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Given we have a break in league games for the international games and there are no games to discuss this weekend, I'll ask a different question: do you guys see any potential dark horse this season, i.e. a team that people do not expect too much from, but can turn up surprising everyone e.g. by ending up in the top 4 etc?
Could Brighton be such team? So far, they recorded an easy win over Everton, a win against Man United and scored a point against Arsenal in an away game, which currently places them in the 3rd place. They also crushed Crawley Town (a League One team) 4-0 in an EFL Cup game.
Their manager, Fabian Hurzeler, got nominated for the Manager of the Month award.
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I must have talked about Everton's condition before. They have started terrible and they are a candidate to relegate from the Premier League with this performance. And next time, they are playing away against Aston Villa...
This is quite early to say this from the fact that their last three opponents were Tottenham, Brighton, Bournemouth, while the match against Bournemouth was a disappointment from the fact that they lost a 2 goals lead at almost match ending to 3 goals to 2, in the space of nine minutes though I think this is not the first time Everton as lost a game they were having huge lead at almost match ending.

I see another loss on the horizon.  Tongue  Aston Villa would absolutely defeat them while there is such a huge power gap. Emery's team are still really strong despite losing some important players. Because they didn't just stay silent with signings at the same time.

Amadou Onana, Ian Maatsen and Jaden Philogene are the ones that come to my mind right now. I would like to see Aston Villa in top 4 race once again. They are already competing in the Champions League this season.  Smiley
It will be shocking seeing Everton winning or drawing this game to be frank.  Also I think Aston Villa how among the team favourites for top 4 even above Manchester United from the fact that there have been a constant improvement from the team as every seasons goes by since Unai Emery took charge and also from the quality of players they signed recently, it is expected from them to make top 4 for me.
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It is good to hear Palmer isn't going to be a part of the Conference League main stage. It isn't the Champions League in the end. Why would you risk your best player by far, right?  Smiley
Why will Enzo think about using the conference league when he has the main league to play? Palmer is one of the key players that Chelsea are having, and if anything can happen to him, then it’s going to be a very bad season for Chelsea, because I don’t know how they will perform in matches without Palmer. Chelsea shouldn’t even try to overuse Palmer, he should be used in necessary matches and not in the in the conference league.

He has already started with 1 goal and 4 assists in 3 matches. He is a magician.  Grin  But it is sad to see Chelsea still being consistent while he is trying his best. It would just make things easier for Palmer to leave earlier for trophies.
Palmer is a player that has been performing well for Chelsea since he joined, and his effort made Chelsea end the season at the position where they ended last season. Lots of people were thinking Palmer's performance would drop this season, but the season has just started, and he is already performing well in matches that have been played, so palmers shouldn’t be misused by Chelsea.
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I must have talked about Everton's condition before. They have started terrible and they are a candidate to relegate from the Premier League with this performance. And next time, they are playing away against Aston Villa...

I see another loss on the horizon.  Tongue  Aston Villa would absolutely defeat them while there is such a huge power gap. Emery's team are still really strong despite losing some important players. Because they didn't just stay silent with signings at the same time.

Amadou Onana, Ian Maatsen and Jaden Philogene are the ones that come to my mind right now. I would like to see Aston Villa in top 4 race once again. They are already competing in the Champions League this season.  Smiley

I see the Toffees as candidates to be relegated if they continue with Sean Dyche as head coach. He is not that guy for them ( Everton ). He did well bringing them outta the relegation zone when he was signed in as manager though, I can recall him beating Arsenal in the Premier League Competition during his first game in charge. Last season, Sean Dyche did well despite the sanctions and point deductions on Everton. David Moyes hhas been rumoured to be appointed after eleven years of leaving the club.


Aston Villa are going to have a tough season ahead but this game against Everton is not a game for them to lose. Unai Emery and his lads will definitely win this game. You need to read what's written well,  Amadou Onana, Ian Mastseen are players who joined Aston Villa this season. Qualifying for the Champions League Competition next season wouldn't be possible. I see Newcastle fighting for that spot and not even Villa.
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I must have talked about Everton's condition before. They have started terrible and they are a candidate to relegate from the Premier League with this performance. And next time, they are playing away against Aston Villa...

I see another loss on the horizon.  Tongue  Aston Villa would absolutely defeat them while there is such a huge power gap. Emery's team are still really strong despite losing some important players. Because they didn't just stay silent with signings at the same time.

Amadou Onana, Ian Maatsen and Jaden Philogene are the ones that come to my mind right now. I would like to see Aston Villa in top 4 race once again. They are already competing in the Champions League this season.  Smiley
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Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!  Smiley  Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already.  Grin
Liverpool and Manchester City have been the best in the first 3 weeks of the season, they showed impressive matches, I saw that and you can't say it wrong.

The question for many people is whether Liverpool will be very consistent and show very good performance in Arne Slot, because he is the Liverpool coach now and will compete with his idol, Guardiola as the conqueror of the English premier league in the last few seasons, this will be very interesting, it looks like the English premier league will not be able to escape Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool for this kind of potential, although Arsenal did not go well against Brighton yesterday with a draw.

The performance of Liverpool is much better when compared to that of Manchester City after three matches though both teams won their three matches but Liverpool team is yet to conceed a goal which makes them stand out after three matches.

Liverpool has started well so far but whether or not they will remain consistent is still unknown because their are so many matches awaiting them and one can consider them as being consistent if they are able to win every game they play and how well they perform in the games. The Liverpool coach Arne Slot is already aware of the challenges he is going to encounter since he is seeing Manchester City and their coach which is familiar to him so it is his responsibility to position him team in a level where they can challenge Pep Guardiola and his team to win the league ahead of them even as he will have Arsenal to battle with after Manchester City.

It is always a question of consistency, this is something that is very difficult to predict because it is related to the future and the situation of a team on its journey, just like we talk about health, whether we will be healthy in the future, because illness cannot be predicted.
This means that we don't know who will be the most consistent this season even though they had a very good start to the season, but there must be obstacles that will come to them from many factors such as injury, loss of motivation, lack of compatibility, internal problems and others that can occur and affect a team in maintaining its performance.
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It is good to hear Palmer isn't going to be a part of the Conference League main stage. It isn't the Champions League in the end. Why would you risk your best player by far, right?  Smiley


Right. Use the key player in the prioritized league. Don't risk them by playing against medium-tier clubs in the conference league.

I don't underestimate conference teams, but Palmer is more than a key player for us. He's a vital asset. He helps us compete in the Premier League. even he's carrying us last season.

Also, I have no issue with this. We have a big squad stacked, and it's better to use and give them all minutes.

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It is really boring when a week passes without any PL game... I hate international breaks when there are friendlies or Nations League games. I see both of them as the same thing.

As for next week's games, we are going to open the week with a Southampton - Manchester United game. I wonder what your thoughts are on that one.  Smiley  Manchester United have been a disgrace for 3 weeks. Even in the Fulham game I didn't like their effort despite the win. Losing to Liverpool home by such a heavy score was also really bad. If they continue to lose many points I don't expect Erik ten Hag to last more than the 1st half of the season.
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Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!  Smiley  Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already.  Grin


Lol, impressive thought and your thought might be right but don’t you think the season is too fresh to predict besides Brighton and Arsenal is at the corner watching. I still wonder how Brighton managed to come with early speed and energy I hope they mention same energy all through.


If you're wondering about how Brighton managed to come with early speed and energy. It's all started when they let Maresca go to Chelsea. They then recruited Fabian Hurzeler as their new coach. And he is being nominated as the top manager of this month.



Liverpool performance is still very perfect even though they have not made much movement in the transfer market this season, but arne slot is able to maintain their performance and also consistency in achieving victory, although previously arne slot was quite doubtful to have the same capacity like Klopp in coaching but at least at the beginning of this season we can see their journey quite safe with Manchester City,  Arne Slot has not proven that he is better than Klopp but I think Liverpool current game is quite good and has improved very significantly so the opportunity for Arne Slot to win the league is wide open if Liverpool continue to be able to maintain their game performance.

@jeffbrad12, I don't know what the relationship is between Brighton and Maresca who moved to Chelsea, if you  say that Maresca was previously the coach of Brighton of course you are wrong, because the previous coach of Brighton was De Zerbi who moved to Marseille, while Maresca is a former Leicester City coach who was recruited by Chelsea, so I think Brighton current performance has nothing to do with maresce at all.
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Arne Slot definitely has a lot of ground to cover, he is doing good so far but he is a new manager for a team that has been good for many years now, and while a top four finish would be fine for many people, I think the start made people a little bit more hyped, so there is a chance that people may want to see even better results.

Honestly speaking, if Liverpool ended this season as the champions of premier league, would we be shocked? I wouldn't be shocked, I am not expecting that to happen at all, but I am also not considering this as impossible neither. Brighton has been good too, but I would say it is near impossible for Brighton to win the league, it is not like that for Liverpool, it's unlikely but it's on the table as a possibility.

Arne Slot didn't have any spectacular achievement before signing for Liverpool. This was the point why people have had second thoughts about him. I was also the same, I'm not going to lie.  Tongue

But now we are watching a really good team. Organized, know what they are doing. Salah still has the biggest score contribution. It makes me very happy. Because you know he is 32 years old now. One can doubt his consistency because of his getting old. But no, he continues to play like a maestro.  Smiley

Liverpool to become champions? Why not? But it is going to be very tough to deal with Manchester City - Arsenal both.
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Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!  Smiley  Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already.  Grin
Liverpool have played three matches so far in the English Premier League where they have won all the matches and they have not conceded any goals so far. It has been a great start for Liverpool in the Premier League. However, it is the very beginning of the season and there is still a long way to go so Liverpool must be consistent going forward. They need to ensure that their performance does not deteriorate towards the middle of the season or towards the end of the season. 

A new manager has taken over at Liverpool so all these achievements will no doubt compliment his team management skills. If the current manager can give the right direction to the team till the end of the season, then this team will definitely compete with Manchester City or Arsenal in the Premier League.

Liverpool has been a strong team from the start because Jurgen Klopp has left a solid legacy and it cannot be denied that whatever it is, Klopp has contributed there. But that doesn't mean Arne Slot didn't play a part because it's not easy to carry on the legacy of a great coach and if he rushes then it could end badly. In time he will be successful in his own way because he is indeed a potential coach, but it will take time and process.

Liverpool is in a good run of form and it was a great start. Now the question is, can they continue to be consistent throughout the season or will they repeat the mistakes of the previous two seasons?
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Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!  Smiley  Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already.  Grin
Liverpool and Manchester City have been the best in the first 3 weeks of the season, they showed impressive matches, I saw that and you can't say it wrong.

The question for many people is whether Liverpool will be very consistent and show very good performance in Arne Slot, because he is the Liverpool coach now and will compete with his idol, Guardiola as the conqueror of the English premier league in the last few seasons, this will be very interesting, it looks like the English premier league will not be able to escape Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool for this kind of potential, although Arsenal did not go well against Brighton yesterday with a draw.

The performance of Liverpool is much better when compared to that of Manchester City after three matches though both teams won their three matches but Liverpool team is yet to conceed a goal which makes them stand out after three matches.

Liverpool has started well so far but whether or not they will remain consistent is still unknown because their are so many matches awaiting them and one can consider them as being consistent if they are able to win every game they play and how well they perform in the games. The Liverpool coach Arne Slot is already aware of the challenges he is going to encounter since he is seeing Manchester City and their coach which is familiar to him so it is his responsibility to position him team in a level where they can challenge Pep Guardiola and his team to win the league ahead of them even as he will have Arsenal to battle with after Manchester City.
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Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!  Smiley  Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already.  Grin
Liverpool have played three matches so far in the English Premier League where they have won all the matches and they have not conceded any goals so far. It has been a great start for Liverpool in the Premier League. However, it is the very beginning of the season and there is still a long way to go so Liverpool must be consistent going forward. They need to ensure that their performance does not deteriorate towards the middle of the season or towards the end of the season. 

A new manager has taken over at Liverpool so all these achievements will no doubt compliment his team management skills. If the current manager can give the right direction to the team till the end of the season, then this team will definitely compete with Manchester City or Arsenal in the Premier League.
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If you're wondering about how Brighton managed to come with early speed and energy. It's all started when they let Maresca go to Chelsea. They then recruited Fabian Hurzeler as their new coach. And he is being nominated as the top manager of this month.
Fabian Hurzeler is one of the important factors behind Brighton's good performance at the start of this season. This team has played with great enthusiasm in its last three matches, but this good performance could still decline if several players in the current main squad suffer injuries. I don't know Fabian Hurzeler that well, but I admit he has played an important role in Brighton's revival this season.

If Brighton can be this consistent throughout the season, then I think they can compete to win a ticket to the Champions League next season. Brighton ended last season in 11th position with 12 wins, 12 draws and 14 losses, but they could potentially be in the European zone this season and claim a slot there at the end of the season.
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Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!  Smiley  Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already.  Grin
If Liverpool has gone three matches this season without conceding a goal, it is actually a big plus to Arne Slot. I haven't taken note of that statistic, I only know that they are unbeating so far with Manchester City. Before the 30th of November when Manchester City will meet Liverpool, either of Manchester City or Liverpool or even both must have lost some points. Even if they are unable to lose three points, they will at least lose two points. The English Premier League of this season is not that lose, it is somewhat competitive that anything can happen to any of these big clubs at any time.

Not withstanding, I am more confident in Manchester City and Arsenal than in Liverpool. Why do I say so, it is because both Pep Guardiola and Mikel Arteta have been in English Premier League and have known how to manage their players. If small injury crisis rock Liverpool, I am not very sure that Arne Slot can handle it effectively.
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Arne Slot definitely has a lot of ground to cover, he is doing good so far but he is a new manager for a team that has been good for many years now, and while a top four finish would be fine for many people, I think the start made people a little bit more hyped, so there is a chance that people may want to see even better results.

Honestly speaking, if Liverpool ended this season as the champions of premier league, would we be shocked? I wouldn't be shocked, I am not expecting that to happen at all, but I am also not considering this as impossible neither. Brighton has been good too, but I would say it is near impossible for Brighton to win the league, it is not like that for Liverpool, it's unlikely but it's on the table as a possibility.
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Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!  Smiley  Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already.  Grin
Liverpool and Manchester City have been the best in the first 3 weeks of the season, they showed impressive matches, I saw that and you can't say it wrong.

The question for many people is whether Liverpool will be very consistent and show very good performance in Arne Slot, because he is the Liverpool coach now and will compete with his idol, Guardiola as the conqueror of the English premier league in the last few seasons, this will be very interesting, it looks like the English premier league will not be able to escape Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool for this kind of potential, although Arsenal did not go well against Brighton yesterday with a draw.
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Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!  Smiley  Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already.  Grin


Lol, impressive thought and your thought might be right but don’t you think the season is too fresh to predict besides Brighton and Arsenal is at the corner watching. I still wonder how Brighton managed to come with early speed and energy I hope they mention same energy all through.


If you're wondering about how Brighton managed to come with early speed and energy. It's all started when they let Maresca go to Chelsea. They then recruited Fabian Hurzeler as their new coach. And he is being nominated as the top manager of this month.


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Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!  Smiley  Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already.  Grin
Lol, impressive thought and your thought might be right but don’t you think the season is too fresh to predict besides Brighton and Arsenal is at the corner watching. I still wonder how Brighton managed to come with early speed and energy I hope they mention same energy all through.
I never expected much from Arne Slot also like it’s a new season and Liverpool with a new coach but still doing perfect is impressive, seeing how Arne Slot lead the team shows he’s ready for the title let’s watch out.
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Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!  Smiley  Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already.  Grin
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