Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 177. (Read 72291 times)

I have a slim believe that Manchester United may not go three games on losing streak because if they do that their fans will criticize them a lot because it will be a very bad experience that they lose three consecutive matches at this early stage of the league even after they signed players that are supposed to make good impact to the well-being of the team so I strongly believe they won't lose to Southampton instead they may likely share a point in the game but to strongly stake Manchester United to win Southampton is a bit risky. Even if Manchester United get a draw against Southampton it's still don't make any much difference so the only thing that can impress their fans is if they win Southampton tomorrow.

I think this match is very unpredictable however, even though manchester united are the favorites based on the available odds, i would prefer not to bet at all for it, because based on their recent matches, it is very unfavorable to choose between these two. However, i think the odds for +0,75 for Southampton are very interesting for betting.

In my opinion, Southampton will get 1 point if winning is hard to get.
The Red Devils might appear different from the previous match but I'm not sure they can get full points even though Southampton also did not perform well in their last few matches.


Under 2.5 is not very convincing. If I may suggest, just take over, don't under this match, considering the two will try to score against each other.
If the winning results, especially have a high level of doubt.

You're right. Arsenal are really better than Tottenham for the past two seasons now arsenal usually dominating there matches together with them but both of them just have problems when it comes to winning a trophy they usually fail, and Tottenham and Arsenal they are really what to win the premier league because it is a long time that they achieved the title, and that made Harry Kabe leave the club because he need a trophy before he retired from football because he is already getting old and he will do anything possible to achieve it this season, because Bayern Munich are in good form and they are dominating the Bundesliga already Leverkusen as fail to do unbeaten this season again.

Arteta, one of the best coaches in the Premier League, has won many matches but struggles to win titles. This weekend's game against Tottenham will be tense, but Arsenal are the favorites to win. We can't predict what will happen, but Arteta must win the match if he hopes to win the Premier League. Manchester City has not lose any games and  they continue to win all there matches in the league and believe they will definitely defeat Brentford this weekend, because Manchester City are playing home and I don't think Brentford will get opportunities of drawing against Guadiola tomorrow.

The schedule for the opening match of the 4th week of the English league is played too early in my country, so it looks like I will miss the match because I am on my way home from work, but even so, I personally am more inclined to judge if the match will end in a draw or even if there was one team that won maybe only by a narrow score considering that both teams were not in good condition at this time, Manchester United were favored only based on the quality from the players they have but not with their current performance, from two consecutive defeats it was very clear that the game Manchester United is very confused so if there are no significant changes made by Ten Hag in the match later, it is very likely that Southampton will be very troublesome for Manchester United in the match, especially since so far we know Southampton as a team that often troubles big teams.

It's a fact, although I really see that Arsenal is much better than Tottenham, for me I see Arsenal this season as the PL will always be complicated, on one side is CITY on the other side is Liverpool and they are very complicated teams and I see them with a great potential, even greater, to be honest Arsenal always plays well against the big teams, but I don't know why they lose against some teams that are almost last, it's strange and I don't know what happens when they play against them, they suddenly lose their level in a short time, but then they recover, so there is not that consistency that is sought.

Tomorrow the opening game is going to be Southampton - Manchester United. What is your opinion on this game? Do you think the Red Devils will be able to end the losing streak of two games? 

Personally I wouldn't bet on them to win here.    Because they are unreliable, it's that simple. They can't score goals easily and they have conceded 5 goals in 3 games already. Maybe it will take them some more time to start defending much better witht their recent signings. Southampton also had a similar start. Normally I wouldn't bet on under 2.5 goals but maybe just for fun I might give it a try. Because both sides don't seem credible to score goals.

As you said that one of the best options is just BTTS. We as bettors will not care whether Arsenal will win or end up losing as long as we are not fans of the team. 
My prediction is Arsenal still has a small chance to win, but it all depends on Arteta who should have some strategies to prioritize points rather than losing points. I mean if Arsenal players are struggling to get 3 points, a draw should be better. 2-2 might be a good result.

Yes, that's right. What makes Man United not develop is because Erik Ten Hag doesn't want to be criticized, he is stubborn, he often doesn't want to accept criticism, even when his team loses he doesn't feel guilty, the blame is on his players. What Ronaldo expressed about his concerns so far, he wants the club that has raised him so far to become a club that develops and advances like the rivals who take turns dominating the Premier League. So with his sharp criticism so that everything changes for the better.

However, if you look further, what is happening to Man United right now is actually very complete, not only the Erik Ten Hag era that doesn't want to be criticized, but Man United's management is also anti-criticism. In the past, Van Gaal criticized that Man United is not a football club, Ibrahimovic also criticized that Man United should move on from the past and Jose Mourinho said that finishing in second place in the final standings at the end of the season was the best thing he had ever done with chaotic behind-the-scenes management.

So now if you want to change to be better, you have to start from within first. For now even if Erik Ten Hag is sacked, I am not sure Man United can change or become better if the current management has not changed.

From what i've seen that Ten Haag can't handle criticism. That's why he's terrible. No doubt that he never takes any accountability for his club.And watching him speak is so cringe.

How can we expect Manchester United players to be accountable for their performances? when their manager seems allergic to it? That's why they went from title contenders to being told just a top-4 finish and secure a UCL spot is alright. I'm sure Fergie never did it in the past.

So much delusional on Ten Hag. But i do like how he showed a very unrealistic approach in this interview.

Lol it is very unfortunate when a club as big as Manchester United has to obey a manager like Erik Ten Hag, let alone trusting his slow process, even though with almost 3 seasons, Erik Ten Hag should have been able to provide better improvements but as far as I can see Man United's performance is still the same and tends to decrease, the amount of money to recruit players also does not help the club at all. If the club is willing to accept all the risks, they must also be prepared if they end up finishing in the middle of the table on par with average clubs, even now Man United does not look like a top club because its quality is decreasing.

Manchester City is a great team in English Premier League especially in recent few seasons they are able to show good performance be it Premier League or Champions League or any other tournament. The most important thing is that this team has a quality manager who always takes the right decisions for the team. PSG is the best proof that a team's performance is not good only with financial support. At one time in PSG, Mbappé, Neymar, Messi and other world-class star players played together, but PSG could not do well, rather the condition of their dressing room has deteriorated. But there is no chance of anything like that happening in Manchester United because Pep Guardiwal is doing very well in this team. As long as this manager is in Manchester City, Manchester City will be in good condition but if this manager leaves the club, then there is no telling how the performance of the club will be.

In the first two matches we saw better performances from Arsenal. And we thought Arsenal got stronger this season. We saw the weakness of their attacking players last season. I thought the team was able to overcome this weakness in this season as well. But in the match against Brighton we once again saw the poor performance of Arsenal players as usual. Arsenal's overall gameplay in this match was slow and poor. And I would say that Arsenal will not dominate the Premier League if this kind of gameplay doesn't improve.

Arsenal's opponent in the next match is Tottenham. Beating Tottenham will not be a difficult task for Arsenal. Because this season, Tottenham's situation is also very shaky. Tottenham lost against Newcastle in the last match. So if Arsenal's performance is somewhat stable, they will be able to get 3 points from this match.

It's hard to predict the possible outcome of this match.

I meant the odds showed small gap between Arsenal and Totenham.



This means draw is also possible to happen.

I think Totenham will give Arsenal a fierce battle, and 1 point. It's an away game for Arsenal, and they are gonna play without some important midfielders. They're gonna miss Rice, Merino, and Odegaard. It's gonna make them face trouble beating Tottenham.

BTTS most likely to happen, but Arsenal has small probability to win the game. Though they're superior enough in term of squad, but missing so many key players gonna distract them a lot.

Ten Hags believe that with or without one player, they can do better with the rest of the squad. Ten Hag, in my opinion, underrated Cristiano Ronaldo on his second chance at the club, he believes that Cristiano cannot help them again at the age of 37, and while we cannot expect him to be like Cristiano from years ago, his presence at the club motivates his teammates, and the young players are happy to play on the same team as him. Since Ronaldo terminated his contract and left the club, Manchester United's players have weakened, Rashford and Antony are unable to perform at their best since they are no longer playing on the same team with one of the best players in the world and lack an experienced coach.

This is the only way Ten Hags can improve his squad since Ronaldo left the club. I don't like him as Manchester United coach because an experienced manager cannot allow Ronaldo to leave since his presence will encourage the rest of the players to perform at their best.

In fact, Manchester United has indeed experienced a gradual decline from season to season, what Ronaldo said is also not wrong because it is his opinion and thoughts, it just might sound like being cursed by a very extraordinary player in the world of football and he has disappointed. lol

If Ten Hag understands Ronaldo's playing style very well, Ronaldo in his second chance will definitely give much better, like how Zinédine Zidane treated Ronaldo and brought Real Madrid to the top with him.

The match is going to be an interesting and tough one, the two teams won’t want to lose, but from the squad depth of the two clubs, then I will say Arsenal is having a stronger squad, and they should be able to win the match. Arsenal's performance has dropped a little bit this season, they played draw against Brighton, which most people never expected. I just hope Tottenham will not surprise everyone in the match, but it’s going to be difficult for Tottenham to win Arsenal in the match, so my prediction is Arsenal to win.

It’s a disappointment and a surprise because no one expected a club like Brighton to draw Arsenal, the season is just starting, and Arsenal are not supposed to be losing points unnecessarily, their bloods are still fresh.

Are any of you considering betting on the four matches below this weekend?
In my opinion there are at least 4 matches that are quite easy to predict as to who will win, here is the list:

Southamton vs Manchester United
Liverpool vs Nottingham Forest
Manchester City vs Brentford
Brighton vs Ipswich

Those are at least 4 matches that we have a good chance of winning if we bet. The Fulham vs West Ham and Crystal Palace vs Leicester matches are a bit difficult to predict considering that the four teams were both not good in the first 3 matches this season.

Just like Arsenal lost points to Brighton,it  is the same way Tottenham also lost to Newcastle in their last match. The match is goin to be a fierce one because both teams will be playing at their best and will want to take advantage of every opportunity that comes in this match. Both team have this goal scoring capability, so I don’t expect few goals in this match but more than at least three goals.

Arsenal are above them in the league table after three matches but the gap and what differentiates them from one another is not that large and I expect them to be a strong contender on each other in this match. Let’s say, survival of the fittest. The league may have just started, but this early stages in the league are the best time for teams to accumulate as much point as they can especially when playing with big teams.

Erik ten Hag simply tells Ronaldo to mind his own business here.    Honestly I believe Ronaldo is completely right about criticizing Manchester United's condition for years. This team is too far away from their good old days.

Ronaldo is one of the legends for this team. When he came back there I got so happy. He really did his best and performed well also. But they treated him unfairly and he was right about leaving after that. Now the owners are different of course. With Erik ten Hag or not, I want to see some success. Probably it will be without him by the way. Because you all see what's going on. Can't one improve even a little?