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With the new format, it will indeed be very possible if the EPL team does that it's just that for now I see is what if in the end there are new format rules when adding Champions League slots but this season Liverpool who are in competition in the EPL for the championship race (systematically in the top 4) and they become champions in the Europa Legaue because they are now competing in the quarter-finals and the big chance of winning is still very much there for now.

When the automatic slot for the Europa League champion (if Liverpool wins) whether there will indeed be additions from other clubs or not because in the end we can see it even become 6 slots if the new rules are 5 EPL clusters in the Champions League as well as the Europa League champion who is automatically included in the Champions League the following season.

Is this also possible or are only 5 slots still used?
Because if it is only 5 slots, I think all leagues are still possible, especially for last season we saw in La Liga who got 5 slots and the previous 2 seasons there were clubs from the Bundesliga who got it.
What happens if Liverpool wins europa, which is direct UCL, but also they are in top four as we know, so they are going to UCL anyway. I am not entirely sure if that spot goes away, like they just get one, or does that mean fifth of Premier league goes to UCL? Not really well versed in that regards.

In any case, there is no guarantee that Liverpool would win europa, there is a possibility that they could lose along the way. Yes they are the better team, but check the past five years and quarter finals till finals, you will see many good teams end up losing to unexpected teams (mostly to sevilla lol) so you will realize that Liverpool may not end up winning at all. That means nothing will change with the situation.
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I doubt the strength of the last game of Ut between Manchester United and Breherd, Brentford is good for hot match play in big team, I first experienced drone then I didn't know well oh no Manchester Utd tease me when they are up. Can hold the ball,Where Braerford had to equalize after just three minutes, it didn't bother me so much as I knew it was going to be an easy trip for United.
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Truly, it was disappointing to watch Chelsea settle for a draw at home to a mediocre Burnley side even worse, this "mediocre" team had a red card since the first half and they couldn't take advantage of it to give the win to their fans at home. It's just a terrible performance by Pochettino's boys and they have had many of such this season so its nothing new. To think Pochettino brought in new guys to strengthen the squad during the last transfer window. At this point, I'm sure Y'all will agree with me that Chelsea needs a new coach. They have to keep switching till they get the right now.
Mauricio Pochettino should be out because I don't see any significant changes his presence have made so far, instead we're here watching the terrible performance of the Blues. Chelsea have changed and they're now classified as mediocre team on my watch because I can't explain how an elite team like the Blues will fight so hard to win a mediocre team that's even one man down. Burnley performance was extremely fantastic because they didn't give up after having a redcard in the first half, they come stronger in the second half to levelled the scores.
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Truly, it was disappointing to watch Chelsea settle for a draw at home to a mediocre Burnley side even worse, this "mediocre" team had a red card since the first half and they couldn't take advantage of it to give the win to their fans at home. It's just a terrible performance by Pochettino's boys and they have had many of such this season so its nothing new. To think Pochettino brought in new guys to strengthen the squad during the last transfer window. At this point, I'm sure Y'all will agree with me that Chelsea needs a new coach. They have to keep switching till they get the right now.

It was really a shame Chelsea couldn't make use of even a red card advantage. The players have already finished the season in their minds obviously and this was why they couldn't even win this match.  Sad

I don't know if it is really Pochettino's fault here. Chelsea have changed quite many coaches and there is still nothing changing. Maybe the source of this problem is not just Pochettino. Like many other people I also don't like Todd Boehly's chairmanship. He has spent his money carelessly for transfers so far and couldn't get any result. Maybe Pochettino might also get sacked soon but I wouldn't be very expectant from their next coach either. Chelsea deserves a better chairman first.
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Have you people notice that Chelsea formation in this match between Chelsea and Burnley, so I believe that what is problem of Chelsea is the coach, by right Chelsea suppose to defeat Burnley in this match because Vincent Kompany received red card for the half and the still they could not defeat Burnley
I think Pochettino is just kind of confused right now. Chelsea had the opportunity to win the match. Burnley received two red cards in the match, one was for their coach, and the other was for their player. They should have made use of the opportunity that they had, but they missed it. I never expected Chelsea to draw today's match. I expected the match to be an easy win for Chelsea, but they couldn’t win the match, all they had was a draw. Burnley played an intelligent game in the match, immediately they equalised, and the match was 1.1. Burnley started playing a defensive game in the match, they didn’t give Chelsea breathing space in their defense, which really helped them.
The game proves that Chelsea haven't improved much. Even though their defense hasn't conceded many goals in the last few games, It hasnt been enough for Chelsea to solve their situation. Lost to 10-men Burnley at home is another low from an expensive talented team. Having a numerical advantage could still not make Chelsea grab the opportunity to win the game. The front line could not capitalize chances has also costed the team.

Burnley have the ability to adapt their tactics after going down to ten men may have caught Chelsea off guard. Instead of crumbling under pressure, Burnley showed resilience and organization, particularly in their defensive efforts. Despite Chelsea's superiority on paper, spirit and determination made the difference in the game. Burnley's equalizer likely shifted the momentum of the game, made it challenging for Chelsea to find openings and capitalize on their numerical advantage. Pochettino's tactics and substitutions seemed to have no impact to the display.
It's nice to know that the international break is over and the EPL is back. However, I was left devastated by yesterday's result of matches played because unlike ever I helped my friend with the predictions and even lost before the last few matches were played.
Alot has sure happened and I wouldn't be surprised if the results of today's matches end up with much draws like yesterday.
Arsenal would be facing Manchester city while Liverpool takes on Brighton. Though I think it would be an easy win for Liverpool, it's too early to tell and for that of Manchester city vs Arsenal, I would be hoping Arsenal wins even if it gets to be by the slimmest chance.
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I was very skeptical about yesterday game between Manchester united and brenthford, brenthford are very good having a hot matches when it comes to big teams,

When I saw the first half o ..o draw I knew is never going to end well oh no Manchester united disappointed me not even when they could not hold the goal they scored at the extra time where brenthford had to equalized just after three minutes, thou it didn't hurts me that much because I already knew that is not going to an easy ride for Manchester united.

Brentford are currently at the bottom of the Premier League standings but they are a team that is very difficult for big big teams so far, so if you are skeptical of course it is quite reasonable because so far we can see how Brentford ability to make it difficult and make teams like Arsenal and Manchester City have to struggle to win, and in not contrast to the results obtained by Manchester United at this time,  Brentford also managed to hold Chelsea to a draw in the previous game, I think lucky enough for Manchester United to get a point in that game because if Brentford had more extra time then maybe Manchester would have lost after Brentford were more aggressive in the final minutes of the game.

Hoping for Manchester United this season is of course like the desire for us to see Chelsea win and of course sometimes the results are quite painful friends Grin, Manchester United is currently increasingly far behind the fight for Europa League tickets at this time, especially in other matches Tottenham can win 3 points over their opponent Luton, thus making Tottenham's position relatively more likely to get European tickets than Manchester United at this time.
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I was very skeptical about yesterday game between Manchester united and brenthford, brenthford are very good having a hot matches when it comes to big teams,

When I saw the first half o ..o draw I knew is never going to end well oh no Manchester united disappointed me not even when they could not hold the goal they scored at the extra time where brenthford had to equalized just after three minutes, thou it didn't hurts me that much because I already knew that is not going to an easy ride for Manchester united.
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Have you people notice that Chelsea formation in this match between Chelsea and Burnley, so I believe that what is problem of Chelsea is the coach, by right Chelsea suppose to defeat Burnley in this match because Vincent Kompany received red card for the half and the still they could not defeat Burnley, the first goal with penalty and by right they suppose to protect the first goal by playing a defensive game, even when Burnley equalise the match to be 1:1 and they score again to be 2:1, everyone taught that Chelsea have defeated Burnley but they could not defend the second goal. So the problem is the players, I think they need keeper and more players.
Vincent Kompany was sent off and he's absence didn't matter, instead his team was possibly confident to play the Blues. I'm tiring of tendering my complaints to the team's board and on their verified social media platforms. Chelsea performance is humiliating and I don't fancy the style Mauricio Pochettino is bringing. One of the terrible performance was today's game at Stamford Bridge, Chelsea failed to beat 10 men on the pitch, instead the Blues was even lucky to not concede another goal because I've watch closely and see the thorough details.

Your comment made me laugh hard this night for saying you are tired of laying complains to their verified social media accounts but on a more serious note, this game against Burnley is one of the worst game of Chelsea because imagine 10 men Burnley giving Chelsea a hard time it's really so funny I must say. I don't think Pochettino can handle Chelsea anymore they really need a new coach to take over the managerial role if things can work in a different perspective for the club because watching them play today is really devastating.

You should also stop focusing on blaming the coach. It's not entirely the coach's fault and you shall also consider other elements that were also contributing a lot to the outcome from this match. Look at the players, they were so incapable, and that is sufficient to prove that the outcome of this game would be also in the player' hands. The coach was only telling them the proper strategy to play, but the final execution is up to the players, but I can't deny that the decision to put garbage chalobach in the game was completely illogical and totally irrational decision. Why doesn't Poch decide to keep pressing Burnley rather than fielding a garbage defender like Chalobach? The main issue with Chelsea was that the club would always decide to stop pressuring its opponents once it was leading in the game which is often in making chelsea lose three points.

This is one of the stupidest mistakes that the club has repeatedly made. I'm just wondering when Poch will be tired of repeating his stupid mistake. The players are terrible, the coaches are even worse, and management is a disaster. It's all good combinations created by Todd Boehley with his hands.
Chelsea produced an unsatisfactory result. The stadium was not overcrowded, as there were many empty seats. Fans appear to have become very upset after witnessing Chelsea's poor performance. They believe that is enough to waste their money for nothing.
There is no guarantee that hiring a new coach will improve the situation if the players are also at fault.

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Currently the media continues to link Ruben Amorim (sporting), Thiago Motta (Bologna), Roberto De Zerbi (Brighton), Unai Emery (Aston Villa) and even so far there are 12 names of coaches who are predicted by the media to be able to replace Klopp next season, but from the names of the existing names, of course I will personally choose Unai Emery to be Liverpool coach next season,  Because after all, Unai Emery has good experience in building teams so far, yes, maybe Aston Villa is starting to fall at this time because of their inconsistency which contains makeshift players, but I think if Unai Emery can coach a team like Liverpool that contains great players, of course Unai Emery will be able to continue Klopp glory later in Liverpool.
If I were Liverpool official, I would try to contact Diego simeone to replace Jurgen Klopp, because when I look at Simeone's coaching style is very suitable for Liverpool's atmosphere and players. He is also quite strict in training player discipline, so the players will remain in their starting position when they penetrate forward. This is quite a good thing, because Liverpool played quite offensively, and maybe this is the most appropriate solution. But, the problem is, is he willing to leave the Atletico where he coached for years?. as a coach, he must to try many things to hone his abilities to face football competition.
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Have you people notice that Chelsea formation in this match between Chelsea and Burnley, so I believe that what is problem of Chelsea is the coach, by right Chelsea suppose to defeat Burnley in this match because Vincent Kompany received red card for the half and the still they could not defeat Burnley
I think Pochettino is just kind of confused right now. Chelsea had the opportunity to win the match. Burnley received two red cards in the match, one was for their coach, and the other was for their player. They should have made use of the opportunity that they had, but they missed it. I never expected Chelsea to draw today's match. I expected the match to be an easy win for Chelsea, but they couldn’t win the match, all they had was a draw. Burnley played an intelligent game in the match, immediately they equalised, and the match was 1.1. Burnley started playing a defensive game in the match, they didn’t give Chelsea breathing space in their defense, which really helped them.
The game proves that Chelsea haven't improved much. Even though their defense hasn't conceded many goals in the last few games, It hasnt been enough for Chelsea to solve their situation. Lost to 10-men Burnley at home is another low from an expensive talented team. Having a numerical advantage could still not make Chelsea grab the opportunity to win the game. The front line could not capitalize chances has also costed the team.

Burnley have the ability to adapt their tactics after going down to ten men may have caught Chelsea off guard. Instead of crumbling under pressure, Burnley showed resilience and organization, particularly in their defensive efforts. Despite Chelsea's superiority on paper, spirit and determination made the difference in the game. Burnley's equalizer likely shifted the momentum of the game, made it challenging for Chelsea to find openings and capitalize on their numerical advantage. Pochettino's tactics and substitutions seemed to have no impact to the display.
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I think Pochettino is just kind of confused right now. Chelsea had the opportunity to win the match. Burnley received two red cards in the match, one was for their coach, and the other was for their player. They should have made use of the opportunity that they had, but they missed it. I never expected Chelsea to draw today's match. I expected the match to be an easy win for Chelsea, but they couldn’t win the match, all they had was a draw. Burnley played an intelligent game in the match, immediately they equalised, and the match was 1.1. Burnley started playing a defensive game in the match, they didn’t give Chelsea breathing space in their defense, which really helped them.

Truly, it was disappointing to watch Chelsea settle for a draw at home to a mediocre Burnley side even worse, this "mediocre" team had a red card since the first half and they couldn't take advantage of it to give the win to their fans at home. It's just a terrible performance by Pochettino's boys and they have had many of such this season so its nothing new. To think Pochettino brought in new guys to strengthen the squad during the last transfer window. At this point, I'm sure Y'all will agree with me that Chelsea needs a new coach. They have to keep switching till they get the right now.
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Erik Ten Hag or Roberto De Zebri would do grand. But how good is Zebri if he handles a top club like Manchester United?

Yeah I have doubts about how capable De Zerbi would be about managing a much bigger team in the Premier League. He is shown as a candidate for Liverpool's next manager at the same time. However Brighton are the first team he is managing in this league now. Before this job the biggest team he managed was Shakhtar Donetsk.

Manchester United and Liverpool both had better be diligent about their next choices to not regret for that later on. There should definitely be better choices than De Zerbi for these teams as well.
MU or Liverpool should be able to get a coach with a better name and experience. if not maybe next season they will only have difficulty competing with City or Arsenal.
De Zerbi might be an alternative for Liverpool because there has been recognition from Xabi that he wants to stay at Leverkusen. We previously knew that Liverpool also seemed interested in Xabi because of his achievements which have brought extraordinary improvements to Leverkusen.
de zerbi? he will only make liverpool look like a joke, i'm not at all confident in his ability to handle a team like liverpool, what liverpool needs to replace jurgen klopp is someone who is friendly and understands every characteristic of the players he trains and nagelsmann seems to be a good fit, but it's spreading there are rumors that nagelsmann is taking a break from coaching, he hasn't announced how long but i quite like the way he coaches bayern, i imagine he will be quite successful at liverpool.
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Have you people notice that Chelsea formation in this match between Chelsea and Burnley, so I believe that what is problem of Chelsea is the coach, by right Chelsea suppose to defeat Burnley in this match because Vincent Kompany received red card for the half and the still they could not defeat Burnley
I think Pochettino is just kind of confused right now. Chelsea had the opportunity to win the match. Burnley received two red cards in the match, one was for their coach, and the other was for their player. They should have made use of the opportunity that they had, but they missed it. I never expected Chelsea to draw today's match. I expected the match to be an easy win for Chelsea, but they couldn’t win the match, all they had was a draw. Burnley played an intelligent game in the match, immediately they equalised, and the match was 1.1. Burnley started playing a defensive game in the match, they didn’t give Chelsea breathing space in their defense, which really helped them.
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⁠Facing reality I think Arsenal would finish 3rd as Man City would be able to defeat them tomorrow and that’ll be Arsenal dropping to 3rd place. They don’t have the high mentality yet and they might not be able to defeat clubs like Liverpool and City who have high mentality.
For tomorrow's match it is still a situation where both clubs have a chance to win and even I have a different view because in my opinion Arsenal could excel in this match even though they are playing away.
Currently several Manchester City defenders such as Kyle Walker, Akanji and Stones are likely to be unable to play in this match not to mention Ederson's injury for the main goalkeeper is still another problem for Manchester City.

Although we know the depth of the Manchester City squad is very good but still it can greatly interfere with their performance when the core players cannot be played and that could be a problem that occurs in tomorrow's match.

Arsenal are currently in good momentum and in good motivation to get points so with the absence of several Manchester City players for tomorrow's match it is certain that it will be maximized by Arsenal at this time especially in terms of their squad now more complex because their players (other than Timber) can be played.
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Have you people notice that Chelsea formation in this match between Chelsea and Burnley, so I believe that what is problem of Chelsea is the coach, by right Chelsea suppose to defeat Burnley in this match because Vincent Kompany received red card for the half and the still they could not defeat Burnley, the first goal with penalty and by right they suppose to protect the first goal by playing a defensive game, even when Burnley equalise the match to be 1:1 and they score again to be 2:1, everyone taught that Chelsea have defeated Burnley but they could not defend the second goal. So the problem is the players, I think they need keeper and more players.
What ever formation used by the team wouldn't matter a lot. Don't you see the gameplay of chelsea? it has no pattern at all and chelsea was randomly playing to attack its opponent which is also only playing with 10 players. The stupid things showed by chelsea when it was always conceded goals several minutes after the blues was scoring in this game.
Perhaps, chelsea was losing all of their focus and this is also the reason why the club played like a shitty club. To be honest, this stupid mistake can't be tolerated. Things were also even worse when stupid pochettino once again did the same mistake by allowing chalobach to enter the game.

It was also making the club concede another goal, which is the worst thing that I have ever seen. It seemed to me that if Chelsea defenders are so poor at dueling in the air, things are going even worse for Chelsea when it was trying so hard to win the game but failed.
There's nothing good in the way chelsea's playing the game. It's only showing another degrade which was also very bad for the club. The team is horrible, the coach is horrible, everything in chelsea is terrible to watch.

There is no doubt that supporters showed their disappointment by booing Poch and his players at the end of the game. Chelsea could not beat 10-man Burnley, which is a shame. We're bottled it, we're bottled job. The way chelsea playes the game is pretty much the same like the gameplay of burnley itself.
These clubs are in the same level at this moment.
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The quality and performance of Liverpool at this time we cannot doubt even though they previously continued to be hit by a storm of injuries including having to lose Salah, but in fact Liverpool were able to rise and now only Only the goal difference that separates the Reds from Arsenal in the Premier League standings, Klopp's ability to see the position of players and place them in other positions so far has helped Liverpool to continue to compete for the EPL trophy along with Arsenal and Manchester City, this season Liverpool deserve not to be underestimated because when 10 of their players are injured but they can still continue to compete in the championship, I think if that many injuries had happened to Arsenal and Manchester City of course we would see them out of the top 4 at this time.

Arsenal did have a pretty good performance and so far they are still stable in winning, but what you say is quite true because indeed Arteta has not really been able to raise the mentality of the Arsenal players at the moment, although now Arsenal are at the top of the table but as usual we will only see Arsenal end up in 2nd and 3rd position in end season, while to get the champion is still very difficult for them as happened last season.

Liverpool team have yes been hit with injury most of the time this season and you start to think that they’re not able to win the league but that’s going to be one hell of a dream. Yes this Liverpool  squad despite facing crazy injuries to major players, they still boast of a strong squad with quality depth in various positions as their backup players have proven to be trustworthy and reliable. Klopp is a tactical genius and his tactical acumen and ability to adapt his strategies to cope with the injury woes.

 ⁠Liverpool’s success will be majorly dependent on the form of the players when they return from injury. Yes and when you compare them and the other 2 clubs, you see that Liverpool have more advantage than being compared to the others as they have leas competitive fixture in this their final 10 fixtures.

 ⁠Arsenal are yes looking like they can be able to win the league but when compared to City and Liverpool I obviously think Arsenal will be finishing 3rd because they have a major challenge which will be defeating City and then they need to be able to fo past Chelsea and Spurs then Man United. These matches will be crucial for Arsenal to be able to get victory and I don’t think it can be a reality.

 ⁠Facing reality I think Arsenal would finish 3rd as Man City would be able to defeat them tomorrow and that’ll be Arsenal dropping to 3rd place. They don’t have the high mentality yet and they might not be able to defeat clubs like Liverpool and City who have high mentality.
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Have you people notice that Chelsea formation in this match between Chelsea and Burnley, so I believe that what is problem of Chelsea is the coach, by right Chelsea suppose to defeat Burnley in this match because Vincent Kompany received red card for the half and the still they could not defeat Burnley, the first goal with penalty and by right they suppose to protect the first goal by playing a defensive game, even when Burnley equalise the match to be 1:1 and they score again to be 2:1, everyone taught that Chelsea have defeated Burnley but they could not defend the second goal. So the problem is the players, I think they need keeper and more players.
Vincent Kompany was sent off and he's absence didn't matter, instead his team was possibly confident to play the Blues. I'm tiring of tendering my complaints to the team's board and on their verified social media platforms. Chelsea performance is humiliating and I don't fancy the style Mauricio Pochettino is bringing. One of the terrible performance was today's game at Stamford Bridge, Chelsea failed to beat 10 men on the pitch, instead the Blues was even lucky to not concede another goal because I've watch closely and see the thorough details.

Your comment made me laugh hard this night for saying you are tired of laying complains to their verified social media accounts but on a more serious note, this game against Burnley is one of the worst game of Chelsea because imagine 10 men Burnley giving Chelsea a hard time it's really so funny I must say. I don't think Pochettino can handle Chelsea anymore they really need a new coach to take over the managerial role if things can work in a different perspective for the club because watching them play today is really devastating.
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Have you people notice that Chelsea formation in this match between Chelsea and Burnley, so I believe that what is problem of Chelsea is the coach, by right Chelsea suppose to defeat Burnley in this match because Vincent Kompany received red card for the half and the still they could not defeat Burnley, the first goal with penalty and by right they suppose to protect the first goal by playing a defensive game, even when Burnley equalise the match to be 1:1 and they score again to be 2:1, everyone taught that Chelsea have defeated Burnley but they could not defend the second goal. So the problem is the players, I think they need keeper and more players.
Vincent Kompany was sent off and he's absence didn't matter, instead his team was possibly confident to play the Blues. I'm tiring of tendering my complaints to the team's board and on their verified social media platforms. Chelsea performance is humiliating and I don't fancy the style Mauricio Pochettino is bringing. One of the terrible performance was today's game at Stamford Bridge, Chelsea failed to beat 10 men on the pitch, instead the Blues was even lucky to not concede another goal because I've watch closely and see the thorough details.
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MU or Liverpool should be able to get a coach with a better name and experience. if not maybe next season they will only have difficulty competing with City or Arsenal.
De Zerbi might be an alternative for Liverpool because there has been recognition from Xabi that he wants to stay at Leverkusen. We previously knew that Liverpool also seemed interested in Xabi because of his achievements which have brought extraordinary improvements to Leverkusen.
After Xabi Alonso confirmed his stay at Leverkusen next season, of course, it closes all possibilities that exist for any team to sign Xabi Alonso next season, Liverpool are certainly in a high dilemma after previously Klopp stated this season is his last season at Liverpool, so far we have not seen any new coach candidate who is indeed the most ideal to coach Liverpool next season,   Apart from the speculation that continues to be created by the media without any confirmation from Liverpool.

Currently the media continues to link Ruben Amorim (sporting), Thiago Motta (Bologna), Roberto De Zerbi (Brighton), Unai Emery (Aston Villa) and even so far there are 12 names of coaches who are predicted by the media to be able to replace Klopp next season, but from the names of the existing names, of course I will personally choose Unai Emery to be Liverpool coach next season,  Because after all, Unai Emery has good experience in building teams so far, yes, maybe Aston Villa is starting to fall at this time because of their inconsistency which contains makeshift players, but I think if Unai Emery can coach a team like Liverpool that contains great players, of course Unai Emery will be able to continue Klopp glory later in Liverpool.
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We are talking about the possibility of the Premier League to have an extra quota for the Champions League next season. But still the interesting part is the total number of CL titles achieve by English teams is like the same as Real Madrid's winning number.  Grin

This shows that PL teams aren't the most successful ones despite playing in the most prestigious European league according to statistics. I don't know this additional quota would help change this data for their advantage either. But one thing is sure that they will be more dominant in numbers in the group stage compared to other European leagues in this case. There is nothing guaranteed yet though. Let's see if they can earn this first.
I don't sure Premier League will have an extra quota for Champion League next season, although become more interested league the quota for UCL depend on their teams performance in champion league.
What for premier league become most compete league if their participants easily eliminated in group phase such as Manchester United and Newcastle United performance in this season.
I think its ideal with four teams participants or quota for premier league team qualify to champion league, if the teams participants has inconsistency performance get chance to reduce four teams quota become three teams in the future regarding Serie A has moment with three participants having playing in Champion League.
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