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All in all, this is exactly why I believe that Liverpool will win the league, not because they have no injured players, sometimes they do, and they are missing Alisson as the most important one if I remember right, so it is not that Liverpool is 100%, but at the same time we need to remember that they play very well no matter who is missing, it is a team ball that they play.

There are still 10 matches to be played by Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City. If it weren't for Liverpool having a player on the injury list, it might be because Liverpool would be facing a team that is weaker in quality. If you really consider this, I think it could be the reason they are more favored to win the EPL title.

Rather than Liverpool or Manchester City, I want Arsenal to win the EPL title this season to break the curse of never lifting the EPL trophy for a very long time. So with Arteta as Arsenal coach, let Arsenal party even though in the remaining 10 matches Arsenal will face a team that might be considered stronger.
in fact currently Liverpool has to face the same/repeated problem since the start of the season with many or many of their main players being injured.
And Kloop has been able to overcome this problem so far, so I won't underestimate Liverpool in the title race even though many of their main players are injured.

Everyone's desires will be different, but I think it will be very difficult for Arsenal to win the Premier League this season, even in percentage terms, between Liverpool and Man City, I put Arsenal at the bottom of the list.
My reason is quite simple, this team hasn't had a good mentality since last season and I don't think Arteta has been able to fix that this season.
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Yep apart from Mancity, Aston also still has to face Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Brighton at home. And it looks like they might lose many points from these matches.
Meanwhile for Tottenham, they also still have to play against Chelsea, Mancity, Newcastle, Arsenal and Liverpool.
Manutd clearly still has a chance to be in the top 4 of the league at the end of this season, as long they dont waste any more points against relatively weaker teams.
United also still have tough games against Newcastle, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal. Tottenham still has 1 match left against City and United will only face mediocre teams. I think United will have to work hard if they want to get fourth place. They are 6 points behind Tottenham and 9 points behind Aston Villa. They also still have some tough games ahead. I think position 4 will be a competition between Tottenham and Aston Villa. United's chances are very small. It looks like they will not play in international competitions next season.
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All in all, this is exactly why I believe that Liverpool will win the league, not because they have no injured players, sometimes they do, and they are missing Alisson as the most important one if I remember right, so it is not that Liverpool is 100%, but at the same time we need to remember that they play very well no matter who is missing, it is a team ball that they play.

There are still 10 matches to be played by Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City. If it weren't for Liverpool having a player on the injury list, it might be because Liverpool would be facing a team that is weaker in quality. If you really consider this, I think it could be the reason they are more favored to win the EPL title.

Rather than Liverpool or Manchester City, I want Arsenal to win the EPL title this season to break the curse of never lifting the EPL trophy for a very long time. So with Arteta as Arsenal coach, let Arsenal party even though in the remaining 10 matches Arsenal will face a team that might be considered stronger.
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The match on April 7th will be different, Liverpool will have much greater motivation because they are competing fiercely in the race for the title this season and it is also very likely that several of Liverpool's main players will recover from injuries, making it possible to make the Liverpool team's performance much stronger than in several matches this season. this was against Manchester United.

That is more realistic because Manchester United has been very inconsistent this season, and I see that in terms of strength Arsenal is much better than Manchester United this season and that must be admitted so I think Manchester United will be beaten by Arsenal again.

I think your expectations are too high.lol
Manchester United's performance has been very inconsistent throughout this season so it is also possible that this will continue to happen in the remaining matches of this season, and now Manchester United is very far behind Aston Villa, 9 points with 10 games remaining is not an easy thing to catch.
The game between Manchester United and Liverpool is one rivalry that never gets old and this one which will probably be Klopp’s last against Man United will be one that a lot of the Anfield fans will come out to watch. Also the fact that Liverpool haven’t gotten a victory over Man United this season makes this match view to get increased.

 Manchester United haven’t had the best of their form but yet still were able to eliminate Liverpool out of the FA Cup and were also able to hold them to a draw in the first leg of the league. Heading into the second leg which is in a week time, a lot expect United to still keep that momentum but I’m scared they might not be able to.

 ⁠The league is being chased by Liverpool and before that match they’ll be having the return of the likes of Trent and Jota who Are major players for this Liverpool sjde and as such will be going all out to get all 3 points to be able to still keep their title hopes alive. Manchester United too are in a bid to get to UCL spot for next season and as such this match will have all the excitements.
 
 Moreover, the match between United and Arsenal I believe if United can get serious they might be able to spoil the party for this Arsenal side as United haven’t won this Arsenal side this season and wouldn’t consider losing to them again the second time. United have some key matches in their run for UCL Spot next season and as such you can tell how much work and effort they need to put in to achieve something at least.
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Of course it doesn't have to be Southgate. I just talked about it because of the recent rumours going around.  Smiley  There are surely better options with really good careers.

I have already mentioned Conte as an example. He is familiar with the Premier League already you know. He has a nice history with Chelsea like winning a Premier League and an FA Cup titles. Maybe he would be considered as one of the candidates in case of deciding to sack Erik ten Hag. However there are new rumours like Sir Jim Ratcliffe can give another chance to Erik ten Hag for next season. If this happens they had better make their transfers properly in the summer.

Manchester United will be damned if they think that Gareth Southgate would do a better job than Erik Ten Hag in the long run, then they must be fucking blind.
England manager and he is yet to win a single trophy with the national team. Is this the so called coach that would defeat Manchester City, Liverpool and also win Manchester United the Premier League and the Champions League Competition? They shouldn't forget that no English Coach has ever won the Premier League Competition and Gareth Southgate would be of no good use. Both Michael Carrick and David Moyes are far better than him.

Antonio Conte works with already made players, I see that the plans of Manchester United would be to develop youngins just as Sir Alex Ferguson did with the 92 set of players and ahead.
Erik Ten Hag or Roberto De Zebri would do grand. But how good is Zebri if he handles a top club like Manchester United?
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Guardiola being confidence in beating Arsenal is reasonable if we look at how Manchester City reacted to ending season games. They were always so strong in the ending phase of a season. Manchester City's consistency teamwork indeed make them favorite to the title race. The familiarity and synergy among the players from the previous season can be a significant advantage in maintaining momentum and pushing for success.

Competitors like Liverpool and Arsenal have their own strengths and aspirations, and the title race is likely to be fiercely contested until the final whistle of the last match. Placing confidence in Manchester City's prospects to win the league is just common sense given their track record and current form. Three horses race till the end makes things complicated for each team, because one mistake can cost big by being overtaken by the other two.
In fact, what is more accurate to say is that Pep Guardiola confidence is simply that he has a more reliable squad than Arteta troops and without me explaining, everyone here understands the comparison of the players that Pep Guardiola is currently relying on the most Pep Guardiola still has skills and is younger in age while Arsenal might also have an attacking player but not as reliable as the attackers that Manchester City has.
I will never hesitate to always say that Manchester City can always beat Arsenal and overtake Liverpool.
Even though there are currently strong challengers such as Arsenal and Liverpool, Manchester is still the favorite as the club holding the title this season.
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Both teams have too many players that are doubtful, and usually when players are doubtful that is more likely for them to not play and rest to make sure they are doing fine. I get that it may look like they might play too, and if they really need one of them, they may force him to give it a try but that would only work if the player feels okay to play as well.

All in all, this is exactly why I believe that Liverpool will win the league, not because they have no injured players, sometimes they do, and they are missing Alisson as the most important one if I remember right, so it is not that Liverpool is 100%, but at the same time we need to remember that they play very well no matter who is missing, it is a team ball that they play.
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You should also notice that Man United will also be playing against tough opponents like Liverpool and Arsenal, but with their current disposition, they might trip on much easier teams.
I think Aston Villa is probably already beyond United's reach, but, luckily, if the below source is correct, they only need to get to 5th place to play in the UCL next season:

ps. why do we have 2 EPL threads?

Manchester United hasn't lost to Liverpool though during the games they have played this season, but this final straw would mean alot since they'd be having players like Alexander Arnold and Diogo Jota returning and to be fit for the game against Manchester United, we will definitely come to that on the 7th of April.

For Arsenal, they have always got the better of Manchester United firbsine seasons, maybe Manchester United can try to challenge them this second leg. They lose the first game so I see no ho they'd want to repeat same lose against Arsenal. Anyways, Gunner's still remains my favorite club to win the Premier League Competition even if I'm fond of Manchester United.

I can't give a response to that honestly, but since it's kickin' smoothly without spammers, good then. We'd hope Manchester United overtakes Aston Villa then. Lol
The match on April 7th will be different, Liverpool will have much greater motivation because they are competing fiercely in the race for the title this season and it is also very likely that several of Liverpool's main players will recover from injuries, making it possible to make the Liverpool team's performance much stronger than in several matches this season. this was against Manchester United.

That is more realistic because Manchester United has been very inconsistent this season, and I see that in terms of strength Arsenal is much better than Manchester United this season and that must be admitted so I think Manchester United will be beaten by Arsenal again.

I think your expectations are too high.lol
Manchester United's performance has been very inconsistent throughout this season so it is also possible that this will continue to happen in the remaining matches of this season, and now Manchester United is very far behind Aston Villa, 9 points with 10 games remaining is not an easy thing to catch.
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Why does it have to be Gareth Southgate? Gareth Southgate might be considered an experienced coach and as we know he has coached the England national team for quite a long time but until now he has not had any good achievements that he can present. So I think Gareth Southgate is not the coach that Man United needs right now. Maybe it would be better if Man United tried to sign Xabi Alonso. He may not have much experience, but what I see is that he is a coach who has a winning mentality and I think this is the kind of coach that Man United should get.

Of course it doesn't have to be Southgate. I just talked about it because of the recent rumours going around.  Smiley  There are surely better options with really good careers.

I have already mentioned Conte as an example. He is familiar with the Premier League already you know. He has a nice history with Chelsea like winning a Premier League and an FA Cup titles. Maybe he would be considered as one of the candidates in case of deciding to sack Erik ten Hag. However there are new rumours like Sir Jim Ratcliffe can give another chance to Erik ten Hag for next season. If this happens they had better make their transfers properly in the summer.

There are still many things that need to be considered in filling Ten Hag's position in the future as coach of the Manchester United club. Yes, even though many candidates have been mentioned, such as Roberto De Zerbi, Thomas Frank and Gareth Southgate, of course ESPN is still considering it carefully by looking at the credibility of each candidate to replace Ten Hag. This certainly won't be easy or fast.
If the rumors you convey above are true, then this will be a joy for the Manchester United players and their fans because during his time as coach, Ten Hag had a big influence on the progress and development of the Manchester United club during this time because he was under his guidance. Ten Hag's guidance, the Manchester United players performed enthusiastically and made the Manchester United club a popular club throughout the world.
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Having games like;

Tottenham Hotspur against Manchester City and  Aston Villa against Manchester City is reason enough why nobody should write off Manchester United from qualifying for that top four position.

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Yep apart from Mancity, Aston also still has to face Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Brighton at home. And it looks like they might lose many points from these matches.
Meanwhile for Tottenham, they also still have to play against Chelsea, Mancity, Newcastle, Arsenal and Liverpool.
Manutd clearly still has a chance to be in the top 4 of the league at the end of this season, as long they dont waste any more points against relatively weaker teams.
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(...)City have the biggest chances, but the three teams are not that different. This is really very exciting to watch.

Yeah, if Man City manages to score 3 points on Arsenal this Sun, they'll be the massive favourite to win the EPL. They will still have games against Villa (home) and Tottenham (away) to play, but overall they'll have easier games than Liverpool or Arsenal.
Currently, the odds of winning the league are:
Man City: 2.2
Liverpool: 3.0
Arsenal: 3.75
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Romeo Lavia's last condition has been announced and it looks like he won't be able to play in the remaining part of the season either. Chelsea are really unlucky with their transfers. They have been struggling with many injuries for a long time. If the injury problem wasn't this serious would they be better? I can't be confident about it as well.  Sad


Lavia injury source: Transfermarkt

It is like all that money spent is for nothing. They are still in the middle of the league standings. Zero difference between last 2 seasons...
I checked on Google and Roméo Lavia only played once for Chelsea and don't know for sure whether it was full time or just as a substitute so Chelsea have had no luck with player transfers this season because not only Roméo Lavia was injured but several of their new players experienced the same thing even though not a long injury like Roméo Lavia.

Chelsea felt a loss because the value of Roméo Lavia was quite high when Chelsea bought him and that was because there were two clubs who made offers to Southampton to get this player, with the long injury suffered by this defender, it is very possible for Chelsea to be aggressive again in the transfer market because so far their players have not performed as expected.
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Why does it have to be Gareth Southgate? Gareth Southgate might be considered an experienced coach and as we know he has coached the England national team for quite a long time but until now he has not had any good achievements that he can present. So I think Gareth Southgate is not the coach that Man United needs right now. Maybe it would be better if Man United tried to sign Xabi Alonso. He may not have much experience, but what I see is that he is a coach who has a winning mentality and I think this is the kind of coach that Man United should get.

Of course it doesn't have to be Southgate. I just talked about it because of the recent rumours going around.  Smiley  There are surely better options with really good careers.

I have already mentioned Conte as an example. He is familiar with the Premier League already you know. He has a nice history with Chelsea like winning a Premier League and an FA Cup titles. Maybe he would be considered as one of the candidates in case of deciding to sack Erik ten Hag. However there are new rumours like Sir Jim Ratcliffe can give another chance to Erik ten Hag for next season. If this happens they had better make their transfers properly in the summer.
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Arsenal ambition to get the complete three points at Etihad stadium which will be difficult for them because Manchester City haven’t lost any match at Etihad stadium this season; for this reason, I am also thinking that Manchester City will win the match because if they lose the match, they will slightly lose their chance of winning the Premier League this season. Nevertheless, Arsenal will not also let them beat them easily because they knew what Manchester City did to them last season; they (Arsenal) will want to make history by defeating Manchester City to give them more hope of winning the league. Therefore, I am expecting a draw in the match.
In their last meeting, Arsenal were able to get the full 3 points against Manchester City, but it was held at the Emirates Stadium, so Arsenal had the advantage because they played as hosts. So they were able to make it difficult for the guests club and managed to win the match even with a narrow score. In this second meeting, Arsenal also really want to beat Manchester City again but it seems like they are facing difficulties because Manchester City is playing as host while Arsenal is coming as a guest so Arsenal's chance of winning is not as big as Manchester City's. But with Arsenal's current performance, even though it is difficult to get 3 points, at least Arsenal can maximize the draw and share points together to continue competing for the Premier League title.

Manchester City and Arsenal are in good form at the moment so it is quite difficult to determine who will win the match even though statistically Manchester City has the advantage of playing at home, but this is the injury problem that Manchester City must overcome so that they are not overwhelmed when they face Arsenal later.

This is definitely an ambitious target for Arsenal to get three points from this match. But what else are they going to do? They have to go for a win. Because that is going to be the difference maker. If Arsenal wants to win the English Premier League competition, they will have to win this one. And it is the same for Manchester City as well. They will have to get an upper hand if they actually want to win the English Premier League title. But Manchester City is going to be under more pressure because they also have to think about the Champions League competition as well.

If we just talk about the match between Arsenal and Manchester City, I think there is a big chance that the match ends in a draw. And I think there is a very less chance of being a goalless draw in this match. I am pretty sure there are going to be multiple goals in this match

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You should also notice that Man United will also be playing against tough opponents like Liverpool and Arsenal, but with their current disposition, they might trip on much easier teams.
I think Aston Villa is probably already beyond United's reach, but, luckily, if the below source is correct, they only need to get to 5th place to play in the UCL next season:

ps. why do we have 2 EPL threads?

Manchester United hasn't lost to Liverpool though during the games they have played this season, but this final straw would mean alot since they'd be having players like Alexander Arnold and Diogo Jota returning and to be fit for the game against Manchester United, we will definitely come to that on the 7th of April.

For Arsenal, they have always got the better of Manchester United firbsine seasons, maybe Manchester United can try to challenge them this second leg. They lose the first game so I see no ho they'd want to repeat same lose against Arsenal. Anyways, Gunner's still remains my favorite club to win the Premier League Competition even if I'm fond of Manchester United.

I can't give a response to that honestly, but since it's kickin' smoothly without spammers, good then. We'd hope Manchester United overtakes Aston Villa then. Lol
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ps. why do we have 2 EPL threads?

It is probably due to reaching thousands of pages on the old Premier League thread. It is a mega thread now and spam is much more common there. Maybe you will question why it isn't locked, I don't know.  Grin



Romeo Lavia's last condition has been announced and it looks like he won't be able to play in the remaining part of the season either. Chelsea are really unlucky with their transfers. They have been struggling with many injuries for a long time. If the injury problem wasn't this serious would they be better? I can't be confident about it as well.  Sad


Lavia injury source: Transfermarkt

It is like all that money spent is for nothing. They are still in the middle of the league standings. Zero difference between last 2 seasons...

Buying Lavio is clearly the stupidest mistake made by Chelsea when it needs a good midfielder. Lavia was prone often to get injuries and will be out of the club for several months again which is very bad for the club. The injury has destroyed his career, and I'm not sure if Lavia will be able to play for Chelsea next season. It means that Chelsea will work hard to make the situation even better by selling him to another club since it sounds impossible to happen but i hope he will out even he has not yet made his debut in chelsea.

That is a terrible recruitment by Chelsea's scouting team, and I have no idea what is going on with them these days. They appeared to be inexperienced in recruiting new talent, and Chelsea has yet again delivered bad news. Lavia's career is probably over this time.

His tendency to injure himself appears to be difficult to overcome. It appears that God has decided Chelsea's fate to play without Lavio for the upcoming season. What a terrible signing from the club. Chelsea can do better than recruit him.
Very disappointed with Lavia's injury; it will take even longer than expected.
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People are now putting all of their focus on the clash between the city and Many people are doubting the performance of the city and Arsenal because there have been several players who have been rumored to be injured. It will be obviously impacting the performance from city and arsenal
There have been also latest update regarding the list of injury players in manchester city and arsenal.

Manchester city



Arsenal


Source: https://www.90min.com/posts/man-city-vs-arsenal-injuries-every-player-ruled-premier-league
 
It can be seen that Timber has been officially out of the squad against Manchester City. Several reports have said that some players, such as De Bruyne, Grealish, and Saka, will be coming back in the clash between Arsenal and Manchester City. We shall wait for a further update regarding this.
We may be seeing some surprises once the official line up will be officially published by EPL.

Based on my observations, certain players are on the injury list but will still participate in this match. For example, De Bruyne, a player for Manchester City, will play because his injury is not too serious and, as far as I can tell, nothing will happen to him—the team simply doesn't want him to travel to international competitions in order to avoid getting hurt. De Bruyne, a key player for Manchester City, recently returned from an injury that had not lasted more than two months. The team knows that losing him would make it extremely difficult for them to win any leagues this season, even though Walker's injury is not serious, and they don't want anything to happen to him because they have important matches after international matches.

Regarding Arsenal, Bukayo Saka will play the game. His injury is not too serious, as we recall; prior to the injury, Saka had not participated in any international matches, not even in training. I have noticed that teams these days are smart and do not want to risk having one of their key players injured. Every team is hiding their players, which is a good thing because if we look at these international matches, many players who will return later on will return with injuries.
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ps. why do we have 2 EPL threads?

It is probably due to reaching thousands of pages on the old Premier League thread. It is a mega thread now and spam is much more common there. Maybe you will question why it isn't locked, I don't know.  Grin



Romeo Lavia's last condition has been announced and it looks like he won't be able to play in the remaining part of the season either. Chelsea are really unlucky with their transfers. They have been struggling with many injuries for a long time. If the injury problem wasn't this serious would they be better? I can't be confident about it as well.  Sad


Lavia injury source: Transfermarkt

It is like all that money spent is for nothing. They are still in the middle of the league standings. Zero difference between last 2 seasons...
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One of the three will win that is for sure, and fans of each team will want their team to win and will claim to be the better team. I think Arsenal is not that great, not as good as the other two, they are "looking" good there is no doubt about that because everything worked well for them so far, but I think they are not the team that can finish a season strong, we will probably see them crack under the pressure, this is only the second time they are in this place.

Liverpool and City on the other hand has been here for many times and they could probably finish stronger, I am guessing that we are going to end up with something that will change a lot, that should be the most important thing and I am guessing it won't be that weird.
certainly one of them will lead at the end of the season but it won't be that easy because last season there is only competition between Arsenal and Man City, but this season Liverpool have returned to participate in the EPL title this season so that the competition becomes very interesting but I still say there is no Arsenal opportunities because as you say that Arsenal who have too heavy pressure this season when they have to compete in the quarter finals of the UCL after a long time never managed strong from the Bundesliga.
well, this is the difficulty that must be faced by Arteta when they have to rotate the Arsenal players perfectly to maintain the quality of Arsenal performance and I am sure that Arsenal still fail.
TBH, I want to see Liverpool who will later become a leader at the end of the season and we can see the odds given by the bookie for the EPL winner this season Liverpool became the second favorite team after Man City with Odds @3.00 and Man City @2.20
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People are now putting all of their focus on the clash between the city and Many people are doubting the performance of the city and Arsenal because there have been several players who have been rumored to be injured. It will be obviously impacting the performance from city and arsenal
There have been also latest update regarding the list of injury players in manchester city and arsenal.

Manchester city



Arsenal


Source: https://www.90min.com/posts/man-city-vs-arsenal-injuries-every-player-ruled-premier-league
 
It can be seen that Timber has been officially out of the squad against Manchester City. Several reports have said that some players, such as De Bruyne, Grealish, and Saka, will be coming back in the clash between Arsenal and Manchester City. We shall wait for a further update regarding this.
We may be seeing some surprises once the official line up will be officially published by EPL.
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