Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 179. (Read 72282 times)

The first three lines of your post was beginning to make me doubt your football knowledge but when I read to the last three, I came to realize you're very much aware of how unpredictable Manchester United is since Erik ten Hag became the manager of the English Premier League club. Southampton will play that game against Manchester United at the Saint Mary's stadium which is their home and fortress so I expect them to put in their best in that game in other to get a good result.

That being said, Manchester United like I earlier said is very unpredictable which is why I can't totally write them off in getting all three points from that game. If the Red Devils can be at their best with the quality and world class players at their disposal, I think they can as well have an easy day at the office in that game

In the fourth week of the EPL league, this is one of the interesting matches for us to look forward to, how could it not be because the Southampton vs Man United match is a match that could affect Ten Hag's career with Man United after they experienced consecutive defeats that made Erik Ten Hag in the shadow of dismissal if he failed to get 3 points in this match.

The two consecutive defeats are very difficult for many fans to accept, especially since Ten Hag is supported by a number of top recruits this summer. If Man United can't win this match, I wouldn't be surprised if Ten Hag was immediately fired.

However, what is certain is that this match puts Ten Hag under great pressure, especially since in the last three matches they have played poorly and there are no signs that Ten Hag will improve the team because the decision to select players and when replacing players always makes mistakes. To be honest, even though statistically Man United is superior in this match, I don't dare bet on Man United to win. I predict this match will end in a draw or even Man United will lose.

Southampton has 3 consecutive league losses, but Man United has two, and they're playing in Southampton. So looking only at the current season stats, it's not clear if it will be an easy one for Man United.
I expect Southampton will focus on defence, knowing how desperate Man Utd will be for a win, and then will be looking for quick counter attacks and I wouldn't be much surprised if they manage to get 3 points.
Ten Hag's team demonstrated last season that their attacking power is very poor for a club aspiring to be at the top. This season is even worse with only two goals scored in 3 games. Luckily Southampton is even worse, with 1 goal scored, so maybe a goalless draw would be a good bet?

I am still surprised, because many people still think that  Manchester United has good squad depth and also, about Manchester United's defense line, many people still say that Manchester United has a good or better defense line compared to last season. Because inf act, Manchester United is still bad because sofar Manchester United has conceded five goals,and I think that is a bad defense line because the season has just started.

Thus, ofcourse Manchester United still has to improve the quality of their squad depth and also their defense line which is still very weak. So, there is nothing to be proud of with the  results that Manchester United has had so far, because they are still  bad.

The transition period for a team is unlikely to take place more than half a season, so I think it is too much if we consider what is happening to Manchester United now as a transition period for ten hag, if we look at what happened to Manchester United in 2 seasons Ten Hag previous coaching, of course we can say that their performance was very bad after spending a lot of money, so the only way that might work to improve Manchester United performance seems to be to fire Ten Hag at this time and change with other coach, Manchester United seems to have to act firmly on Ten Hag so that by So maybe there will be an improvement in their current performance, even Ronaldo also said if Ten Hag should must listened to what Ruud Van Nistelrooy, Rio Ferdinand and Scholes had to say because they really know more about Manchester United so far, but I think So far Ten Hag still adheres to all the absolute decisions he made while coaching.

The match against Southampton at the weekend should be an easy match for Manchester United, considering that Southampton is currently in a bad condition after consecutive defeats, but we also cannot guarantee that Manchester United will win easily in this match, because the strategy often implemented by Ten Hag in a match actually became a Boomerang which destroyed themselves like when they faced Brighton in previously match.

Ten Hag has been doing poorly for Manchester United and the team under him has been underperforming regularly yet the management can't drop this manager now as his contract has been extended for one more season after his contract expired. This manager has been in charge of Manchester United for a long time but there were zero team achievements under him, but Manchester United should have terminated his contract and appointed a new manager.  Manchester United are too late to catch up. Manchester United may have to finish another season at the bottom of the points table. But they should plan for the next season by accepting that the team performance will be poor this season and they should find the manager who will perform well and discuss with him in advance.

Manchester United should be able to win the game because Southampton is not a strong team but it depends on how they play very well in the game because we all know Manchester United's coach is not that coach that knows how to coach a team to win a game, Manchester united coach is not a good coach for Manchester united and keeping him in that team will keep making things worst for the team, Erik ten Hag may have a better season in some team's but for me I don't think he can control Manchester united.

Manchester United has a game on the weekend and let's observe the game very well and see the kind of formation and the players Erik Ten Hag will use in the game, many coaches will make mistakes and will want to correct but Erik Ten Hag will still repeat them the same thing in the next game and that is one of the things that used to affect Manchester united and that kind of coach doesn't deserve to be Manchester United coach.

There is nothing to hope for anymore, Ten Hag has failed to make progress since he came to be Manchester United's coach even though there has been a lot of support and money spent to support Ten Hag to bring in players as he wants but the result is still the same.

Manchester United management just extended his contract at the beginning of last season so there is no other choice for Manchester United management but to wait or give time for Ten Hag this season.
Two defeats that have been suffered from the first 3 matches are not a good thing for the Manchester United team that has a high target this season and even the bad results will have a big impact on the mentality and confidence of the players and even the coach to face the next match.

Erik Ten Hag has entered his 3rd season at Manchester United but he has not been able to give his best for the club he coaches, failing in the Premier League title race and failing to go further in the Champions League should have given Man United a lot of lessons and they should look for a better coach than Erik Ten Hag.
There several good coaches, for some reason Man United still retains Erik Ten Hag, even after spending a lot of money, this coach still can't give his best.

But I heard news that if Erik Ten Hag has not been able to improve Man United's performance until the end of 2024 he will be fired so currently Man United still gives him time to make improvements to the team.

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Ten Hag has spent two seasons of his career with Manchester United and now he has entered his third season there, there is no longer a transition period for a coach who has handled the team in his third season, especially since the management has spent a lot of money to facilitate him to bring in quality players. The sacking must be done immediately before it is too late, two defeats in three games indicate that Ten Hag is incompetent to handle Manchester United.

Ten Hag must target a win at Southampton to boost the players' confidence, the opponents they face after the international break are very weak, three points must be brought home to improve their position in the standings.

I think for this season Arsenal position will not be different from what happened last season and even with the number of their players injured at the moment it seems like second place will also be difficult for them to achieve, Liverpool and Newcastle in my opinion are more likely to occupy positions 2 and 3 considering their performance they have been very consistent so far, while Brighton and Aston Villa look like one of the two clubs will fail to make it into the top 5, because there is no guarantee that they can continue to maintain their performance this season, especially since Aston Villa will be faced with a busy schedule with playing in champions league so clearly it will affect their consistency in the future, while the battle for the top 4 positions I think will happen between tottenham, arsenal and chelsea, most likely one of them will get it at the end of the season, if  you are still include Manchester United in the team list which will end the season in European competition, I personally doubt that at this time Manchester United will be worthy of getting a place  evenin the European zone in end season later.

there is absolutely no transition that man united is undergoing now. At the moment, we can't point at the future of the club or identify what they are even working on that has made them this unstable. For the Chelsea team, we know what's thier problem is the new set of players that lack some form of experience in the team and you can see them growing and becoming more matured and stable with more games they've played but that's never the case with man united. Almost all the players have turned out to be average players right from the onana that's still creating different scenes in almost all the games he's featured in to other experience players like rashford, and casimero that are both dropping in Thier form at every games they've played. Don't be supprised that after returning from this break and going up against southernton, they might draw the game or even suffer a defeat in that game. If they allowed Liverpool play them in thier home ground as though they where playing against a team that's just coming out of the academy or one that's in a relegated zone, is it when they play away that they will do better? Let them underate Southampton first and get the shorker of thier lives. This season is a tough one and any team you're going against, you have to brace up as though you're an underdog or else you receive the highest beating of your life.

Well, I support your opinion about Arsenal condition at the start of this season which was so bad having to lose important players who were injured. Realistically Arteta will have a little difficulty dealing with this problem because it is not clear who will replace the player when he is absent from the match. Maybe the situation can change when playing at home, but unfortunately Arsenal have to play away and have no choice but to try to get 1 point from Spurs. On the one hand in the upcoming match Man City and Liverpool get very easy opponents. So if in the match this weekend if Arsenal loses points it will likely end badly.

Arne Slot appreciates the line up that Klopp has built since the past and he still uses the same line up now. It's just that he makes a few changes to get consistent results.

Yeah, I also believe that. Arteta will not have it easy to compete with Liverpool who are now back with more consistent performances.

I also have my fair share of doubts about City's performance. If Haaland faces injury this season, Manchester City's performance will be erratic, I'm sure. Manchester United should not sell Alvarez at all. Alvarez's excellent performances have helped to keep Manchester City's overall performance consistent. Alvarez's goals have also led to City wins in several key matches. I look forward to seeing which player Guardiola selects as Haaland's replacement if Haaland suffers an injury.



This season I think Liverpool team is in the best rhythm. Liverpool won all three matches. But the most important thing is that this team has not conceded a single goal in three matches. Liverpool performed brilliantly in this match. On the other hand, I had high expectations from Arsenal. However, Arsenal failed to win against Brighton in the last match. Arsenal should perform more carefully in every match.

Picking the first ten clubs in the Premier League Competition shouldn't be based on just the recent performance ( which I see a whole lotta people doing ) but should be long term. Manchester United has did good business when it comes to the defense. With consistency Erik Ten Hag with fill up the potholes. They have one of the best depth in defense unlike last season with too many Injuries. Glad to also see Luke Shaw and Tyrell Malacia joining in soon. There's nothing control.V about placing them there they would be third place at the end of the campaign next season. I won't say they have a better squad but this one would be consistent.

I don't see them sacking Erik Ten Hag. Manchester United fans are just too impatient. Prior to the new season, Erik Ten Hag told the press how the sqaud is not ready. And don't forget, you want change and growth, then you have to give the manager time yes this might be his third season in charge but emphasis on the time. They'll deff start winning soon ( Southampton ) hopefully Garnacho and Amad are the flankers.

It should be like this.

- Manchester City

- Liverpool

- Arsenal

Arsenal is done with their injury waves at the early season. They looked bad with so many midfielders injured. They're missing Rice, Ode, and Merino in the upcoming game. This will make them struggle to win the upcoming game against Spurs. It gives City and Liverpool chances to widen their gap to them if they lose against Totenham.

A new Liverpool manager is not a good reason to underestimate their performance. In fact, they're still using the same squad that was competing for the title race last season. And they're getting better.

That's why i think Arsenal may be finishing below Liverpool.

Well said to be honest with you. Erik Ten Hag has been here for a good while now, and his style of play is just unrecognizable till now. If they had been winning games as often as they lose or draw, this would have been impressive because an unrecognizable style of play can be crucial, no one can beat you that way. But in reality, his style of football is weird, because he wants his team to transition very well. Apparently, the best transitioning team in the world were his supposed goal. Well, not quite, clearly.

If it was something like he had inherited a squad where he was not allowed to invest much and then struggled, it would have been understandable, but no, that's not the case either. So is it the players being lazy and not picking up on the tactics..? Or is it bad coaching, where Erik Ten Hag cannot really implement a proper style of play into the players? Whatever it is, ETH has to take charge now and fix things.



Enzo Maresca is an ambitious man, and has great footballing sense. For whatever atrocity Chelsea's owners do on the market cannot be blamed upon Enzo Maresca. He is doing great things and trying to fix the Chelsea squad to develop a winning team. I think with some time, the team can reach far, and at this moment, they are better than United for sure.

I agree with you, Manchester city are the favorite  to win the EPL title  due to their form, and unchanged  squad from the previous  season  however, I have a doubt if they will be able to rewrite history again  and set a more difficult  record to be broken. I.e due to the competitiveness of this season, I doubt  if they'll  be able to win the EPL title ones again. Arsenal and Liverpool has been on a good form, we also have Brighton on top form this season, i hope they keep up with this form, to make the league  more competitive.  The record broken by Manchester City, only makes it obvious that they have no worthy competitors during the last 4 seasons. The more competitive it gets, the more interesting the league becomes. But currently Premier League is considered  by many as farmers league.

Obviously my choice of placing Manchester United in top 4 is controversial, considering their present performance. But I did consider some things which includes;
1. Manchester United has a better squad compared to last year;
2. Manchester United management might fire Erik Ten Hang in the next few matches if he remains poor. If this happens and a new coach is employed, Manchester United will make top 4. Otherwise, there is no way they will be there with their current coach.

Ten Hag joined United as a manager in May 2022, so that's over 2 years. If he didn't make it to properly set the team by now, probably it will never happen.
I was really surprised the club owners decided to keep him in. I suspect it could simply be due to them not being able to find a suitable replacement. But, unless some miracle happen, this is almost certainly his last season in the club. Man United cannot afford to stay outside of the top 4 for multiple years in a row. They need the revenue from the Champions League as well as from selling merchandise to fans worldwide, which is not easy when they end up in the middle of the table.


I can't even imagine what would happen if Man United were to lose this one. Their fans would not take that lightly.