Liverpool match and Chelsea that just finished some minutes ago, what I understand that makes Chelsea to loss their matche is because of their defence is very open and when looking at their striker also is not even active, Benoît Badiashile and Thiago Silva needs to undergo more training for defensive, because Axel Disasi and Ben Chilwell, four of this players are the one that's makes Liverpool to defeat Chelsea and assuming Darwin Núñez scored the penalty I think the score would have being five goals for a big club like Chelsea, thank you
C. Nkunku for making Chelsea to at least score one goal, and without the kind of ball C. Nkunku those Chelsea players wouldn't have scored one goal
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The worse Chelsea were this year, the better Liverpool were, so I don't think they have much of a chance. Liverpool are currently the winners of the EPL. You know the teams they left behind. A nightmare night for Chelsea will soon begin. It is true that Chelsea have been showing signs of recovery in recent weeks, but it is really difficult for things to go their way tonight.
Since Liverpool's next match after this match will be Arsenal, they have to progress these weeks very carefully.
Although Liverpool at Anfield is not always easy to win, so I didn't expect an inconsistent Chelsea to get a point against Liverpool even though some Arsenal and Manchester City fans will be hoping for Chelsea to get at least one point in the game.
Predictions for a fulltime draw game didn't go as planned, I was thinking they could gamble a point out of the game tonight but I'll pass.
Isn't it the same rating like they had with Graham Potter from last season? Ain't it? Mauricio Pochetino is actually doing a poor job, only hopes about him winning something this season would be winning that finals come February.
We'll get to see after the competition if he'll be the manager continuing the job.
Congratulations to Jurgen Klopp and Liverpool, it's does seems like they're making good progress. Next month would determine the level of consistency they can go!
In the match where Tottenham fell behind 0-1, they ended the first half losing 0-1 in front of Brentford with the same score.
Tottenham, who entered the second half like a storm, made the score 1-1 in the 48th minute and one minute after this goal, the score was 2-1 at the 49th minute. He made the score 3-1 in the 56th minute.
Tottenham was the side that played superior football from start to finish in the match. Brentford made the score 3-2 in the 67th minute with Toney.
One of Tottenham's balls hit the post.
With this victory, Tottenham reached 43 points and rose to the 4th place.
Tottenham really showed their class today, coming from behind to beat Brentford is a good winning for them cause Brentford might be seen as a mediocre team but can be very dangerous especially now their key player Toney is back from suspension. The 1st half was quite difficult for them, Brentford made it tough for them to find the back of the net and even score the opener, I guess that weakened the morale of Tottenham's place for some moment.Tottenham, who entered the second half like a storm, made the score 1-1 in the 48th minute and one minute after this goal, the score was 2-1 at the 49th minute. He made the score 3-1 in the 56th minute.
Tottenham was the side that played superior football from start to finish in the match. Brentford made the score 3-2 in the 67th minute with Toney.
One of Tottenham's balls hit the post.
With this victory, Tottenham reached 43 points and rose to the 4th place.
However they realised themselves quickly in the 2nd half and that's why they replied quickly with an equalizer and scored another one in a minute later,I guess Brentford didn't see that coming, they felt relaxed and got comfortable with the 0-1 scoreline forgetting Tottenham are currently in the top 4 and aiming to maintain that position, Ange Postecoglou knew the consequences of loosing the match and I guess he had to motivate his players in the breaktime to do better and get the 3points.
The worse Chelsea were this year, the better Liverpool were, so I don't think they have much of a chance. Liverpool are currently the winners of the EPL. You know the teams they left behind. A nightmare night for Chelsea will soon begin. It is true that Chelsea have been showing signs of recovery in recent weeks, but it is really difficult for things to go their way tonight.
Since Liverpool's next match after this match will be Arsenal, they have to progress these weeks very carefully.
Although Liverpool at Anfield is not always easy to win, so I didn't expect an inconsistent Chelsea to get a point against Liverpool even though some Arsenal and Manchester City fans will be hoping for Chelsea to get at least one point in the game.
In the match where Tottenham fell behind 0-1, they ended the first half losing 0-1 in front of Brentford with the same score.
Tottenham, who entered the second half like a storm, made the score 1-1 in the 48th minute and one minute after this goal, the score was 2-1 at the 49th minute. He made the score 3-1 in the 56th minute.
A pretty good comeback was shown by Tottenham in this match as they fell behind but they had the momentum in the first 15 minutes of the second half which made the advantage turn to their favor.Tottenham, who entered the second half like a storm, made the score 1-1 in the 48th minute and one minute after this goal, the score was 2-1 at the 49th minute. He made the score 3-1 in the 56th minute.
Although Brighton got a chance back by catching up with the second goal scored but it couldn't bring them a point as Tottenham didn't want that to happen.
Losing Son made the attacking conditions a little different although they still played very well but without Son's speed on the sidelines, Tottenham made a difference in this match. Richalrison was at least able to fill Son's void temporarily and with the 1 goal he scored, Richalrison brought Tottenham to 3 points and made them shift Aston Villa from the Champions League zone even though the points are still the same.
In the match where Tottenham fell behind 0-1, they ended the first half losing 0-1 in front of Brentford with the same score.
Tottenham, who entered the second half like a storm, made the score 1-1 in the 48th minute and one minute after this goal, the score was 2-1 at the 49th minute. He made the score 3-1 in the 56th minute.
Tottenham was the side that played superior football from start to finish in the match. Brentford made the score 3-2 in the 67th minute with Toney.
One of Tottenham's balls hit the post.
With this victory, Tottenham reached 43 points and rose to the 4th place.
Tottenham, who entered the second half like a storm, made the score 1-1 in the 48th minute and one minute after this goal, the score was 2-1 at the 49th minute. He made the score 3-1 in the 56th minute.
Tottenham was the side that played superior football from start to finish in the match. Brentford made the score 3-2 in the 67th minute with Toney.
One of Tottenham's balls hit the post.
With this victory, Tottenham reached 43 points and rose to the 4th place.
The final round of the EFL Cup is really likely to be lovely. However Chelsea just can't beat Liverpool in such cup games for quite long. They played two final rounds against each other in the FA Cup and EFL Cup in the 2021/22 season. Liverpool beat them by penalty shoot-outs in both of the matches. Chelsea had better get well-prepared. 
I also have the feeling that Chelsea might find it difficult to win Liverpool in the match, their performances have really been poor this season. I am just surprised that they have been able to reach the EFL final, they have really been inconsistent, but I have noticed a slight improvement in their matches lately. Let's see if they will be able to surprise everyone in their match against Liverpool. Chelsea's performance is always good when they are playing against strong clubs, so let’s see what will happen in the match. I know it won’t really be an easy match for Chelsea, but let’s see how the two teams will perform.Since Liverpool's next match after this match will be Arsenal, they have to progress these weeks very carefully.
Mauricio Pochentino's Chelsea have been getting good results against the traditional big clubs in England and against Liverpool tonight, they're definitely gonna put in their best to try and make sure they leave Anfield with one point at least pr better still maximum three points. It'll be a difficult game of you ask me but I think Liverpool will either win the game or draw
The final round of the EFL Cup is really likely to be lovely. However Chelsea just can't beat Liverpool in such cup games for quite long. They played two final rounds against each other in the FA Cup and EFL Cup in the 2021/22 season. Liverpool beat them by penalty shoot-outs in both of the matches. Chelsea had better get well-prepared.
I also have the feeling that Chelsea might find it difficult to win Liverpool in the match, their performances have really been poor this season. I am just surprised that they have been able to reach the EFL final, they have really been inconsistent, but I have noticed a slight improvement in their matches lately. Let's see if they will be able to surprise everyone in their match against Liverpool. Chelsea's performance is always good when they are playing against strong clubs, so let’s see what will happen in the match. I know it won’t really be an easy match for Chelsea, but let’s see how the two teams will perform.Since Liverpool's next match after this match will be Arsenal, they have to progress these weeks very carefully.
I also have the feeling that Chelsea might find it difficult to win Liverpool in the match, their performances have really been poor this season. I am just surprised that they have been able to reach the EFL final, they have really been inconsistent, but I have noticed a slight improvement in their matches lately. Let's see if they will be able to surprise everyone in their match against Liverpool. Chelsea's performance is always good when they are playing against strong clubs, so let’s see what will happen in the match. I know it won’t really be an easy match for Chelsea, but let’s see how the two teams will perform.
It’s really a surprise for them to read the final of the EFL cup and playing against Liverpool can prove to be difficult for them because of their bad performances this season. Chelsea are known to be very good against stronger opponents this season but in this final I don’t think they can pull any string in this upcoming game. This is football so even if they are not up to the task they should not be underrated by Liverpool because they might come out prepared since this could be their only chance of winning a trophy this season. I trust Liverpool, they can’t joke with this chance as well so they will be prepared as well but nothing is certain yet so let’s see what happens and let’s see who will win the trophy this time.
Onana became the scapegoat for Erin Ten hag blunder in not trusting De Gea. Onana is often criticized for his not-so-smart way of guarding the goal so that the goal doesn't get conceded. But there are some facts that he can't be completely blamed for, because all the players must be responsible for Manchester United's declining performance this season. For Onana, he will find his identity and better confidence next season. He just needs support from all his teammates in the defense line because it's useless for Onana to perform well if their defense isn't strong enough this season.
I don't feel he is a scapegoat because even though in this case we know that De Gea was let go by Ten Hag but with the performance Onana gave at Manchester United in this season he also deserves to be blamed because the performance he has is not very good even seems bad for a goalkeeper class with a price of more than 50 million.There are indeed some conditions where Onana is also a little troubled by poor defense but on the other hand we must be aware that this is apart from the poor defense of Mancehster United when many goals are scored by the opponent it is inseparable from Onana's poor performance under the bar and even he often makes mistakes that should not be necessary.
So this is not entirely Ten Hag's fault and not entirely Onana's fault but indeed they are one of the reasons for the decline of Manchester United.
If in the end he can improve his performance maybe he will be defended but until now the performance of Onana has not improved and even seems to continue to decline.
Meanwhile today is a big day in the Premier League. Liverpool are hosting Chelsea in Anfield. 
Salah's AFCON journey didn't last long however he picked up an unlucky injury. He was expected to return by the end of the month but not recover fully though. Therefore he will miss the game today. This is really bad news for Liverpool. I mean Liverpool have already been struggling in Chelsea games for a while. While Salah is absent it is a more difficult job.
Chelsea have made improvement lately. Thanks to the good results they got I guess they would resist well here. I would rather bet on both teams to score @1.46 rather than trusting anyone to win.
The odds:
- Liverpool: 1.57 Draw: 4.60 Chelsea: 5.10
What is your opinion on the big game tonight?
If Liverpool gets a draw tonight, it won't be a bad outing even though a win would have done so much good to their title chase. The absence of Mohamed Salah will be felt more in this crucial match than their last match where they had a blazing win without him. Tonight then are playing Chelsea, a tough side that know what it means to play a top team. Liverpool win at 1.57 is a small odd because the match is looking more like a draw than a direct win for Liverpool. The most probable bet would be 3Ways home win or draw. Salah's AFCON journey didn't last long however he picked up an unlucky injury. He was expected to return by the end of the month but not recover fully though. Therefore he will miss the game today. This is really bad news for Liverpool.
I mean Liverpool have already been struggling in Chelsea games for a while. While Salah is absent it is a more difficult job.Chelsea have made improvement lately. Thanks to the good results they got I guess they would resist well here. I would rather bet on both teams to score @1.46 rather than trusting anyone to win.
The odds:
- Liverpool: 1.57 Draw: 4.60 Chelsea: 5.10
What is your opinion on the big game tonight?
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Onana is just a budget deficit that Erik has settled for and because he doesn't want to be embarrassed for his own choice, he prefer to show the world that his decision remain the best I think.Not to be one sided, I think Onana impress everyone in the last Champions League he went with Inter, he didn't conceded goals in Inter during Champions League and Seria League like he is doing now, maybe is because of the high pressure and the club are asking much from him but I can say that Onana was good last season and deserve Manchester United.
Although onana performed well at inter. when playing at manchester united it became bad. it even spread to the appearance in the cameron national team. at the African cup yesterday onana only played 1 x and conceded 3 goals.
Meanwhile today is a big day in the Premier League. Liverpool are hosting Chelsea in Anfield.
Salah's AFCON journey didn't last long however he picked up an unlucky injury. He was expected to return by the end of the month but not recover fully though. Therefore he will miss the game today. This is really bad news for Liverpool. I mean Liverpool have already been struggling in Chelsea games for a while. While Salah is absent it is a more difficult job.
Chelsea have made improvement lately. Thanks to the good results they got I guess they would resist well here. I would rather bet on both teams to score @1.46 rather than trusting anyone to win.
The odds:
- Liverpool: 1.57 Draw: 4.60 Chelsea: 5.10
What is your opinion on the big game tonight?
Salah's AFCON journey didn't last long however he picked up an unlucky injury. He was expected to return by the end of the month but not recover fully though. Therefore he will miss the game today. This is really bad news for Liverpool.
I mean Liverpool have already been struggling in Chelsea games for a while. While Salah is absent it is a more difficult job.Chelsea have made improvement lately. Thanks to the good results they got I guess they would resist well here. I would rather bet on both teams to score @1.46 rather than trusting anyone to win.
The odds:
- Liverpool: 1.57 Draw: 4.60 Chelsea: 5.10
What is your opinion on the big game tonight?
I will go for Liverpool here 1.57 is not bad at all
Liverpool versus Chelsea is going to start in a few hours. And I honestly do not think that Liverpool is going to lose this match even though they have Muhammad Salah missing. Yes, it is going to be hard for sure. At the same time, Chelsea is also starting to perform well in recent weeks. But I just don't think Liverpool is going to make a mistake at this point when they are at the top of the table and they have to win almost every match. Liverpool will definitely want to win this match to make the point difference bigger between them and Arsenal or Manchester City.
Meanwhile today is a big day in the Premier League. Liverpool are hosting Chelsea in Anfield.
Salah's AFCON journey didn't last long however he picked up an unlucky injury. He was expected to return by the end of the month but not recover fully though. Therefore he will miss the game today. This is really bad news for Liverpool. I mean Liverpool have already been struggling in Chelsea games for a while. While Salah is absent it is a more difficult job.
Chelsea have made improvement lately. Thanks to the good results they got I guess they would resist well here. I would rather bet on both teams to score @1.46 rather than trusting anyone to win.
The odds:
- Liverpool: 1.57 Draw: 4.60 Chelsea: 5.10
What is your opinion on the big game tonight?
Salah's AFCON journey didn't last long however he picked up an unlucky injury. He was expected to return by the end of the month but not recover fully though. Therefore he will miss the game today. This is really bad news for Liverpool.
I mean Liverpool have already been struggling in Chelsea games for a while. While Salah is absent it is a more difficult job.Chelsea have made improvement lately. Thanks to the good results they got I guess they would resist well here. I would rather bet on both teams to score @1.46 rather than trusting anyone to win.
The odds:
- Liverpool: 1.57 Draw: 4.60 Chelsea: 5.10
What is your opinion on the big game tonight?
Onana became the scapegoat for Erin Ten hag blunder in not trusting De Gea. Onana is often criticized for his not-so-smart way of guarding the goal so that the goal doesn't get conceded. But there are some facts that he can't be completely blamed for, because all the players must be responsible for Manchester United's declining performance this season. For Onana, he will find his identity and better confidence next season. He just needs support from all his teammates in the defense line because it's useless for Onana to perform well if their defense isn't strong enough this season.
The fans hope this season is of course to see Manchester United return to the top 4 rankings. But seeing how far they are lagging behind, of course it will take a miracle for them to reach the top 4. Erik may have to try to control his emotions in coaching because so far he has had a lot of problems with his players which makes the situation more complicated and difficult to control if there continue to be problems in their team.
Overall, Manchester united performance in the Premier League this season has shown that they have conceded more goals than they have scored, where they have conceded 29 goals in the 21 matches they have played. So they are not strong enough in their defense this season and also onana has not yet found his best form and I think he needs time to adapt to the style of play in the premier league.The fans hope this season is of course to see Manchester United return to the top 4 rankings. But seeing how far they are lagging behind, of course it will take a miracle for them to reach the top 4. Erik may have to try to control his emotions in coaching because so far he has had a lot of problems with his players which makes the situation more complicated and difficult to control if there continue to be problems in their team.
Yes, in Serie A with Inter milan last season, Onana managed to perform well in securing the goal. But in his first season with Manchester united, his career seemed to sink because he often conceded goals and his performance was not very good. Well, I doubt he will remain the main choice next season because if he fails to show his best quality in the remainder of this season, it could be that Manchester united will prepare a new goalkeeper for next season.
Onana was bad in intermilan but intermilan defenders were always helping onana a lot. This makes him was rarely making amazing safe for intermilan. I think that ten hag was rushing without even trying to think about it for twice. This is the bad side of ten hag caused by he was always rushing without even trying to see that whether his decision was right or not. I don't like ten hag caused by he was always thinking that if he was able doing everything right.
To be honest, if i would like to see onana played in the AFCON forever. This goal keeper sucks and he was not even worthy enough to be the main goal keeper for manchester united. Ten hag has been confirming when he will be back to the united but i was praying for him never comeback again. MU is just getting back its disaster again.
It's quite surprising me to see that how onana was not even able performing good even in AFCON. he was always making so many blunders on AFCON and i have been seeing his meme from AFCON many times. It sounds shit to hear that ten hag is feeling happy to see him back again.
What a fuckin disaster for manchester united. I believe him when he came to the united but i distrust him now after so many terrible performances from onana. His performance in afcon has been showing how bad he was as a goalkeeper. He deserves no place in the manchester united.
Ten hag has no time to get a new goal keeper and this is shit. I hoped that if ten hag would get a new goal keeper but i was wrong. This terrible guy is still becoming the main goal keeper of manchester united.
It is quite shocking to see such a terrible decision being made by Ten Hag at this moment. I don't like this. What a fuckin scam transfer from intermilan. Why doesn't ten hag to tell him comeback to the club next year.
He went to AFCON where we thought he could use that to clear his name off the bad books of Man United Fans but rather he still made costly erros that made the fans now want to rethink what ETH saw in him before going to sign him. Now he’s scheduled to be back between the sticks and ETH is ready to receive him, although the fans don’t want him back to the stick. Well Onana will have to get his confidence back so as to be able to help Man United concede less and get back to winning ways. Though the fans don’t want him but I think if ETH wants to give him a chance, then let’s see what he can offer.
You should check out this meme about Onana's return from AFCON. 
https://x.com/TF_Video/status/1749008117474496611?s=20
Cameroon were eliminated by Nigeria a few days ago so Onana must have already returned to Manchester. Manchester United even asked him to play 2 matches in 24 hours before leaving for AFCON you know. Because Onana is the best goalkeeper they have now. He is actually not a bad goalkeeper. You must have all watched his performance at Inter in the Champions League previously. If I'm not wrong he had the most amount of saves.
This season he is just inconsistent which is causing him to concede easy goals as well. He needs to get over this problem first and then he can bring back those days.
https://x.com/TF_Video/status/1749008117474496611?s=20
Cameroon were eliminated by Nigeria a few days ago so Onana must have already returned to Manchester. Manchester United even asked him to play 2 matches in 24 hours before leaving for AFCON you know. Because Onana is the best goalkeeper they have now. He is actually not a bad goalkeeper. You must have all watched his performance at Inter in the Champions League previously. If I'm not wrong he had the most amount of saves.
This season he is just inconsistent which is causing him to concede easy goals as well. He needs to get over this problem first and then he can bring back those days.
Onana became the scapegoat for Erin Ten hag blunder in not trusting De Gea. Onana is often criticized for his not-so-smart way of guarding the goal so that the goal doesn't get conceded. But there are some facts that he can't be completely blamed for, because all the players must be responsible for Manchester United's declining performance this season. For Onana, he will find his identity and better confidence next season. He just needs support from all his teammates in the defense line because it's useless for Onana to perform well if their defense isn't strong enough this season.
That's right. Onana is actually a good goalkeeper and he has great abilities as a modern goalkeeper. His performance with Inter Milan also shows his quality. Maybe Onana needs to adapt to the English league atmosphere and in some ways I think keeping the goal from conceding is not just the goalkeeper's job. We know United's defense has been very poor this season and there have been many mistakes made by defenders. Even though many fans compare him with De Gea, I think De Gea has adapted to United's defenders and Onana has not found chemistry with the defenders this season.
It's too naive to blame Onana himself and scapegoat him, as if he's at fault, I agree that it's not entirely Onana's fault, the midfield and defense should be questioned why so many balls escape into their defense? this is certainly the impact of poor defense, the defender is unable to block the opponent's attack which causes the last defense for a keeper to be very difficult, and again Onana is still in the adaptation stage with the English premier league and of course the Man United squad as his team.
It is unethical to compare with De Gea who has been with Man United for so long, Onana is also a good keeper but maybe he needs time to adapt, especially in the tension of the match in the EPL.
Onana became the scapegoat for Erin Ten hag blunder in not trusting De Gea. Onana is often criticized for his not-so-smart way of guarding the goal so that the goal doesn't get conceded. But there are some facts that he can't be completely blamed for, because all the players must be responsible for Manchester United's declining performance this season. For Onana, he will find his identity and better confidence next season. He just needs support from all his teammates in the defense line because it's useless for Onana to perform well if their defense isn't strong enough this season.
That's right. Onana is actually a good goalkeeper and he has great abilities as a modern goalkeeper. His performance with Inter Milan also shows his quality. Maybe Onana needs to adapt to the English league atmosphere and in some ways I think keeping the goal from conceding is not just the goalkeeper's job. We know United's defense has been very poor this season and there have been many mistakes made by defenders. Even though many fans compare him with De Gea, I think De Gea has adapted to United's defenders and Onana has not found chemistry with the defenders this season.
Onana became the scapegoat for Erin Ten hag blunder in not trusting De Gea. Onana is often criticized for his not-so-smart way of guarding the goal so that the goal doesn't get conceded. But there are some facts that he can't be completely blamed for, because all the players must be responsible for Manchester United's declining performance this season. For Onana, he will find his identity and better confidence next season. He just needs support from all his teammates in the defense line because it's useless for Onana to perform well if their defense isn't strong enough this season.
The fans hope this season is of course to see Manchester United return to the top 4 rankings. But seeing how far they are lagging behind, of course it will take a miracle for them to reach the top 4. Erik may have to try to control his emotions in coaching because so far he has had a lot of problems with his players which makes the situation more complicated and difficult to control if there continue to be problems in their team.
Overall, Manchester united performance in the Premier League this season has shown that they have conceded more goals than they have scored, where they have conceded 29 goals in the 21 matches they have played. So they are not strong enough in their defense this season and also onana has not yet found his best form and I think he needs time to adapt to the style of play in the premier league.The fans hope this season is of course to see Manchester United return to the top 4 rankings. But seeing how far they are lagging behind, of course it will take a miracle for them to reach the top 4. Erik may have to try to control his emotions in coaching because so far he has had a lot of problems with his players which makes the situation more complicated and difficult to control if there continue to be problems in their team.
Yes, in Serie A with Inter milan last season, Onana managed to perform well in securing the goal. But in his first season with Manchester united, his career seemed to sink because he often conceded goals and his performance was not very good. Well, I doubt he will remain the main choice next season because if he fails to show his best quality in the remainder of this season, it could be that Manchester united will prepare a new goalkeeper for next season.
Because the Premier League competition is very tight and the attack of the players in the Premier League clubs are very impressive, Onana has difficulty securing the goal, which is different when he is in the Italian League, where the competition is not as tight as the Premier League.
If you know, Onana actually had a good performance in terms of his skills in securing the goal at that time in Serie A. Onana was famous for being the best goalkeeper, but his defense was very bad for the defenders.
You can see that at that time in the Champions League match, Onana was able to save a penalty kick from the opponent and that is proof that Onana actually has good skills, it's just that he had to struggle to secure the goal without strong support from the defenders.
Just imagine if Manchester United had a very strong defender, Onana certainly wouldn't have had a bad performance like this and we shouldn't just blame Onana but also the bad defender.
Talking about Onana being fired when his performance is poor doesn't seem possible because he is Erik Ten Hag's choice, whereas everyone knows how Erik Ten Hag is at MU, even MU management seems to be submissive to Erik Ten Hag.
So it would not be possible if he was fired even though he failed at Manchester United.
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