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Quote from: MK-74 on April 23, 2024, 04:34:59 PM

Arsenal won against Chelsea this evening by a different score. I didn't expect such a result, but it was a very comfortable win for them.
Their only goal now is to become champions of the Premier League and win the cup. I hope they win the cup this year.

Without Palmer Chelsea are really a mess obviously. I was expecting them to have serious issues with scoring because of that. However this 5-0 score was way more than I expected. Arsenal scored many goals by short time intervals in the second half. Chelsea were already desperate in the first half as they weren't productive at all. Sad

Pochettino said that this wasn't Cole Palmer Football Club, this was Chelsea Football Club. However after this result too we can comfortably say they are hopeless without Palmer. Especially in big games and the other ones would also get more difficult. Palmer has taken a big responsibility so far and the team are relying on him.

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Quote from: davis196 on April 24, 2024, 05:57:53 AM

The most surprising thing for me was Kai Havertz scoring two goals. This guy failed in Chelsea, but he obviously had found his place in Arsenal. Maybe Arteta knows how to help his players show their best performance. I've always thought that Havertz is a mediocre and overvalued player. Chelsea was in ruins during the second half, but I think that Pochettino shouldn't be sacked. The American guy, who is the current owner of Chelsea must stop with the transfer madness and start buying only the players, that are approved by Pochettino for the next season.

Sometimes it happens like this in football. A player can be in a team and be performing so bad but after he is being signed to another team you will see him performing very well. Arteta is a good coach no doubt about and you can see how the players are doing very great in permanence. I think Arteta is a coach that can bring the best performance out from a player, it wad so interesting seeing scoring those great goals for arsenal.

It will be better for Chelsea if the players are being selected by the coach because he knows the best players that can work well for him. Chelsea still needs to give Pochettino more time, he is not the problem of the club.

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Quote from: davis196 on April 24, 2024, 05:57:53 AM

Top lad who has moved on from his past. You know, he never had a good start as he switched to Arsenal but everything payed off with his hardwork and commitment to the team. Mikel Arteta as well backed him game after game even when he wasn't productive.

I won't say he failed with Chelsea, he scored the winner for them against Manchester City during the Champions League Competition Finals, Yes? That's something to remember him for, Chelsea just needed that overhauling, so they had to let player's like him leave the club.

Mauricio Pochetino has already had worst stats compared to Graham Potter, but I don't know what plans the management of Chelsea has for him. They should make good choices ahead of the new season, so they don't get affected with the same tiring performance they had tis season.
The entire Arsenal team that started the match played well for me except Saka. David Raya indeed a good option to be extended during transfer window.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on April 23, 2024, 04:13:10 PM

Here we are. The full-time result. I don't think anyone expected it to go that easy for Arsenal. That goal in the 4th minute really set the tone of the game.
Chelsea fans can feel disappointed, as their team couldn't do much against Arsenal's defence and they only managed to produce 1 shot on target.

Arsenal now sits at the top of the table with 4 points advantage over Man City, who have 2 games more to play, but the pressure now is much higher on the City.

This is proof that Arsenal succeeded in showing and deserved a landslide victory. Of these 5 goals, I highlighted Havertz performance, which in Arteta's hands actually transformed into a quality player. He proved to the team that had sold him that it was the biggest mistake. Pochettino was embarrassed by Havertz goal celebration. I likes the way he is getting better with Arsenal, and is willing to fight to improve his performance. I didn't think this far about the score that Arsenal could score, my initial prediction was just over 3 goals but seeing the Chelsea players on the front line without Cole Palmer did have a bad impact in terms of attack. Jackson couldn't be relied on, he was too selfish to be an executor and his performance was quite bad.

Manchester City 2 matches against Brighton and North Forest shouldn't be too much pressure as long as Pep and his players are really focused on maximizing opportunities. Consistently Manchester City certainly has a high chance of getting 3 points in these 2 matches. So it's better to field his best squad because in a situation like this Pep can't take too many risks.

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Quote from: MK-74 on April 23, 2024, 04:34:59 PM

One thing about arsenal is that once they are playing with big club they are always serious but when they jam small club they always under rate them without noing that they are going for title race, the game yesterday was really unbelievable that arsenal is going to won Chelsea by 5 zero without Chelsea even score 1 goal, I think they really played well yesterday and for them to think of premier league title them really need to maintain with their wining ways and pray for man city to lose 1 of their match, but could this be possible?

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Quote from: nelson4lov on April 23, 2024, 05:59:07 PM

Arsenal winning strongly today against Chelsea is their way of sending strong warnings to City that they're still very much interested in winning the EPL title. I watched the game for the most parts and even from the first half, Chelsea was looking really shaky at the back but Petrovic was on ground to deliver very crucial saves in the first half and early in the second half until things went from bad to worse for Chelsea.

It can be considered as last chance for arsenal. Unable to winning the rest of game meant no trophy for this season. If manchester city will able to get cleansheet for the remaining games then city win the competition. Arsenal is still under big pressure even though it keeps win the remaining games.
Chelsea has very poor defensive line. My impressions about chelsea's defenders if they were so lazy in protecting the goal keeper.

Quote from: nelson4lov on April 23, 2024, 05:59:07 PM

Pochettino is going to have plenty of work to do in the next transfer window because this Chelsea defense without Thiago Silva in command has always been a joke.

The first thing he must do to put him back on the bench

Yeah, jackson. This garbage striker must be abandoned in the upcoming games. He has horrible finishing. So many times he was being scared when one on one against the goal keeper. Pochettino shall get rid of him. The better for the club to sell jackson.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on April 23, 2024, 04:13:10 PM

To be honest with you irrespective of how poor in performance Chelsea is I never expected the match to end this way because I know that Chelsea matches with Arsenal is not always easy for the both teams because during the time Chelsea was in a good form Arsenal doesn't take them much time to win but with their poor performances now has made Arsenal far superior than them, however in terms of this match the early 4 minutes goal was actually one of the things that disorganized Chelsea performance, although they were still trying a bit after the goal that was the reason they managed to prevent Arsenal from scoring again on the first half.

But when they come back to the second half Arsenal showed them what they are made up of because Chelsea could no longer be able to defend well and the goals keep coming, so actually with the outcome of the match non of the Chelsea fans will be happy because the goals was too much and it was as if Arsenal was playing with a smaller team because of how poor Chelsea was performing, however Arsenal has ones again shows everyone that they are a club to be respected.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on April 23, 2024, 04:47:10 PM

Quote from: Abu-Naim on April 23, 2024, 04:27:26 PM

Chelsea is always good while plying big teams despite their poor form and inconsistency.
Chelsea fans will think that after playing a draw in the first leg against Arsenal can also get similar results since they know that Arsenal is in a pressure of winning all their matches because of the title race.

NO. Chelsea didn't always play good against big teams. If you checked the history of Chelsea matches, they are defeated several times by big teams.
1. Defeated by Liverpool in EFL Cup final
2. Defeated by Man City in FA Cup semi-final
3. Defeated by Arsenal in EPL matchday 29

Well, it is true that Arsenal sometime played inconsistently but other teams in EPL also did it. It is not easy to play consistently in the whole season. However, it is great that Arsenal is leading again the EPL standings after they defeated Chelsea with 5 goals today.

Chelsea this season as been inconsistent even against the big teams and majority of the issues here is from Poch, who usually fails to make the right changes or use the right formation, his strategy is sub-par, no hope on him succeeding at Chelsea if only Blind Todd can see and get a better management staff for the club.

Quote from: Abu-Naim on April 23, 2024, 04:27:26 PM

At the end, Arsenal won the match with an unexpected score line; 5-0 is very big for team like Chelsea.

If we are talking Chelsea in Roman Abramovich era, Chelsea is surely a big team. Winning against them with 5 goals will be a great achievement. But Chelsea is just an average team now. I think it is just a normal win, scoring 5 goals isn't a very amazing achievement. Chelsea defense is weak, it is not surprising to score 5 goals.

Chelsea has been a shadow of their past and the earlier we as a fan accept this, the better for us, this is what we expect when we have a disappointing head, which Todd, a coach that lacks good strategy and players who are not worthy to be starting games sees themselves as a regular starter in the club

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Quote from: MK-74 on April 23, 2024, 04:34:59 PM

Wow!!! Unbelievable. 5 - nil. In the first half it was 1-0 and after the first half I didn't watch the second half again. And the same score goes to Leicester City and Southampton in the ChampionshipEngland League. This is more than luck. This is the time we see real skillful players I'm the football game. Chelsea that I was thinking that would do well I'm this match disappointed me. Is it that because Palmer didn't play? At least 1-1 or 2-2 would have been better. The whole 5-0. Ah! That is too much. Whom do we blame in this kind game, is it the coach of Chelsea or the players? Because in the first half Chelsea was playing very well and I don't know what happened again in the second half. They have loss in the game so they have to rearrange themselves in the next match and not to disappoint people like that.

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Quote from: Abu-Naim on April 23, 2024, 04:27:26 PM

At the end, Arsenal won the match with an unexpected score line; 5-0 is very big for team like Chelsea.

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Quote from: CLS63 on April 23, 2024, 03:03:47 PM

I'm not surprised with the current score of the Arsenal-Chelsea match. Arsenal should be able to win home. We have clearly seen so far that Chelsea are nothing without Palmer. Sad

They didn't even have a shot on goal in the first half. Palmer isn't here today because of an illness. I wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea don't manage to score even 1 goal. Tomorrow Liverpool also had better win against Everton to main their title chance.

Manchester City are still the biggest favourite for the title anyway of course.

Is already full -time and Arsenal won Chelsea by 5 zero what a wonderful night for arsenal after there poor performance against Aston villa 2 weeks back and they continue again with their wining ways, they won wolves last week by 2 zero if not for that 3 points they lost against Aston villa I think by now they would have been topping the premier league table with 3 points difference from Liverpool and Man City.

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Arsenal absolutely demolished Chelsea, 5 nil, unbelievable. This is Chelsea’s 11th loss this season, I didn’t expect them to lose with a 5 goal margin. The performance of Chelsea tonight was very poor, Mauricio Pochettino needs to go back to the drawing board and get his game together. It’s sad to see that after spending over 200m in the transfer market, this Chelsea side has nothing to show for it. I will be watching to the see the reactions and comments from Chelsea fans tonight.

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Quote from: CLS63 on April 23, 2024, 03:03:47 PM

I'm not surprised with the current score of the Arsenal-Chelsea match. Arsenal should be able to win home. We have clearly seen so far that Chelsea are nothing without Palmer. Sad

Nicholas Jackson was nearest to put the ball at the back of the net but tht boy is a palm wine tapper, he has been far from good from the last three games Chelsea has played.
Also, Chelsea blunt ASF without Cole Palmer, they made chances but who would execute them? Nicholas Jackson? Hell No!

The midfielder's couldn't shield up the defenders so they went ahead to concede five fauckin goals tonight. So happy for David Raya,. Mikel Arteta indeed knew the qualities he had and got stucked with him. Glad to see him silencing these critics, I think it's high time they sell off a player like Aaron Ramsdale.

And what's the difference between Marcus Rashford and Saka?If they make the Euro's, them I'd know they they're mad and not having brains. Good game, shout-out to Kai Havertz.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on April 23, 2024, 04:13:10 PM

Chelsea fans expected a win in the match because of the following reasons:

Chelsea won 6-0 in their last Premier League match against Everton which they think will give them high chance of winning Arsenal that struggle to defeat Wolves over the weekend.

Chelsea is always good while plying big teams despite their poor form and inconsistency.

Chelsea fans will think that after playing a draw in the first leg against Arsenal can also get similar results since they know that Arsenal is in a pressure of winning all their matches because of the title race.

At the end, Arsenal won the match with an unexpected score line; 5-0 is very big for team like Chelsea. Arsenal now sit on top of the Premier League table before other teams play their match, they keep maintaining their goal difference and also they have escaped one of the obstacles people were expecting to give them problem.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on April 23, 2024, 04:13:10 PM

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Here we are. The full-time result. I don't think anyone expected it to go that easy for Arsenal. That goal in the 4th minute really set the tone of the game.
Chelsea fans can feel disappointed, as their team couldn't do much against Arsenal's defence and they only managed to produce 1 shot on target.

Arsenal now sits at the top of the table with 4 points advantage over Man City, who have 2 games more to play, but the pressure now is much higher on the City.

a landslide victory and that was a spectacular performance from Arsenal this season. Before the match started I didn't imagine that Arsenal could score many goals in this match but in reality Arsenal was able to do it. The goal in the 4th minute really made Arsenal more confident in the match where they were able to play more aggressively in pressing Chelsea. Chelsea fans are not disappointed, but they certainly feel embarrassed because their idol team was beaten by a big score by Arsenal.

Arsenal are now more comfortable and they are just waiting for the results of their rival match this week. Manchester City is of course very under pressure because they have to win the match against Brighton to be able to keep up with Arsenal. So, if they lose, Arsenal will be lucky enough and have a greater chance of becoming champions.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on April 23, 2024, 11:53:06 AM

Quote from: ShowOff on April 22, 2024, 12:46:16 PM

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I agree with you. Even though the Champions League title is very prestigious, at least they can get the EPL title. They have the biggest opportunity compared to Liverpool and Arsenal. in UCL they have Real Madrid as the strongest competitor. I don't think there will be any big anger from fans for losing to Real Madrid. But fans will be very disappointed if they cannot get the EPL title after the points advantage they have. The FA title is also important but it is not as prestigious as the Premier League.

Losing on penalties to Real Madrid in the quarter-finals of the Champions League should be a big disappointment for Manchester City fans, but they don't have to be lost in sadness which leads to bad results in the final match in their domestic competition. Manchester City is a good team with Pep Guardiola, but they were just unlucky in the Champions League in the penalty shootout.

I completely agree with you, Manchester City can still win the Premier League title and also the FA Cup this season. These two titles would be a great achievement for them at the end of the season and they must make it happen. But now, Arsenal is putting pressure on Manchester City, who are currently 2 games behind Arsenal. Manchester City is 4 points behind Arsenal after Arsenal won the match 5-0 against Chelsea a few minutes ago.