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Probable position of EPL teams by the end of the season. Keep in mind that this isn't about the mathematical chances of a team reaching a certain position but, Using win probability on the left over matches, how the team is most likely going to fare.
Nothing has changed between this and using mathematical chances and it think that the result can still chance but yeath since the upcoming week is not gonna be a hard week for manchester cit and in my opinion that if nothing will change. Liverpool is still leading the competition, but given the upcoming fixtures between Liverpool and Arsenal which are even more difficult compared to the what manchester city is gonna face and i strongly believe city can take advantage from this, I believe a miracle can occur for Manchester City in the future to see its competitors were bottling some matches. Having said that if Liverpool is currently favored by bookmakers to win the competitions but who knows if a miracle can happen like last season when arsenal bottled some matches, but there are still plenty of matches left for all of top clubs and the standing can changed based on the resut achieved in any weeks.

The first, second, and third positions can change at any time as long as the gap is not too large. I believe Arsenal should have a lower win probability based on who their next opponents will be. Manchester City has surpassed almost all of the strong clubs but yeah since it was not lucky enough and it's still at the third place now.
city now only has some mediocre clubs as upcoming fixtures which can be passed easily by the big like city and it will put the city in the safe zone, whereas Arsenal has not yet faced strong clubs. We consider other factors, such as club fixtures and I would rank Arsenal lower than Manchester City coz city has easier fixtures compared to the arsenal which will face chelsea, mu and many more.

Liverpool will remain in first place if they do not have as difficult a schedule as Arsenal. I believe the Reds will win the competition this season because they have a very strong club that can perform consistently in any match.

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All credit goes to Arteta for making this Arsenal team what it is today. I have watched this team develop in the last couple of seasons, they have become a team worthy of being considered serious title contenders for any tournament they are in. I think Arsenal would have won the EPL last season if Manchester City were not such a dominant team. They will not want to disappoint their fans this time around.

In the first half of the season, Manchester City failed to score against Arsenal. The Gunners under Arteta defended very well in both games. They looked a bit like a bus in front of the goal in this game, but we have to admit that they have defended well this year. Also, apart from everything else, I've seen Haaland underperforming a bit in the last few weeks. If he can't get back to his old days, I say Manchester City can forget about the title this season. He's playing as a lone striker and not scoring in the last games.
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All credit goes to Arteta for making this Arsenal team what it is today. I have watched this team develop in the last couple of seasons, they have become a team worthy of being considered serious title contenders for any tournament they are in. I think Arsenal would have won the EPL last season if Manchester City were not such a dominant team. They will not want to disappoint their fans this time around.
Arsenal of last season has little lapses in their squad, the team lack squad depth as at last season which is why they lose the title to the best team in the league. They are also afraid of Manchester City which is why they lost to them home and away last season. But this season, Arsenal team has gain some maturity because some of the first team players are injured and the team is not showing any sign of their absence, this is indeed a remarkable success to Arteta and Arsenal should be considered a team that can win any trophy from now henceforth.
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Arsenal will have tougher fixtures compared to the manchester cit and im sure many people are totally aware about this. It's hard to predict whether liverpool will able to get three points against those clubs. Im concerning about manchester united and totenham matches. These club looked like ez matches but the reality may be very different.
Arsenal must have passed all of the matches carefully. A blunder for arsenal will be result in the club will be missing PL trophy once again and im sure that if many fans will be also mocking this club again like last season. Those fixtures are hard to pass by arsenal and i strongly belive arsenal can do that. Im not really sure to pick arsenal in the upcoming games.

Liverpool, arsenal and manchester city are same strong here. It's kinda weird to see that city was not performing like what it used to be. As long as liverpool's players will always play carefully without even get injury and the chance is big to keep the first place till the end of season.
Salah has always become a key owned by liverpool to win the game. His experience was carrying the club to perform better. Im feeling so damn good with the performance showed by liverpool till this time. Multiple trophies are still possible till now.

The EPL is now getting fierce with about 9 matches to go and now we can start playing out the possibilities of who’ll be winning the league at the end of the season. Yes we can know and predict the winner now and we can see who have a better chance of winning as compared to the others.

 Liverpool are mow 2 points clear at the top of table and that’s a big plus to them as they were able to get the win over the weekend against Brighton. Now they have some more matches to go and about 3 are with UCL spot contenders but one big thinng is that they’re all at Anfield and as such you can say Liverpool have the upper hands already.

 Arsenal on the other end with the draw statement made at the Etihad you can’t in anyway wrote them off from winning the league but the major issue is that most of their big matches are at the home ground of the other club and you can then begin to wonder the possibilities of getting 3 points. Yes 3 points is what’s very important at this point rather than having draws as draws might not be able to do anything or help at this point.

 ⁠For City you can now start wondering if they’ll be able to win with the whole injury crisis in the team springing up now and the way they cluelessly played against Arsenal them you’ll know their level of play has dropped. For me Liverpool are better team to win this league but if they fall back then I think Arsenal will sure win the league because City aren’t looking like they’re seriously wanting to win the league.
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It's possible to say that Manchester City's chances of winning the Premier League title are greater than Arsenal and Liverpool. Likewise, some people say that Arsenal or Liverpool have a big chance, but I'm still keeping it and don't want to say which of them has a big chance of lifting the trophy because the three of them will face matches with very close schedules which could potentially result in players getting injured because of fatigue.

Arsenal and Manchester City still remain in the European Champions League. Liverpool is also still in the Europa League.
Manchester City's position apart from the Champions League, they are also still in the FA Cup.

You will definitely complain about a busy schedule because it has a big impact on your desired targets.
A busy schedule will at least affect the performance or consistency of a team, fatigue or loss of focus can make things worse.

I don't think that Manchester City has a greater percentage to win the title this season, I think these three teams still have the same percentage because the remaining 10 games this season is not an easy thing to get through.

In terms of team strength, we have seen that Manchester City is no better than Arsenal and Liverpool, everything is the same, but with the remaining matches bringing together several other strong teams, anything is possible.

In week 31 Manchester City will again have difficulty facing Aston Villa, they cannot afford to lose this match with such a burden making it even more difficult for this team to be able to play as usual.
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Maybe you didn’t watch the match, because if you watch the match you won’t have said Manchester City performance was horrible today. All what you are talking about is the 1 shot on target which they had, but if you watch the match, you will see the pattern of  football which Arsenal played, they played a defensive game which didn’t give Manchester City opportunity to get to their goal keeper. If you check the possession, then you will see that Manchester City dominated the match, but they couldn’t get the opportunity to score in the match, I won’t really say Manchester City performance was bad in the match.

I watched the whole game and Manchester City were not good at all.  Smiley  Arsenal's playing a defensive game can't be shown as an excuse for that. Manchester City still have great players to score goals. Guardiola just couldn't figure out a way to break Arteta's system in this game. It wasn't a mission impossible in the end but of course I really admire Arteta's work.

This result and performance can't be acceptable for Manchester City while they are fighting for the Premier League title. Even if you ask Guardiola I'm pretty sure he will also say that they weren't good enough that day.

Arteta already beat them once at Emirates though so I was expecting Guardiola to be well-prepared this time.
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If we look at the chances that exist based on the remaining opponents at the moment, of course Manchester City has a greater chance of being able to win the Premier League than Arsenal and Liverpool, just like you, I also agree that currently the 3 point gap that Manchester City has from Liverpool at this time is not too big and they for now just need to wait and hope Liverpool and Arsenal slip up in their remaining games of the season.

It's possible to say that Manchester City's chances of winning the Premier League title are greater than Arsenal and Liverpool. Likewise, some people say that Arsenal or Liverpool have a big chance, but I'm still keeping it and don't want to say which of them has a big chance of lifting the trophy because the three of them will face matches with very close schedules which could potentially result in players getting injured because of fatigue.

Arsenal and Manchester City still remain in the European Champions League. Liverpool is also still in the Europa League.
Manchester City's position apart from the Champions League, they are also still in the FA Cup.

You will definitely complain about a busy schedule because it has a big impact on your desired targets.

Yep if we look at the remaining schedule, Mancity has the advantage compare with Liverpool and Arsenal.
But even if Liverpool and Arsenal lose 3 points, they are still on track to become Premier League champions with a difference of only 1 and 2 points with City.
I hope that this race will last until the last match of the season, not like the Serie A where its already known who will become the winner.
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If we look at the chances that exist based on the remaining opponents at the moment, of course Manchester City has a greater chance of being able to win the Premier League than Arsenal and Liverpool, just like you, I also agree that currently the 3 point gap that Manchester City has from Liverpool at this time is not too big and they for now just need to wait and hope Liverpool and Arsenal slip up in their remaining games of the season.

It's possible to say that Manchester City's chances of winning the Premier League title are greater than Arsenal and Liverpool. Likewise, some people say that Arsenal or Liverpool have a big chance, but I'm still keeping it and don't want to say which of them has a big chance of lifting the trophy because the three of them will face matches with very close schedules which could potentially result in players getting injured because of fatigue.

Arsenal and Manchester City still remain in the European Champions League. Liverpool is also still in the Europa League.
Manchester City's position apart from the Champions League, they are also still in the FA Cup.

You will definitely complain about a busy schedule because it has a big impact on your desired targets.
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Manchester City don’t have a match with Tottenham, they have played against Tottenham already and won 0-1

Manchester City are not as superior as they used to be and they might find it difficult to win some of their matches, they have a few strong matches too against Aston Villa, West Ham, Brighton, Fulham and some other low profile teams but it doesn’t guarantee them winning comfortably because we all know that as the league draws to the end it gets tougher and even bottom table teams become difficult to win.

Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City all have strong matches to play and to win them they need to be at their best performances else they can end up losing.

No they do have a match left against Tottenham HotSpur, the game was supposed to be played the same weekend that Manchester city played their FA cup quarter final and the game got postponed. The reason why most people miss this is because most of the news outlet leave out this fixture since it doesn’t currently have a date or time for it. The likeliest date will be after Manchester city have played there mid week second leg with Real Madrid which is suppose to be 17th of April. After then EPL will definitely fixed the match in one of the mid week games as a double week game for Manchester city. Tottenham definitely will have a say on this race since they will play the three competitors but I don’t see them even winning of their games as things stands now
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I also have the same thought. Compared to Liverpool and Arsenal, Man City is likely to encounter obstacles when playing against Tottenham and Aston Villa. Meanwhile, Liverpool and Arsenal, apart from having to play against Tottenham and Aston Villa, they also have to play against Man United. Man United does have inconsistent performance, but there are times when they play against big teams, they can play quite well.
Manchester City don’t have a match with Tottenham, they have played against Tottenham already and won 0-1

Manchester City are not as superior as they used to be and they might find it difficult to win some of their matches, they have a few strong matches too against Aston Villa, West Ham, Brighton, Fulham and some other low profile teams but it doesn’t guarantee them winning comfortably because we all know that as the league draws to the end it gets tougher and even bottom table teams become difficult to win.

Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City all have strong matches to play and to win them they need to be at their best performances else they can end up losing.
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Tottenham are really likely to seal the champion's fate in the remaining weeks. They have matches to play against all the title challengers in the remaining time of the season. By the way Liverpool have captured a really good advantage by last week results. They have taken the lead. I hope Liverpool finish the season ahead of Arsenal because of having a side bet to win. Tongue
It must really be a time to feel so lucky with your bet but, I don’t wish you that luck lol… Arsenal just has to win this one, they’ve come way too far to not have this title. From being the average team we knew them to be that is always looking up to the FA cup for a trophy and Europa for an international league qualification to a title contender and a strong UCL side. Of course I’ll like to see their efforts pay off but,

It’s really up to Spurs to decide. Spurs would be crowning the league champions this season with their lose or win. Arsenal already ensured they don’t lose their advantage to Manchester City and set the pace for number of goals, playing better football at the end of the season, that’s so not their style last season and they could win this for real.

Yeah... Last Season, They dominated all of the clubs who are rivals with em and Tottenham Hotspur was also included. I see them winning this game besides no matter how bad Arsenal be, they get it difficult to run over them, that is exactly how poor Tottenham Hotspur can be. I'm also sure that they will not be able to qualify for the Champions League Competition.

Manchester United will benefit from this game and that of Manchester City against Aston Villa. Lo and Behold, Olie Watkins wouldn't be available for the next game against Manchester City.
If Manchester United can successfully be consistent, they will also get the better of these too side's. Most importantly Tottenham Hotspur. Erik Ten Hag is doing all he can in his power to dominate and leapfrog them to qualify for the Champions League Competition.
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Probable position of EPL teams by the end of the season. Keep in mind that this isn't about the mathematical chances of a team reaching a certain position but, Using win probability on the left over matches, how the team is most likely going to fare.
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Arsenal just has to win this one, they’ve come way too far to not have this title. From being the average team we knew them to be that is always looking up to the FA cup for a trophy and Europa for an international league qualification to a title contender and a strong UCL side. Of course I’ll like to see their efforts pay off but,

It’s really up to Spurs to decide. Spurs would be crowning the league champions this season with their lose or win. Arsenal already ensured they don’t lose their advantage to Manchester City and set the pace for number of goals, playing better football at the end of the season, that’s so not their style last season and they could win this for real.
All credit goes to Arteta for making this Arsenal team what it is today. I have watched this team develop in the last couple of seasons, they have become a team worthy of being considered serious title contenders for any tournament they are in. I think Arsenal would have won the EPL last season if Manchester City were not such a dominant team. They will not want to disappoint their fans this time around.
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I also think the biggest opportunity lies with Man City. Even though they are 3 points behind Liverpool, if they play against their opponents in the next match, I am sure City will be able to beat their opponents. I think only Tottenham is relatively difficult to beat. The rest I'm sure City will win. Liverpool and Arsenal will also face Tottenham but they will also meet each other. So I think the biggest opportunity is City, then Arsenal then Liverpool.

If we look at the chances that exist based on the remaining opponents at the moment, of course Manchester City has a greater chance of being able to win the Premier League than Arsenal and Liverpool, just like you, I also agree that currently the 3 point gap that Manchester City has from Liverpool at this time is not too big and they for now just need to wait and hope Liverpool and Arsenal slip up in their remaining games of the season.

Manchester City have a relatively easy game left if we compare it to Arsenal and Liverpool, but I think still the competition for the Premier League title this season will be very exciting and of course decided until the last game there is, the draw obtained by Manchester City I think has a big impact on their current journey in the league but as a team that is quite strong and experienced in the Premier League,  Of course Manchester City will be able to rise in their next match to fight Aston Villa which is also a tough opponent for Manchester City besides Tottenham later.
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There are many possible scenarios to happen in this season. I think that if it's quite clear that as long as liverpool will able to get perfect result and PL trophy will be on its hand.
I also think the biggest opportunity lies with Man City. Even though they are 3 points behind Liverpool, if they play against their opponents in the next match, I am sure City will be able to beat their opponents. I think only Tottenham is relatively difficult to beat. The rest I'm sure City will win. Liverpool and Arsenal will also face Tottenham but they will also meet each other. So I think the biggest opportunity is City, then Arsenal then Liverpool.
As long as ange will keep to play defensive high line and the chance for city to beat totenham is still big. City is having easier fixtures compared to its opponent, and it means if city will have also more opportunities to win thge remaining matches compared to the its competitors to get PL trophy this season.
The main weakness of totenham when it was only focusing to attack its opponent and it was even losing its focus about how to defensve properly from its opponent. This is also the main reason garry nevile was bashing ange for his stupid mistake.
It seemed to me if ange kept try to force his club to use such tactic in any matches. Ange is still feeling so confidence in winning the game with such tactic. That's the only key to beat totenham's strategy as it will not likely to change is strategy till the end of season.
Ange got so many criticism from various parties but he doesn't even wanna hear it. he trust his team by himself and that's it.
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There are many possible scenarios to happen in this season. I think that if it's quite clear that as long as liverpool will able to get perfect result and PL trophy will be on its hand.
I also think the biggest opportunity lies with Man City. Even though they are 3 points behind Liverpool, if they play against their opponents in the next match, I am sure City will be able to beat their opponents. I think only Tottenham is relatively difficult to beat. The rest I'm sure City will win. Liverpool and Arsenal will also face Tottenham but they will also meet each other. So I think the biggest opportunity is City, then Arsenal then Liverpool.
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I think they are the ones who are really upset because Manchester City couldn't beat Arsenal at home. For Arsenal, it was important to finish the match without losing, and I think even getting 1 point from this atmosphere made them happy. Arteta seems to have analyzed Guardiola's strategy well. He made the best defense against him.

Arteta is really good at solving Guardiola's game and collecting important points against him. He was his student at Manchester City before in the end right?  Grin  After all this effort it would be a pity if Arsenal still don't achieve the PL trophy this season.  Sad  They really have a tough fixture waiting for them in the last weeks though.

I'm okay with a champion except Manchester City. Because I want their domination to be broken. It isn't nice to see the PL turning into a farmers league you know.

If Arsenal do this job it would be a huge success after a 20-year break. If Liverpool do it Klopp would say the best kind of goodbye to this 9-year journey.
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Today's biggest flex was Liverpool winning, going top of the table with all 3 points while City and Arsenal members lost 2 points. With only 9 matches left to play, its going to be a one-game and one-for-all season from now until the end of the season. Every year we have a Liverpool vs City title with each team trying to make it 3 games to the best winner.
I think they are the ones who are really upset because Manchester City couldn't beat Arsenal at home. For Arsenal, it was important to finish the match without losing, and I think even getting 1 point from this atmosphere made them happy. Arteta seems to have analyzed Guardiola's strategy well. He made the best defense against him.
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Maybe you didn’t watch the match, because if you watch the match you won’t have said Manchester City performance was horrible today. All what you are talking about is the 1 shot on target which they had, but if you watch the match, you will see the pattern of  football which Arsenal played, they played a defensive game which didn’t give Manchester City opportunity to get to their goal keeper. If you check the possession, then you will see that Manchester City dominated the match, but they couldn’t get the opportunity to score in the match, I won’t really say Manchester City performance was bad in the match.
Overall both clubs played very well in playing this match, Arsenal played the game with a defensive strategy and managed to maintain their defense very well so that it made it difficult for Manchester City to create opportunities even though they had good control of the ball as well as Arsenal who could not create goal opportunities against Manchester City. because Manchester City's defense was also quite strong so no one managed to score a goal in this match, both clubs were only able to achieve a goalless draw but at least this result was fair enough for both clubs.

Indeed, we can't blame Manchester City just for failing to win at home because Arsenal also kept their defense quite strong and made things difficult for the hosts. There's nothing to blame. Manchester City has done well even though it failed to get full points to occupy the top, and I said congratulations to Arsenal even though he didn't win the match at least he was able to get 4 points in their 2 meetings this season which is a great achievement for Arsenal.
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Tottenham are really likely to seal the champion's fate in the remaining weeks. They have matches to play against all the title challengers in the remaining time of the season. By the way Liverpool have captured a really good advantage by last week results. They have taken the lead. I hope Liverpool finish the season ahead of Arsenal because of having a side bet to win. Tongue
It must really be a time to feel so lucky with your bet but, I don’t wish you that luck lol… Arsenal just has to win this one, they’ve come way too far to not have this title. From being the average team we knew them to be that is always looking up to the FA cup for a trophy and Europa for an international league qualification to a title contender and a strong UCL side. Of course I’ll like to see their efforts pay off but,

It’s really up to Spurs to decide. Spurs would be crowning the league champions this season with their lose or win. Arsenal already ensured they don’t lose their advantage to Manchester City and set the pace for number of goals, playing better football at the end of the season, that’s so not their style last season and they could win this for real.
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