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Quote from: zanezane on June 09, 2021, 08:11:24 AM

you were just at the right place when the chips landed.

It's called luck Grin

Quote from: michellee on June 09, 2021, 10:04:26 AM

Indeed. Sometimes, the answer will need to wait for a while because GOD has another plan for us.

Which God? Dice God? Grin

Regarding prayer, I don't think it's necessary since AFAIK most religion forbid gambling. But religious people often pray for a lucky day and prosperity, though. So the prayers may count if they are winning.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on June 09, 2021, 07:58:14 AM

Exactly.

Not because you pray for something means you'll receive it or have it accurately. Sometimes the answers on our prayer is different, or maybe delayed, because God knows what's better for us. If you lose, even you prayed to win, maybe it was a sign that God gave to you, to realize something, to never play gambling again, it's up to you whether you'll accept the sign or ignore it and continue playing gambling.

Indeed. Sometimes, the answer will need to wait for a while because GOD has another plan for us. We can not complain about the result if we are losing the money after we pray and because maybe that is the best thing that we should have. If we win, but we will get something worst, that will be good for us. So GOD makes us lose the money and not allow us to win. But on the other days, we can win the games.

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I don't encourage or discourage it, but I don't judge people who do this, it's their way of life, if their religion tells them to pray every hour or whatever they do, we should let them, praying is a religious act, and we have to let other practice their religion, it will not harm you seeing other people pray while betting.

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Quote from: boyptc on June 09, 2021, 07:26:28 AM

Quote from: zanezane on June 09, 2021, 06:55:13 AM

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Coincidence and luck.

That's mostly the matter in gambling if you've been praying for your wins. You'll never know if your prayer has been answered or it's just a coincidence that luck is totally with you.

Don't rely too much on luck because there's no such thing as luck, it's just a fancy word for statistics and probability. There is no luck, you were just at the right place when the chips landed.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on June 08, 2021, 07:28:58 PM

That's why I believe that it is just a personal belief and habit before doing gambling.
And whether he is lucky or not, some strategies and right decision at that time when gambling also will really influence the loss or win.

Agreed, not everyone has to be doing it, it's a matter of preference and perspective, if you think it can help you then probably do it. But to be on a rational side of things, just because you pray doesn't mean that you can win and even if you win, it's just a coincidence, be responsible for your actions and don't pray for it.

Exactly.

Not because you pray for something means you'll receive it or have it accurately. Sometimes the answers on our prayer is different, or maybe delayed, because God knows what's better for us. If you lose, even you prayed to win, maybe it was a sign that God gave to you, to realize something, to never play gambling again, it's up to you whether you'll accept the sign or ignore it and continue playing gambling.

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Quote from: zanezane on June 09, 2021, 06:55:13 AM

Agreed, not everyone has to be doing it, it's a matter of preference and perspective, if you think it can help you then probably do it. But to be on a rational side of things, just because you pray doesn't mean that you can win and even if you win, it's just a coincidence, be responsible for your actions and don't pray for it.

Coincidence and luck.

That's mostly the matter in gambling if you've been praying for your wins. You'll never know if your prayer has been answered or it's just a coincidence that luck is totally with you.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on June 08, 2021, 07:28:58 PM

That's why I believe that it is just a personal belief and habit before doing gambling.
And whether he is lucky or not, some strategies and right decision at that time when gambling also will really influence the loss or win.

Agreed, not everyone has to be doing it, it's a matter of preference and perspective, if you think it can help you then probably do it. But to be on a rational side of things, just because you pray doesn't mean that you can win and even if you win, it's just a coincidence, be responsible for your actions and don't pray for it.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on June 07, 2021, 06:41:40 PM

gambling is also forbidden in my religion. So, what's for praying for something forbidden?
I don't think this will work moreover to something that is exactly forbidden. But, I don't know if in the other beliefs. This is just a personal opinion.

If gambling is forbidden in your religion you probably cannot look towards heaven for luck Grin

because they already warned you against it. Jokes apart, I don't think praying works for anyone and if one feels it does, they are just fooling themselves. Imagine two different people praying for their bets and they have different players so who is gonna win? The one whose prayers are stronger? Doesn't make sense.

Quote from: virasisog on June 07, 2021, 07:33:38 PM

Each of us has their own gambling belief and practices. It may sound absurd when you say you pray before you gamble, I don't see anything wrong with it if it is what you believe when gambling. If a gambler thibks praying when betting can bring luck,then so be it. Betting practices and beliefs varies from people to people and there is nothing wrong with it as long as it doesn't oppose your religious belief.

There is nothing wrong with eating pizza before gambling either but you should not satisfy yourself by telling that God is on my side today just because I have done a particular action. It brings overconfidence and later remorse.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 02:35:04 PM

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

why bets need to be opposite ? bets should be the same too for us to know if this would work in other gamblers but if bets are opposite ( one bets on high odds and the other is in lower odds ) god will favour the bettor that bet in lower odds but only if that bettor have done a good deed because thats how it works .
you will get good blessing if you do something good

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on June 08, 2021, 07:28:58 PM

Quote from: matchi2011 on June 07, 2021, 06:49:20 PM

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That's why I believe that it is just a personal belief and habit before doing gambling.
And whether he is lucky or not, some strategies and right decision at that time when gambling also will really influence the loss or win.

We have so many belief when it comes to religion, some prohibit you from gambling and some players are praying that he won on gambling and I'm also guilty on this one especially when I needed to win. It's ok to pray as long as you don't expect too much because gambling is still depend on our luck and I don't know if praying for gambling is bad or not because its money and money consider as the root of evil.

There are even people who do blame God when they do lost and blame out that their prayers hadnt been heard which is totally insane for someone to rely that much towards their gambling activity.

Its true that there are even religions that do prohibit gambling but still people do play despite of such restriction.Some is way too hopeful which do result into praying into God that they would be lucky while they do play.

It right that we shouldnt really be relying on these things because we are the ones who do make our own fate towards on things that we've been dealing with and God has nothing to do with our own self will.

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Quote from: matchi2011 on June 07, 2021, 06:49:20 PM

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That's why I believe that it is just a personal belief and habit before doing gambling.
And whether he is lucky or not, some strategies and right decision at that time when gambling also will really influence the loss or win.

Quote from: molsewid on June 07, 2021, 08:50:38 PM

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Hahaha, so, that is the point.
We also don't know whether he wins or losses is because of his prayer or not, or his luck, or his own strategies.
Wink

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 02:35:04 PM

Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

I would be honest here I also pray sometimes back when I was gambling but not to the point that I would question it or compare to whom it would favour.
It all depends on the player I don't think that it is a good idea to use God in gambling then when you lost that round would you question God why you didn't win?

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Actually there is a friend of mine that has this attitude , He goes to churches consecutively days before he goes to a Cockfighting Derbies , he has this some called beliefs of saying prayers for the saints he believes a Patron of the fighting cock .
I hate to believe but sometimes he wins and sometimes losses, meaning in the end of it all it is Luck that gives him the win .

that's really a bad one fella, afaik gambling is one of the bad habits we humans keeps on doing, and I don't think (if ever God really exist) someone will listen to you to give you the blessings. (they just might say *fuck off and get you prayer somewhere else* ) lol

On most religions out there would really see gambling as a bad thing or been prohibited and with that alone you can tell that praying into something wouldn't really be relevant specially with gambling.No God would really be giving out some luck for you in order to win.I do believe in God but im not really praying up for something which shouldn't really be prayed on but there are still people whom do really believe that praying can really give them out those kind of high chance of winning.
I cant blame them though but sooner or later they would really realize that it wasn't that really effective because results in gambling is always random.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 02:35:04 PM

Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

While everyone is free to believe what they choose to do so this is nothing more but a superstition, it is known that gamblers have all kind of rituals and lucky objects that they do or use in order to try to improve their luck, for example it is not rare to see people holding a lucky charm when they gamble since they won a big prize when they were holding such object, and if the hold that object 100% of the time then it is obvious they will win again when they have it and they will attribute their success to the object when it was just a matter of time this happened.

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Well that is a very good habit that you are thanking GOD. because people only tend to complain to god but never thank them when they achieve some thing. But yes you can not pray the god for a win in gambling Tongue

Yes, because I feel that GOD always helps me anytime, especially if I have trouble or a problem. I can not stand until now if GOD does not care for me. Only thanks to GOD that I can do to feel grateful. I do not have to pray the GOD for a win in gambling Grin

Quote from: Karartma1 on June 07, 2021, 07:30:05 AM

That's a better approach, better always be thankful for basically anything that happens, also because anything can happen! Therefore, yes, keep praying if you really have to but don't forget that the outcomes of your bet are prayers-independent.
"Sometimes, GOD will allow us to win, but the other time, we will lose" that's delusional, sorry Wink

I will still pray in any condition and situation. I do not think much about winning or losing in gambling because that will consider the luck that I can not predict. At least, praying in any situation will help me have patience and calm down and help me think.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 02:35:04 PM

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

I don't want to question or ridicule anyone's religious views in any way, but I'm 99.99% sure that it doesn't make a difference whether you pray before a round of gambling or not. I think for many who do it, it's more of a ritual to make themselves feel better and they don't really believe that their prayers will lead to a better outcome because they are answered by some being.
As you say, the scenario you describe is also a kind of paradox, because if each of the opponents prays to the same God, it should cancel each other out in the end.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on June 08, 2021, 07:55:43 AM

that's really a bad one fella, afaik gambling is one of the bad habits we humans keeps on doing, and I don't think (if ever God really exist) someone will listen to you to give you the blessings. (they just might say *fuck off and get you prayer somewhere else* ) lol

Also, if there is really a God, I am sure that he or she is too busy answering the much more important prayers, praying because you want to win in gambling is a pretty stupid thing because it is a selfish thing to only ask for some invisible entity of something that only you can be efit from.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on June 08, 2021, 05:15:24 AM

Actually there is a friend of mine that has this attitude , He goes to churches consecutively days before he goes to a Cockfighting Derbies , he has this some called beliefs of saying prayers for the saints he believes a Patron of the fighting cock .
I hate to believe but sometimes he wins and sometimes losses, meaning in the end of it all it is Luck that gives him the win .

What a crazy thought. Lemme guess, he's praying to Saint Peter or "San Pedro". The statue saint who was holding a roster in the catholic churches.
There is no religion that encourages to engage in gambling worse praying for your luck before engaging into it.
That actually is not insult your beliefs/religion.

I'd rather appreciate a person who'll pray for his own beliefs on gambling Gods like the pagan did Grin

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on June 08, 2021, 05:15:24 AM

Actually there is a friend of mine that has this attitude , He goes to churches consecutively days before he goes to a Cockfighting Derbies , he has this some called beliefs of saying prayers for the saints he believes a Patron of the fighting cock .
I hate to believe but sometimes he wins and sometimes losses, meaning in the end of it all it is Luck that gives him the win .

that's really a bad one fella, afaik gambling is one of the bad habits we humans keeps on doing, and I don't think (if ever God really exist) someone will listen to you to give you the blessings. (they just might say *fuck off and get you prayer somewhere else* ) lol

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I remember that in the Latin American religious and magical tradition prayers to get lucky in gambling and to attract money fast was quite common, due to the fact that St. Expedito is the patron saint of fast actions: all those issues that require quick action.
So the patron saint of those who need quick solutions to their problems, this is the perfect saint to invoke when you need to improve your luck at the game using rituals to attract money and you decide to use a prayer to get lucky at the game.
People used to wear a medal or amulet of San Expedito around the neck or carry one in a mojo bag to keep the saint's powers close.

I know this sounds crazy but people believe in all sort of crazy things.

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