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Manchester City - Arsenal, less than a week to go... What do you say for this game? Do you believe Manchester City will manage to win this time after a draw against Liverpool?

Personally I believe there might be a chance for Arsenal. I'm favouring Manchester City though but we have seen them struggling in big games so far. Apart from the Liverpool draw I remember the one against Chelsea at Etihad again.  Smiley  While we are in really critical weeks I really wonder if they will fail again. As a reminder Arsenal beat them 1-0 at Emirates.  Wink
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I wouldn't be holding the draw against Liverpool against them. It was an away game against the top team, earning 1 point there was no shame. Similarily Arsenal also noted a draw in their away game against Liverpool in December.
I think The City will either win, or we'll see another draw. The key factor here is that Man City are playing at home, where they haven't yet lost any league game this season. Meanwhile, Arsenal has 3 losses in away league games.
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Kyle Walker's condition is doubtful. KDB and Ederson both are injured. Ederson doesn't look likely to recover before this game but maybe we can see KDB against Arsenal. I really didn't like KDB and Haaland against Liverpool in the last match.  Sad  If we see better performances from them they can be game changers. Arteta knows Guardiola's system very well. He was his assistant manager once. I wonder how he will build his strategies against Guardiola.

This week can be a really good opportunity for Liverpool to take the lead.
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Manchester City - Arsenal, less than a week to go... What do you say for this game? Do you believe Manchester City will manage to win this time after a draw against Liverpool?
We are approaching the end of the season and from few seasons ago, we are well aware of how Arsenal have been terrible in these times. The rest of EPL knows that and would be looking to capitalize on any fault in the team to kick in this syndrome once more. The bad news is, Arsenal this season and at this time seems to be at the top of there game, producing lots of goals in there fixtures and it’s very unlikely that they would be going down this season, worst still, to Manchester City.
I don’t like making predictions on games like this because, it’s got a lot of deciding about it and it’s approached differently by both sides but, I do think Arsenal could actually win this. Perhaps they don’t but, I don’t see them loosing either.
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Actually, this is a game I'm totally avoiding to take side, basically choosing a team to win, and I won't be tricked base on the small odds given to Manchester City to win the game regardless of them playing host in this game,  but I would consider going on BTS or rather over 1.5 would be best option for me to consider betting because this is not going to be an easy game as others may view it. There may be a kind of twist here which may shock everyone in the end.
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Manchester City - Arsenal, less than a week to go... What do you say for this game? Do you believe Manchester City will manage to win this time after a draw against Liverpool?

Personally I believe there might be a chance for Arsenal. I'm favouring Manchester City though but we have seen them struggling in big games so far. Apart from the Liverpool draw I remember the one against Chelsea at Etihad again.  Smiley  While we are in really critical weeks I really wonder if they will fail again. As a reminder Arsenal beat them 1-0 at Emirates.  Wink

I won't bet on a side here despite the 1.88 odds for Manchester City win. I'm thinking of BTTS or over 2.5 goals which have nearly the same odds. I'm closer to BTTS for now.
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The team has the right to decide which coach to pick for the club as long as this coach is capable enough to lead the club as a head coach. The rumors about Southgate being the new Manchester United manager aren't true, or it has not yet been confirmed by United itself. The chance to change can happen anytime in the club, and Ten Hag is still there, so there's nothing to worry about.

We'll see who becomes the new coach for Manchester United when the time comes, and I hope I will not feel disappointed with this, like seeing Southgate or Potter to be a new coach, mu needs someone who is of the same caliber likes Mourinho. If there's a better candidate than Ten Hag, then i'll be happy. Ten Hag hasn't had any impact on Manchester United for years, so it's time for him to go and join in anothe club like juventus. I don't trus him anymore, and I'm still wondering why Glazer is defending him to stay in the club for years instead of sacking him as he's been a flop for United since he was coming to the club and it sounds weird.

It's the best time to replace him, and I  don't care about who the new coach is, as long as the new coach is good and is a high-quality coach. But, if it's Graham Potter or even Southgate, then I hope MU will reconsider and pick someone like Mourinho, who's proven to be a worthy coach. I don't know why he got sacked.
Southgate doesn't seem like a good candidate for non-English teams to be fair, he has managed some premier league players, that's why he is considered doing better there. This means that all of that Bayern and Barcelona and Juventus deals are not good enough for him since he won't be doing all that well there.

This leaves United, Chelsea and possibly Liverpool, considering Liverpool could attract someone even better, and Southgate is not THAT good, we could remove them too. Only ones left are Chelsea and United, and I suppose United acted quicker, and that's why he is linked there but Chelsea wouldn't be a big stretch neither if they contact him and offer something big. Those are all possible stuff that may happen in the future.
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Arsenal have gone through a relatively comfortable period without any injuries and enter the period when the league will break with the morale they get from here. Arsenal have the most difficult fixture among the top three teams, but if arsenal beat city, they can turn all that fixture difficulty into a great motivation and belief. The team is ready for the premier league at the end of 4 years. Now their new test is the champions league. Since most of the team has not appeared in international cups, they suffered a lot in the first qualifying match. On top of that, the champions league seemed very different to them because they were used to the rules of the premier league. The championship may not come again, edu and arteta are moving forward with a 3 year plan. This is the second year.
Arsenal approaching a crucial phase in the season without significant injuries should be advantageous for them because their competitors don't have this situation. Relatively smooth period should be boosting their morale to fight for the title. The upcoming fixture facing Manchester City present both challenge and opportunity for them. Defeating City means they temporarily eliminate one competitor for the title, and also could be a catalyst for Arsenal to instill greater belief and motivation as they navigate a challenging stretch of matches.

Arsenal is making strides towards competitiveness in the Premier League after a period of rebuilding over the past four years. The team's readiness to compete at this level reflects the progress made under the leadership of Edu and Arteta. Transitioning to the Champions League presents a new set of challenges for Arsenal, particularly for players who lack experience in international competitions. Adjusting to the different dynamics and regulations of European football can be a learning curve, because it's evidenced by their initial struggles in the qualifying rounds.
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Regardless of whether in the end this is true or not, we will continue to wait for the development of this rumor to be like what but indeed if you look at the current situation I actually doubt this a little because indeed the news that Southgate is said to be the successor to the Manchester United coach now seems too exaggerated.
In the modern era like today we cannot avoid speculation that continues to circulate and even just need a little reference for the media to continue to raise the news regardless of whether it is true or not, at this time we cannot deny if Manchester United is in a crisis that makes them continue to be hampered from developing, the philosophy that has been put forward by Ten Hag in Manchester actually failed miserably and made Manchester United lag behind the title challenger team In recent seasons and made Mamchester United linked with Southgate.

What you assume is quite true, because it seems that Souhtgate's situation in the England national team is also like Ten Hag in Manchester who has failed to improve the team's performance, currently Southgate has a contract until December 2024 and I think the FA will also not give a new contract if Southgate fails again at the Euros this season,  I think if Manchester United really want to sign Southgate, they should think again because after all this time Southgate has not been able to bring good achievements to England.
Because for now by avoiding speculation in the midst of the conditions of each club that needs a coach when there is a different closeness such as Xabi who has a good relationship with Liverpool and Bayern or indeed there is a condition where Southgate is with Manchester United now, it is natural that all speculation and rumors will develop quickly. Because that is the job of the media and the media definitely wants highlights like this for the headlines they want to do.

But if talking about an opinion then I still feel that making a deal with Southgate to replace Ten Hag is clearly risky because his performance can be the same. Some of Southgate's decisions in the England national team clearly have controversy in them and he also cannot control the national team well so this should be the benchmark in the end for Manchester United if they want to replace Ten Hag with Southgate.
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People are talking about the rumours about Southgate to Manchester United but I hope it doesn't happen even if it is true. Southgate isn't a successful manager at all. He couldn't achieve anything in his career. England still can't win even one title I mean. However he is still managing the team which is very unreasonable to me.  Sad

I don't expect Southgate to be the one to make big changes at Manchester United. There are much better manager options that they can think of. The main problem isn't only the manager for them. It has been the management of the whole team. Now the owner has changed and I hope this would have positive effects on the team success.

Why does it have to be Gareth Southgate? Gareth Southgate might be considered an experienced coach and as we know he has coached the England national team for quite a long time but until now he has not had any good achievements that he can present. So I think Gareth Southgate is not the coach that Man United needs right now. Maybe it would be better if Man United tried to sign Xabi Alonso. He may not have much experience, but what I see is that he is a coach who has a winning mentality and I think this is the kind of coach that Man United should get.
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I think it's also rude that we are always linked Southgate to another club that still has a coach in there. Southgate is also focused on the National team which I think is more prestigious than if he coaches the club. If England get the Euro Trophy for this year, The FA will extend his contract which runs out in the summer which I think will be a motivation in itself to get euro 2024 champions and as england coach.

In fact, this is a common thing where each team can be linked with several potential new coaches if the coach is temporarily unable to provide progress for the team. Manchester United actually have to be more patient with Erik Ten Hag because he has made progress for Manchester United. Apart from that, of course everything is in the hands of Sir Jim Ratcliffe where he will be the new boss and he plans to rebuild Manchester United into a stronger team.

Now for Southgate, he is currently linked with Manchester United, but it is not certain whether Sir Jim Ratcliffe really wants to use Southgate services or prefers to stay with Erik Ten Hag. However, if Erik Ten Hag fails to bring Manchester United to a top 4 finish this season then it is very likely that he will not have another chance to coach Manchester United.
People took it seriously, despite the fact that if it's still lack of confirmation from manchester untied itself regarding the future of club and him. I meant if it's too early to generalize that Southgate will be the new coach of Manchester United, when the facts say otherwise and people shall have realized it. Manchester United is still using ten hag, and there has been no confirmation from United as to whether it will continue to use it for the upcoming season or this gonna be last season of him.
Personally, I see no reason to keep him much longer because it will only harm the club. It will be very bad for Manchester United in the long run. Giving him a few years is sufficient to help United return to its previous performance which is enough to take a conclusion if ten hag is a flopp.


MU fired a coach who won the Europa League for a garbage coach who could only win the EFL Cup after spending hundreds of millions of pounds to mix and match players which is craz af. Glazer must intervene to make sure Ten Hag's career will come to an end. Mu must cut him off or there will be another disaster from ten hag.
Personally, I cannot bear the thought of ten hags staying in the club for an extended period of time. Manchester United needs someone like Pep or Klopp. MU should also remember to stop wasting more resources by hiring a garbage coach to manage the club.

It's ridiculous if Mu signs another terrible coach like Ten Hag, who will also waste the club's valuable resources. A coach who knows when to buy and sell his players.

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People are talking about the rumours about Southgate to Manchester United but I hope it doesn't happen even if it is true. Southgate isn't a successful manager at all. He couldn't achieve anything in his career. England still can't win even one title I mean. However he is still managing the team which is very unreasonable to me.  Sad

I don't expect Southgate to be the one to make big changes at Manchester United. There are much better manager options that they can think of. The main problem isn't only the manager for them. It has been the management of the whole team. Now the owner has changed and I hope this would have positive effects on the team success.
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The match against Manchester City will be a psychological test of how strong Arsenal are currently competing for the EPL trophy, and it is important for them to win the game, even if it is difficult, because Arsenal must win their mentality. Winning the EPL will boost players' confidence when it comes to facing other teams in the league.The last time Aminal won a neutral was in 2003/04 and Arsenal EP fans have been waiting a long time for an answer.
True, and winning that game will boost the club's performance a lot. In order to achieve this, Arsenal must have a better mentality. It will allow the club to defend its position until the end of the season, but I'm still doubting it was caused by Arsenal. This club has never won anything in the Premier League since two decades ago.
It means that Arsenal's mentality is poor. Arteta may be able to push it even better than the previous coaches did, but I'm still doubting it was caused by Arsenal, which has been known as a club that did bottle jobs at the end of the season many times. It means the club was always missing important things.
Even arsenal has been awarded to be a club that was very often in bottling the EPL trophies after its perfect season in PL. Did you remember last season? arsenal has gotten a 91% win rate in the premier league, but the City was winning the competition.
It sounds strange but it's real. This is what I was calling Arsenal as the king of bottle jobs. The bottle gun is a perfect name for arsenal now. We may see this bottle gun to miss another chance to get EPL again soon. Seriously, i strongly believe many will blame this bottle gun if this club missed it again like last season.
Arsenal have gone through a relatively comfortable period without any injuries and enter the period when the league will break with the morale they get from here. Arsenal have the most difficult fixture among the top three teams, but if arsenal beat city, they can turn all that fixture difficulty into a great motivation and belief. The team is ready for the premier league at the end of 4 years. Now their new test is the champions league. Since most of the team has not appeared in international cups, they suffered a lot in the first qualifying match. On top of that, the champions league seemed very different to them because they were used to the rules of the premier league. The championship may not come again, edu and arteta are moving forward with a 3 year plan. This is the second year.
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We'll see who becomes the new coach for Manchester United when the time comes, and I hope I will not feel disappointed with this, like seeing Southgate or Potter to be a new coach, mu needs someone who is of the same caliber likes Mourinho. If there's a better candidate than Ten Hag, then i'll be happy. Ten Hag hasn't had any impact on Manchester United for years, so it's time for him to go and join in anothe club like juventus. I don't trus him anymore, and I'm still wondering why Glazer is defending him to stay in the club for years instead of sacking him as he's been a flop for United since he was coming to the club and it sounds weird.

It's the best time to replace him, and I  don't care about who the new coach is, as long as the new coach is good and is a high-quality coach. But, if it's Graham Potter or even Southgate, then I hope MU will reconsider and pick someone like Mourinho, who's proven to be a worthy coach. I don't know why he got sacked.

The decision to replace Ten Hag in the future is good, and I like it. However, the rumored candidates to replace him aren't capable of managing United. The nonsense rumor about Graham Potter replacing Ten Hag is crazy.


Currently Manchester United no longer has hope of being able to compete again as a top four team in the English League, since the old ownership of Manchester who continues to choose an incompetent coach makes Manchester United currently slumped and Manchester United management should have evaluated, currently there are reportedly two options that will be given by Manchester United to Ten Hag next season namely being fired or staying at Manchester but experiencing a demotion But I think sacking is the right solution because Ten Hag's ambition to make Manchester like Ajax when he coached has failed miserably.

I think it is important now for Sir Jim Ratcliffe to really choose a coach who is indeed capable of lifting Manchester United's performance next season, indeed there are currently several names linked with being ten Hag's successor and even now 9 names are expected to be strong candidates such as Southgate, Graham Potter, Roberto De Zerbi,  Thomas Frank, Thomas Tuchel, Julen Lopetegui, Zinedine Zidane, Ruben Amorim and Julian Nagelsmann, and I think they are on the same level as Mourinho in terms of coaching a club, the many names that have emerged today give Sir Jim Ratcliffe many options to choose one of them who is really suitable to replace ten Hag next season.
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Chelsea has changed managers 4 times during the 2 years under Boehly's ownership.
Guardiola need a year before he able to win the Premier League title for Mancity, and Kloop even took 3 years to win the Premier League with Liverpool.

Chelsea must give Pochentino more time, and stop buying a lot of expensive players who have never played in the Premier League before.
These Chelsea players are now just run and run but with no results, there are too many individual mistakes because the players on the field are not yet completely united.

I agree. Even the best coaches need time to rebuild the team for their own system to bring success. Manchester City squad has been built according to Guardiola's plans. Now they are dominating the EPL. Klopp came at the beginning of the 2015/2016 season and couldn't save Liverpool for 3 years. But after missing the title chance barely in the 2018/2019 season they finally won in the following season.  Smiley

These examples are proving that giving a coach a good amount of time is really important. But I don't have such hope from Boehly after seeing how many times he has changed the coach until this point.  Sad

It is natural that Chelsea often change their coaches because they feel quite frustrated with their current condition. Therefore, they do everything they can, including the option to change coaches, in the hope that it will make them better. However, in my opinion, what is really Chelsea's problem is not that simple. No matter how many times they change their coaches, I don't think it will provide a solution because the main thing that should be their concern is to return management to the way it was when Roman Abramovich was still with them.

When Roman Abramovich was still with Chelsea, they had their glory days because Abramovich succeeded in changing the club in many aspects and made Chelsea a team with a winning mentality. It's just that this glory collapsed when Roman Abramovich had to leave Chelsea because of something that Abramovich couldn't avoid.
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Something else you need to know is that not only the defense line is very strong but also the midfield and attack line are very strong.
I consider Manchester City to be one of the most perfect clubs in terms of players who don't have any shortcomings. Everything is very great and do you know why I say this?
Because there are no major changes that have occurred in Manchester City so the strength of this club is still the same as last season, whereas you can see that Real Madrid is not like it was in its glory days and currently looks a little very weak to me.
Yes, it is true that Man City looks like a very perfect team at the moment in every aspect, they also have a coach who is great at rotating and providing strategies, under the guidance of Pep Man City has become a strong team in the EPL and has dominated the title for years even though the EPL is a league. which is quite difficult. With its strength still being good in the EPL, Man City's performance in the UCL can still be said to be strong because in my opinion, if the EPL team is able to compete for the EPL title then it deserves to fight for the title in the UCL.
Even so, we also cannot underestimate Real Madrid because the fact is that Madrid is still the king of the UCL and now its performance has also improved. Madrid also has a strong defense and midfield, but its attack line is not as strong as Man City.
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Chelsea has changed managers 4 times during the 2 years under Boehly's ownership.
Guardiola need a year before he able to win the Premier League title for Mancity, and Kloop even took 3 years to win the Premier League with Liverpool.

Chelsea must give Pochentino more time, and stop buying a lot of expensive players who have never played in the Premier League before.
These Chelsea players are now just run and run but with no results, there are too many individual mistakes because the players on the field are not yet completely united.

I agree. Even the best coaches need time to rebuild the team for their own system to bring success. Manchester City squad has been built according to Guardiola's plans. Now they are dominating the EPL. Klopp came at the beginning of the 2015/2016 season and couldn't save Liverpool for 3 years. But after missing the title chance barely in the 2018/2019 season they finally won in the following season.  Smiley

These examples are proving that giving a coach a good amount of time is really important. But I don't have such hope from Boehly after seeing how many times he has changed the coach until this point.  Sad
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Southgate to United would not be a bad idea to be fair, not that he is an amazing manager or something but he is not that bad and he can't really screw the team over this badly. Plus, I always believed that managers should have a lesser power at transfers, if you keep asking managers who to get, there will be some issues, just bring good players in and let the manager do their job.

Southgate could be pretty great at that, you hire a proper general manager or director of football whatever and that would mean that we would be able to see good transfers and a decent manager. Of course at this point United will only get better because they have such high quality young players, who will only get better and better with time.

Why is it that, Bayern Munich wants a new coach.
Chelsea wants a new coach.
Barcelona wants a new coach.
Liverpool wants a new coach.
Juventus wants a new coach. But, Gareth Southgate is only linked to Manchester United? Why not also linked to this other clubs? This is done and pushed by the English media and it's completely bullshit! Dogshiit!
My friend, don't worry too much about that. The team has the right to decide which coach to pick for the club as long as this coach is capable enough to lead the club as a head coach. The rumors about Southgate being the new Manchester United manager aren't true, or it has not yet been confirmed by United itself. The chance to change can happen anytime in the club, and Ten Hag is still there, so there's nothing to worry about.

We'll see who becomes the new coach for Manchester United when the time comes, and I hope I will not feel disappointed with this, like seeing Southgate or Potter to be a new coach, mu needs someone who is of the same caliber likes Mourinho. If there's a better candidate than Ten Hag, then i'll be happy. Ten Hag hasn't had any impact on Manchester United for years, so it's time for him to go and join in anothe club like juventus. I don't trus him anymore, and I'm still wondering why Glazer is defending him to stay in the club for years instead of sacking him as he's been a flop for United since he was coming to the club and it sounds weird.

It's the best time to replace him, and I  don't care about who the new coach is, as long as the new coach is good and is a high-quality coach. But, if it's Graham Potter or even Southgate, then I hope MU will reconsider and pick someone like Mourinho, who's proven to be a worthy coach. I don't know why he got sacked.

The decision to replace Ten Hag in the future is good, and I like it. However, the rumored candidates to replace him aren't capable of managing United. The nonsense rumor about Graham Potter replacing Ten Hag is crazy.
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The potential ownership change under Sir Jim Ratcliffe could indeed herald a new era for Manchester United. That can bring fresh perspectives and strategies to the club. Appointing capable individuals to oversee football operations implies a commitment to revitalizing Manchester United's fortunes and returning the club to its glory. The speculation surrounding Erik Ten Hag's future as manager adds an intriguing dimension to Manchester United's ongoing transformation. His understanding of tactics and strategies makes him a compelling candidate to lead the club forward, and fans will probably be eager to see if he remains at the helm next season.

The rumors linking Gareth Southgate to the managerial position at Manchester United is shocking. Who would think he can handle the demands at Manchester United. The possibility of Southgate joining Manchester United cannot be entirely ruled out, but the club's long-term vision and managerial preferences are not a cheap concern. Manchester United's future success will depend on a combination of strategic decision-making, managerial leadership, and on-field performance.
Manchester United is changing in hierarchy and this is one thing the fans had always wanted so badly. Well it’s happening and we’re seeing it in our time. Well the hopes are high and no one is certain yet on any decision that could be taken. With Jim Ratcliffe, an English business man, he’s already making some new additions to the directors of the club and you can see how the additions are very key and they’re a better way of reviving the club that’s almost forgotten. You can appreciate h the efforts he’s putting in trying to bring this team back to life.

 Well the rumors of Southgate taking over started some days back and you can understand that there’s a bit of truth in that rumor especially as Ratcliffe is an English man and he’ll want to Favour his English Family. This is as similar to the Chelsea takeover and Potter hiring. Southgate will be a disaster at Manchester United as ti me ETH is still a better choice than Southgate in handling that Manchester United squad. Southgate is not a coach with enough win ratios as the numbers while At England National Team speaks for itself.

 Southgate reply when he was asked showed that the rumor could be true to an extent and if this happens, I bet it could be disastrous for the club’s growth. I think Eth should be given a little more time as he’s really done well with this squad though thi season haven’t been a good one at all. 2Ratcliffe is really working fast and The fans hopes he’s able to make the right decisions. One more thing he should try to do is to employ a good director of sports who’ll head the transfer of players and signing of players as this will somehow reduce the load off the coach to an extent and this will be a good move to reviving the Manchester United team.
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I think it's also rude that we are always linked Southgate to another club that still has a coach in there. Southgate is also focused on the National team which I think is more prestigious than if he coaches the club. If England get the Euro Trophy for this year, The FA will extend his contract which runs out in the summer which I think will be a motivation in itself to get euro 2024 champions and as england coach.

In fact, this is a common thing where each team can be linked with several potential new coaches if the coach is temporarily unable to provide progress for the team. Manchester United actually have to be more patient with Erik Ten Hag because he has made progress for Manchester United. Apart from that, of course everything is in the hands of Sir Jim Ratcliffe where he will be the new boss and he plans to rebuild Manchester United into a stronger team.

Now for Southgate, he is currently linked with Manchester United, but it is not certain whether Sir Jim Ratcliffe really wants to use Southgate services or prefers to stay with Erik Ten Hag. However, if Erik Ten Hag fails to bring Manchester United to a top 4 finish this season then it is very likely that he will not have another chance to coach Manchester United.
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Regardless of whether in the end this is true or not, we will continue to wait for the development of this rumor to be like what but indeed if you look at the current situation I actually doubt this a little because indeed the news that Southgate is said to be the successor to the Manchester United coach now seems too exaggerated.
In the modern era like today we cannot avoid speculation that continues to circulate and even just need a little reference for the media to continue to raise the news regardless of whether it is true or not, at this time we cannot deny if Manchester United is in a crisis that makes them continue to be hampered from developing, the philosophy that has been put forward by Ten Hag in Manchester actually failed miserably and made Manchester United lag behind the title challenger team In recent seasons and made Mamchester United linked with Southgate.

What you assume is quite true, because it seems that Souhtgate's situation in the England national team is also like Ten Hag in Manchester who has failed to improve the team's performance, currently Southgate has a contract until December 2024 and I think the FA will also not give a new contract if Southgate fails again at the Euros this season,  I think if Manchester United really want to sign Southgate, they should think again because after all this time Southgate has not been able to bring good achievements to England.
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