I believe that Chelsea may not "start" great, but that's because they have bunch of young players who will get some time to get used to premier league. After a while I am sure that they are going to get better and we are going to see them do a lot better later on. This doesn't mean to say that they are going to win the league or something, we know that they won't, it just means that they can finish the season with more points than the last season and that's all they should aspire to do anyway.
I think it's quite clear that we are going to end up seeing them do fine, I think next year will be even better than this year because many of their players will be playing with each other for a while. It's hard to make moves when you are looking to get something for the team as good as they can do, and that's why it's a hard job. They are rebuilding and whenever a team is rebuilding it's a different situation for the team and I think it means that something will change.
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Manchester United are set to make almost ~25% of its workforce redundant
Staff were given the bombshell news that up to ~250 of the club's 1100 employees will be losing their jobs
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? Or maybe now we can see why they have actually decided to make a Collab with him. They need money really badly right now. I certainly don’t think that the situation is as bad as Barcelona for them. But the situation is definitely pretty bad. I bet they wish they could have the 95 million back that they actually paid for Antony. They started spending money like this from back in 2016 if I am not wrong. I think it all started with signing Paul Pogba. After that, a lot of players that they have brought in for huge amounts of money did not work. And now they are in such a position.
While you are talking about Chelsea recently I would like to add some to that as well. They are going to start the season with a really tough game against Manchester City. It is a home game but it doesn't matter much in such big games.
I still remember the last one at Stamford Bridge though. What a game resulting in 4-4...
Chelsea has quite much potential with talented youngsters. They need to be managed properly. Pochettino was just starting to do so actually but weirdly Boehly wanted to sack him. 
He was in a hurry for no reason while the team were improving. Managers need time, this is obvious. I hope not to see the same wrong move if Enzo Maresca also shows some good signs.
I still remember the last one at Stamford Bridge though. What a game resulting in 4-4...
Chelsea has quite much potential with talented youngsters. They need to be managed properly. Pochettino was just starting to do so actually but weirdly Boehly wanted to sack him. He was in a hurry for no reason while the team were improving. Managers need time, this is obvious. I hope not to see the same wrong move if Enzo Maresca also shows some good signs.It would be nice if this result was repeated and City lost points and I don’t think that’s an incredible scenario. Chelsea itself is a serious team, plus the first games of the season are always in less than optimal shape (you have to be a fool to prepare the team's peak shape for the start of the tournament), so the randomness of the result will be increased. Plus, maybe City will be under pressure because the investigation against them is ongoing and the players will not be sure of their future.
I'm wondering about the way Chelsea will start the new season. Chelsea is the team I'm a fan of in this league. However it has been really sad to see them in this condition for years. They have a lot of money now also but they are still lost. Enzo Maresca is a manager with not much experience. This is why I'm nervous about his first season.
Chelsea spend too much but they still get no good result. Additionally, maybe if Boehly gets a little more patient with managers they will get better results in time.
Some managers make an immediate effect and some need 2 or even 3 seasons to start doing good work. How successful do you expect Enzo Maresca to be?
I think the new Chelsea management has learn a lot within the space of three years since they took over from Abrahamovic; they will now understand that money is not everything you need, you also need to be patient and make the right decisions before making it big. Enzo Maresca is a manager with not much experience. This is why I'm nervous about his first season.Chelsea spend too much but they still get no good result. Additionally, maybe if Boehly gets a little more patient with managers they will get better results in time.
Some managers make an immediate effect and some need 2 or even 3 seasons to start doing good work. How successful do you expect Enzo Maresca to be?
I am very sure that the next coming season will be a bit better than the previous ones since they have change coach and the new head Foch Enzo Maresca is a good coach that have some partial Premier League experience and a coach that can cope within short period of time since he has learned somethings with Pep during his stay at Manchester City; but next season might not be their best season, but their performance will definitely improve.
I'm wondering about the way Chelsea will start the new season. Chelsea is the team I'm a fan of in this league. However it has been really sad to see them in this condition for years. They have a lot of money now also but they are still lost. Enzo Maresca is a manager with not much experience. This is why I'm nervous about his first season.
Chelsea spend too much but they still get no good result. Additionally, maybe if Boehly gets a little more patient with managers they will get better results in time.
Some managers make an immediate effect and some need 2 or even 3 seasons to start doing good work. How successful do you expect Enzo Maresca to be?
Arteta went into top tier management after being assistant to pep Guardiola. Enzo Maresca went into management at champoinship division and immediately adapted so fast and gain promotion at his first attempt. So when you are talking about experience I think the man is well experienced in the premier league to know the demands of the league. Mauricio pochettino who was an experienced manager and has managed top clubs still struggled at Chelsea because the owners were interfering too much. Chelsea problem is not about managers as they are always getting the best managers out there apart from lampard. The owners should give the managers the chance to request for players they should buy for them. The owners shouldn't be buying whatever he sees in the market and expect the manager to make due with it. This will definitely make the club suffer. But if it's about experience that you are scared of, you don't have to worry Enzo Maresca is well equipped for the job. Enzo Maresca is a manager with not much experience. This is why I'm nervous about his first season.Chelsea spend too much but they still get no good result. Additionally, maybe if Boehly gets a little more patient with managers they will get better results in time.
Some managers make an immediate effect and some need 2 or even 3 seasons to start doing good work. How successful do you expect Enzo Maresca to be?
While you are talking about Chelsea recently I would like to add some to that as well. They are going to start the season with a really tough game against Manchester City. It is a home game but it doesn't matter much in such big games.
I still remember the last one at Stamford Bridge though. What a game resulting in 4-4... Chelsea has quite much potential with talented youngsters. They need to be managed properly. Pochettino was just starting to do so actually but weirdly Boehly wanted to sack him. He was in a hurry for no reason while the team were improving. Managers need time, this is obvious. I hope not to see the same wrong move if Enzo Maresca also shows some good signs.
I still remember the last one at Stamford Bridge though. What a game resulting in 4-4...
Chelsea has quite much potential with talented youngsters. They need to be managed properly. Pochettino was just starting to do so actually but weirdly Boehly wanted to sack him. He was in a hurry for no reason while the team were improving. Managers need time, this is obvious. I hope not to see the same wrong move if Enzo Maresca also shows some good signs.Indeed, although Chelsea are not so good but Pochettino also managed to make Chelsea get results that at least did not disappoint when playing against other top teams. But indeed, Pochettino basically looked like he didn't have the potential to be good in the first half of the season last season, but slowly in fact Pochettino also managed to improve Chelsea's performance little by little. With these results, then I think it is still quite feasible for Chelsea to keep Pochettino but yes, what can be made because the reality is that Pochettino was also fired because Chelsea could not go through a long process to be successful. About the match against Manchester City later, I think whatever the result can happen, because at the beginning of the season they will only try their best efforts.
I'm wondering about the way Chelsea will start the new season. Chelsea is the team I'm a fan of in this league. However it has been really sad to see them in this condition for years. They have a lot of money now also but they are still lost. Enzo Maresca is a manager with not much experience. This is why I'm nervous about his first season.
Chelsea spend too much but they still get no good result. Additionally, maybe if Boehly gets a little more patient with managers they will get better results in time.
Some managers make an immediate effect and some need 2 or even 3 seasons to start doing good work. How successful do you expect Enzo Maresca to be?
As long as you don't demand a new manager to win any titles, then Chelsea will play without much pressure. The problem that new managers often face is the big demands from management and fans, this makes them stressed and they never feel comfortable when going to a match. A team like Chelsea is in a continuous transition process, of course they need time and hard work until their good performance makes you all happy and excited. Enzo Maresca is a manager with not much experience. This is why I'm nervous about his first season.Chelsea spend too much but they still get no good result. Additionally, maybe if Boehly gets a little more patient with managers they will get better results in time.
Some managers make an immediate effect and some need 2 or even 3 seasons to start doing good work. How successful do you expect Enzo Maresca to be?
Enzo Maresca is a new coach, he needs adaptation and time to introduce his strategies to his players. Chelsea's progress in the Premier League is not very predictable, but you can probably hope that Enzo Maresca can bring many positive changes to the team's overall performance.
Actually I just don`t want to bother about Chelsea performance next season, much expectation brings much disappointment and this something we Chelsea fans have suffered for some seasons now. Let just see how it goes, if the players they are buying will actually do great or just be another flop since we have expensive players who are still underperforming, let see how these one goals though my biggest is the lack of experience players in the squad and I hope the medical team might be improved to avoid frequent injuries woes we have been experiencing.
Of course, all teams have different ways of building a squad to be ready to compete in the race for the title so far, we have known Chelsea as a team that does not hesitate to spend a lot of money to recruit star players but previously they failed to compete, however currently we see many changes occurring in their team philosophy which are actually trying to build a young squad that will be projected in the long term, Chelsea, who are gathering a lot of young players, should actually have patience in seeing their team develop in the future and of course Todd Boehly must provide sufficient time for the coaches to form a strong team. Seeing what is happening with Chelsea at the moment, of course we can use Madrid as a reference as an example of a team that has built a young squad to be able to become champions so far, so I think if Chelsea want to develop of course they have to follow the method done by Madrid, but of course they It may require a long process to do this, so Todd Boehly doesn't need to hope for Chelsea success in the near future, so if he believes in the process, of course he will ultimately get maximum results in future like as is happening with Arsenal at the moment.
While you are talking about Chelsea recently I would like to add some to that as well. They are going to start the season with a really tough game against Manchester City. It is a home game but it doesn't matter much in such big games.
I still remember the last one at Stamford Bridge though. What a game resulting in 4-4... Chelsea has quite much potential with talented youngsters. They need to be managed properly. Pochettino was just starting to do so actually but weirdly Boehly wanted to sack him. He was in a hurry for no reason while the team were improving. Managers need time, this is obvious. I hope not to see the same wrong move if Enzo Maresca also shows some good signs.
I still remember the last one at Stamford Bridge though. What a game resulting in 4-4...
Chelsea has quite much potential with talented youngsters. They need to be managed properly. Pochettino was just starting to do so actually but weirdly Boehly wanted to sack him. He was in a hurry for no reason while the team were improving. Managers need time, this is obvious. I hope not to see the same wrong move if Enzo Maresca also shows some good signs. 
I'm wondering about the way Chelsea will start the new season. Chelsea is the team I'm a fan of in this league. However it has been really sad to see them in this condition for years. They have a lot of money now also but they are still lost. Enzo Maresca is a manager with not much experience. This is why I'm nervous about his first season.
Chelsea spend too much but they still get no good result. Additionally, maybe if Boehly gets a little more patient with managers they will get better results in time.
Some managers make an immediate effect and some need 2 or even 3 seasons to start doing good work. How successful do you expect Enzo Maresca to be?
Enzo Maresca is a manager with not much experience. This is why I'm nervous about his first season.Chelsea spend too much but they still get no good result. Additionally, maybe if Boehly gets a little more patient with managers they will get better results in time.
Some managers make an immediate effect and some need 2 or even 3 seasons to start doing good work. How successful do you expect Enzo Maresca to be?
Frankly, I wouldn't worry about it too much. You shouldn't either. You should just wait till the first few games of the season to begin taking notes or just wait for the preseason even though it won't give any concrete evaluation. Liverpool is in a similar situation with Arne slot. As much as I'd love to speculate about what his performance might be, I won't be doing that. Imo, a more better way to approach it is to set the bar very low so you won't be disappointed any more than you expect if the performances fail to meet your expectations.
There are also rumors that Manchester City may leave the current manager, Pep Guardiola.
Manchester United may have wanted to take this opportunity and that's why Red Devil club management offered this manager to take charge of Manchester United.
Pep Guardiola is a genius manager who likes challenges. I remember when he first went to City and at that time City was not a top team like it is now. But Pep managed to give City the EPL title for four consecutive seasons. I think if Pep is a manager who likes challenges then there is a chance he will leave City next season to look for a new challenge. He could coach Manchester United and I've heard rumors that some of the United board members have tried to communicate with Pep. But I see the possibility that Pep will choose to leave the English league and look for a challenge in another league.Manchester United may have wanted to take this opportunity and that's why Red Devil club management offered this manager to take charge of Manchester United.
Although it is possible for Pep Guardiola to leave Manchester City, but it does not mean that Pep Guardiola will become Manchester United manager. I sure that will not happen, no matter about Manchester United efforts to recruit Pep Guardiola because basically Pep Guardiola will not leave and join a rival team, I'm sure of it. After all, throughout Pep Guardiola's coaching career also at least Pep Guardiola has only been a coach for one team in a different league. Therefore,if Pep Guardiola leaves Manchester City, it is very likely that Pep Guardiola will coach a team in a different league or maybe coach the national team. But the point is, I believe Manchester United will not succeed in bringing Pep Guardiola although indeed, Manchester United has the money to pay Pep Guardiola but this case is no longer about money.
Meanwhile, I still see the rumor about Pep leaving Manchester City as false news. There are more to be won in the EPL and UCL what is the point of leaving now he has a very strong team and players who respect his management ability?
I'm wondering about the way Chelsea will start the new season. Chelsea is the team I'm a fan of in this league. However it has been really sad to see them in this condition for years. They have a lot of money now also but they are still lost. Enzo Maresca is a manager with not much experience. This is why I'm nervous about his first season.
Chelsea spend too much but they still get no good result. Additionally, maybe if Boehly gets a little more patient with managers they will get better results in time.
Some managers make an immediate effect and some need 2 or even 3 seasons to start doing good work. How successful do you expect Enzo Maresca to be?
I think the new Chelsea management has learn a lot within the space of three years since they took over from Abrahamovic; they will now understand that money is not everything you need, you also need to be patient and make the right decisions before making it big. Enzo Maresca is a manager with not much experience. This is why I'm nervous about his first season.Chelsea spend too much but they still get no good result. Additionally, maybe if Boehly gets a little more patient with managers they will get better results in time.
Some managers make an immediate effect and some need 2 or even 3 seasons to start doing good work. How successful do you expect Enzo Maresca to be?
I am very sure that the next coming season will be a bit better than the previous ones since they have change coach and the new head Foch Enzo Maresca is a good coach that have some partial Premier League experience and a coach that can cope within short period of time since he has learned somethings with Pep during his stay at Manchester City; but next season might not be their best season, but their performance will definitely improve.
Chelsea spend too much but they still get no good result. Additionally, maybe if Boehly gets a little more patient with managers they will get better results in time.
That's because they spend wrongly. They're not strategic in the way they sign players. Almost every week Chelsea signs a new player. With money like that they should be able to assemble a very good squad. These things are not just done anyhow, you have to be strategic about them. When Boehly took over Chelsea did not qualify for the next year's champions league, so they must have known that they won't be able to get stars because every big player wants to play in the champions League. What they should have done is get players good enough to make them qualify for the champions league. Even if they don't get players that'll make them compete for the league, but they should be able to get them to 3rd or 5th position. This way they can get stars the next season.
Building a team takes time and tactics, but I don't think Chelsea have any plans at all. They signed Guiu from Barcelona last week, they've signed another player from Leicester this week. All these are player with potential but they're not great players at the moment and most of them won't turn out great. The fans may feel they're planning for the future, but they'll regret making these decisions in the future.
I'm wondering about the way Chelsea will start the new season. Chelsea is the team I'm a fan of in this league. However it has been really sad to see them in this condition for years. They have a lot of money now also but they are still lost. Enzo Maresca is a manager with not much experience. This is why I'm nervous about his first season.
Chelsea spend too much but they still get no good result. Additionally, maybe if Boehly gets a little more patient with managers they will get better results in time.
Some managers make an immediate effect and some need 2 or even 3 seasons to start doing good work. How successful do you expect Enzo Maresca to be?
As usual, I do not have high expectation for Chelsea Football club in this new season we are about to enter. This is because there is no significant difference between the Chelsea of last season and the Chelsea we are seeing now. In fact the Chelsea of last season, especially during the end of the season is more formidable than the Chelsea we see now because they had an old coach with them. Enzo Maresca is a manager with not much experience. This is why I'm nervous about his first season.Chelsea spend too much but they still get no good result. Additionally, maybe if Boehly gets a little more patient with managers they will get better results in time.
Some managers make an immediate effect and some need 2 or even 3 seasons to start doing good work. How successful do you expect Enzo Maresca to be?
Now Chelsea is not only going to struggle to play good football with the available players, they will also struggle to make new players adapt to their playing style and then the coach will struggle to understand the players as well as the players struggling to understand the coach. It is just a circle that has just begun and Chelsea management and including their fans should be patient and wait for the minimum of 3 years to rebuild the team.
I'm wondering about the way Chelsea will start the new season. Chelsea is the team I'm a fan of in this league. However it has been really sad to see them in this condition for years. They have a lot of money now also but they are still lost. Enzo Maresca is a manager with not much experience. This is why I'm nervous about his first season.
Chelsea spend too much but they still get no good result. Additionally, maybe if Boehly gets a little more patient with managers they will get better results in time.
Some managers make an immediate effect and some need 2 or even 3 seasons to start doing good work. How successful do you expect Enzo Maresca to be?
Indeed, since Chelsea changed owners, their performance has become worse and unstable, as if they have lost their playing philosophy. In the Boehly era, coaches changed, but their performance still did not improve, they even bought young players with potential, but the results were still unsatisfactory, which led to the dismissal of coach Pochettino. I also think the same as you, Chelsea's current instability is caused by Boehly not wanting to be patient with one coach even though we know that building team strength takes time. Enzo Maresca is a manager with not much experience. This is why I'm nervous about his first season.Chelsea spend too much but they still get no good result. Additionally, maybe if Boehly gets a little more patient with managers they will get better results in time.
Some managers make an immediate effect and some need 2 or even 3 seasons to start doing good work. How successful do you expect Enzo Maresca to be?
Now Chelsea has a new coach, Enzo Maresca. Even though Chelsea's decision to fire Pochettino was too hasty, I believe Enzo Maresca is the right choice. It's true that he doesn't have much experience, but he is believed to be able to bring Chelsea back to competing in the EPL league. The reason is that Enzo will be the coach that Chelsea dreams of after successfully bringing Leicester City promotion to the EPL, and make no mistake, currently there is a trend of recruiting coaches with minimal experience to train big teams, maybe they will take an example like Xabi Alanso. at Leverkusen who has little experience but could make a difference. Leverksuen is also like that.
I'm wondering about the way Chelsea will start the new season. Chelsea is the team I'm a fan of in this league. However it has been really sad to see them in this condition for years. They have a lot of money now also but they are still lost. Enzo Maresca is a manager with not much experience. This is why I'm nervous about his first season.
Chelsea spend too much but they still get no good result. Additionally, maybe if Boehly gets a little more patient with managers they will get better results in time.
Some managers make an immediate effect and some need 2 or even 3 seasons to start doing good work. How successful do you expect Enzo Maresca to be?
Actually I just don`t want to bother about Chelsea performance next season, much expectation brings much disappointment and this something we Chelsea fans have suffered for some seasons now. Let just see how it goes, if the players they are buying will actually do great or just be another flop since we have expensive players who are still underperforming, let see how these one goals though my biggest is the lack of experience players in the squad and I hope the medical team might be improved to avoid frequent injuries woes we have been experiencing. Enzo Maresca is a manager with not much experience. This is why I'm nervous about his first season.Chelsea spend too much but they still get no good result. Additionally, maybe if Boehly gets a little more patient with managers they will get better results in time.
Some managers make an immediate effect and some need 2 or even 3 seasons to start doing good work. How successful do you expect Enzo Maresca to be?
Manchester United is famous as a club that often makes star players their main transfer targets, so they often let young talents go to other teams, currently there are several young players in the Manchester United squad, so it seems that they are starting to try to develop young talent in the team, many English league clubs seem now to be starting to trust young squads to fill their squad to compete next season, Chelsea have been the most visible this season in trying to build their squad full of young players, so I think, Manchester United should also be able to follow Chelsea lead in order to build a squad that does have long-term prospects later.
Manchester United has often sold their young players, but in the last two seasons it seems that they are trying to start trusting academy players to get into the first squad, in addition to the players you mentioned, actually Manchester United has a lot of talented young players in their squad at the moment such as Greenwood, Omari Forson, Brandon Williams and also Hannibal Mejbri, so I think if they can be retained and given the opportunity to continue to develop in the main squad, of course, Manchester United no longer needs to spend a lot of money to recruit other players in the future.
United not only raises their own stars, but could find stars around the world and pay them good money to attract talent. The problem that they have right now is that they are spending way too much money on the ones who are not like that at all. If you buy a 22 year old winger for 90 million euro and that player turns out good, that's great. But if you spend that on Antony, well then you know what you are getting, which is what they had and not just with one transfer but they did this with multiple transfers as well.Manchester United has often sold their young players, but in the last two seasons it seems that they are trying to start trusting academy players to get into the first squad, in addition to the players you mentioned, actually Manchester United has a lot of talented young players in their squad at the moment such as Greenwood, Omari Forson, Brandon Williams and also Hannibal Mejbri, so I think if they can be retained and given the opportunity to continue to develop in the main squad, of course, Manchester United no longer needs to spend a lot of money to recruit other players in the future.
This is why I believe that they should be looking into players that they are buying into a lot more carefully. They may not find a buyer for 50-60 million range for Antony now, if they stop making these big losses and instead get some good players with the amount of money they have, they could actually build a team that will be consistently in top four and even fight for a title chance. They certainly have the money to do that, they just need to spend it wisely.
There are also rumors that Manchester City may leave the current manager, Pep Guardiola.
Manchester United may have wanted to take this opportunity and that's why Red Devil club management offered this manager to take charge of Manchester United.
Pep Guardiola is a genius manager who likes challenges. I remember when he first went to City and at that time City was not a top team like it is now. But Pep managed to give City the EPL title for four consecutive seasons. I think if Pep is a manager who likes challenges then there is a chance he will leave City next season to look for a new challenge. He could coach Manchester United and I've heard rumors that some of the United board members have tried to communicate with Pep. But I see the possibility that Pep will choose to leave the English league and look for a challenge in another league.Manchester United may have wanted to take this opportunity and that's why Red Devil club management offered this manager to take charge of Manchester United.
Although it is possible for Pep Guardiola to leave Manchester City, but it does not mean that Pep Guardiola will become Manchester United manager. I sure that will not happen, no matter about Manchester United efforts to recruit Pep Guardiola because basically Pep Guardiola will not leave and join a rival team, I'm sure of it. After all, throughout Pep Guardiola's coaching career also at least Pep Guardiola has only been a coach for one team in a different league. Therefore,if Pep Guardiola leaves Manchester City, it is very likely that Pep Guardiola will coach a team in a different league or maybe coach the national team. But the point is, I believe Manchester United will not succeed in bringing Pep Guardiola although indeed, Manchester United has the money to pay Pep Guardiola but this case is no longer about money.
I'm wondering about the way Chelsea will start the new season. Chelsea is the team I'm a fan of in this league. However it has been really sad to see them in this condition for years. They have a lot of money now also but they are still lost. Enzo Maresca is a manager with not much experience. This is why I'm nervous about his first season.
Chelsea spend too much but they still get no good result. Additionally, maybe if Boehly gets a little more patient with managers they will get better results in time.
Some managers make an immediate effect and some need 2 or even 3 seasons to start doing good work. How successful do you expect Enzo Maresca to be?
Enzo Maresca is a manager with not much experience. This is why I'm nervous about his first season.Chelsea spend too much but they still get no good result. Additionally, maybe if Boehly gets a little more patient with managers they will get better results in time.
Some managers make an immediate effect and some need 2 or even 3 seasons to start doing good work. How successful do you expect Enzo Maresca to be?
There are also rumors that Manchester City may leave the current manager, Pep Guardiola.
Manchester United may have wanted to take this opportunity and that's why Red Devil club management offered this manager to take charge of Manchester United.
Pep Guardiola is a genius manager who likes challenges. I remember when he first went to City and at that time City was not a top team like it is now. But Pep managed to give City the EPL title for four consecutive seasons. I think if Pep is a manager who likes challenges then there is a chance he will leave City next season to look for a new challenge. He could coach Manchester United and I've heard rumors that some of the United board members have tried to communicate with Pep. But I see the possibility that Pep will choose to leave the English league and look for a challenge in another league. Manchester United may have wanted to take this opportunity and that's why Red Devil club management offered this manager to take charge of Manchester United.
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