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June 07, 2021, 09:38:23 AM
#90
You can pray all you want but only one thing is certain: the result of the game, lottery, or whatever it is you are betting on is not in any way affected by your prayers. You can offer all kinds of prayers before you gamble but that will never ever dictate whether you will end up winning or losing.
Indeed, prayer doesnt affect the result of the game. So either win or lose, the outcome depends of what destined to happen and not due to our religious belief or what can prayer do in times like this. I think its not right to connect God to this kind of deed, gambling is a kind of game with unpredicted result so winning means you're lucky on that particular moment and not because God gave what we desire.
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June 07, 2021, 09:26:21 AM
#89
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
Prayers are just to seek some luck from Above. I even do this especially if it involved a big amount at stake. Smiley

Which is essentially the same as a kind of prayer or seeking favor from whoever that is from above. And if two of you having opposite bets are both seeking luck from above, how would that someone from above choose who is to become lucky and who is not?

In the end, luck is something beyond our control and even our prayers and it actually does not matter whether we are seeking some luck from above or not.
If that so, only GOD will know and that gambler will see what is the result. Of course, that can make a gambler will sad if they lose and vice versa. That will happen in gambling, and even we both pray together with one purpose to win, which will depend on our luck. So we need to think twice about luck and we can still pray before we gamble.

You can pray all you want but only one thing is certain: the result of the game, lottery, or whatever it is you are betting on is not in any way affected by your prayers. You can offer all kinds of prayers before you gamble but that will never ever dictate whether you will end up winning or losing.

The best thing to do before you gamble is to make sure you know how much you are willing to lose, how much time will you be spending on it, and perhaps some analysis depending on the kind of gambling you will be playing.
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June 07, 2021, 09:06:55 AM
#88
Actually I want to laugh, but whatever you do of course have hope. For those who believe in praying, whatever they do will begin with prayer. I think this will convince you although it won't be a major factor with the results. Some of my friends still do it even though he knows it's against the rules he believes in. So he believed even though he knew he might be wrong.
They do their habits because they feel less comfortable without it, so after doing it they become confident when they make bets. There are even times when they lose, they will blame themselves for forgetting to do their habits (praying, rituals, and etc) before gambling. Some people even believe that sitting position will affect their luck when gambling (like some Javanese who still believe in Primbon  Grin).

For me, gambling is very closely related to luck. If we are not lucky then we will most likely lose, but if we're lucky then we will get income (of course we have to know when to stop).
This habit is contrary to our beliefs, they even use it so that there will be miracles for luck in betting. Even though the facts are different and this has nothing to do with prayer IMO.

Indeed, that belief is strong, I am exactly what I saw with my friend, he really believes in a seat that gives luck, even though if you think about it, there is no difference and when you are lucky in any seat, you will win if it is right.
Well, humans always have a ritual method that they believe will bring themselves luckier with their behavior.
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June 07, 2021, 08:59:34 AM
#87
Actually I want to laugh, but whatever you do of course have hope. For those who believe in praying, whatever they do will begin with prayer. I think this will convince you although it won't be a major factor with the results. Some of my friends still do it even though he knows it's against the rules he believes in. So he believed even though he knew he might be wrong.

They do their habits because they feel less comfortable without it, so after doing it they become confident when they make bets. There are even times when they lose, they will blame themselves for forgetting to do their habits (praying, rituals, and etc) before gambling. Some people even believe that sitting position will affect their luck when gambling (like some Javanese who still believe in Primbon  Grin).

For me, gambling is very closely related to luck. If we are not lucky then we will most likely lose, but if we're lucky then we will get income (of course we have to know when to stop).
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June 07, 2021, 08:57:50 AM
#86
If you believe in religion, then I assume you believe in God and devil existence.

Now, from whatever religion you are at right now, Bible prohibited gambling, because it's a sin. Now, if you win in gambling because you prayed before betting, then it's not a blessing from God, but a blessing from the devil, because that's what the devil wants, for us to do things that are prohibited from the Bible. It's a win win situation for the devil for him to have more companions when the judgment day comes.
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June 07, 2021, 08:29:19 AM
#85
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

Lol I don't think that's how religion works buddy.

"Please god let me cover the 4.5 point spread for the Nets tonight and make sure the game hits the over at 230pts."  "Thank you god" 😂

Betting is complete luck plain and simple no higher powers involved.
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June 07, 2021, 08:20:01 AM
#84
In general, this is not supposed to be, but some people do it without realizing it Grin, sounds weird but indeed there are people who pray when gambling, it's better if we know that.. we remind them.
About this, the point is we should not experience it.
Actually I want to laugh, but whatever you do of course have hope. For those who believe in praying, whatever they do will begin with prayer. I think this will convince you although it won't be a major factor with the results. Some of my friends still do it even though he knows it's against the rules he believes in. So he believed even though he knew he might be wrong.
^ Can we laugh at this?  Grin
I remember my friend before when we are at the casino, every time he places a bet, he made a sign of a cross on his self. One day I asked, he said just to have luck, so if you believe in your prayer, probably it will boost confidence and increase your chances of winning but overall, it will not give a guarantee that you will win and also give a good result in gambling. We know that gambling is based on luck but probably prayer will contribute a little but not much. However, there is nothing to lose with you if you will try to pray before you will gamble.
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June 07, 2021, 07:58:48 AM
#83
In general, this is not supposed to be, but some people do it without realizing it Grin, sounds weird but indeed there are people who pray when gambling, it's better if we know that.. we remind them.
About this, the point is we should not experience it.
Actually I want to laugh, but whatever you do of course have hope. For those who believe in praying, whatever they do will begin with prayer. I think this will convince you although it won't be a major factor with the results. Some of my friends still do it even though he knows it's against the rules he believes in. So he believed even though he knew he might be wrong.
legendary
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June 07, 2021, 07:30:05 AM
#82
Whenever I win or succeed in anything tho, I always say 'Thank you God' even though I didn't even pray for that specific thing and worked really hard to achieve it.  Cheesy
That is what we will say if we can achieve a good result. But we might say, "Oh, damn, it should not happen to me Grin

Praying can give a positive feeling to someone and that increase confidence. But gambling is at a grey side of our life, so when we pray, we ask GOD help to help us win the game. Sometimes, GOD will allow us to win, but the other time, we will lose. We can let people pray or do whatever they like to win the games.
That's a better approach, better always be thankful for basically anything that happens, also because anything can happen! Therefore, yes, keep praying if you really have to but don't forget that the outcomes of your bet are prayers-independent.
"Sometimes, GOD will allow us to win, but the other time, we will lose" that's delusional, sorry Wink
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June 07, 2021, 07:26:08 AM
#81
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I think this is a belief that has positive suggestions for its users. For many people the habit of starting the action with prayer is something that can be trusted to make it easier. Although sometimes the path has been determined we have to try, maybe including gambling. In addition to predicting they also pray to those they believe in, even though they know it is wrong.
So I think it's their right, I will respect any differences. They have a culture and routine that does not harm us.
How does praying help you though? Pretty sure that the guy upstairs is too busy doing something and I don't think that he or she is considering gambling as a virtue. Pretty sure that people who pray in gambling are just desperate and they want to hold on to something that will move the blame away from them.
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June 07, 2021, 06:40:28 AM
#80
Whenever I win or succeed in anything tho, I always say 'Thank you God' even though I didn't even pray for that specific thing and worked really hard to achieve it.  Cheesy
That is what we will say if we can achieve a good result. But we might say, "Oh, damn, it should not happen to me Grin

Praying can give a positive feeling to someone and that increase confidence. But gambling is at a grey side of our life, so when we pray, we ask GOD help to help us win the game. Sometimes, GOD will allow us to win, but the other time, we will lose. We can let people pray or do whatever they like to win the games.
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June 07, 2021, 04:57:43 AM
#79
Pray all you want but that does not mean anything.If a bet is meant to be a win it will be a win and if it is not meant to be a win it will not be a win.Those guys who you see just lie to themselves and in a psychological way it makes them feel better while they are waiting for the outcome of their bets.I am sure that when their bet is lost their psychological status will be the sadness everyone feels when they lose a bet.Prayer has nothing to do with gambling.
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June 07, 2021, 04:26:12 AM
#78
Well, speaking as someone who has been working in the industry and understands how outcomes work, I can't say that prayers work. In online casinos, there's the Random Number Generator. Its only function is to give random outcomes. One may pray for a 26 on online roulette or I don't know, for a winning or bonus round on slots. The chances for it to happen with or without prayers are the same. Random Number Generators are machines that don't care about anything else and aren't influenced by anything else (unless rigged, but that's another story and very unlikely at reputable casinos).

Even as a religious person, I also don't mix gambling and praying. I've always believed that praying is for special occasions and 'big' things like good health, surviving through especially hard times, etc. Sure, even in my career I'd find myself hoping that I'll be especially lucky and successful. But I generally believe that most things in life depend on my actions as a person and I wouldn't want to bother God with trivial things.

Whenever I win or succeed in anything tho, I always say 'Thank you God' even though I didn't even pray for that specific thing and worked really hard to achieve it.  Cheesy
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June 07, 2021, 01:58:40 AM
#77
I don't know about you people but what the people are doing doesn't have anything to do with the spirits or incorporeal beings, and any person who says so is just making excuses for their actions. Think of it like a tradition that people do before doing something like trying to depend it all in fate because they have no control over what comes next.

Their is no scientific way at present which proves that prayer does not have any connection with gambling or even otherwise. So it is belief of each individual that drives them to pray or not. If for someone if they think it does make difference then better for them because in the end well being of each one either financially or health wise etc is the utmost important. So let things continue if it is bringing good results in the end.
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June 07, 2021, 01:54:43 AM
#76
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
Prayers are just to seek some luck from Above. I even do this especially if it involved a big amount at stake. Smiley

Which is essentially the same as a kind of prayer or seeking favor from whoever that is from above. And if two of you having opposite bets are both seeking luck from above, how would that someone from above choose who is to become lucky and who is not?

In the end, luck is something beyond our control and even our prayers and it actually does not matter whether we are seeking some luck from above or not.
If that so, only GOD will know and that gambler will see what is the result. Of course, that can make a gambler will sad if they lose and vice versa. That will happen in gambling, and even we both pray together with one purpose to win, which will depend on our luck. So we need to think twice about luck and we can still pray before we gamble.
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June 07, 2021, 01:43:45 AM
#75
I don't know about you people but what the people are doing doesn't have anything to do with the spirits or incorporeal beings, and any person who says so is just making excuses for their actions. Think of it like a tradition that people do before doing something like trying to depend it all in fate because they have no control over what comes next.

I think this is a belief that has positive suggestions for its users. For many people the habit of starting the action with prayer is something that can be trusted to make it easier. Although sometimes the path has been determined we have to try, maybe including gambling. In addition to predicting they also pray to those they believe in, even though they know it is wrong.
So I think it's their right, I will respect any differences. They have a culture and routine that does not harm us.
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June 07, 2021, 12:27:02 AM
#74
No pun intended but is that even a question? I mean, obviously, how can be spiritual, religious or something along those lines can influence our gambling activity and experience? Those acts mean that those people are hoping for the best and no way the MAN above will spend time manipulating the result for those who pray lol.
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Exactly, that's exactly how I see it. People like to give away responsibility for their actions and believe that a "higher power" will control them and intervene if they believe in it strongly enough.

This can work very well in some areas of life, for example, it has been shown in studies that believing people can get through serious illnesses better (with a higher sense of well-being). In gambling, however, only one power counts: chance (exceptions like poker confirm the rule, of course).
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June 06, 2021, 11:51:29 PM
#73
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
Prayers are just to seek some luck from Above. I even do this especially if it involved a big amount at stake. Smiley

Which is essentially the same as a kind of prayer or seeking favor from whoever that is from above. And if two of you having opposite bets are both seeking luck from above, how would that someone from above choose who is to become lucky and who is not?

In the end, luck is something beyond our control and even our prayers and it actually does not matter whether we are seeking some luck from above or not.
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June 06, 2021, 11:01:42 PM
#72
I don't know about you people but what the people are doing doesn't have anything to do with the spirits or incorporeal beings, and any person who says so is just making excuses for their actions. Think of it like a tradition that people do before doing something like trying to depend it all in fate because they have no control over what comes next.
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June 06, 2021, 07:44:59 PM
#71
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

This is too much for a discussion. We should already know that there's no such thing as a direct connection to prayers and gambling.

Both parties are praying so why should GOD will have to choose one. There is no such thing as who will be favored there. Let's debunk that idea.

Prayers are just to seek some luck from Above. I even do this especially if it involved a big amount at stake. Smiley
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