Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 310. (Read 58534 times)

It was exactly same thing with Chelsea from last season, player's they brought in had difficulty playing well and doing very well as they all camin into a team who couldn't thrive at all.
Onana is in dame position, Manchester United are not themselves so far this season, it uas affected not just the player's but also the manager and the club.

Some blames can be sent to him, some to Erik Ten Hag and also has to be due to Injuries that has affected the manager. These Injury crises has also led to worries and the manager has faced difficulties selecting his side.

Onana's criticism from fans is not his fault, but a result of the general team's performance. Onana before now in his previous teams was as good as ever, he won awards and made good name for himself. His move to Manchester United and his performance afterwards surprised everyone because suddenly, he began to concede consistently and it was disappointing for the club as a whole.

 Do not blame Onana for his flops, Manchester United right now needs reformation, their defense, midfield, attack and team management as a whole needs to be fixed. Hopefully, they'd work on themselves and bring back the fighting spirit Onana experienced in his last teams, and maybe by the we'll see the best of Onana once again.

As a result of these mistakes, Chelsea can no longer play at the top of the league. Moreover, they cannot get sufficient performance from the players for whom they pay high transfer fees. As a result, if they do not comply with the financial rules, they cannot transfer players. If such a situation happens, they will not be able to easily regain their old form in the Premier League.

That's what it looks like, Manchester City coming top of the Premier League table soonest after they must have won their next match, Liverpool second, and Arsenal, third.
We might see the aforementioned teams atop the league standings once more in this season's Premier League as it was last season. They are all putting up a strong show that might get them all into the Champions League next season.

Actually I respect all opinions about bad criticism of Onana but why don't they try to look at Onana's past and how Onana's performance once saved Manchester United and I also wonder why people still punish Onana with criticism or blame Onana while MU's defense deserves to be criticized. blame it because the goalkeeper does not only work alone to secure the goal but the defenders are very important who will help the goalkeeper to remain safe from every attack.
I agree with your opinion that the absence of Lisandro Martinez is very influential because it is very clear that when he was injured he couldn't perform, his defensive performance was very bad, while Lisandro Martinez was really relied on by Erik Ten Hag.

This opportunity for Erik Ten Hag is also a very tough job to have to look for alternative players who can help the defense become stronger and the goalkeeper more confident.

I assume that Todd Boehly might still give Pochettino a chance to bring Chelsea better, maybe he will be retained until the end of this season, if he still hasn't made a positive contribution to growing Chelsea's performance on the standings I think Todd will also think again and make the decision to fire Pochettino.

On the other hand, Todd may not yet have a candidate to replace Pochettino as coach of Chlesea team, so yes there is no choice to fire in a hurry, I think this reason is much more reasonable, however, it cannot make hasty decisions in this situation to determine Chelsea's future.

IMO onana was only being helped by his luck since his career in the professional football. How can someone who has slow reflect like him become a professional goal keeper? it doesn't even make sense to see that. MU has been conceded more than 50 goals and i expect it to be very close to the 90 goals till the end of season.
Manchester is just manchester united. It's a team which has been managed by an amateur coach. I personally consider ten hag as an ameteur coach rather than a professional coach. It's caused by it can be seen from how poor he was managing the set up in manchester united.

Ten hag was also very bad in the scouting the players too. More than 150 millions wasted for onana, mount and hojlund but the result is really dissatisfied me. The only good thing if the attacking line was able helping the club to win the game even though manchester united was always conceded a lot of goals.
It's not acceptable to see that the poor performance from manchester united. Im hoping that united to sort out it all by sacking onana and buy new defenders and goal keeper. This is the only best solution to fix all of issues in the club.
Onana was a flop and he deserves to be benched.

Nunez has now stepped up on the role as Salah is absent and if you see the game against Arsenal, you’ll know his presence was missed. Yes when he got on the game had a different shape and the boys played more well in attack and that alone shows the effect of Nunez, he's played Salah's role well and i don't think they’ll miss Mo much cause of that.

 I think going forward the partnership of Nunez and Salah will be one great one to see especially as they’re both fast paced players and currently at the top of their game. If these players are both played alongside each other I think they’ll be helping Liverpool cruise to victory. Yes I will love to see Nunez have more game time in the Liverpool shirt as it’s seeming like he’s now overcome his fears and has gained massive confidence needed for a player to succeed in a big club like Liverpool.

I agree with what you said. Pochettino and Todd Boehly have been a really bad combination for Chelsea this season. In fact I think in the last few seasons Chelsea have really made a lot of silly mistakes. They spent a lot of money to buy players who turned out to be just low class players. I don't understand how these agents can cheat the Chelsea management to make a profit from some of those low class players. I think apart from the coaching factor, Chelsea has really made a loss in buying players. That's worse than a team with limited finances getting players within their budget.

Pochettino's seat must already be at risk. That performance against Wolves was just horrible. Did you hear what Chelsea and Wolves fans were chanting together during the match? 

However do you think the problem is actually Pochettino? I mean it feels like things won't change very much no matter who they bring to the position now.    Because the real problem is Boehly in my opinion. He isn't a good manager. The only thing he knows about is to spend a lot of money to try to improve the squad quality desperately. I can't say he has been good at it either generally.

You blame Andrea Onana when Manchester United fails to keep clean sheet, but you praise the defenders because of the clean sheet they had during the last game. Don't they both work hand in hand?
Just to wrap it up, in the absence of Lisandro Martinez, Manchester United defense has got to be the worst defense in the Premier League Competition. This shows how important Lisandro Martinez is to Manchester United. His absence now once again is a huge problem for Erik Ten Hag and the United defense.

I won't lie, I had the same idea but je is in charge, if Manchester United have had a good defensive system that'll complement Onana for
two to three, then you'll see how he gradually picks up a good form.

I think that keep trusting him to be a manchester united coach was obviously a crime. Onana never made any improvement and he was getting star syndrome otherwise. It can be seen from his attitude to the his teammates in the AFCON. I have seen that a few times onana blamed his teammates for his mistake.
His attitude is questionable right now. Im also concerning about how poor his performance is, lack of response, lack of attitude, lack of respects to the his tema mate. No reason for manchester united to keep this goal keeper but ten hag had been scammed by intermilan to buy him with a very expensive price.

It's not the right decision to keep him to play in the club much longer. Onana needs to be benched and manchester united need to recruit somene who can perform like vicario or city's goal keeper. Onana was obviously useless goal keeper ever joined in MU.


Holidy would never help him coz onana never had intention to improve himself. Im seeing this caused by onana has been so terrible and this is the main problem. He never able to keep his performance better. I see no reason to keep him in the squad.
Manchester was just suiciding itself by keep him much longer in the squad. I can't even put respect to the ten hag caused by this. Many fans were demanding him to leave from the club.

MU needs to get a better goal keeper than him.

the results of training graham potter and pochetino are not much different. both from the total number of points and in terms of ranking in the standings table. the difference is only that pochetino has not been fired and pochetino has a big name and has coached big clubs like totenham hotspur and PSG.

It was not so optimal as you said. The situation was already bad enough, but it was made even worse by the fact that Nunez was missing. Among the players, there was not a single individual who possessed the skill to dribble the ball and score unassisted. Nunez was really working caused by he was fast but since liverpool doesn't have him play for the club and this has become the main problem that needs to be solved as soon as possible.
Im sure that if liverpool would able to play better as long as nunez and salah was there but liverpool needs to let three points go away from club caused by it was not performing good enough in this match. The situation would be different if there were nunez and salah in the club but since it's already passed and we must move one with the hope to see liverpool to be in a better form compared to the match against arsenal. Liverpool needs to have nunez and salah in the big match against the strong team. The match against liverpool has proven that if liverpool was not able creating effective counter attack without good attackers.
Salah and nunez have become the key owned by liverpool to win any games. Missing them will be another disaster for the club caused by i do know that how important those guys for the club. This is why people are always skeptic when club played without them all.

Onana is a good goalkeeper; he simply is not good enough to keep for Manchester United and believe me there’s no crime in that. The goalkeeper is struggling to perform or show quality signs under pressure at old Trafford and As so far conceded as much as 45+ goals this seasons already

A shameful Caf afcon tournament as well; perhaps holiday would help the Cameroonian

The case of Onana seems to be very drastic and will likely gona continue so for a long time. Since the media has marked him and he is now the topic of the media, whether good or bad. What I mean is Onana cannot be exempted by the media. So, Onana should try to manage the situation and remain relevant.

Onana is not a bad goalie but what I will say without fear is that the standard of performance of Onana is reducing gradually. I don't know if he will return to form any moment.

Onana performance has reduced quite poorly since he got to Manchester United and this is quite worrisome. He’s not performing up to the expectations they had while signing him as he has kept on conceding goals. Not just conceding goals but conceding cheap goals and this is a big worry for a club like Manchester United as this is making them look very poor. In the weekend win to West Ham, he was lucky to keep a clean sheet because he had a rock solid defense in that match who were able to cover up on some open tracks for him.

 Well I think he should be kept on the bench a while then hsed in leas competitive matches till he’s able to gain his confidence to stand between the sticks for Manchester United then will he be considered as one of the force to reckon with. Right now he’s just a cajole of himself to other EPL clubs and others across Europe and Africa too.

I do agree that putting all the blame on VVD and Alison doesn't make sense, the game is not played with 2 people, it's played with 11, and no other player looked good out there, including VVD and Alison of course, they didn't look good neither, but they weren't the only ones, so it is not really a bad situation. I think it has to be something that needs to change, and I feel like it may take some time for them to recover from this emotionally but with Salah coming back, they should be doing better eventually as well.

I believe that they are going to do fine, they just need to focus on what they could do better, and for that to happen they need to look back and watch the game tape and see what went wrong and fix those, or realize their mistakes.

Chelsea is like a team without any purpose lol, they spend a lot of money but their performance is still the same as the previous season meaning there is no change to what they have done so far. Pochettino must be responsible for all the bad results achieved by Chelsea under his coaching. He can be blamed for failing to bring about the changes that were entrusted to him.

For this reason, it is possible that at the end of this season he will receive a letter from Todd Boehly because whatever it is, Chelsea performance under Pochettino coaching is very bad. Big changes have not been able to take Chelsea in a better direction and indeed it all lies in the coach performance because he failed to raise the quality of his players.

When Brentford scored the first goal of the match, I was thinking that Manchester City will be facing the same fate that befell Liverpool, it was not long that the Cities levelled up the match at half time. Second half then ushered in the destruction for Brentford. The next time Brentford will hear the name Phil Foden, they will take to their hills to avoid a repeat of the destruction that he did to them. Only him scored the 3 goals that reduced the once energetic Brentford to rubbles, thereby sending them closer to the relegation zone that everyone is doing their best to avoid.

Liverpool was not left out in the pain that greeted Machester's 1-3 win against Brentford. With this win, Machester City will do their best to win their outstanding match to top the league with 1 point lead over Liverpool. We cannot say that the season is over yet but it is looking like Pep Guardiola is not ready to allow Jurgen Klopp end his contract at Anfield with a trophy.