Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 176. (Read 72290 times)

We know that Southampton are a weak team. But at the same time, Manchester United is a team whose performance is impossible to predict. The performance of this group is very erratic. No wonder Manchester United dropped points against Southampton. As Southampton will play for a draw in this match. So breaking Southampton's defense will be more difficult for Manchester United's players.

On the other hand, Liverpool team will have an easy win against Nottingham Forest. Liverpool and Manchester City are in very good form this season. Importantly, Liverpool have yet to concede a single goal this season. Liverpool's attack is also strong. So Liverpool can easily get 3 points against a team like Nottingham Forest.

How confident are you that Manchester United will win over Southampton with the bold writing you gave.
Liverpool, Manchester City and Brighton for me, maybe the chances of winning make me confident to bet on them, while for Manchester United it doesn't.

Of the four matches you mentioned, I will include them in the betting list but my choice is the Southampton vs Manchester United match is a draw. Liverpool, Manchester City, Brighton I choose to win. This bet is 1x2.

Manchester United has better quality players than Southampton at the moment, but it can be said that the performance of the two teams is not much different at the moment, so it is too risky for us to bet on one of these teams to be winning later, Manchester United is in poor performance even though they have made a lot of improvements in the transfer market this season, apart from that, if I look at the meetings between the two teams so far, I see that Manchester United always experience difficulties when facing Southampton in the English league and that's why I also doubt that Manchester United will be able to beat Southampton in the match, I I personally see that it is very likely that the match will end in a draw if you look at the current condition of the two teams.

All club management always places great trust in the Manager who has just been appointed as head coach, moreover, before selecting a Manager who is considered capable of improving the quality of the team, the Management first carries out a selection from several available Managers. Based on Manchester United's current performance, extending Ten Hag's contract is a big mistake made by the Management, they must be firm when it comes to work so they can immediately save the club from a deeper slump. Some Great Managers are still available right now, Zidane and Tuchel are experienced managers, I think if Manchester United Management chose one of those two names, maybe the situation would be different.

The case of dismissing a manager is nothing new in football, several great coaches have also experienced it, such as Jose Mourinho, Thomas Tuchel, Julian Nagelsmann and several other great coaches. Manchester United seem too cold with Ten Hag even though they know the team's performance is difficult to improve under his management. I am very skeptical about Ten Hag's ability this season, especially since the EPL is getting more competitive after Liverpool returned to their best form after appointing a new coach. Dark horse teams like Aston Villa, Brighton and Newcastle are also ready to provide a surprise, So Manchester United chances of finishing in the European zone at the end of the season are very small.

It's very obvious that Erik Ten Hag is having a slow start this season, I think the board are already aware of that but you don't expect them to just sack him immediately since the league just started and they just extended his contract, they'll wait patiently to see how it goes and if things doesn't get better by the end of the year then they'll have no option than to terminate his contract by January, and I feel that there's a replacement already in the team for him in person of his assistant (Ruud Van Nistelrooy) who was a former player of the club and club legend. Talking about other clubs, remember that Arsenal didn't sack Arteta even after two years of poor performance they gave him time and watched him become successful, however Ten Hag was successful in his 1st season, he finished in top 4 and won a trophy and even participated in several finals and even though the 2nd season in the EPL wasn't as expected cause he finished in 8th position, atleast he still Won the FA Cup so that's enough reason for the board to consider giving him another chance and if he fails to deliver they'll definitely sack him, afterall they were in talks with other potential managers during the Pre-Season before they considered giving Erik Ten Hag a second chance.

I don't understand what you mean by Manchester United has to obey Ten Hag, my question is, is Erik Ten Hag bigger than the club or is the club bigger than him? The club didn't even obey a high profiled manager like Mourinho talk more of Ten Hag, what you don't understand is that the board had a meeting at the end of last season to deliberate on sacking him but pardoned him based on his achievements in just 2 years of arrival which is participating in several finals about 6 or so, winning the Carabao Cup and Winning the FA against the most outstanding team in the league, it's now left for Ten Hag to make use of his second chance wisely cause if by January the board are not satisfied with the teams performance then he might end up losing his position as the manager of that club.

It seems as if we are walking together with your prediction I just placed my bet this morning before coming to this thread and I saw this post.

Exectly what I predicted but I wasn't have good confidence with the Southampton Vs Manchester United match so I decided to give the alway team Manchester United win or draw option though Manchester United are favorite to win this particular game but due to poor performance this season after winning only one game out of struggle and lost two.

But I believe they can't loss to Southampton because Southampton are also not in a good form that is why I gave Manchester United ×2.

Sorry I don't understand your statement that you prefer them (Manchester United) over Southampton, does that mean you choose Manchester United, right? Then why did you say Southampton will try hard to win because they are playing at home? Does that mean you prefer the home team to win this match? I'm honestly a little confused by what you're saying.
In my opinion, no matter how bad Manchester United's performance is, it will be more embarrassing for them if Man United is defeated by a promoted club, it will lower their reputation, so I don't think it matters even though this is an away match for Manchester United because I think they will try hard to steal points from the home team, whether it's 1 point or 3 points.

Handing over the club to a new manager means placing more trust in the new manager than the previous manager and expecting the team to perform well under the new manager. Manchester United expected that and relied on Ten Hag but far from improving the team's performance this manager has consistently deteriorated under him.  

In the case of other clubs, if a new manager is appointed, if that manager does not perform well, then the manager is removed from the responsibility of the next season, but Manchester United did not do that, they only trusted this manager. Under this manager the team performed poorly for the entire season but they trusted this manager for one more season which resulted in this manager consistently making the team a bad team.  

Since Manchester United has extended the contract with this manager for one more season, this manager may be seen in Manchester United for one more season, but the manager of Manchester United may change in the next season.

Je pushes ghe blame of poor performance on the players so tell me how will he imlrove when he is shying away from nog accepting the facts that if the players are not doing well on the pitch, it os him that is not doing well too. He hates criticism and i think he should be criticized if that is what will make him improve the club performance or leave the club. Ten Hag needs to know how to be in good relationship with the players maybe that will help him in his job.

It's probably going to be an away or draw game, from my perspective even it's a mere prediction that could go side ways I still see capacity in Manchester united although their flaws are likely to increase since their last match but I see would pick them over Southampton. one reason I believe Southampton will be on their nerves to win Manchester United is the fact that it's their home and letting someone beat you in your home is very shameful so trying to put this shame out Southampton would probably be forced to do better than Manchester united.

In fact, if we look further, the criticism for Manchester United actually occurs not only from Cristiano alone and we must also realize that criticism occurs because of someone's dissatisfaction with what he has shown to date.

Indeed,  i wouldnt appear to defend Cristiano for criticizing Manchester United, which in this case he has gone too far and criticizing will only bring up conflicts that have long subsided. But on the other hand in this case Ten Hag must also realize that in the end, Manchester United current performance is still worthy of criticism and he cannot argue with that because Manchester United currently still seems monotonous and even very bad to watch.

What he needs to do is not need to respond to criticism but prove that he can get out of this complicated situation with a good performance but what happens now is that Ten Hag still cannot change his attitude because it still looks the same as in previous seasons.

Honestly the match between Manchester United and the Southampton will be very interesting match, because very teams will like to win the match especially when they’ve give the Southampton higher chance of winning they will not want anything that will implement them to avoid them; and Manchester United can also put in much effort so that they can able to dominate the entire match.

The match is going to be a tough and interesting one, because I will say the two teams are weak teams, because we all can see how Manchester United have been performing poorly since last season, and there is no improvement in the teams performance even this current season. Manchester United will find their match against Southampton so difficult, but they should be able to win the match, even if it's not going to be an easy one for them. Manchester United performed poorly in all the matches that they have played this season, they managed to win just one match, so I think they should be able to win or draw against Southampton.

I will also take the risk by placing a bet on Manchester United to win the match, but I am not so confident that they will be winning the match. Southampton is not a strong club, so Manchester United should be able to secure a win in the match.

Ronaldo only made his observations and opinion known. He is a legend for the club and many other legends of different clubs from time to time make comments and give suggestions concerning the clubs they played for. Rio, Neville, Rooney and others have expressed their displeasure with how United is performing. Ronaldo shouldn’t be criticized for saying that, we all know he is saying the truth. I see Ten Hag slowly moving towards his last days as Manchester United manager because up till now he has not been able to transform United to a better side. They say truth is bitter, I guess that is why he is quick to respond to Ronaldo’s comments.

This, Liverpool might seems as the best team as the season's  just began now but I have lost trust on them especially after their disappointing performance towards last season ending that made them the title favourite, who will do it again, that's taking the Epl title from Manchester City but sadly they failed and Arsenal did better till the season ending though after also having inconsistency issues but bounce back way better to continue in the title race. This is the reason I think Arsenal might just be the team to take the Epl trophy from Manchester City this season.

Ironically Arsenal are Robinhood to be frank but they are not the only ones though most inconsistent clubs in Epl are same notably Chelsea and Manchester United, probably will give their all against big team but meeting smaller teams it will be shocking how did they just got dominated or outclassed by these teams.

Though Arsenal I becoming better from the fact that as seasons goes by they are becoming less inconsistent and way better than Manchester United and Chelsea in terms of consistency, funny even better than Liverpool last season also in terms of consistency

If we want to be honest with Manchester United, we should consider that the season has not gone so far yet for we to know how inconsistent a team is performing. Even when Manchester United is in their good form, they have always found it difficult to beat Brighton. Another club that defeated Manchester United is Liverpool, and we all can attest that Liverpool is a good side in the English Premier League. Apart from Brighton and Liverpool, Manchester United has not recorded any other defeat. So, it will not be so correct to classify Manchester United of this season as poor until they prove otherwise.

In the other hand, Southampton is a weak relegation side which might not pose any serious threat to Manchester United. So, betting on Manchester United is not that a big risk.

Manchester United is stronger than Southampton, and Manchester United is the favorite to win the game. But let it be known that anything can happen in football, because even Southampton fans will not be happy with their team if they continue to lose games. Let’s see what will happen tomorrow. It is very possible that Manchester United cannot afford to lose or draw the game against Southampton because they are not on the same level of rating.If Ten Hag does not come up with wrong information, Manchester United should find the game easy to win, despite it being Southampton's home game. Sometimes the fault does not always come from the players, but from the coach not doing the right thing at the right time. Ten Hag has been making mistakes, such as not bringing the right players onto the pitch, and even when making substitutions, not doing so at the right time.

Ten Hag should realize that he is wrong. He should also realize that the decision of him forcing Cristiano Ronaldo has hurt the club more than anything. I am pretty sure that he still believes he has not made any mistake by making Cristiano Ronaldo get out of Manchester United.  like every decision he has taken has not been good for Manchester United and I do not understand why  Manchester United is still keeping him as the coach.

Just look at the current situation of Manchester United.  there was a time when they were firing coaches because they were unable to win the English Premier League title.  and now they are keeping the coach who has made every bad decision that he could just because he was able to win the FA Cup. That how visible that all fall of Manchester United is. the worst part is that the Manchester United authority seem to be careless about that. I do not believe people should have any kind of expectation from him anymore.

Erik Ten Hag has a personal problem with Ronaldo and will not take any criticism however constructive it may be from the United legend. I don’t see this as Ronaldo trash talking the manager who sabotaged him at his club. I see it as Ronaldo trying to save the club. People are hypocritical when it comes to Ronaldo. Everything he said about the club was correct.

EtH saying they are not going to fight to win the league or champions league shows that the management has settled for being a mid table club. Combined with Sir Jim Ratcliffe statements about not putting pressure on ETH to finish top-four confirms that the club has accepted and supports mediocrity from the players and the manager.

Which is currently being considered Southampton is currently still slumping. so is United. even some of their players are reportedly still injured. Ten Hag must really pay attention to their defense line if he doesn't want to lose in the match later. maybe his career will really be determined in the next few United matches.

The odds offered are also more profitable for United. but maybe the results won't be that good. I actually think a draw is very likely to happen in this match.