role apart from the player's instinct, knowledge, and gameplay for few games. Apart from these prayer will just help to keep calm while gambling which is also important while you gamble especially during poker because not always it will go as the player thinks.
Even if one does not have luck with calmness with them would do wonders as seen live on tables.

As much as we all know that these rituals do not affect the chances of winning, these rituals help us mentally and psychologically especially when a person is experiencing deep stress from the gambling activities. Although it is highly advisable that once a gambler starts feeling desperate that he stops, it is easier said than done. That is why, rituals like these exists.

Like what I previously mentioned, these rituals may not affect the chances of winning but they are harmless little activities that definitely help especially under stressful situations.
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June 23, 2021, 12:09:11 PM
In gambling, only luck plays a vital role apart from the player's instinct, knowledge, and gameplay for few games. Apart from these prayer will just help to keep calm while gambling which is also important while you gamble especially during poker because not always it will go as the player thinks.
Even if one does not have luck with calmness with them would do wonders as seen live on tables.
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June 23, 2021, 12:08:14 PM
I suggested something similar but your sample size is too small, if someone tossed a coin 1000 times without praying a single time and then did the same while praying to get the results they want we are going to find out there is not a statistical meaningful difference between the two samples, which leads us to a very simple conclusion, praying has no effect on our probabilities, something that should be obvious without running this experiment but this can be done just to make sure this is the case.

It can't be done actually because how are you going to verify that the person actually prayed? What does praying even mean? Talk some bible verses? This experiment can't be done, but I guess most of us agree that calling for some transcendental power for your own good does not work out very often... Wink
Of course it can be done and I gave full instructions about how to do it, the experiment is a personal one and not a discussion about how people are supposed to pray, they only need to do what they do at the casino when they are wishing for the odds and the results to change in their favor, if they do this and they find no difference with the control sample then the conclusion is easy, praying does not influence the results no matter how hard they ask for it.
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June 23, 2021, 11:38:33 AM

That's right. If we can have a wise mind, we will not panic and think about what we can do with the current situations. We can decide something that will not make us in trouble or lose money in trading or gambling because we will find out how to get out of bad situations. If we can do that, I am sure we will have control over ourselves and we will not even try to spend more money playing gambling.

for those who are addicted to gambling, of course, it is very difficult to control themselves because according to the experience of some gamblers I know, gambling seems to have flowed in their minds and it is addictive to players who always want to play and are eager to get profits, and they will continue to gamble. This is even if they get continuous wins without wanting to stop and of course the same thing will also apply to those who lose in the game and it triggers a grudge in their hearts so that they will come back again to avenge the defeat. I think it is very difficult for a gambler to be wise in controlling themselves and most gamblers will only stop when they run out of money and rarely stop when they win.
I guess they who have been addicted to gambling will not even think about becoming wise in gambling. The winning in the gambling can tempt them to still playing and keep whispering in their ear to place the next bet. Even if they think it is time to stop, they will not stop, instead of placing the next bet by hearing that sound. So when they can win streak more 5 times, it will better to stop as soon as possible. Otherwise, that will become bigger and they will not have any chance to stop before they lose all of their money plus the win money.
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June 23, 2021, 08:49:05 AM
Luck is the most important factor that brings us to victory and in gambling games of course have the potential to win or lose so that both will always go hand in hand in every gambling you play.
So I will never believe it if someone says that reading a prayer when you want to play gambling can give us victory.

Yes, it's right! 

Gambling is games based on random events.  They obey the mathematical theory of probability. 

I'm not a puritan.  However, I believe that gambling is not very good for believers.  It's another matter if it's just entertainment.  However, if this is a serious hobby, on which all a person's free time is spent ...

The Lord God does not encourage a hobby for gambling.  There are many more godly ways to spend your money.  Therefore, in my opinion, it is not necessary to resort to prayer while gambling. 

There is an exception to this rule - if you plan to use your winnings for a godly cause.
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June 23, 2021, 08:28:45 AM

That's right. If we can have a wise mind, we will not panic and think about what we can do with the current situations. We can decide something that will not make us in trouble or lose money in trading or gambling because we will find out how to get out of bad situations. If we can do that, I am sure we will have control over ourselves and we will not even try to spend more money playing gambling.

for those who are addicted to gambling, of course, it is very difficult to control themselves because according to the experience of some gamblers I know, gambling seems to have flowed in their minds and it is addictive to players who always want to play and are eager to get profits, and they will continue to gamble. This is even if they get continuous wins without wanting to stop and of course the same thing will also apply to those who lose in the game and it triggers a grudge in their hearts so that they will come back again to avenge the defeat. I think it is very difficult for a gambler to be wise in controlling themselves and most gamblers will only stop when they run out of money and rarely stop when they win.
No wise man will think that gambling is a way to get profits, isn't it? So they are not going to get addicted because they are not gambling for making money and they know the reason for their existence. While there are people who knows gambling is risky but willing to take that risk because they feel that this is easy way to make money so they gamble and may face the betting with their beliefs and prayers.
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June 23, 2021, 08:08:03 AM

in short, this is more of psychological factor. so are they going to curse their "God" in case they lost big time? let's admit the reality that it has nothing to do with the results. but people want to believe on things they want to believe in. we can't do anything much about that. let them be. as long as they not harming anyone. we are free to believe what we want.
on this aspect, we will see varying opinions, just respect everyone's beliefs.


More on personal believe, there are gamblers who think that way and we can't argue with their belief.

If they think that there's someone who will listen to them once they start to gamble, let them believe to something that makes them

comfortable while playing inside the house, you can't force to them to stop or tell them that there's none who will listen. Let those
freedom continues to exist for everyone.
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