Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 245. (Read 71629 times)

That is what makes a great manager and a good team, by not building in centre of attention on a particular player which they perfects in making use of every player on the field  to becoming as much threat to the opponents. If alone a player like De Bruyne is the only threat there in Manchester City, there would be lots of tensions and aggressiveiveness from the opponent towards the player which may cause constant injuries and create lapses from the team performance whereas Manchester City has a team that in every of their various positions are a threat and knows how to end up building goals, even without another key player on the field.

Nothing happens with city. The title will roll to the second place at the season when city violated the PSR rules.

The team behind them (2nd place) will be receiving the trophy won by city.

There may be only a few PL trophies to be taken away if City is found guilty. But, it will not affect the recent trophies they won.

It's not the end of era in england.

This is another topic what I'm curious about. If we consider like the case is over and all those titles are taken back from Manchester City in the Premier League. Then what happens? 

I mean will those years be left as blank or will there be a thing like the teams right behind them are called as new champions of those years? I guess the first one would happen because I haven't seen any example of the latter. 

It can really be like the end of an era in England, at least for a while if Manchester City reignite it by climbing back to the Premier League. Anyway we will see about that as we don't even have the result in our hands.

Manchester City has a hearing in front of the independent commission. It is already scheduled for November. There may be further update if we are getting closer to the date of hearing by manchester city. The case is still running. But yeah, it takes too long just to enter the hearing phase. Manchester City is the team accused of breaking the rules many times. But, I think this case will end next year.


I think there will be no new dynamic in the league. The city's violations mostly related to the PSR rules. And, yeah, there is still a loophole in PSR rules. But, when the FA tried to fix it, most teams said no. FA finds it hard to fix the loopholes. Most teams were voting NO. I think PSR rules must change, but it will not be an effortless task for FA.

Kevin De Bruyne is indeed the best midfielder that Man City has. He has helped the striker with the passes he provides, as proven when he was injured, Haaland did not perform optimally because rarely anyone provided passes, in other words, De Bruyne has the most important position at Man City.

But Kevin De Bruyne is getting older, it is reported that he will leave Man City this summer and there are rumors that he has made a deal with one of the Saudi Arabian clubs, ready or not ready, Man City must prepare the best midfielder who will replace him, there are many good players at various clubs, Pep must be smart good at assessing players who have potential like Kevin De Bruyne. I know this player is difficult to replace, but no matter what, Man City cannot force the player to continue at Man City.

Source : Kevin De Bruyne

Haaland is definitely one of the best strikers and the best finisher in Manchester City but you see if this star leaves the club it will have a bad effect on the performance of the club but how much have you thought about the name I will say. How much do you think about Kevin De Bruyne? You can consider this player as a good quality midfielder but I think this player is the most important player for Manchester City. Strikers can only score if this player provides good supply from the midfield and passes the ball beautifully to other strikers including Haaland but in his absence Manchester City did not perform very well in the matches they played last season and in every match we felt the absence of this player. So if Kevin De Bruyne leaves the club, it will definitely affect the performance of the club to some extent.

Talks about Manchester city's 115 charges are starting to brew again. The last time the volume of discussion on the charges were like this was towards the end of last season. What changed? Has there been any new developments on the case? Ipl personally would love to see City get punished if any of the shady deals their management did helped them in any way to win those titles that they have won in recent years.

If City is convicted, we can see a whole new dynamics in the league and see teams compete fairly for the title. FA have plenty of work to do because in recent years, there have been more than double the cases of cheating in the premier league.

When it was first reported that Manchester City are facing a 115 count charges, I was very doubtful about the authenticity of the case and how serious it might be but considering the extent the case have gotten, I think it's something to worry about by the club's management. It is reported that since 2009, the club have "concealed payments made by the club director Sheikh Mansour through third parties" of which they were disguised as sponsorship deals. That's a big cheating to other clubs in the league and that's why Manchester City might be facing total expulsion from the English Premier League if they're found guilty as charged. The good news is that their English Premier League titles will not be stripped from them. I hope the club ends up fixing the issue.

Do you even think that Manchester City will be punished for these cases they are laying against them? The reason you have not seen these cases is that it is Manchester City, if it were another club, the court would have given the order to pass the punishment for a long which would favor some teams, but they always wait till the end of the season before they bring back the case; I just hope the right punishment is been given to them just as they used to give other teams.

Haaland is a good finisher, he is good at converting chances, but always out of the team when Manchester City loses the ball, the team can survive without him since they have Julin Alvarez who can do a good job as well.
If Manchester is charged and the punishment includes being relegated, Pep will leave Manchester City, and some players will also leave as well.

It seems all of the Mancity local titles under the Premier League will definitely be cancelled. If the punishment is only a fine and relegation, perhaps many clubs will still not be satisfied.
Other clubs will definitely protest with a reason that Mancity can get those trophies because they have many quality players by cheating the financial fair play.
However, it will be complicated to decide which club has the right to get those titles after Mancity is decided guilty and had all the titles revoked from 2009 to 2018.

If Manchester City is punished for such accusations, then of course all of Manchester City's star players are very likely to leave. Because when a team has received a punishment, especially if for example the punishment is relegation, then Manchester City is not the right place for all the star player. For example, in the past, Juventus was sentenced to relegation after winning the Scudetto, and the Scudetto title was given to Inter and in fact at that time almost all of Juventus star players left and the only loyal players who remained were Del Piero and Buffon.

With considerations like that, it is of course very possible that Manchester City's star players will leave, because they do not have great or big loyalty and or do not have a great love for staying at Manchester City. But even so, I hope this case does not take away all of Manchester City's trophies or achievements because of course, it would be bad for the team as a whole including the success record of players and coaches.

Pep Guardiola has made history with Man City and there is no doubt that the Spanish teacher deserves to be England's greatest coach. People have the right to say that Pep Guardiola has created the greatest team in English football history. This is a united team, a unified team. I like the purity of the club. If I choose the greatest coach, Pep Guardiola must be number 1. Then comes Sir Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger, Jose Mourinho and Jurgen Klopp. Pep Guardiola surpassed Sir Alex Ferguson when he became the first coach to win the Premier League four consecutive seasons.

However, there is still an opinion that Guardiola is lucky to work for a team with strong potential like Man City. It could be argued that Guardiola simply joined teams that were already extremely successful. But on the other hand, why does Guardiola get such a privilege, instead of someone else?

De Bruyne is a player who has dominated the Premier League for years now. He has probably also won enough amount of trophies that he desires. But, Pep knows that he knows KDB to succeed because he is not just a great player, but also an important person in the dressing room.

Maybe KDB will prioritize money now, since he is not that of a competitive individual, and also has won enough. If he goes to Saudi or MLS, he will get a huge amount of wages too. Yes, it will be hard for City to replace him, but sooner or later it will follow through.

I know that Rodri and Haaland's excellence was most clearly shown in the 2022/23 season, when they contributed greatly to helping Manchester City win the treble, winning the Premier League, FA Cup, and Champions League. But it cannot be for that reason that when they leave Manchester City, the team will be very poorly next season.
You should understand Pep Guardiola, in his team there is no center, we saw last season when the pillars of the team were injured, but Pep Guardiola still has the factors to help the team. Premier League champion. If there are departures of key players, this is not necessarily the decline of Manchester City. This can be considered a new thing for them. With stable finances and Pep Guadiola's vision, I believe they will bring in even better quality players. There will be no irreplaceable player. Because in Pep Guardiola's strategy, there is no word impossible. What I think is that if Pep Guardiola leaves then Manchester City will decline.

I haven't read anything about the case against City for a long time, but it would only be fair if they receive a penalty and this applies also to many european clubs in different countries.

Apart from that, however, I do not believe that if Haaland leaves City, this circumstance would harm the club. Haaland was not good in the last few months in the last season anyway and without him they were better. Alvarez was much better towards the end of the season, which does not mean that Haaland is bad but maybe he just needs a new club to perform good.

Sergio Aguero was one of Manchester City's most prolific strikers previously and many people say that Manchester City will have great difficulty finding a replacement. But since Pep Guardiola brought Haaland from Dortmund, Aguero's name seems to have been forgotten and now it's just Haaland. This could happen to Haaland if he decides to leave Manchester City in the next few seasons, he will be replaced even though he will never be the same.

Erling Haaland is very different from previous Manchester City strikers, where Haaland had a fantastic debut by registering his name as top scorer in his first two seasons. Haaland has played 66 matches with Manchester City in the Premier League and has scored 63 goals and 13 assists, of course this is only about the Premier League not yet the Champions League and other domestic competitions.

Pep Guardiola is definitely one of the great coaches of all time, there is no doubt about that. But when people make the claim that Pep never worked with a squad with a low budget, I think I have to concede to that. Whichever club he worked in, he had players with high talent bars and did put in work to achieve that. In City, yes he made a lot of young talents into big players but he also had a lot of money to work with, which favored him.

I think for a team to do good, and keep consistently performing at the highest level, they need to have good squad depth, and City always has that due to having so much money to spend on players.

But we all have to credit Guardiola because of his tactics, his ability in finding talents, and his mentality of winning. He does and has done things no one else has done in football so far, so massive props to that man.

He might be one of the best goalscoring players no doubts but he'll always have someone who will be there to replace him immediately he leaves Manchester City. Julian Alvarez has also been linked in leave the club because I don't think he is comfortable sitting on the bench as a backup player. I feel like he has won it all, it's that time he goes out there and play for another club as the number one striker.
Rodri leaving Manchester City would affect them slightly, I have seen what's it's like in his absence and I know at the moment, he's got none to fill up his role comfortably. Liiw I said, there's always a player to replace a player who wants to leave.


Rashford is also a donkey, they're like virus right now, I hope they don't affect Kobbie Mainoo with their dirty behavior's. I wouldn't mind seeing the both of them leaving Manchester United.  I have been reading about the news of Ivan Toney lately, I would love it though because I cannot trust Marcus Rashford and Sancho, not even Antony after how they failed to fight for thr manager last season.

I would want to see Amad Diallo getting enough game time for Manchester United next season honestly. Je has earned it right from that game against Liverpool in the Fa Cup Competition.
It's reasons why they have Joshua Zirkzee signed in, Manchester United can have a front trio of Garnacho,  Zirkzee and Amad. I will love that because they're simply after scoring goals, pacy and good technically on and off the ball and can find themselves in good spaces.

The Manchester City squad so far will not experience instability even if they lose 1 or 2 players as you said, so far we know that the depth that Manchester City has is quite capable and allows them to continue competing in the race for the title, but indeed the accusations by Manchester City is currently quite serious with 116 accusations which could destroy them as a team if the allegations are proven, but what surprises me is that it seems like these cases have been surfacing for quite some time but none of them have been processed by the league authorities England Football so far, this is different from teams like Everton and Nottingham Forest which are being immediately prosecuted by the English league authorities at this time.
Guardiola seems to realize that if he stays longer at Manchester City then it is not impossible that this will also tarnish his achievements, because if Manchester City is punished, won't it also have an effect on Guardiola as a coach?


When a team like Everton which commits one violation actually gets a deduction of almost 10 points, then if Manchester City is proven guilty of committing 116 violations, of course you can imagine how much punishment they will get in the future and it is even possible that Manchester City will be banned from competing in both the league and champions league in the future.

In fact, Diallo and Antony are both right wingers while Sancho can play on both wings productively.    This is why I think there wouldn't be any conflict among these players. Rather than that I'm wondering what they are planning with Rashford? 

He still remains at the club despite his inconsistencies during the recent years. If they part ways with him there would be Sancho and Garnacho left as natural left wingers. Both of them wouldn't have any playing time issues then. Even if Rashford stays, I wouldn't prioritize him in the starting 11. It doesn't make sense. 

By the way, I've heard Juventus is still thinking of trying their chance with Sancho. Do you think they can get him as of now?