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June 19, 2021, 08:24:05 PM
To make it simple, just pray for God normally. He will listen to your prays and if the solution for your currently problems must be achieved through gambling, that is how God will make it happen on practice through his spiritual laws. I keep in mind God moves in a mysterious ways, so I can't say God will or won't act like this or that, because it's not possible to speak for him.
Exactly, I believe he is listening to our prayers and grant what we desire in different form or situation. So we might win or lose in gambling but it is destined to happen and not because we are a believer. I think the question that need an answer first is, is God or any spiritual being glad that we gamble? Some religion seeing it as a sin.
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June 19, 2021, 07:48:49 PM
Why don't you just go for a test and place 100 bets with praying and 100 bets without praying. Then you check whether there is a statistically significant deviation from one form of betting to the other. I am sorry to tell you the result upfront, but there won't be a difference. Otherwise the whole betting scene would turn into a religious cult for sure. Wink

That is an awesome idea , but maybe 100 bets are not enough Grin We should make a large size - like 1000 bets. This would be a nice case study. But which God are we praying for? We probably also need to test if there is a difference if we have a Christian, a Budhist , a Hindi or a Muslim praying to their own Gods. In the end we need a lot of bets just to be sure. Also what if there is a different if it is a woman praying or a men?

Haha yes, and if the prayers win the betting competition by a statistically significant margin I will double the winnings of the prayers, I promise. Or even better, I'll surely start praying myself while gambling.
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June 19, 2021, 06:05:29 PM
To make it simple, just pray for God normally. He will listen to your prays and if the solution for your currently problems must be achieved through gambling, that is how God will make it happen on practice through his spiritual laws. I keep in mind God moves in a mysterious ways, so I can't say God will or won't act like this or that, because it's not possible to speak for him.
We can just live a harmonic daily routine, away from the addictions and expect for the best, that our lives may run smoothly through a prosperous, joyful way, however the details of how it will happen for real goes beyond our personal preferences, wishes and desires.
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June 19, 2021, 05:44:44 PM
Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.
Those are three different things that some gamblers are considering, prayer, luck and knowledge or strategy. They can come altogether but they can also keep up on their own based on the belief and feeling of the gambler. He can consider all of those all at once when he starts winning.
But the others might just say one or two of those factors that helped them win. Luck is needed because it's a typical factor with all of those luck based games and whether we include those strategy games, we're always hoping for it.
Yes, every gambler are hoping for the luck needed to win but prayer still doesn't work or help in winning when it comes to gambling and it better we face the certainty about this issue cause a gambler with no knowledge and strategy will never win the game even if she won the game she will gamble with all the money she won in the end.
I agree. That's an uncommon thing with gamblers and religions, it's hard to bet on if you have that type of prayer but you're unsure if that prayer will be granted.
That's why some gamblers only expect to be lucky or not and there's no attachment with religion as they gamble.
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June 19, 2021, 03:35:58 PM
It may be natural to pray in all thing for personal gain. But I can say that there is no correlation between gambling and prayer winning because basically this victory is a gambler's luck. Although it's not wrong, I don't think it will increase the chance of winning. I will not pray for winning the bet, but just hope luck is on my side. Only that.
Prayer is a request to God, regardless of whether what we ask for is good or bad, but of course the behavior in praying is also a determinant so that prayer is granted, and in my opinion praying at gambling is not a good thing, because basically God hates those who risking his fate in gambling, so I agree more if the luck factor is more important in gambling and indeed there is nothing wrong with praying for victory in gambling, but we should not blame God when later we experience defeat in gambling.
I don't want to talk about religious matters too much, I simply think that the way we pray only shows how miserable we are with the current situation, there is nothing we can do, except make a request from God but why do we pray about such unreasonable requests. We are not really in a situation where there is no way out and we are forced to pray, we can get out of this simply by not playing and not participating but why do so many people still prefer the situation to be more complicated
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June 19, 2021, 10:48:08 AM
Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.
Knowledge will also be important for the gamblers because that will help them to play better and with luck, they will win the games. Sometimes, people can not see the reality of gambling instead of still forcing them to play longer, making them lose more money. But we can pray before gambling if we feel that can give us more confidence. But if it's not, we can directly play gambling and hope that our luck will come to us.
If you don’t understand the game always read the instruction and that’s a great knowledge came from since every games have their own instructions and you’ll master it once you keep playing that specific game. When it comes to prayer, we have so many belief and there’s nothing wrong with this one, just pray and play but never expect something.
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June 19, 2021, 10:43:38 AM
Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.
Knowledge will also be important for the gamblers because that will help them to play better and with luck, they will win the games.
Knowledge is the most fundamental characteristic needed in gambling not that it will also be important cause if a gsmbler don't have knowledge about games rules she have lost the game before the start of.

Sometimes, people can not see the reality of gambling instead of still forcing them to play longer, making them lose more money.
Apparently, this are the people that lack the required knowledge and this is the reason why knowledge should the top priority of every gambler.

 
But we can pray before gambling if we feel that can give us more confidence. But if it's not, we can directly play gambling and hope that our luck will come to us.
I agree with you.
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June 19, 2021, 10:19:42 AM
Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.
Knowledge will also be important for the gamblers because that will help them to play better and with luck, they will win the games. Sometimes, people can not see the reality of gambling instead of still forcing them to play longer, making them lose more money. But we can pray before gambling if we feel that can give us more confidence. But if it's not, we can directly play gambling and hope that our luck will come to us.
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June 19, 2021, 09:37:01 AM
Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.
Those are three different things that some gamblers are considering, prayer, luck and knowledge or strategy. They can come altogether but they can also keep up on their own based on the belief and feeling of the gambler. He can consider all of those all at once when he starts winning.
But the others might just say one or two of those factors that helped them win. Luck is needed because it's a typical factor with all of those luck based games and whether we include those strategy games, we're always hoping for it.
Yes, every gambler are hoping for the luck needed to win but prayer still doesn't work or help in winning when it comes to gambling and it better we face the certainty about this issue cause a gambler with no knowledge and strategy will never win the game even if she won the game she will gamble with all the money she won in the end.
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June 19, 2021, 05:59:01 AM
spiritual power or consulting to God before placing bet can't do anything related to winning in gambling.
Because I think people have a ritual to do something and it is considered to have a positive effect. Maybe you won't believe it. But most people do prayer and effort. They don't just use strategy but expect help from those they believe in.
There are those who believe it is luck if they win, but luck will not keep coming, so they need a strategy and pray, so that it will be eased. IMO
In a situation where a bet is placed without strategy and prayer, then the bet was won, who makes the bet successful, that's a pure luck right? Another scenerio of a gambler that follows every strategy and pray and consult whatever to his God before placing bets, at least the bet fails, who causes the failure, same God.?
Most of times I won bets by placing carelessly without thorough strategy, I don't pray to nay God, who did it for me, luck right. Such belief doesn't work and jt can never work on gambling.
A question or situation on where people should really think off about on how to win even in the absence of strategy and prayer and was mentioned then it was indeed pure luck and this is what matter most in gambling where it is a game of chance and luck for something you can win and able to hit it.If someone do really believe that
prayer does play a big role on winning their game then just let them believe on what they do believe because we do have our own decisions in life.
But for me in gambling I don't see the relevance nor the connection for it to be the reason on why you had won your game.
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June 19, 2021, 02:26:19 AM
spiritual power or consulting to God before placing bet can't do anything related to winning in gambling.
Because I think people have a ritual to do something and it is considered to have a positive effect. Maybe you won't believe it. But most people do prayer and effort. They don't just use strategy but expect help from those they believe in.
There are those who believe it is luck if they win, but luck will not keep coming, so they need a strategy and pray, so that it will be eased. IMO
In a situation where a bet is placed without strategy and prayer, then the bet was won, who makes the bet successful, that's a pure luck right? Another scenerio of a gambler that follows every strategy and pray and consult whatever to his God before placing bets, at least the bet fails, who causes the failure, same God.?
Most of times I won bets by placing carelessly without thorough strategy, I don't pray to nay God, who did it for me, luck right. Such belief doesn't work and jt can never work on gambling.
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June 18, 2021, 11:33:54 PM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

Betting on the outcome of matches is similar to tossing a coin. If someone believes that a coin is able to turn in his favor, he will probably believe that he prayed it. It really has nothing to do with it.
I suggest you do an experiment.
Someone can bet on 10 games and you toss a coin 10 times.
The probability will be very similar, and often even better, than that of someone who was emotionally betting on matches.
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June 18, 2021, 08:11:19 PM
Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.
Those are three different things that some gamblers are considering, prayer, luck and knowledge or strategy. They can come altogether but they can also keep up on their own based on the belief and feeling of the gambler. He can consider all of those all at once when he starts winning.
But the others might just say one or two of those factors that helped them win. Luck is needed because it's a typical factor with all of those luck based games and whether we include those strategy games, we're always hoping for it.
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June 18, 2021, 05:30:06 PM
Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.
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June 18, 2021, 02:54:21 PM
It may be natural to pray in all thing for personal gain. But I can say that there is no correlation between gambling and prayer winning because basically this victory is a gambler's luck. Although it's not wrong, I don't think it will increase the chance of winning. I will not pray for winning the bet, but just hope luck is on my side. Only that.
Prayer is a request to God, regardless of whether what we ask for is good or bad, but of course the behavior in praying is also a determinant so that prayer is granted, and in my opinion praying at gambling is not a good thing, because basically God hates those who risking his fate in gambling, so I agree more if the luck factor is more important in gambling and indeed there is nothing wrong with praying for victory in gambling, but we should not blame God when later we experience defeat in gambling.
We don't know on whats hated and whats not since there are religion which does have neutral dealings when it comes to gambling so we cant really tell if prayer of someone would be effective or not for him to win on playing gambling.

Its really hard to determine if this one do really works or not but since there are people whom do continue to pray despite of some criticisms that it doesn't work then
just let them be.

We do have different beliefs on life and lets just respect on what others been believing on a particular thing as long we don't harm any other people then it should be fine.
Prayer will always be there when we want to do or make something even though it is against what I think there is no prohibition.
and the logic is that whatever happens, win or lose in a bet, it's because God moves whether we consider it a factor of luck or not.
I pray when I want to gamble I just want to be able to control myself and play calmly and not be bothered by demons that incite not to be able to control myself and lust, and I feel there is a reaction and can play calmly and not ambition.
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June 18, 2021, 02:34:55 PM
It may be natural to pray in all thing for personal gain. But I can say that there is no correlation between gambling and prayer winning because basically this victory is a gambler's luck. Although it's not wrong, I don't think it will increase the chance of winning. I will not pray for winning the bet, but just hope luck is on my side. Only that.
Prayer is a request to God, regardless of whether what we ask for is good or bad, but of course the behavior in praying is also a determinant so that prayer is granted, and in my opinion praying at gambling is not a good thing, because basically God hates those who risking his fate in gambling, so I agree more if the luck factor is more important in gambling and indeed there is nothing wrong with praying for victory in gambling, but we should not blame God when later we experience defeat in gambling.
We don't know on whats hated and whats not since there are religion which does have neutral dealings when it comes to gambling so we cant really tell if prayer of someone would be effective or not for him to win on playing gambling.

Its really hard to determine if this one do really works or not but since there are people whom do continue to pray despite of some criticisms that it doesn't work then
just let them be.

We do have different beliefs on life and lets just respect on what others been believing on a particular thing as long we don't harm any other people then it should be fine.
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June 18, 2021, 01:26:45 PM
It may be natural to pray in all thing for personal gain. But I can say that there is no correlation between gambling and prayer winning because basically this victory is a gambler's luck. Although it's not wrong, I don't think it will increase the chance of winning. I will not pray for winning the bet, but just hope luck is on my side. Only that.
Prayer is a request to God, regardless of whether what we ask for is good or bad, but of course the behavior in praying is also a determinant so that prayer is granted, and in my opinion praying at gambling is not a good thing, because basically God hates those who risking his fate in gambling, so I agree more if the luck factor is more important in gambling and indeed there is nothing wrong with praying for victory in gambling, but we should not blame God when later we experience defeat in gambling.
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June 18, 2021, 12:08:23 PM
spiritual power or consulting to God before placing bet can't do anything related to winning in gambling.
Because I think people have a ritual to do something and it is considered to have a positive effect. Maybe you won't believe it. But most people do prayer and effort. They don't just use strategy but expect help from those they believe in.
There are those who believe it is luck if they win, but luck will not keep coming, so they need a strategy and pray, so that it will be eased. IMO
I think whatever the odds people will continue to cling onto something that they think would help them to win a game. But of course, they will need to do something in order to win they have to put some effort too and that's the strategy on how to win. Praying may have a connection to their luck that's why they have to do it but the irony is why pray to your God when gambling is forbidden? Maybe they have a different beliefs that's why it's so easy to do it without feeling guilty.
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June 18, 2021, 11:34:47 AM
It may be natural to pray in all thing for personal gain. But I can say that there is no correlation between gambling and prayer winning because basically this victory is a gambler's luck. Although it's not wrong, I don't think it will increase the chance of winning. I will not pray for winning the bet, but just hope luck is on my side. Only that.
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June 18, 2021, 11:34:47 AM
spiritual power or consulting to God before placing bet can't do anything related to winning in gambling.
Because I think people have a ritual to do something and it is considered to have a positive effect. Maybe you won't believe it. But most people do prayer and effort. They don't just use strategy but expect help from those they believe in.
There are those who believe it is luck if they win, but luck will not keep coming, so they need a strategy and pray, so that it will be eased. IMO

Or, it became a habit. Gamblers do that. They blow their cards, they wish something with lady luck, or they have some kind of habitual movement before putting the bet. i.e. cross fingers.  Grin
If it gives them fun to do it or they think it makes the chances higher then why not.
But everything will go down to how the roll will come out. It's luck-based mostly using an algorithm like how the raffles are being done.
There are games where it could be cheated like lotto, dice, and other computer-based games today.
God won't help with such a game. If He will talk to you, He might just say to use that to fill your tummy. Just like how your mom taught you.  Grin
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