Topic: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Decentralized Debit Cards | OCaml | New Blockchain Platform - page 46. (Read 127671 times)
September 07, 2016, 11:25:42 AM
my vote is to stay in, I invested with faith, and I still hold the same faith today. I believe after the wallet is reviewed and released /9along with the IPO coins) then a portion of the funds should be released to the team, well earned in my opinion.
September 07, 2016, 09:52:36 AM
Ok, it seems wasserman99 agreed and I have read the following posts on here. The only more details about what I wrote might be that in these 2 weeks the wallet should be released. Without coins probably not of much use but still it might be possible for wasserman99 to show that there is something that exists in some way. So releasing the wallet only can help wasserman99 so less investors would like to get their coins back.
Besides that I think the post where wasserman99 agreed to my plan can serve as the starting point of the 2 weeks period in order to not delay things much more now.
I would like to ask wasserman99 to add a notice to the head of the first post in this thread in order to inform investors of phase 2 that they can decide on where their coins should flow to.
Please not that the escrow address is using a safety service that asks for 50k satoshies as an additional fee for every transaction. It's not a tip. Just for information.
Besides that I think the post where wasserman99 agreed to my plan can serve as the starting point of the 2 weeks period in order to not delay things much more now.
I would like to ask wasserman99 to add a notice to the head of the first post in this thread in order to inform investors of phase 2 that they can decide on where their coins should flow to.
Please not that the escrow address is using a safety service that asks for 50k satoshies as an additional fee for every transaction. It's not a tip. Just for information.
Great, we continue to work and within two weeks we will see that decided the remaining investors. Given all the suggestions we receive have only one doubt about 9% PoW: a) Remain the same. b) Use as premine. c) Delete it. All users who prove that are investors are able to vote. You can contact me by pm or slack.
The next step are:
1) Define this (9% PoW) before Friday.
2) On Friday communicating the decision to SJ.
3) If SJ agree, release the wallet few days after.
4) Start the distribution.
5) List on exchanges.
6) All users who ask for refund, before receive the refund must send his XPO to us or SJ to destroy that coins.
Regards
PS: OK, I just added this to the first post:
Quote
Important Update
After several discussions with the community and the escrow, the following was decided. During the next two weeks (until 19 September), investors in the second phase will decide whether to ask for a refund or if the funds will released to us. Everyone decides for its own investment. It is important that everyone can participate, because all funds of those who do not, will be released to us as agreed with the escrow.
Hi,
Remember that we are in the first point now...tomorrow night I will send the result to SJ, if he give me the ok we will release the wallet a few days later. For the moment, the results of the voting at the moment are: a) 1 - b) 4 - c) 3. There is very little participation, taking into account all investors who participated in the ICO. We expect more participation for today and tomorrow. We are only taken into account the votes of users who verify their investments to prevent outsiders become part of the voting.
Regards
PS: We already send these six rules/steps to SJ yesterday, so that he can give us his agreement. We are still waiting for his answer.
You have the email of every investor in hands, wouldn't you send out a email to notify them?
It's just common courtesy...
September 07, 2016, 09:13:23 AM
Ok, it seems wasserman99 agreed and I have read the following posts on here. The only more details about what I wrote might be that in these 2 weeks the wallet should be released. Without coins probably not of much use but still it might be possible for wasserman99 to show that there is something that exists in some way. So releasing the wallet only can help wasserman99 so less investors would like to get their coins back.
Besides that I think the post where wasserman99 agreed to my plan can serve as the starting point of the 2 weeks period in order to not delay things much more now.
I would like to ask wasserman99 to add a notice to the head of the first post in this thread in order to inform investors of phase 2 that they can decide on where their coins should flow to.
Please not that the escrow address is using a safety service that asks for 50k satoshies as an additional fee for every transaction. It's not a tip. Just for information.
Besides that I think the post where wasserman99 agreed to my plan can serve as the starting point of the 2 weeks period in order to not delay things much more now.
I would like to ask wasserman99 to add a notice to the head of the first post in this thread in order to inform investors of phase 2 that they can decide on where their coins should flow to.
Please not that the escrow address is using a safety service that asks for 50k satoshies as an additional fee for every transaction. It's not a tip. Just for information.
Great, we continue to work and within two weeks we will see that decided the remaining investors. Given all the suggestions we receive have only one doubt about 9% PoW: a) Remain the same. b) Use as premine. c) Delete it. All users who prove that are investors are able to vote. You can contact me by pm or slack.
The next step are:
1) Define this (9% PoW) before Friday.
2) On Friday communicating the decision to SJ.
3) If SJ agree, release the wallet few days after.
4) Start the distribution.
5) List on exchanges.
6) All users who ask for refund, before receive the refund must send his XPO to us or SJ to destroy that coins.
Regards
PS: OK, I just added this to the first post:
Quote
Important Update
After several discussions with the community and the escrow, the following was decided. During the next two weeks (until 19 September), investors in the second phase will decide whether to ask for a refund or if the funds will released to us. Everyone decides for its own investment. It is important that everyone can participate, because all funds of those who do not, will be released to us as agreed with the escrow.
Hi,
Remember that we are in the first point now...tomorrow night I will send the result to SJ, if he give me the ok we will release the wallet a few days later. For the moment, the results of the voting at the moment are: a) 1 - b) 4 - c) 3. There is very little participation, taking into account all investors who participated in the ICO. We expect more participation for today and tomorrow. We are only taken into account the votes of users who verify their investments to prevent outsiders become part of the voting.
Regards
PS: We already send these six rules/steps to SJ yesterday, so that he can give us his agreement. We are still waiting for his answer.
September 07, 2016, 05:37:48 AM
ok - so out the loop anyone have a coherent tl;dr?
I dropped some BTC in the ICO when bonuses were being issued - what's the status are we getting refunded or is this project going to happen?
I dropped some BTC in the ICO when bonuses were being issued - what's the status are we getting refunded or is this project going to happen?
You probably got ripped off, but still slim chance you'll see something
September 07, 2016, 03:46:54 AM
ok - so out the loop anyone have a coherent tl;dr?
I dropped some BTC in the ICO when bonuses were being issued - what's the status are we getting refunded or is this project going to happen?
I dropped some BTC in the ICO when bonuses were being issued - what's the status are we getting refunded or is this project going to happen?
September 06, 2016, 11:15:16 PM
not github updata , again 
September 06, 2016, 07:08:48 PM
Ok, I feel a bit better. Seems things are back on track.
September 06, 2016, 05:17:25 PM
can't believe ppl lost their mind for mere bounties.
if dev is working on one project, your bounty will be paid. otherwise, the project can't go on. it is only matter of time.
he is not running away.
no need such curse.
if dev is working on one project, your bounty will be paid. otherwise, the project can't go on. it is only matter of time.
he is not running away.
no need such curse.
September 06, 2016, 04:28:17 PM
I would like a little better explanation of how "decentralized debit-cards" are supposed to work.
Are they supposed to be able to be used at point of sale purchases? If so, how is that supposed to work? The reason businesses except your current banks Visa, or Mastercard debit-card is because of the centralized entity(Visa, or Mastercard) that backs up the purchases. Anyone could print up a bunch of cards that are not backed by Visa, or Mastercard....but no one is going to accept them for purchases.
Banks also offer a non-branded debit-card for people with only a savings account. This debit-card is only used to withdraw money from your banks ATM. It cannot be used for purchases. I do not see how this could be an option either because you need the centralized entity(your bank) to hold an account and offer withdrawal services through the ATM.
None of the above would allow even a fraction of decentralization.
Are they supposed to be able to be used at point of sale purchases? If so, how is that supposed to work? The reason businesses except your current banks Visa, or Mastercard debit-card is because of the centralized entity(Visa, or Mastercard) that backs up the purchases. Anyone could print up a bunch of cards that are not backed by Visa, or Mastercard....but no one is going to accept them for purchases.
Banks also offer a non-branded debit-card for people with only a savings account. This debit-card is only used to withdraw money from your banks ATM. It cannot be used for purchases. I do not see how this could be an option either because you need the centralized entity(your bank) to hold an account and offer withdrawal services through the ATM.
None of the above would allow even a fraction of decentralization.
Hi,
Take a look:
Debit cards were in our minds since day one, for it is one of the preferred payment methods of customers nowadays and we aim to mass market adoption, so this goal may not be too surprising. The idea is to eliminate all the intermediaries in the process in order to save time and money, and also the unwanted consequences that brings centralization (frozen accounts, delays, usage of our own private information, etc). Note that it will have disadvantages such as if you wish to create and load your own cards you will need to have a particular hardware. On the other hand, there will be lots of payment terminals/point of sale terminals that will receive a special update with a custom firmware made by us in order to accept our debit cards (this will happen with payment terminals/point of sale non- EMV compatibles). In most terminals compatible with EMV (for more information about EMV visit: http://www.emv-connection.com/emv-faq/ and https://www.level2kernel.com/emv-guide.html) will work without any problems but you can still use our firmware to have advantages like counting with Opair´s branding or offer high performance. Technical details will be available on our whitepaper.
Our final goal it is that any person can create their own debit card, anywhere, and a few moments later, carry it out and about without difficulties. We would like to be the firsts in launching this feature that we will be seeked and cherished in the near future and as we are an open source project we would like to share it to all the community as we understand this philosophy as a benefit that benefits the community as a whole. This will also allow growth, improvement and usage from other projects.
Regards
September 06, 2016, 01:02:26 PM
Ok ,all my believe and trust in this project is back , i do not want a refund (even if if i wanna) , so now i just wait for 2 weeks and than i got my nice and shining coins , i cant wait
Lol really? You are convinced easily. First I need to see the wallet he presents.
Why is he still holding back on the signature campaign the people who made the ICO possible are on hold, claiming it will be paid after escrow released? Perhaps to run off wiith BTC7 extra coins?
Where are Frank and HAO to take any concerns away?
I hope the Signature Camp getting payed , this people have done a very big promotion for this coin ,im one them too ! Stay your Men and to Word !!
September 06, 2016, 12:48:16 PM
Ok ,all my believe and trust in this project is back , i do not want a refund (even if if i wanna) , so now i just wait for 2 weeks and than i got my nice and shining coins , i cant wait
Lol really? You are convinced easily. First I need to see the wallet he presents.
Why is he still holding back on the signature campaign the people who made the ICO possible are on hold, claiming it will be paid after escrow released? Perhaps to run off wiith BTC7 extra coins?
Where are Frank and HAO to take any concerns away?
September 06, 2016, 12:06:02 PM
Ok ,all my believe and trust in this project is back , i do not want a refund (even if if i wanna) , so now i just wait for 2 weeks and than i got my nice and shining coins , i cant wait
September 06, 2016, 11:18:39 AM
Ok, it seems wasserman99 agreed and I have read the following posts on here. The only more details about what I wrote might be that in these 2 weeks the wallet should be released. Without coins probably not of much use but still it might be possible for wasserman99 to show that there is something that exists in some way. So releasing the wallet only can help wasserman99 so less investors would like to get their coins back.
Besides that I think the post where wasserman99 agreed to my plan can serve as the starting point of the 2 weeks period in order to not delay things much more now.
I would like to ask wasserman99 to add a notice to the head of the first post in this thread in order to inform investors of phase 2 that they can decide on where their coins should flow to.
Please not that the escrow address is using a safety service that asks for 50k satoshies as an additional fee for every transaction. It's not a tip. Just for information.
Besides that I think the post where wasserman99 agreed to my plan can serve as the starting point of the 2 weeks period in order to not delay things much more now.
I would like to ask wasserman99 to add a notice to the head of the first post in this thread in order to inform investors of phase 2 that they can decide on where their coins should flow to.
Please not that the escrow address is using a safety service that asks for 50k satoshies as an additional fee for every transaction. It's not a tip. Just for information.
Great, we continue to work and within two weeks we will see that decided the remaining investors. Given all the suggestions we receive have only one doubt about 9% PoW: a) Remain the same. b) Use as premine. c) Delete it. All users who prove that are investors are able to vote. You can contact me by pm or slack.
The next step are:
1) Define this (9% PoW) before Friday.
2) On Friday communicating the decision to SJ.
3) If SJ agree, release the wallet few days after.
4) Start the distribution.
5) List on exchanges.
6) All users who ask for refund, before receive the refund must send his XPO to us or SJ to destroy that coins.
Regards
PS: OK, I just added this to the first post:
Quote
Important Update
After several discussions with the community and the escrow, the following was decided. During the next two weeks (until 19 September), investors in the second phase will decide whether to ask for a refund or if the funds will released to us. Everyone decides for its own investment. It is important that everyone can participate, because all funds of those who do not, will be released to us as agreed with the escrow.
September 06, 2016, 10:33:02 AM
I would like a little better explanation of how "decentralized debit-cards" are supposed to work.
Are they supposed to be able to be used at point of sale purchases? If so, how is that supposed to work? The reason businesses except your current banks Visa, or Mastercard debit-card is because of the centralized entity(Visa, or Mastercard) that backs up the purchases. Anyone could print up a bunch of cards that are not backed by Visa, or Mastercard....but no one is going to accept them for purchases.
Banks also offer a non-branded debit-card for people with only a savings account. This debit-card is only used to withdraw money from your banks ATM. It cannot be used for purchases. I do not see how this could be an option either because you need the centralized entity(your bank) to hold an account and offer withdrawal services through the ATM.
None of the above would allow even a fraction of decentralization.
Are they supposed to be able to be used at point of sale purchases? If so, how is that supposed to work? The reason businesses except your current banks Visa, or Mastercard debit-card is because of the centralized entity(Visa, or Mastercard) that backs up the purchases. Anyone could print up a bunch of cards that are not backed by Visa, or Mastercard....but no one is going to accept them for purchases.
Banks also offer a non-branded debit-card for people with only a savings account. This debit-card is only used to withdraw money from your banks ATM. It cannot be used for purchases. I do not see how this could be an option either because you need the centralized entity(your bank) to hold an account and offer withdrawal services through the ATM.
None of the above would allow even a fraction of decentralization.
September 06, 2016, 10:26:10 AM
Looking toward this project, hope my $200 investment will worth everything i wait 
September 06, 2016, 10:23:17 AM
I'm interested in this coin. I will try to buy under ICO after launch. 
I think it's quite difficult to buy XPO under ICO price unless this project is not like as the thread was said before
I believe this project will run smoothly with potential functions
September 06, 2016, 10:08:15 AM
I'm interested in this coin. I will try to buy under ICO after launch.
September 06, 2016, 08:56:27 AM
Ok, it seems wasserman99 agreed and I have read the following posts on here. The only more details about what I wrote might be that in these 2 weeks the wallet should be released. Without coins probably not of much use but still it might be possible for wasserman99 to show that there is something that exists in some way. So releasing the wallet only can help wasserman99 so less investors would like to get their coins back.
Besides that I think the post where wasserman99 agreed to my plan can serve as the starting point of the 2 weeks period in order to not delay things much more now.
I would like to ask wasserman99 to add a notice to the head of the first post in this thread in order to inform investors of phase 2 that they can decide on where their coins should flow to.
Please not that the escrow address is using a safety service that asks for 50k satoshies as an additional fee for every transaction. It's not a tip. Just for information.
Besides that I think the post where wasserman99 agreed to my plan can serve as the starting point of the 2 weeks period in order to not delay things much more now.
I would like to ask wasserman99 to add a notice to the head of the first post in this thread in order to inform investors of phase 2 that they can decide on where their coins should flow to.
Please not that the escrow address is using a safety service that asks for 50k satoshies as an additional fee for every transaction. It's not a tip. Just for information.
Great, we continue to work and within two weeks we will see that decided the remaining investors. Given all the suggestions we receive have only one doubt about 9% PoW: a) Remain the same. b) Use as premine. c) Delete it. All users who prove that are investors are able to vote. You can contact me by pm or slack.
The next step are:
1) Define this (9% PoW) before Friday.
2) On Friday communicating the decision to SJ.
3) If SJ agree, release the wallet few days after.
4) Start the distribution.
5) List on exchanges.
6) All users who ask for refund, before receive the refund must send his XPO to us or SJ to destroy that coins.
Regards
PS: OK, I just added this to the first post:
Quote
Important Update
After several discussions with the community and the escrow, the following was decided. During the next two weeks (until 19 September), investors in the second phase will decide whether to ask for a refund or if the funds will released to us. Everyone decides for its own investment. It is important that everyone can participate, because all funds of those who do not, will be released to us as agreed with the escrow.
You have all investors email in hands through opair.co...
Email them to inform the discussion about what is going on on the forum, and about the possibility of getting a refund.
September 06, 2016, 07:51:39 AM
If you think we can get on a decent exchange, POW doesn't really serve a purpose. It just broadens distribution slightly to people who will be paying slightly less than those who invested in ICO. I'm fine with not having it if it allows you to distribute coins now instead of later.
edit: As long as you agree not to sell any XPO until you needs funds for features other than the ones you already said were happening, I don't have a preference whether it's a premine or never created.
edit: As long as you agree not to sell any XPO until you needs funds for features other than the ones you already said were happening, I don't have a preference whether it's a premine or never created.
September 06, 2016, 07:44:03 AM
I sell office opair of 0.25 btc, for 0.2 btc if anyone believes in this project please write PM
ps. wasserman99 about bounties forgot.
ps. wasserman99 about bounties forgot.
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