Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 274. (Read 58730 times)

The premier league is not as tough as many of the fans believe it to be. Before Pep and Klopp, the premier league was filled with teams of the same level and that's why it looked very competitive.
When Pep came he exposed the league a lot. Many people may argue with this but the fact is the fact. This is Pep's 8th season in the EPL and in those 7 years his team has won the EPL 5 times, losing it only twice and he still has a chance of winning it again this season.
We can all see that the moment a manager knows what he's doing he owns the league. The premier league is not all that, it just has a better PR. I can agree that it's a better-managed league too and they have more money, that's why you can see teams going from teams like Milan to Nottingham Forest, or from Sevilla to Newcastle.

The thing is most people that watch the EPL don't watch other leagues, so they run with the narrative that the EPL is the best league in the world. The two biggest teams in the world are Real Madrid and Barcelona, not English teams.

The EPL is known for it's "Big 6", but is there really a Big 6 though?
Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester United, Tottenham, Chelsea.
What is big about Tottenham and Arsenal? If these clubs were in any league that was not the EPL would they be rated as big clubs?

But united's chance to qualify for the UCL is getting even bigger since EPL got additional spot to participate in the UCL next season. Let's say that if there will be around 5 candidates to be eligible for the UCL next season only from premier league. It means that if manchester united has greater chance to make it happen.
United will be able to pass all of those fixtures. I see that Chelsea and Newcastle are not even better compared to Manchester United. I meant if it's not yet clear which league will get it. I saw that the EPL was qualifying for the additional spot for UCL, but it changed again.
I can't also predict before we see the final result how many points were acquired by any European competitions. Manchester united's chance will be slightly higher to qualify for UCL if EPL will get additional spot.
This totally depends on the result from the current season

Have you people notice that Chelsea formation in this match between Chelsea and Burnley, so I believe that what is problem of Chelsea is the coach, by right Chelsea suppose to defeat Burnley in this match because Vincent Kompany received red card for the half and the still they could not defeat Burnley, the first goal with penalty and by right they suppose to protect the first goal by playing a defensive game, even when Burnley equalise the match to be 1:1 and they score again to be 2:1, everyone taught that Chelsea have defeated Burnley but they could not defend the second goal. So the problem is the players, I think they need keeper and more players.

We are talking about the possibility of the Premier League to have an extra quota for the Champions League next season. But still the interesting part is the total number of CL titles achieve by English teams is like the same as Real Madrid's winning number. 

This shows that PL teams aren't the most successful ones despite playing in the most prestigious European league according to statistics. I don't know this additional quota would help change this data for their advantage either. But one thing is sure that they will be more dominant in numbers in the group stage compared to other European leagues in this case. There is nothing guaranteed yet though. Let's see if they can earn this first.

It is difficult for a coach to be able to maintain or make a team even better for a team as big as Liverpool.
For example, Manchester United, which was promoted by Alex Furguson, has so far not been able to bring the team back to its previous performance even though they have had to change coaches a lot.
So it is also possible for Liverpool to do that, I am quite pessimistic that there will be a coach who will be able to make Liverpool maintain performance stability or be better than this season for the first season of coaching.

Xabi Alonso has confirmed that he will stay with Leverkusen next season, which means Liverpool must hire another coach.
De Zerbi is a good coach, but I doubt he can handle a top team, because that hasn't been proven.

I believe Zerbi is capable  enoughof handling the big club if he can lead Brighton to the top four, but if they finish even lower than they did last season, and he is not worth signing as a new coach by the big club. I'd rather not call him an overrated coach.
I must be honest with my opinion, but let us wait until the end of the season to see how well he is performing at the club right now. I'm thinking that Liverpool should look for someone who can help the club win a lot of trophies.
Zerbi's history of winning prestigious trophies remains zero. I'd rather take Mourinho or Conte than him.


It would be far better for United to sign Allegri or Conte, and the club could also bring back Mourinho, who has previously won the Europa League.
De zerbi is a ridiculous choice that was also overrated. I never thought he had accomplished anything great, and all of the positive comments about him were completely out of proportion.

MU or Liverpool should be able to get a coach with a better name and experience. if not maybe next season they will only have difficulty competing with City or Arsenal.
De Zerbi might be an alternative for Liverpool because there has been recognition from Xabi that he wants to stay at Leverkusen. We previously knew that Liverpool also seemed interested in Xabi because of his achievements which have brought extraordinary improvements to Leverkusen.

Yeah I have doubts about how capable De Zerbi would be about managing a much bigger team in the Premier League. He is shown as a candidate for Liverpool's next manager at the same time. However Brighton are the first team he is managing in this league now. Before this job the biggest team he managed was Shakhtar Donetsk.

Manchester United and Liverpool both had better be diligent about their next choices to not regret for that later on. There should definitely be better choices than De Zerbi for these teams as well.

UEFA associations club coefficients ranking:
Italy 17.714 points
Germany 16.357 points
England 16.250 points

The 2 countries with the highest points will get 1 additional spot for the Champions League next season.
Currently there are 5 clubs from the Premier League still competing in all European competitions, while there are only 3 from Bundesliga.

UEFA rules only allow a maximum of 5 clubs from each country to compete in the Champions League, but these rules do not apply if,
For example: Mancity won the Champions League but their position in the league at the end of the season was ranked 7th (1st to 5th UCL and 6th EL),
then there will be 6 representatives from the Premier League to join the Champions League next season including Mancity.
And if Mancity win the Champions League, and they finish in the top 5 (league) = England representatives will still be 5.

And if Liverpool wins the Europa League, it will be considered the same as the Mancity case above.
Because Liverpool will almost certainly be in the top 4 in the league at the end of the season.
So, it is still possible for 7 clubs from England to take part in the Champions League if Mancity wins UCL, Liverpool wins EL and both of the teams are not ranked in the top 5 (league)

With the new format, it will indeed be very possible if the EPL team does that it's just that for now I see is what if in the end there are new format rules when adding Champions League slots but this season Liverpool who are in competition in the EPL for the championship race (systematically in the top 4) and they become champions in the Europa Legaue because they are now competing in the quarter-finals and the big chance of winning is still very much there for now.

When the automatic slot for the Europa League champion (if Liverpool wins) whether there will indeed be additions from other clubs or not because in the end we can see it even become 6 slots if the new rules are 5 EPL clusters in the Champions League as well as the Europa League champion who is automatically included in the Champions League the following season.

Is this also possible or are only 5 slots still used?
Because if it is only 5 slots, I think all leagues are still possible, especially for last season we saw in La Liga who got 5 slots and the previous 2 seasons there were clubs from the Bundesliga who got it.

The Premier League will most likely get 1 additional spot for the Champions League next season, depending on the achievements of the English clubs in all European competitions this season.
So the 5th position in the league shall join in the Champions League and the 6th position in the Europa League.
Manutd still has a big chance to take part in European competitions, because England has 5 clubs competing in all European competitions now.

If you look at the statistics and current standings, West Ham is far superior to Newcastle. After several matches, Newcastle got bad results, now they are stranded in 10th place in the current standings, even though at the start of the season they played quite well, it's just that they don't have enough players. quality so that several of their important players were injured, Howe was unable to rotate players well and ended up getting unsatisfactory results this season and Newcastle must be able to accept that.

They haven't really recovered because from the last five matches alone they have still suffered two defeats, currently Newcastle doesn't look any better and West Ham also often draw and defend so it's not surprising that from the last two matches they got a draw, I think playing at Newcastle's home ground doesn't mean Newcastle can beat West Ham just like that because they are good enough and play optimally to maintain their position in the standings, I think the result will be a draw but it's possible that if Newcastle appeared more confident they could win narrowly against West Ham

The quality and performance of Liverpool at this time we cannot doubt even though they previously continued to be hit by a storm of injuries including having to lose Salah, but in fact Liverpool were able to rise and now only Only the goal difference that separates the Reds from Arsenal in the Premier League standings, Klopp's ability to see the position of players and place them in other positions so far has helped Liverpool to continue to compete for the EPL trophy along with Arsenal and Manchester City, this season Liverpool deserve not to be underestimated because when 10 of their players are injured but they can still continue to compete in the championship, I think if that many injuries had happened to Arsenal and Manchester City of course we would see them out of the top 4 at this time.

Arsenal did have a pretty good performance and so far they are still stable in winning, but what you say is quite true because indeed Arteta has not really been able to raise the mentality of the Arsenal players at the moment, although now Arsenal are at the top of the table but as usual we will only see Arsenal end up in 2nd and 3rd position in end season, while to get the champion is still very difficult for them as happened last season.

Newcastle will welcome West Ham United as the opening match of week 30 after the international break.
In the first match of the season at the London Stadium, West Ham United and Newcastle drew 2-2.
As for the results of the round 30 match, we cannot be certain even though there is a chance for West Ham United after I studied it.

Newcastle wants 3 points and their desire is very appropriate because Newcastle failed to win in the last two matches.
According to circumstances, West Ham does not want to fail even though in two Premier League matches they only shared points against lower-class teams and were held to a draw by Aston Villa.

It will be a top work by Emery if Aston Villa finish the season in top 4. Because this was never Aston Villa's main goal at the beginning of the season. But here we are witnessing another 'Emery effect'.    He is really good at carrying average teams to much higher levels. Doing this in the most quality league realy deserves applause.

However their remaining fixture includes really challenging matches such as Manchester City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool. Besides both of Tottenham and Manchester United have a missing match to play also.

Do you think Emery will manage to complete this mission by a CL qualification?    I think they deserve it.

schedule for Aston Villa match against Chelsea is still very far away and changes could occur such as injured players who always provide surprises.
If there are no changes between the two teams, I'm not too sure if Chelsea will be able to defend their goal against Aston Villa, who are currently in a much stronger condition than Chelsea and without thinking about anything, everyone will definitely bet on Aston Villa winning.
and regarding the Arsenal vs Liverpool match, perhaps it is too early to discuss this match because both teams are both in a positive trend so I won't be too sure about whatever results I say at this time, but I hope Liverpool can be at the top of the standings, beating Arsenal.

Maybe facing Chelsea isn't that difficult for them because Chelsea performance is not good for this session. they turn into unstable team for this session, so that situation Aston villa will be able to get 3 points on villa park at 28 April 2024. While Arsenal and Liverpool, even they play at emirates, Arsenal is on fire right now, Aston villa will face difficulties to get 3 points, we don't know what the future holds, their players really struggled on this session, maybe there will be injuries to their core players which makes their performance decrease and lost when meet Liverpool on villa park.

Aston Villa has to face many difficult teams with potential losing points, against Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool is not easy match and I don't sure will Villa can get three points against Liverpool and Arsenal?
For Chelsea seems not problem and the same for Brighton Albion, many crucial left matches fighting for top fourth race and Tottenham Hotspur still has the same difficult opponent teams against Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City.
So Manchester United will take chance to finish on top fourth or Aston Villa will proof their achievement become big four team for playing in Champion League next season.

in fact currently Liverpool has to face the same/repeated problem since the start of the season with many or many of their main players being injured.
And Kloop has been able to overcome this problem so far, so I won't underestimate Liverpool in the title race even though many of their main players are injured.

Everyone's desires will be different, but I think it will be very difficult for Arsenal to win the Premier League this season, even in percentage terms, between Liverpool and Man City, I put Arsenal at the bottom of the list.
My reason is quite simple, this team hasn't had a good mentality since last season and I don't think Arteta has been able to fix that this season.

United also still have tough games against Newcastle, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal. Tottenham still has 1 match left against City and United will only face mediocre teams. I think United will have to work hard if they want to get fourth place. They are 6 points behind Tottenham and 9 points behind Aston Villa. They also still have some tough games ahead. I think position 4 will be a competition between Tottenham and Aston Villa. United's chances are very small. It looks like they will not play in international competitions next season.