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Quote from: Stalker22 on June 06, 2021, 04:34:41 PM

Quote from: tabas on June 06, 2021, 03:20:47 PM

There is no connection with your prayers and gambling. That two are conflicting each other. The teachings in religions are that they don't agree with gambling.
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It really may depend on which religion you are looking at. Not all religions are against gambling. In particular, I'm thinking of polytheistic religions and religions without divine deities.
Recreational gambling, for example, is perfectly fine under Buddhist philosophy and Islam is the only major religion that opposes gambling outright. The other religions tolerate the activity to some extent.

I tend to think of just a few religion that's mostly with the most members and they're against gambling. But you're right that there are some religions that are agree to gambling as long as it's what on their hand book or any rule that they should follow.
I forgot about Buddhism and thanks for reminding with that info.

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Quote from: tabas on June 06, 2021, 03:20:47 PM

There is no connection with your prayers and gambling. That two are conflicting each other. The teachings in religions are that they don't agree with gambling.
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It really may depend on which religion you are looking at. Not all religions are against gambling. In particular, I'm thinking of polytheistic religions and religions without divine deities.
Recreational gambling, for example, is perfectly fine under Buddhist philosophy and Islam is the only major religion that opposes gambling outright. The other religions tolerate the activity to some extent.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 01:35:04 PM

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

No pun intended but is that even a question? I mean, obviously, how can be spiritual, religious or something along those lines can influence our gambling activity and experience? Those acts mean that those people are hoping for the best and no way the MAN above will spend time manipulating the result for those who pray lol.

It's common that some people are praying as part of the thinking that it will increase the chances of winning. There is no unusual to that. The same way as you pray to e.g acceptance to a job, expecting a good salary, you will now receive a YES to your girlfriend and so on.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 01:35:04 PM

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Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

Well, if you believe these spiritual things like you prayed before placing a bet, --that will not work for me.
Because in the first place, gambling is not for good spiritual worship, it is against it so I think don't involve prayer on the gambling because that will not work. Remember that God is against gambling and in the Islamic religion, this is a mortal sin from them. Just gamble and place a bet if you want and don't ask that you will win. However, this will perhaps belong to the superstitious belief and there is nothing we can argue if one of us believes you in that way before you will place your bet.

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There is no connection with your prayers and gambling. That two are conflicting each other. The teachings in religions are that they don't agree with gambling.
And that's why if you're praying for luck and you want to win as you gamble, your prayers won't be heard. Your luck comes unexpectedly and there's no need for a prayer with that.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on June 06, 2021, 12:04:46 PM

Quote from: pawanjain on June 06, 2021, 11:06:28 AM

It's quite simple. If you lose a bet, whom would you blame ?
God or luck or yourself ?
Most people blame their luck and not God himself. Gambling does require a luck factor and the people who pray before gambling just do it to get the luck by their side.
But has luck ever been "called" ?
It just sometimes work and sometimes not. It has just become a habit for people to pray before they do something which rewards them something.

Perhaps by praying they wished the best for the bet.
But still, those who are so strong in their beliefs they will definitely do it and God bless them in their bets, hopefully luck will go down maybe that's all, but I think this is indeed a factor and destiny where gambling can produce for me is entirely luck, gambling is not a strategy game but only see if you are lucky or not when placing a gambling bet.

This do really depends on someones belief because we do have different level when it comes to this manner on where there are really some religious and there are some which are not. Luck cant really be influenced nor forced to go down and would really be on your side no matter how hard you do pray.
Divine intervention doesnt really work on this part but since people do really make out some beliefs then let them be.Its just their own belief that prayers could really effective on changing up someones fate but the truth is that it wont really changed a thing at all and if they won then its just coincidence.

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Quote from: gabbie2010 on June 05, 2021, 11:56:14 PM

Gambling is a game of luck no amount of prayer would have any influence on the outcome of the result, however gamblers who imbibe in the act of praying before placing a bet do so based on their personal belief of course we have to respect their belief probably that had previously worked for them, there are also other gamblers who also prayed but still lost their bettings thus gambling is 50:50 chance it is either win or loss.

The chances aren't 50-50 firstly because there is always some house edge involved in betting which means you will always have lesser chances of winning than you might think you have.

Secondly, I strongly believe that if you pray for something you will have more luck achieving it, maybe that is because I am a spiritual person but I have seen that if you really want something and pray with a pure heart, you will get it. Although that doesn't mean I am suggesting or encouraging gamblers to pray for the win because that's greed rather than your need.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 01:35:04 PM

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

I don't think such practices influence the result of a game or bring more luck but I don't see a problem either. There are people with different beliefs and just because I feel that prayers don't matter doesn't mean they are wrong or I am right. I don't think these players are going to change anything, it only shows that gamblers are so desperate for the win.

There are times when I have big bets on sports and I am myself closing my eyes and praying but I know that doesn't mean much so it's just instincts more than anything and being nervous and curious are always the product of gambling. It also depends on what culture we come from and what belief system we have. I am sure almost everyone of us must have remembered our Gods at least once in some situation.

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Sometimes just having the courage to place bet can be the difference between winning millions, so if you ask God for luck you wouldn't know if its just your mere luck or it is really a spiritual being intervening in your life. Basically some gamblers that thinks God help them win places a higher stakes of gambling, they are willing to take the risk more often thinking that God will create a way for them to win there's no confirming it but trying it wouldn't cost you anything but seconds of time.

By the way Chinese people likes gambling and they have so many rituals and superstition regarding to gambling and luck, even businesses they see it as gambling and places different artifacts such as waving cat and frog with coins under or Buddha sitting on coins, there is a lot of things that Chinese connects on spiritual beings and I believe whether it is really helping or not it's all about the mindset and being certain on when to bet.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 06, 2021, 10:35:42 AM

Naturally, the benefits in terms of getting the result from prayer are exactly zero. But if the player is very nervous and prayer helps him to endure stress more easily, then why not. We must consider this as a kind of meditative practice that helps calm the nerves.

Yes, it will help them directly or not, but it is better to pray and let it happen. Playing gambling with high tension will not be good as we can not enjoy the game and maybe lead us to lose. Hopefully, prayer before gamble can help a gambler to calm down.

Quote from: rhomelmabini on June 06, 2021, 10:40:31 AM

I hope so that's the case but as others might say "there will be nothing to lose if you just believe". But as per mention of luck and prayer I think they are in contrast on majority of religions but we aren't talking here on that I'm just reiterating it for context. I still believe it will be luck no matter what unless it really requires startegy.

It might be against most religions, but believe it or not, some people might pray to GOD before they gamble and ask for help to win the games. We do not know how it will impact their game because they will know it later. Yes, in this matter, luck will take part to win the gambling games. The pray can help them to feel confident.

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If gambling is associated with God and religion in my opinion it is contradictory and if praying to God before starting to play gambling is not prohibited and will have no effect.
Gambling is just luck and skill in playing to win bets, except asking for spiritual or supernatural help and also spells which are believed to work and but do not guarantee 100% success and but that is all against God and sin.

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Quote from: pawanjain on June 06, 2021, 11:06:28 AM

It's quite simple. If you lose a bet, whom would you blame ?
God or luck or yourself ?
Most people blame their luck and not God himself. Gambling does require a luck factor and the people who pray before gambling just do it to get the luck by their side.
But has luck ever been "called" ?
It just sometimes work and sometimes not. It has just become a habit for people to pray before they do something which rewards them something.

Perhaps by praying they wished the best for the bet.
But still, those who are so strong in their beliefs they will definitely do it and God bless them in their bets, hopefully luck will go down maybe that's all, but I think this is indeed a factor and destiny where gambling can produce for me is entirely luck, gambling is not a strategy game but only see if you are lucky or not when placing a gambling bet.

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Prayer is part of everyone, even the atheist murmers something in mind when he does something. Everyone wants victory and success. Gambling isn't an exception, and people pray when they start. Later if won they'll never thank god, if lost the entire blame is on him. Even myself have did it. If you sit and think, one can understand how many chances God has given us to succeed.

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People will involve spirituality wherever they find that they are in a bind and it can calm themselves down, therefore the people usually do it a lot, maybe in their minds or maybe out loud. For me I do not believe in god or religion perse, but as long as people are happy I do think there is not even any discussion on this.

My mom prays before everything literally! Everything! for everyone. Well but as long as they remember that god does not prevent them from winning and loosing. You might see people yelling at god for not giving them enough- well then it would be negative for the religious beliefs.

Gambling is prohibited in certain religions too. Therefore I would like to see if those people pray too.

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It's quite simple. If you lose a bet, whom would you blame ?
God or luck or yourself ?
Most people blame their luck and not God himself. Gambling does require a luck factor and the people who pray before gambling just do it to get the luck by their side.
But has luck ever been "called" ?
It just sometimes work and sometimes not. It has just become a habit for people to pray before they do something which rewards them something.

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Every prayer in the activities that we do is allowed including gambling which may be believed from the gods, but for me no this will not affect the results even though we pray in my belief, so I still believe this is the absolute right of luck in every gambling game that has been becomes your right then your life will be full of luck from every gambling game, but remember that not every luck is there and unfortunately it is, so gambling has lost a lot of money, but it is difficult to recover.
I will do as necessary, there is no need for prayer in gambling games, even gambling often likes to make depression if there is no strong mentality.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 06, 2021, 09:35:24 AM

It is okay to pray before we gamble, and for some people, that can give them the confidence to playing gambling. But sometimes, their prayer will not become a reality because playing gambling will depend on luck so if they do not have luck, they will not win and their prayer will not happen. But all in all, we need to pray, especially if we want to do something. But for gambling, we need to have the luck to win, which is out of our expectations.

I hope so that's the case but as others might say "there will be nothing to lose if you just believe". But as per mention of luck and prayer I think they are in contrast on majority of religions but we aren't talking here on that I'm just reiterating it for context. I still believe it will be luck no matter what unless it really requires startegy.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 06, 2021, 09:35:24 AM

It is okay to pray before we gamble, and for some people, that can give them the confidence to playing gambling. But sometimes, their prayer will not become a reality because playing gambling will depend on luck so if they do not have luck, they will not win and their prayer will not happen. But all in all, we need to pray, especially if we want to do something. But for gambling, we need to have the luck to win, which is out of our expectations.

Naturally, the benefits in terms of getting the result from prayer are exactly zero. But if the player is very nervous and prayer helps him to endure stress more easily, then why not. We must consider this as a kind of meditative practice that helps calm the nerves.

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Quote from: robelneo on June 06, 2021, 08:27:38 AM

Who are we to judge? if gambling is what makes him closer to God as long as he is a responsible gambler then we must respect him, we all have our own way on how to create a relationship with God and God is not a judgemental God, I pray when I am betting in a lottery and I feel good doing this, as long as you are good at what you do there's no harm on it.

No one's really judging who here (I think), but we are discussing on how "effective" praying is before gambling. Now if we just based it on statistics, numbers, hard facts and whatnot, then it does nothing. People can pray to their Gods all they want sure, but it doesn't change the fact that it would have no effect on the results of a bet. No harm indeed, but no benefit as well (in terms of the result).

Looking at it objectively, praying is just a method for people to actually explain something, akin to luck if I were to compare it. It's like asking if lucky charms actually had an effect or something.

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It is okay to pray before we gamble, and for some people, that can give them the confidence to playing gambling. But sometimes, their prayer will not become a reality because playing gambling will depend on luck so if they do not have luck, they will not win and their prayer will not happen. But all in all, we need to pray, especially if we want to do something. But for gambling, we need to have the luck to win, which is out of our expectations.

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