Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 274. (Read 71201 times)

Yes indeed, at least Arteta has managed to make Arsenal have a performance that continues to improve from season to season, of course the effort is a great effort for good results in the future too. Because after all, next season Liverpool have a new coach and also several other big teams which of course, they will all need time to really be able to make the team better. So yes, with that period at least I still confident Arsenal will still be a candidate team for the Premier League title for next season. But indeed, of course competitive competition will still occur, but it seems Arsenal still have a better chance because after all, Arteta has the quality and ability to make Arsenal get the trophy.

If you turn back the journey of the Premier League this season, actually compared to Manchester United, of course Arsenal first celebrated their championship trophy this season, Arsenal won the Community Shield trophy last August by beating Manchester City in the final match at that time, so if you compare the minor trophy as a reference to Manchester United's success this season compared to Arsenal,  Of course in my opinion Arsenal is far ahead of Manchester United, Arsenal opened the 2023/2024 season with the Community Shield champion trophy and also ended the season in the runner up position, while Manchester United won the FA but actually fell in the Premier League standings this season.

Arsenal performance in the last two seasons is of course very fantastic even though they have not been able to win the Premier League trophy, but at least now they have a strong enough mentality in the championship competition, Arteta has managed to lift the performance and mentality of the Arsenal players so that they are tough enough to face every opponent that exists, honestly maybe even for Manchester United who are indeed said to be better than Arsenal after they won the FA trophy this seasons,It is still doubtful to be able to rise next season.

Even Manchester United completed the season with a title despite having a quite poor season. But Arsenal still couldn't after all that high effort.    I'm really sad for them honestly. Arteta has started to make difference after some time he joined Arsenal. They are competing for the league title much harder than Liverpool for 2 seasons you know.

This has been the closest time ever to becoming the champions. At least they are making progress. But next season, I hope to see a title from them finally. 20 years... It is really a huge period of time without being champions despite being one of the top teams of the league.

The coach is not only in charge when his team is playing, but must ensure that each player has a good relationship with other players. The selfishness of the Manchester United players was a result of Ten Hag not being able to manage them well. Ten Hag firmness will enable his players to reduce their selfishness. Several Manchester United players have very good qualities but they are not able to perform optimally because Ten Hag is unable to develop a strategy that can make them develop further. Success in winning the FA Cup trophy does not guarantee that Manchester United's performance will be better next season, a change of coach needs to be made so that Manchester United can provide competition for the top four positions.

These fans know nothing about Longevity to be very honest. All they want to see is quick success. Last season Manchester United played good football, I can remember the game against Barcelona in the European Europa League Competition as Manchester United went on to defeat them, when you watch Erik Ten Hag amd his tactics during games like this, you'd see he is a good coach. Challenges do come but the truth is, this is a good manager with proper knowledge of the football thing.
Most of the comments I read are inaccurate and I careless, ask me if I give two fvcks and I'll say hell no! I understand very well they dislike Erik Ten Hag.

Jose Mourinho won two trophies all his years, but Erik Ten Hag has done that in his first two seasons with three finals, these are good signs all that's needed are good and qualified lads to execute the job for him.
Erik Ten Hag also has a higher percentage when you check the winning rate for this manager within them first two seasons.

Take a good look out there if you've got good enough options to replace Erik Ten Hag and name one. If you can then, they can go ahead to sack him. ( Please don't mention Mauricio Pochetino and  Thomas Tuchel. Not even Roberto De Zebri fits in )

I don't want to sound opposing to the decision of Chelsea management who sacked Mauricio Pochentino last week and now have announced that former Leicester City manager Enzo Maresca will be the club's new coach but I can't just help it. Mauricio Pochentino without doubt didn't improve the club's performance as much as many of us believed he'll do but considering Chelsea's performance in the last two seasons before the arrival of the Argentine manager, I think there was a progress with Pochentino so why not exercise a little patience with the young manager and see what he does with the team come next season.
Hopefully for the club, Maresca goes on to give them the desired result they want as a club in the nearest future but I don't think he's going to bring instant improvement to the club

Currently the news about Ten Hag being fired is still just a rumor. But now we will welcome two new coaches who will join Liverpool and Chelsea. Here comes Arne Slot and Enzo Maresca. These two new coaches can be said to be quite young. Arne Slot has to face pressure and expectations from fans who expect him to be Klopp's successor. And Enzo Maresca is expected to be able to bring Chelsea to be better next season. I am very excited to see the change of coach because we will see a different performance this season. I haven't read much about Arne Slot but I read the news saying that Enzo Maresca is the current Leicester coach who succeeded in bringing Leicester back to playing in the Premier League.

I think when evaluating ETH time at Man United, it will be very safe to check both last seasons and check all what he has achieved for the club, how he approaches games and the players available. You will see that he approaches game and get the wins you think they don’t stand a chance to get and the FA Cup win is one major reality of this factor. ⁠I understand where the pains of most fans are because of them not being able to make it at least to the top 4 even with the set of players they have and they believe ETH hasn’t done enough yet.

 Well when compared to Jose Mourinho Man United squad, I think ETH has a better squad but jose Mourinho had a better impact than ETH man United squad. ⁠Well as reported the board will be taking a decision on his stand if to keep him or axe him. Whatever decison they take I think they will have a lot of factors to consider and they have to do that duly so as not to throw the club into more gutters than it already is at this time.

 Sacking Ten Haag might not be a bad idea but the board shouldn’t forget that there’s a need for stability as that will help this team be able to keep challenging for more trophies. Well they can preach that to the new manager if they eventually decide to let Eth go.

Oh, really? But I shouldn't be surprised about that in fact. Because a young coach was all that they were seeking. Enzo Maresca might really be a good move though. He has just climbed to the PL with Leicester.

By the way when we consider that he worked for Manchester City as an assistant manager in last season also, I expect a good work by him. He might be like Arteta v2 maybe.    Chelsea has a very young squad. Only 2 players are above the age of 30 (Thiago Silva is about to leave too). Leicester also has a young squad and Enzo Maresca handled it well. I have good expectations from him with Chelsea too. 

Yeah Enzo maresca has had good experience coaching Leicester city, I believe things will change at the Stamford bridge next season with his presence. Pochettino style of play was not helping Chelsea win games, so it was a good thing for the management to recognize that they need to change the coach, because it was obviously looking like he was lacking the sophistication of turning around things for good, I see that a lot of Chelsea fans are happy with the news.  But for Enzo maresca to start well for next season, he needs to sign new players to swagger up a new team that will rekindle the winning ways Chelsea used to enjoy, because going with this current crop of players Chelsea have now, he will do little.

That is the weird part, a lot of fans and even the management is confused, I mean firing the person who won the FA Cup is not an easy decision, if he finished top four this year as well then he would have stayed, but dude played a terrible season, not only he finished the league 8th, which is disgusting for United level of money spending, but also he was last at the UCL groups as well. He did TERRIBLE at two competitions, and just won one of them.

If he was even remotely decent in another competition, like maybe not even top four but like 5th, or even maybe even 6th, which would not be easy at all but wouldn't be all that terrible, he may keep his job. But finishing 8th at the league? That's just not good at all.

Lol..... I can agree with the word manage here as even Manchester City played better, it's just that Manchester utilized the chances they had during the first half of the game. Not just the FA Cup Competition, when you want to evaluate Erik Ten Hag, make sure you make good use of the both seasons he has been a coach here.
A new season hasn't kicked off yet, I don't quite comprehend most of the things written.

I won't say that, but they're not up to the standards of Erik Ten Hag.  Jose Mourinho and other managers who have managed the club did well but last season, we saw upgrades from all they did.

They give him a chance or not that's them business, I see what they're trying to do, bringing in a puppet as head coach who they can control. But then, these names linked with Manchester United are not even better than Erik Ten Hag.

Manchester United is currently not only the coach that needs to be evaluated, but also the players. It seems that players also show a selfish attitude in every match. All players want to be the straiker, and hope he is the one who scores the goals. They should not work in their position. Maybe Ten Hag is not able to manage these players at this time so there needs to be an evaluation or rotation of coaches for next season.

I understand that you said under Alex Ferguson Manchester United did not have good results initially. But we could see that he was trying to improve the club and not thinking about bringing his favorite players into the club, right? You can't deny, he was bringing in players that he actually thought the club needed. The players who he liked before. And recently Man United has made a lot of transfers that did not work out at all as expected. They have literally wasted money and did not get any return. Paul Pogba, Harry Maguire, Antony few of them. All of these were record-breaking deals if I'm not wrong. And none of them worked out. Paul Pogba had to be let go from the club for free and both Harry Maguire and Antony are still causing problems for Manchester United.

I think Tuchel might be a good experiment, who knows Tuchel still has his magic for his first season just like he did when he handled Chelsea. But the point is, sacking Erik ten Hag or keeping Erik ten Hag I think Manchester United will still be difficult to be able to enter into a candidate team for the Premier League title. But back again, if the new Manchester United coach will have great magic, then of course Manchester United will quickly transform to be even better in the Premier League. Considering next season that Manchester United will also play in the Europa League, then of course the selection of a new coach is an important factor to make the team have a great performance next season.

Source: https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1795425560484798708

So the deal has already been finalized, this was probably a good decision made by Chelsea. I cannot say for sure if it was a good decision or not because I have no idea how he is going to perform with Chelsea as a manager. If he is able to bring in good results then of course he is a great signing. But if he is unable to bring in good results or results that are expected, it is going to be a problem. Of course, Chelsea will have to pay compensation. But whatever happens, if he is able to bring in good results, I think it is going to be great for Chelsea. And I am pretty sure that he is definitely going to start better compared to how Chelsea started in the last season.

I think he must have run out of chances already. He should not have guaranteed his future in the team by winning a single cup. He cannot manage the team properly. Considering Manchester United's past situation, they are a team that is always hungry for success and they always want to succeed. The fans are also fans who aim for success. One of the obstacles in front of Manchester United is Ten Hag and I think he should be sent from the team now.

And Manchester United was impressive last season but this season all they do is lose matches and to some extent it was as if they were becoming worse than chelsea, them winning the FA was a miracle and it was an unexpected situation that they were able to put run us. True that something is wrong with Manchester United management and couple with the fact that their players are always going on injuries affected the club seriously and if it is about about money they spent they did not spend half of it compared to what Chelsea spent. If coach will try to do their work and that is exactly what Wenger did, and I know when the management spends money they expect a better result. Let’s assume that they tried when they won the FA cup but they need to do more, I know Ten is trying is best but he needs to do more.

Out of every season this season was the worst for united it got to a point in the premier league that they don’t have any serious impact on the premier league this season, last season they were able to finish top four but this season was a different one for Manchester United they finished on the 8 position. So it shows that they were zero improvement from Manchester United after the previous season, maybe next season will be better worse and good and that will result into an average performance. Or either way they will get worse to perform. Am sure Ten is working on something.

When the Chelsea owners sacked Pochettino and said if they would prioritize a young coach to replace Pochettino, I thought Xavi and De Zerbi would be strong candidates to bring changes to the Chelsea squad next season, especially since both young coaches continue to be linked with Chelsea after they no longer coach their previous club, but instead now we see if Enzo Maresca who managed to get Leicester City back promoted To the Premier League will be the next Chelsea coach, maybe it is not too difficult for Chelsea to get Enzo Maresca from leicester city because it will be very difficult for a coach to refuse a big team who wants to sign him, because indeed offers like those coming from Chelsea will not come twice in his career.

Here We Go..!!
Finally, after difficulties in getting an agreement, now Chelsea have officially made Enzo Maresca as coach next season and Chelsea have reached an agreement to pay some compensation to Leicester City for the occurrence of the agreement, next season Enzo Maresca will officially coach Chelsea with a contract duration of 5 years until June 2029 with an option to extend the contract until 2030.

Even though they managed to win the FA Cup, the club management's decision to carry out an evaluation was the right decision. Club management needs to evaluate Ten Hag's overall performance in one or two full seasons. This can enable them to make wise decisions. Just because he won the FA Cup doesn't mean Ten Hag should be retained. But some fans have grown to like Ten Hag and hope the club keeps him for next season. Some other fans think Ten Hag should be sacked because United's current performance is not the Manchester United they want to see.