Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 187. (Read 59155 times)

Arsenal bottled the Premier League trophy after losing two games in a row against Aston Villa and West Ham. This is the biggest mistake by arsenal so far. I meant that the main issue is with the gunners' mentality. People are unaware that Arsenal has been doing this garbage for almost two decades. It keeps continues till now.
I am not inclined to see Arsenal as a title contender this season. For the past two decades, the team has not been strong enough to win a single Premier League trophy, this is the fact. It provides nuance if PL likes a farmer league. It's because Manchester City was continually winning the trophy, but they deserved it because they have great performances.  
This season, they have performed flawlessly. This is also improving the situation for the city, as Pep has set a new record that no one has ever reached even fergie was not able reaching what pep has done on city. City has now surpassed Manchester United.
Arsenal will only be capable of competing with City, and it is unlikely that Arsenal will win the title next season. MU is considerably superior to Arsenal, notwithstanding the latter's current dismal performance.

I expect four clubs to compete for the title soon, i have removed arsenal coz this club has bottled pl trophy for two decades.

1. City
2. Chelsea.
3. Liverpool.
4. United

It saddens me that a Premier League club missed out on a chance to finish fifth in the UCL. They were performing so poorly. I was hoping we would be seeing PL to get additional slot but it was not happening.

I really didn't like what I saw from Liverpool last season. They gave up on the Premier League title so early. I wouldn't expect to see that in Klopp's goodbye season at least. 

Now they are facing the danger of losing skilled players this summer and they have a new manager at the same time. It is like a fresh start after all those seasons with Klopp. I'm really curious about what kind of Liverpool we will see. I hope to see them back in the title race but for now I don't have any reason to trust Arne Slot for that. He will need to prove himself here first and it might even take some quite much time.

Even Klopp wasn't amazing in his first times. 

But looking at the actual experience Emery has always been able to ease the situation into an advantage even though it comes from a difficult situation because even though for now Emery is not too flashy in terms of achievement but he is an experienced coach even before in La Liga he has brought Villarreal to get the Europa Leageu trophy and the Champions League semi-finals.

So for now I don't think there will be too much of a problem with their performance next season because even though they might not survive in the Champions League when compared to some other clubs in the EPL but I think Aston Villa will still be very troublesome next season.

Emery sometimes doesn't really need one player who stands out in the squad but they can always play very well for teamwork and this is what always stands out and has always been shown by Emery in his leadership at several clubs he has coached including for Aston.

Of course Arteta doesn't want to fail for the third time in a row in the competition for the EPL title with Manchester City, his failure this season was because Arsenal failed to get full points at the Emirates stadium when facing Aston Villa. The mistakes made by the team will be anticipated next season by adding to the team's strength, the arrival of new players with quality will have a positive impact on Arsenal. Arsenal young players are starting to improve in performance, Arteta needs to hone them so they have a winning mentality so they are better prepared for the title race.

Overall, Arteta has succeeded in maintaining Arsenal's performance in the last two years, they have succeeded in forcing Manchester City to always maintain their performance until the last game. Arsenal will try to do their best in the EPL and UCL, Arteta experience in handling team in big matches will make Arsenal a team to be reckoned with in the UCL.

In the last season, even though Arsenal still divided their focus to other competitions, but in reality Arsenal also almost won the Premier League trophy. But unfortunately, Arsenal was unlucky because Arsenal had played one more match than Manchester City and thus, Arsenal failed to get the trophy. Although it is clear, basically Arsenal was able and successful in maintaining its top position after successfully overtaking Liverpool. But unfortunately, Arsenal still failed even though in fact Arsenal also managed not to lose when Arsenal played against teams in the top zone of the standings last season. Therefore, even though Arsenal is still dividing its focus on next season, I believe Arsenal is still capable of being a team that is in the race for the title next season.

Emery is a wonderful coach. Wherever he goes he brings success to that team. Aston Villa is no different either indeed. Finishing in top 4 in the Premier League is never an easy job. Even some bigger teams failed this season. 

By the way is it true that Emery's contract expires by 2029?    If it is then I believe it is just insane. This must be the longest manager contract I have ever seen. There is guarantee for him to stay that long but still you get my point.


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To tell the truth, it is a great joy for me to watch him manage Aston Villa. I hope he stays there for long years. 

Arsenal could get good results in the coming season, even in my mind I thought that Arsenal in the last 2 seasons would be very close or almost get the PL title, but with Arsenal's experience it could provide a strong impetus for Arteta to succeed in getting the title PL in the coming season.
Talking about the players that Arsenal have, they are actually very good and for me they have players who are quite consistent, they just need young players to increase their performance so that Arsenal can have a bigger chance of winning the title.

Actually, I am not an Arsenal fan and I am only a Manchester City fan, but I also support Arsenal to continue to learn from experience so that they have a stronger performance to put pressure on Manchester City, even though it is very impossible, but at least seeing the two clubs competing for the PL title will be very interesting.

20 years without a Premier League title of course it is a bitter experience that befell their fans, Arsenal is one of the big teams that has been successful for a long time but after they got the last Premier League trophy undefeated, it actually made their performance every season continue to decline and continue to fail to win the championship trophy so far, even since the bad phase of Arsenal started, of course they are often referred to as a team that does not have a champion mentality,  In the last two seasons, of course, we have seen Arsenal start to rise in form and also their mentality as one of the title contenders, but they have not been able to maintain consistency when the final match of the season is played.

Arteta should start trying to improve the mentality and also the focus of the players to be able to achieve what they have been difficult to achieve, I think it is very important for Arteta to bring experienced players who do have a high mentality and fighting power like Declan Rice to squad, so that indirectly of course will improve performance,  mentality and of course a higher fighting power of their squad next season.

To be honest, at the start of the season I didn't think Arsenal were very strong. Because there were fewer star players in Arsenal's squad than Liverpool or City. However, Arteta has proved his mettle. With the help of Arteta, Arsenal performed very well this season and continued to fight for the title until the last match of the season. Arteta will surely strengthen his squad next season, and continue to fight for the title.

Arsenal need some young players in their squad. Arsenal have no viable replacements. So when a player faces an injury, Arsenal's performance slows down a bit. So Arteta will definitely need to add some talented players to his squad this season.

Lol. Keep focusing on the Premier League as the main target and downplay other competitions.? Obviously that is not a solution for a team like Arsenal which already has a mature squad. The goal of every team taking part in the competition is to win the title, Arsenal also really wants to achieve success in the Champions League. Arsenal just need to appear consistently in the Premier League, this season they are able to provide fierce competition to Manchester City which means the title race must be completed until the last match. Arsenal has quality, the depth of their squad cannot be underestimated by any team. They could surprise with the young squad that Arteta has, if they can concentrate more on each match, maybe Arsenal will be among the top teams in every competition they play.

Unai Emery has of course brought Aston Villa in a positive direction, since being coached by Unay Emery, Aston Villa has been able to become a very troublesome team in the Premier League this season and even Arsenal's failure to win the Premier League this season of course began with Aston Villa ability to beat Arsenal in the match towards the end of the season, the defeat to Aston Villa certainly made Arsenal have to lose their chance to win the Premier League trophy this season,  Aston Villa is of course a surprise team this season that is able to compete closely with Arsenal, Manchester and also Liverpool in the top tier of the Premier League, the consistency, mentality and also the game scheme applied by Unai Emery so far have made Aston Villa successfully end the season in the Champions League zone.

This season, of course, we cannot deny that Aston Villa is an extraordinary team and this is the basis for Aston Villa management to give a new contract to Unai Emery, next season we all hope that Aston Villa will be able to continue to compete with the top teams, so that of course it will give us an interesting spectacle,  But currently I am reading some issues that say that Aston Villa will sell some of its mainstay players to make their financial stability, so if it is true  happen of course we will see a difficult situation at Aston Villa next season.

If Aston Villa dreamt of winning the title last season, I will call that being greedy, so I love the fact that they settled for what was possible then and see what the future holds for them. I can say that they are a work in progress and from this season's champions league, they will be exposed to the real European competition and that have a great way of making them stronger and better. Last season could be used as a test, and they passed so well as they were able to displace some of the big names you mentioned to secure a position at the champions league.

However, what I find disappointing was their conference league performance which they lost woefully to Olympiakos that later won the trophy. I expected they would be able to scale through to the final and hopefully win that league. I know they would have learnt some lessons from that outing to be better next season.

That's just it, they should just focus on the English premier League as there main targets and stop diverting there attention to other leagues, though I'm impressed with there performance this season even if they did not win the premier League but they mount serious pressure on Manchester City before they manage to win the premier league, so since they no that they are not the right candidate for the champions League trophy they should concentrate more on the premier league they have the performance to win.

Aston Villa's performance is better than Chelsea, Manchester United and Newcastle as a club that played in the Champions League last season. This club will not participate in the Champions League competition next season because the three clubs did not end up in the Champions League zone, Aston Villa is not the only representative club The Premier League which has qualified for next season will have fierce competition in the Champions League with other top clubs and Aston Villa must show its best performance so as not to be left behind by other clubs competing in the Champions League. I think Aston Villa will be the underdog club in the Premier League in the competition Champions League next season.

Even so, we really need to appreciate the efforts that the coach has made in building Aston Villa's performance so far. Indeed, this club is not included in the ranks of the top clubs in the league, but because this club is able to compete strongly in the Premier League and qualify for the Champions League next season, the club from other leagues also need to be alert, and Aston Villa must also improve its defensive system so that it is not like Manchester United last season where this club conceded a lot and made a lot of mistakes, so they did not qualify the Champions League from group phase

Atleast they were far more better than Chelsea and Manchester United, I appreciate their efforts. Aston Villa fully understood that they can't win the title or end the season as a runner up, so instead they maintained their 4th position on the table just to qualify for the Champions league. The team should try to improve, it is not just all about qualifying for the Champions league, are they competent enough to compete in the league because it will be very tough as most Champions from other leagues will us be competing, just as you said about their defence line, they should kick off enhancing it, I really want to see them do better coming season.

Unai Emery has done a fantastic job at Aston Villa but you have to question, is it sustainable? Maybe they will suffer with the pressure of CL games. Their squad maybe isn’t that strong so with the extra games against high quality opposition maybe they get fatigued and injuries come.

It’ll be really interesting to follow, I hope they continue to do well but we will see.

They did well no arguments with that, but this is what happens whenever you have a week in week out performance in the Premier League Competition all alone. They remind me of Chelsea under Antonio Conte but these Aston Villa side didn't raise the bar very high same way Chelsea did that season.

Unai Emery also had experience in the Premier League Competition from his time before with Arsenal football club.


They do. For the past two seasons I did supported at least to see them rise up bit challenges, minor challenges I will say put down them hopes and performance in the most important moments when they needed to win. The lose against Aston Villa was hurting to see. I can recall every moment vividly.

yep, I fully support your opinion regarding the badness of Arsenal who always fail to understand previous mistakes but there is a slight difference from my opinion.
you say that Arsenal always looks bad at the end of the season but looks strong at the start of the season, but in my opinion the opposite is true, Arsenal looks strong at the start of the season but in the second half of the season when they have a busy schedule in the UCL, Arsenal always fails to maintain consistency as a team that has to lose several points after focusing on the UCL, while teams that deserve the EPL title are usually always successful in rotating players to maintain the stability of the team's performance which can focus on both competitions to keep getting points domestically and also get wins in UCL matches.
just look at how in the past few seasons when Arsenal looked strong at the start of the season but in the second half of the season they always lost points more often and other teams managed to take advantage of Arsenal instability to gain more points like Man City did.
and what's even funnier is that when Arsenal finished failing in the UCL and returned to focusing on the EPL, the match schedule was approaching the end of the season and appeared more consistent in getting points in every match but the results were in vain because they were already far behind in points.

as you said, if Arsenal really need a change in their title pursuit strategy, that should be prioritized and from my opinion, if they really want to get the EPL title, they should try to prioritize matches in the EPL and consider the UCL as a second match that doesn't need to be prioritized.
and this kind of method can make Arsenal closer to winning the EPL title and if Arsenal succeeds in getting the EPL title, the mentality of the Arsenal players will definitely become more confident.

I recommend that you start by understanding it correctly. Legal action differs from voting. It's a personal clash between Manchester City and Aston Villa against the Premier League as a party who already sued by city and villa. It is quite different in the voting instance. Voting is meaningless here. The outcome of legal action will be determined by the court.
The outcome of the vote will have no bearing on the court decision. This is why huge changes may occur once City and Aston Villa win their legal action against the Premier League. The English Premier League's PSR rules may undergo significant changes. It will also give impact to the another rule as well.

The better for Arsenal to concentrate on how to develop the mindset and mentality in order to win the PL trophy. Arsenal's failure to win the Premier League lasted longer than 20 seasons. It's been happening for two decades. People were simply calculating Arsenal's failures in the last two seasons, without even considering how Arsenal had failed to win for so long. Arsenal must try to take a look at what's the biggest mistake from the club. The poor performance by arsenal at the late game is one of most disturbing.

Arsenal do not deserve to win the trophy as much as Manchester City. Arsenal deserves to be trophyless. The league's greatest players must be awarded a trophy. That is Manchester City. Arsenal never learns from its errors. How could they possibly deserve to win the Premier League trophy? They never learn from the past. Arsenal is only powerful in the early season and very poor in the late season.