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Quote from: Hamphser on June 10, 2021, 03:21:53 PM

Believing in God when you are doing gambling doesnt really mean that they dont have respect on it nor very bad because we do respect it on the way that it could really affect someones luck into their gambling activity.

No no, you misunderstood the meaning of my statement Cheesy

I'm talking about religions that forbid their followers from gambling, and if those believers still gamble, that means they don't respect their own religion. It is different from what you are thinking Cheesy

Quote from: Hamphser on June 10, 2021, 03:21:53 PM

Its true that it doesnt really work that way but if people do have these kind of beliefs then lets just respect it and let them be on what they do believe on.

Well, of course, I'm just saying that God can't help you with gambling, but the truth is that God is in everyone's beliefs, depending on their judgment.

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on June 10, 2021, 02:43:04 PM

Damn, I laughed out loud when I read the title of this post Grin

Oh god, does my god exist in gambling Grin

No god can save your life when you are a gambler Grin

Quote from: michellee on June 10, 2021, 02:01:39 PM

Yep, but I think some religious people will play gambling, even if they know that gambling is prohibited in their religion.

It means that those people do not respect the very religion they are following. Everyone has their own beliefs and religions, but once one believes in a religion, I think everyone should follow dogma, it seems bad to defy dogma to gamble. Very bad! They're following a religion they don't even respect Undecided

Funny or not it cant really be stopped because there are people whom do really believe that divine intervention could really make out some impact or not and its none of our business if they do hardly believe on that.

Believing in God when you are doing gambling doesnt really mean that they dont have respect on it nor very bad because we do respect it on the way that it could really affect someones luck into their gambling activity.

Its true that it doesnt really work that way but if people do have these kind of beliefs then lets just respect it and let them be on what they do believe on.

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The belief that the supernatural has got everything to do with the natural is the brains behind the thought that, prayers could actually influence the result in a bet. As far as I can tell, it doesn't matter the words you mutter to yourself or some unseen supernatural. In a game, its always going to be about the game and the moment. The outcomes that plays out is about the mistakes and who uses the errors for an opportunity at that point, especially in sports betting.

In cause of board games like poker and blackjack, its more about experience and the readings. You make use of all you can get for the game. God or supernatural aren't unfair and as such, getting involved with the games would be creating an imbalance in the odds.

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Damn, I laughed out loud when I read the title of this post Grin

Oh god, does my god exist in gambling Grin

No god can save your life when you are a gambler Grin

Quote from: michellee on June 10, 2021, 02:01:39 PM

Yep, but I think some religious people will play gambling, even if they know that gambling is prohibited in their religion.

It means that those people do not respect the very religion they are following. Everyone has their own beliefs and religions, but once one believes in a religion, I think everyone should follow dogma, it seems bad to defy dogma to gamble. Very bad! They're following a religion they don't even respect Undecided

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Quote from: mu_enrico on June 09, 2021, 10:14:06 AM

Which God? Dice God? Grin

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Quote from: mu_enrico on June 09, 2021, 10:14:06 AM

Regarding prayer, I don't think it's necessary since AFAIK most religion forbid gambling. But religious people often pray for a lucky day and prosperity, though. So the prayers may count if they are winning.

Yep, but I think some religious people will play gambling, even if they know that gambling is prohibited in their religion.

Quote from: Renampun on June 10, 2021, 11:32:35 AM

surely those who pray when gambling is trying to ask for luck...

I agree with you that gambling not only requires luck, skill is also very much needed so that we don't just give up our money for free just by luck. but until now I am still amazed by those who pray when gambling, strange to me.

Maybe that will look strange for us but that is really happened in common in many places. They only think that by praying, they can win some money. But some people will not pray before playing gambling because they think that is not necessary. Besides that, gambling is only for fun and not for making money.

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This is more of a customary belief rather than having actual effect on the bet. Until one can prove that divine intervention is true—and with it, divine beings capable of controlling fate and destiny as we know it (lol)—no one can really say that praying helps. Although it helps on easing some people's minds and feeling about a certain bet, that's for sure. I'm yet to see a bet that is influenced by divine beings that is recorded and has substantial evidence to support that it is what happened indeed.

I'll leave it to the theists and religious people to do their praying before betting, but for me praying does not help in any way aside from helping you feel okay.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on June 10, 2021, 09:27:09 AM

Quote from: Sled on June 10, 2021, 09:01:50 AM

We ask for luck but it doesn't mean that we include god and pray for the win. Because god couldn't help us and he never hears our prayer for that thing. If we got lucky and win, then we might be thankful but if ever we lose, we don't have to blame anyone especially our god because nobody asks you to do that nor he was but it was your willingness.

Instead, we have to be confident on our bet, and that is by improving our skills in gambling, without that, we are only good if we are lucky, but most of the time we will just lose since we don't have the skills to give us consistency in gambling.

An interesting point of view and I agree when it comes to betting on the outcomes of sports events. I do not believe that you can beat a bookie over the long run, but it can be done in some cases. If we are talking about slots or dice, then it all depends on luck.

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We have some spiritual or religious connection with God we beleive in although they all are one and we do have a beleif that we all pray before doing anything so as it goes in our favor and gambling is mostly luck based so prayers are more often done in these uncertain moments.I have also prayed in my mind that god please the number on the roulette is same on which I have placed bet.So for me yes I do before gambling.The other fact is that once we win our belief increases over more and we make it our gambling routine.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 02:35:04 PM

Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

You might as well chuck a coin in a "lucky" water fountain or throw some salt over your shoulder, as making a prayer is a predictable yet meaningless waste of time. It is reserved for people who do not want to appreciate the simple mathematical odds that are inherent in almost every bet accepted by another party. Bookmakers for example were not made into huge companies by paying out a lot of winning bets, they make large profits because they analyse odds and statistics which over time will give them a useful picture of outcomes. The irony with praying is greed being heavily frowned upon in religious texts yet these people are usually looking for self enrichment above all others. It never worked, it is just a coincidence if you happen to select the correct outcome which will be formed by a certain chain of events.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 02:35:04 PM

Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

Lol no. Praying doesn't change your odds of winning a bet. And no, "spiritual beings" does not get involved or influence your gambling outcome. I guess the people you saw that were "praying" were not actually praying? They were just "hoping" and "wishing" that the next bet is a win. Like you know, how you mutter to yourself "please be a winning bet, please please". Something like this.
If praying would change your bet outcome, casinos would go bankrupt.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on June 10, 2021, 09:27:09 AM

Quote from: Sled on June 10, 2021, 09:01:50 AM

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Instead, we have to be confident on our bet, and that is by improving our skills in gambling, without that, we are only good if we are lucky, but most of the time we will just lose since we don't have the skills to give us consistency in gambling.

surely those who pray when gambling is trying to ask for luck...

I agree with you that gambling not only requires luck, skill is also very much needed so that we don't just give up our money for free just by luck. but until now I am still amazed by those who pray when gambling, strange to me.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 02:35:04 PM

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

God may not interfere and let the game do it's on course, not all prayers are heard, it's just a way for gamblers to make themselves believe that the bet is in favor of them, some gamblers do have this habit and they accept the results win or lose, we should let other gamblers do their ritual if that what they think will favor them.

Agree to that, those rituals are for people who believes in it, there are gamblers who continue
to believe that if they continue praying there might be an impact to their gambling habits.

When they win the mindsets gives them the believes that it was an answer prayer for them, though
I'm not believing in such kind but I respect those people.

Let them do whatever they've think that will help their chance to win.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 02:35:04 PM

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

God may not interfere and let the game do it's on course, not all prayers are heard, it's just a way for gamblers to make themselves believe that the bet is in favor of them, some gamblers do have this habit and they accept the results win or lose, we should let other gamblers do their ritual if that what they think will favor them.

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Quote from: Sled on June 10, 2021, 09:01:50 AM

We ask for luck but it doesn't mean that we include god and pray for the win. Because god couldn't help us and he never hears our prayer for that thing. If we got lucky and win, then we might be thankful but if ever we lose, we don't have to blame anyone especially our god because nobody asks you to do that nor he was but it was your willingness.

Instead, we have to be confident on our bet, and that is by improving our skills in gambling, without that, we are only good if we are lucky, but most of the time we will just lose since we don't have the skills to give us consistency in gambling.

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We ask for luck but it doesn't mean that we include god and pray for the win. Because god couldn't help us and he never hears our prayer for that thing. If we got lucky and win, then we might be thankful but if ever we lose, we don't have to blame anyone especially our god because nobody asks you to do that nor he was but it was your willingness.

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Quote from: aioc on June 09, 2021, 10:02:02 AM

I don't encourage or discourage it, but I don't judge people who do this, it's their way of life, if their religion tells them to pray every hour or whatever they do, we should let them, praying is a religious act, and we have to let other practice their religion, it will not harm you seeing other people pray while betting.

It won't harm you as they are the one who's performing it, those people who are still believing in this practice the see something that we don't, let them enjoy and bank it.

Who knows if that's working or not, as long as they are believing that the prayer that they are doing will help them to win, we do have our
own ways in believing to find our luck!

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 02:35:04 PM

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I'm not a devout religious believer, it's just that I also don't believe that God will bless those who play gambling
If God has to bless all gamblers, then how much must he make to win?

praying when buying the lottery, placing bets or playing slots is ridiculous to me
I would never want to do that, even I won the lottery several times when I didn't pray

^ That is the fact in here if you believe in God and read the Bible. It was clearly said there God has hated gambling activities.
You can read these verses of the Bible why God hates gambling, (Hebrews 13:5, and Exodus 20:17) it has a parable that gambling shows a lack of contentment and in (Proverbs 29:7; Psalm 41:1) can exploit poor people with the hope of get-quick rich scheme. So if you don't believe in these, don't pray while you are gambling, just gamble and hope there is luck. There is nothing that will happen even if your whole family member will pray for you and hope that you will win. Imagine, in the lottery, for one person to win, other people must lose.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 02:35:04 PM

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I'm not a devout religious believer, it's just that I also don't believe that God will bless those who play gambling
If God has to bless all gamblers, then how much must he make to win?

praying when buying the lottery, placing bets or playing slots is ridiculous to me
I would never want to do that, even I won the lottery several times when I didn't pray

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Quote from: matchi2011 on June 09, 2021, 10:45:50 AM

Quote from: aioc on June 09, 2021, 10:02:02 AM

I don't encourage or discourage it, but I don't judge people who do this, it's their way of life, if their religion tells them to pray every hour or whatever they do, we should let them, praying is a religious act, and we have to let other practice their religion, it will not harm you seeing other people pray while betting.

It won't harm you as they are the one who's performing it, those people who are still believing in this practice the see something that we don't, let them enjoy and bank it.

Who knows if that's working or not, as long as they are believing that the prayer that they are doing will help them to win, we do have our
own ways in believing to find our luck!

Luck is all we need and we know that this is something that cant really be attained through something even if we do tend to pray hard for us to win. Luck doesnt come if we wanted to but rather it do goes in random ways and this is why no matter how hard you do pray it wouldnt really matter at all.It is just a belief on where people do make it as a habit believing that they could be lucky once they do pray on but honestly luck chances cant neither be affected
on things of this world. Probabilities or possibilities will always matter and that should people to think of.

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Quote from: zanezane on June 09, 2021, 06:55:13 AM

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Coincidence and luck.

That's mostly the matter in gambling if you've been praying for your wins. You'll never know if your prayer has been answered or it's just a coincidence that luck is totally with you.

Don't rely too much on luck because there's no such thing as luck, it's just a fancy word for statistics and probability. There is no luck, you were just at the right place when the chips landed.

No such thing?

Well, there is. If you've been playing all of those luck based games. There is stats and probabilities on those games but it's on the side of the operator.

But being as a player, there's a thing that we call luck.

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