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Those are the two clubs that are capable of overthrowing Manchester City as the Champions in EPL they're performing better than every other team and that's why they're currently unbeaten so far, well im not suprised at Arsenal's performance cause they almost won the league last season but bottled it to finish 2nd however Tottenham's performance this season is really amazing they were no were close to the top four or even did well last season but there new coach has turned them into a very strong title contenders this season.

 Well Pep Guardiola is not a  kind of coach that gives up easily and i believe he'll be working on ways of getting back to the top of the table but winning the league won't be easy for him this season cause it seems Tottenham and Arsenal are really prepared in taking over.
Guardiola's team is much worse than last year. It's only week 8 and they've already lost 2. The absence of Ilkay Gundogan and De Bruyne is obvious. It is also a question mark whether there was a need for so many new players. This is what happens when you play with the genes of the team so much. Last year, man city won those matches with the incredible performance of İlkay Gündoğan, especially in the cl matches with his constant goals and assists. It is obviously bad for manchester city to lose ilkay gündoğan who performs well in high and good matches. Obviously City will not be as dominant as last year.
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Maybe it is regarding "oh finally" let go type of thing, they won all three at the same time and shown the world what they could do, that should be more than enough for them to feel fine right now and that style of "letting it go finally" is what we are seeing today. I am not saying that it's guaranteed like that, but I think it should be an important part of it.

I think the best thing to do in this case would be just letting them play the way they want to play and the result will show itself. City also has some missing players, mainly KDB, and that could be one of the reasons as well, they may "look" much worse, but they are still close to the top, and doing fine, I think if KDB comes back, then the yare going to end up being better again.
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There is a Chelsea - Arsenal match closing in on us. What are your thoughts about it?

Personally I think that Chelsea's job is still very difficult in Stamford Bridge despite the progress they made in their last 2 matches. Those wins are important to start believing in themselves more of course. But still they were wins against smaller teams. It is a mystery what they can do in this big match while Arsenal are in great shape. Arsenal got past a bigger obstacle like Manchester City in Emirates. I think that they are the closer side to win the match against Chelsea as well.

Chelsea need more contribution from their attackers. And I feel like this can only happen after Nkunku starts training with the team.
That's a derby between two great London sides and one team is currently performing well and fighting hard to maintain the top four and probably win the league this season while the other is underperforming but is recently recovering it's form, therefore it's not going to be easy for both side cause regardless of their level of performance  they'll be so careful not to concede in a derby, however Arsenal are the favorites to win the game based on their current performance and the fact that they won the league champions, but Chelsea would be playing with a home advantage and could make it tough for Arsenal in their home ground.

 Well I feel it's going to be a draw match, most people feel Arsenal are definitely going to win the game, but I'm not going to write off Chelsea cause they're rediscovering their form and could bring that same energy dey had against Burnley in the match my prediction is a 1-1 draw.
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There is a Chelsea - Arsenal match closing in on us. What are your thoughts about it?

Personally I think that Chelsea's job is still very difficult in Stamford Bridge despite the progress they made in their last 2 matches. Those wins are important to start believing in themselves more of course. But still they were wins against smaller teams. It is a mystery what they can do in this big match while Arsenal are in great shape. Arsenal got past a bigger obstacle like Manchester City in Emirates. I think that they are the closer side to win the match against Chelsea as well.

Chelsea need more contribution from their attackers. And I feel like this can only happen after Nkunku starts training with the team.
This match is going to be a tough match as we all know,because Arsenal are all going for  the three points,while Chelsea will be looking for a way to stop them.My Joy is that Arsenal wingers like Saka who missed Manchester City's game due to injury would be available,and Martinelli who scored the only  winning Goal against City will also be in contention in that game.Its going to be very entertaining match to watch,and I'm going to back the gunners to flog them like 3-0.Chelsea will want to prove their strength,and be tested against a good side,and if they can get a draw in this match,then I think their confidence will be back a little.
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There is a Chelsea - Arsenal match closing in on us. What are your thoughts about it?

Personally I think that Chelsea's job is still very difficult in Stamford Bridge despite the progress they made in their last 2 matches. Those wins are important to start believing in themselves more of course. But still they were wins against smaller teams. It is a mystery what they can do in this big match while Arsenal are in great shape. Arsenal got past a bigger obstacle like Manchester City in Emirates. I think that they are the closer side to win the match against Chelsea as well.

Chelsea need more contribution from their attackers. And I feel like this can only happen after Nkunku starts training with the team.
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The performance from Tottenham has been really good so far this season. Like no one should have any complaints, literally. They have not lost even a single match so far. and I can already say that the performance is better already compared to the last season. Now it is only a question for them if they can continue performing consistently like this or not.


Tottenham and Arsenal are both unbeaten this season so it is difficult to determine who will win the title in the Premier league and Manchester City will not let that happen. Manchester City will try hard to catch up on points with them because there is only a small difference.

and yes this will be a fierce battle for the three of them to win the title this season but My hunch is on Arsenal for some reason seeing Arsenal's current unbeaten performance makes me a little confident that Arsenal will be able to win the trophy this season.
Those are the two clubs that are capable of overthrowing Manchester City as the Champions in EPL they're performing better than every other team and that's why they're currently unbeaten so far, well im not suprised at Arsenal's performance cause they almost won the league last season but bottled it to finish 2nd however Tottenham's performance this season is really amazing they were no were close to the top four or even did well last season but there new coach has turned them into a very strong title contenders this season.

 Well Pep Guardiola is not a  kind of coach that gives up easily and i believe he'll be working on ways of getting back to the top of the table but winning the league won't be easy for him this season cause it seems Tottenham and Arsenal are really prepared in taking over.
Guardiola's team is much worse than last year. It's only week 8 and they've already lost 2. The absence of Ilkay Gundogan and De Bruyne is obvious. It is also a question mark whether there was a need for so many new players. This is what happens when you play with the genes of the team so much. Last year, man city won those matches with the incredible performance of İlkay Gündoğan, especially in the cl matches with his constant goals and assists. It is obviously bad for manchester city to lose ilkay gündoğan who performs well in high and good matches. Obviously City will not be as dominant as last year.
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Those are the two clubs that are capable of overthrowing Manchester City as the Champions in EPL they're performing better than every other team and that's why they're currently unbeaten so far, well im not suprised at Arsenal's performance cause they almost won the league last season but bottled it to finish 2nd however Tottenham's performance this season is really amazing they were no were close to the top four or even did well last season but there new coach has turned them into a very strong title contenders this season.

 Well Pep Guardiola is not a  kind of coach that gives up easily and i believe he'll be working on ways of getting back to the top of the table but winning the league won't be easy for him this season cause it seems Tottenham and Arsenal are really prepared in taking over.
The opportunity is still open for Man City to regain its position in the middle or end of the season. Meanwhile, Tottenham and Arsenal, who is currently quite strong, must remain careful because in the Premier League, slipping is a part they cannot avoid. The competition that we will see will usually become more exciting at the end of the season, each club will maximize the opportunities they have, even seeing that clubs that want to survive the relegation zone will definitely try their best.

Appreciation for Tottenham's new coach, for being able to provide fresh air while maintaining consistency, Ange Postecoglou deserves praise. If you look at Tottenham this season without Kane, it's even more solid, right? Whether you realize it or not, personally the game is more balanced.
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Ange Postecoglou has made a huge change in the team after taking the Tottenham job. Tottenham are playing at a much more different level now compared to last season. They are able to play like this even though Kane has left the team. Because it has always been about team play. If you don't play a good football as a team then it doesn't matter whether you have a world class player in your squad.

What do you think about Tottenham's look in general of the season? Do you think they can really be a title contender this season?
The right choice for a team owner in choosing a coach, maybe the coach is not very popular but he has the ability or many achievements in the world of football, such as the Japanese League, Australian League, etc. the tough task that this coach is doing to reach the highest peak of the English league, he must be consistent in every match. This coach is usually quite good at developing the game, namely with aggressive attacks and quite solid defense. Entering the 8th match, Tottenham Hotspur have not experienced defeat, this is strong evidence for Tottenham now, will this coach succeed in winning, Tottenham has been fasting for a title for a long time.

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The performance from Tottenham has been really good so far this season. Like no one should have any complaints, literally. They have not lost even a single match so far. and I can already say that the performance is better already compared to the last season. Now it is only a question for them if they can continue performing consistently like this or not.


Tottenham and Arsenal are both unbeaten this season so it is difficult to determine who will win the title in the Premier league and Manchester City will not let that happen. Manchester City will try hard to catch up on points with them because there is only a small difference.

and yes this will be a fierce battle for the three of them to win the title this season but My hunch is on Arsenal for some reason seeing Arsenal's current unbeaten performance makes me a little confident that Arsenal will be able to win the trophy this season.
Those are the two clubs that are capable of overthrowing Manchester City as the Champions in EPL they're performing better than every other team and that's why they're currently unbeaten so far, well im not suprised at Arsenal's performance cause they almost won the league last season but bottled it to finish 2nd however Tottenham's performance this season is really amazing they were no were close to the top four or even did well last season but there new coach has turned them into a very strong title contenders this season.

 Well Pep Guardiola is not a  kind of coach that gives up easily and i believe he'll be working on ways of getting back to the top of the table but winning the league won't be easy for him this season cause it seems Tottenham and Arsenal are really prepared in taking over.
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The performance from Tottenham has been really good so far this season. Like no one should have any complaints, literally. They have not lost even a single match so far. and I can already say that the performance is better already compared to the last season. Now it is only a question for them if they can continue performing consistently like this or not.

I think they will be able to perform consistently if they do not face some serious injury problems. Which I really hope that they don't. right now they have the same points as well as goal difference with Arsenal. The reason Tottenham is at first place in the table is they have scored more goals compared to Arsenal. So even though the goal difference is the same, Tottenham is at the top. I can already sense that it is going to be a really hard fight for that title this season.

Tottenham and Arsenal are both unbeaten this season so it is difficult to determine who will win the title in the Premier league and Manchester City will not let that happen. Manchester City will try hard to catch up on points with them because there is only a small difference.

and yes this will be a fierce battle for the three of them to win the title this season but My hunch is on Arsenal for some reason seeing Arsenal's current unbeaten performance makes me a little confident that Arsenal will be able to win the trophy this season.
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 He has proved to everyone that he's the right man to make Tottenham a great club and probably give them their 1st league trophy, well I won't be too quick about giving them the league trophy cause it's not going to come easy, Arsenal, Mancity and Liverpool are still very strong contenders, however Tottenham's performance shocked everyone and I think Postecoglou deserves the Motm award for what he's done at Tottenham currently.


Tottenham has performed exceptionally this season. They are still unbeaten along with Arsenal. However, I think Tottenham are much better and from the previous season they were title contenders who had finished runners up several times in the League. Although I'm not too sure they will be able to win the title if you look at the current squad and how competitive the English league is now. Maybe I can say that the era of the top four or top five is over and team dynamics are moving quickly. I mean at the moment there are a lot of surprises that have happened in the Premier League and to be honest there have been several times where I have made mistakes in betting. Or perhaps more precisely, my losses in betting on the clubs that I favored.

Something that really catches my attention is that since Kane left the Tottenham boys have done better, since now I thought they were going down due to his lack, well it's quite the opposite, apparently this team has had to overcome Quickly because they have no other choice , for me the best was Kane , I don't know, but the team had to play much more to be able to cover that fact, and that is something I admire, because the Bayern at the time when they sold Lewa because it was very difficult for them to fill that huge gap, now things are different, they have a lot more work now, well, when things are for this team , one thinks , Tottenham does not stand out much, and Now without Kane, even more so I believe that things are going well for these teams, sometimes these changes are Fundamental to continue improving.


The performance from Tottenham has been really good so far this season. Like no one should have any complaints, literally. They have not lost even a single match so far. and I can already say that the performance is better already compared to the last season. Now it is only a question for them if they can continue performing consistently like this or not.

I think they will be able to perform consistently if they do not face some serious injury problems. Which I really hope that they don't. right now they have the same points as well as goal difference with Arsenal. The reason Tottenham is at first place in the table is they have scored more goals compared to Arsenal. So even though the goal difference is the same, Tottenham is at the top. I can already sense that it is going to be a really hard fight for that title this season.
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Something that really catches my attention is that since Kane left the Tottenham boys have done better, since now I thought they were going down due to his lack, well it's quite the opposite,
Imagine how Harry Kane will feel if just as he left Tottenham this season, they now go ahead to win the premier league. He will be happy with the club for their success but will feel somehow because he was not a part of the success after dedicating so many years to the club to help achieve that dream.

Premier League side fear they will lose star striker to Tottenham in January
Brentford should not worry about this so much, that is being without Ivan Tooney, because by now they should have adjusted already to games without him, and they have a player already in his place. He is a good player that they will be able to make good money from his sales, so as a club, they should already be prepared for sale.
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I think that win by Arsenal over Manchester City in Emirates could be an indicator of a thing for this season. I mean Arsenal might maintain the title competition until the final week this time. You know how they fought for it last season for a long time. However they started a really bad streak on the final weeks which eased Manchester City's job a lot.

This time Arsenal seem even more dedicated at least for now. Winning against Manchester City in a big game isn't easy normally.
Arsenal is no doubt a title contender but it's too early to see them as a favourite just because they won Manchester City, the defending champion. The league has just started, there's going to be more games to be played, there's going to be injury worries and a manager ability to keep his team fit will determine how far they will go. Last season, at some point the team became fatigued and most persons claimed that Arsenal's lack of depth cost them the EPL trophy. Arsenal might make same mistake again or it could be that Mikel Arteta has learnt his mistakes, but very soon time will tell.
You are completely right, I myself was among those who expected Arsenal to in the EPL trophy last season, but unfortunately, just as yo have said, just towards the end of the season, when they were expected to play even better than they have played since the beginning of the last season, I personally can not tell what actually happened to them, whether fatigue, or they become too overwhelmed, I cant say, all I know was that they started losing and drawing games which ordinarily, they should win easily. This indeed at the end of the season cost them the EPL trophy.

Personally though, i will want to believe that not just the manager/coach of the team, but the entire team as a whole must have learnt from that mistake, and are well prepared to make sure the same does not repeat itself again this season.

And yes, it is too early to begin to see Arsenal as the favorite team in the season, there are still a lot of games to be played just as you have said, but then, i hope Arsenal will continue to give us a good game play going even further to the end of the season.

I had imagined something like that with Arsenal, apart from beating the UCL champion, that means a lot, so Arsenal are not playing tricks, they know very well what they are doing, these types of teams are always outstanding and They can generate a lot of controversy, of course some of the Manchester City fans can say that it was pure luck or something similar, but no, things don't work like that, I have no doubt that some help could have been obtained, a luck that is never lacking , but not everything is luck, this is something that has a lot to do with the style of play, the way the players moved, the coach's strategy, since all this weighs when it comes to having a good impact, the Arsenal may be a team that is making a difference, however I remember that they are in one of the leagues that I believe is very difficult, all the teams are doing a great job, but I admire Arsenal.

Now, the things that can have an impact on the PL are something very considered, but yes, when a team like these can make a difference based on the things that a team like Manchester City can have as a base, one as a fan He says, well, they must be the best in Europe, therefore they can make a difference, and of course when other style competitions fail, a lot of analysis can be carried out, in part Pep Guardilo knows that some players left, that is why he now has strategies very different, because when you watch City's games you see that they have a Haaland who is hardly allowed to do much, but he is a player who makes the difference, in part this has taught many that Pep Guardiola is a gem, where Practically everything ends in victories, this is something that has been shown by teams like Barcelona who in their time were the best for quite some time, they had Messi, but now Haaland is here, they have to take advantage of him.


 He has proved to everyone that he's the right man to make Tottenham a great club and probably give them their 1st league trophy, well I won't be too quick about giving them the league trophy cause it's not going to come easy, Arsenal, Mancity and Liverpool are still very strong contenders, however Tottenham's performance shocked everyone and I think Postecoglou deserves the Motm award for what he's done at Tottenham currently.


Tottenham has performed exceptionally this season. They are still unbeaten along with Arsenal. However, I think Tottenham are much better and from the previous season they were title contenders who had finished runners up several times in the League. Although I'm not too sure they will be able to win the title if you look at the current squad and how competitive the English league is now. Maybe I can say that the era of the top four or top five is over and team dynamics are moving quickly. I mean at the moment there are a lot of surprises that have happened in the Premier League and to be honest there have been several times where I have made mistakes in betting. Or perhaps more precisely, my losses in betting on the clubs that I favored.

Something that really catches my attention is that since Kane left the Tottenham boys have done better, since now I thought they were going down due to his lack, well it's quite the opposite, apparently this team has had to overcome Quickly because they have no other choice , for me the best was Kane , I don't know, but the team had to play much more to be able to cover that fact, and that is something I admire, because the Bayern at the time when they sold Lewa because it was very difficult for them to fill that huge gap, now things are different, they have a lot more work now, well, when things are for this team , one thinks , Tottenham does not stand out much, and Now without Kane, even more so I believe that things are going well for these teams, sometimes these changes are Fundamental to continue improving.

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Brentford fear that they will lose Ivan Toney in January to Tottenham or another one of the Englishman’s suitors but the West London outfit are prepared for that outcome.

That is according to Football Insider, who reports that Toney is expected to leave the club in January once he returns to action following his long-term ban for breaching the FA’s gambling rules.

The England striker believes he is ready to take the next step in his career after an incredible campaign last season which saw him manage 21 goals and five assists across 35 games in all competitions – including a best-ever return of 20 strikes in the Premier League.

Tottenham are one club ready to move for the Brentford star as Spurs look to replace the goals of Harry Kane who left for Bayern Munich in the summer.

Source: https://www.caughtoffside.com/2023/10/15/premier-league-side-fear-they-will-lose-star-striker-to-tottenham-in-january/
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 He has proved to everyone that he's the right man to make Tottenham a great club and probably give them their 1st league trophy, well I won't be too quick about giving them the league trophy cause it's not going to come easy, Arsenal, Mancity and Liverpool are still very strong contenders, however Tottenham's performance shocked everyone and I think Postecoglou deserves the Motm award for what he's done at Tottenham currently.


Tottenham has performed exceptionally this season. They are still unbeaten along with Arsenal. However, I think Tottenham are much better and from the previous season they were title contenders who had finished runners up several times in the League. Although I'm not too sure they will be able to win the title if you look at the current squad and how competitive the English league is now. Maybe I can say that the era of the top four or top five is over and team dynamics are moving quickly. I mean at the moment there are a lot of surprises that have happened in the Premier League and to be honest there have been several times where I have made mistakes in betting. Or perhaps more precisely, my losses in betting on the clubs that I favored.
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He has made a lot of progress for Tottenham in his first season as Tottenham coach. Tottenham have managed to maintain their hopes in the Premier League by being undefeated so far and Ange Postecoglou's brilliant achievements have received extraordinary appreciation from Fans Tottenham. Because this season Tottenham have lost their goal machine and it doesn't seem to have any effect on their performance this season. I think that the good progress made by Ange Postecoglou will make him one of the most influential coaches this season.

Yes, I remember Erik Ten Hag in his first season with Manchester United last season. Where Erik Ten Hag was able to bring Manchester United to a good performance last season by closing the season in the top 3. But in his second season with Manchester United he did not show anything better than last season. So I hope Ange Postecoglou can maintain his best performance to continue to bring good development to Tottenham this season or next season. Not just one season and this season has only been running for 8 matches so there are many obstacles that he will have to overcome in the upcoming matches.
He has proved to everyone that he's the right man to make Tottenham a great club and probably give them their 1st league trophy, well I won't be too quick about giving them the league trophy cause it's not going to come easy, Arsenal, Mancity and Liverpool are still very strong contenders, however Tottenham's performance shocked everyone and I think Postecoglou deserves the Motm award for what he's done at Tottenham currently.

 Erik Ten Hag would had done better this season if the Manchester United board backed him up with lots of funds to help recruit better players especially from the defense area, and unlike Manchester United Tottenham might not be very wealthy but they've got good executives that could back Postecoglou to be successful in future if this season is very successful because he'll still face many challenges on the long run, and we'll be fully sure he the right man for the club when he overcomes those challenges.
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Ange Postecoglou has made a huge change in the team after taking the Tottenham job. Tottenham are playing at a much more different level now compared to last season. They are able to play like this even though Kane has left the team. Because it has always been about team play. If you don't play a good football as a team then it doesn't matter whether you have a world class player in your squad.

What do you think about Tottenham's look in general of the season? Do you think they can really be a title contender this season?
He has made a lot of progress for Tottenham in his first season as Tottenham coach. Tottenham have managed to maintain their hopes in the Premier League by being undefeated so far and Ange Postecoglou's brilliant achievements have received extraordinary appreciation from Fans Tottenham. Because this season Tottenham have lost their goal machine and it doesn't seem to have any effect on their performance this season. I think that the good progress made by Ange Postecoglou will make him one of the most influential coaches this season.

Yes, I remember Erik Ten Hag in his first season with Manchester United last season. Where Erik Ten Hag was able to bring Manchester United to a good performance last season by closing the season in the top 3. But in his second season with Manchester United he did not show anything better than last season. So I hope Ange Postecoglou can maintain his best performance to continue to bring good development to Tottenham this season or next season. Not just one season and this season has only been running for 8 matches so there are many obstacles that he will have to overcome in the upcoming matches.
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Ange Postecoglou has made a huge change in the team after taking the Tottenham job. Tottenham are playing at a much more different level now compared to last season. They are able to play like this even though Kane has left the team. Because it has always been about team play. If you don't play a good football as a team then it doesn't matter whether you have a world class player in your squad.

What do you think about Tottenham's look in general of the season? Do you think they can really be a title contender this season?
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I hope to see some improvement from the decisions of the referees after this break ends. The Premier League is called as the most prestigious European league. There is no place for such simple mistakes here.

Referees making controversial decisions are normal in football. There are many controversies that have been recorded in history. That's all in the past. Nowadays the world is sophisticated and football has used VAR which should be able to make referee decisions cleaner. It is very unfortunate when the most prestigious league in Europe or even in the world but the referee makes such a simple mistake. I really regret the referee's attitude.
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By the way what do you think about the referees in the league so far? Do you think they have been fair about their decisions generally? Because lately we have started to see huge mistakes by even VAR. You should remember the huge mistake made in the Tottenham - Liverpool game. Diaz's goal was a clean one but VAR disallowed it.  Sad

Let me tell you what I think about the referees right now. I also agree with you that there have been unbelievable mistakes despite the presence of VAR system. If even VAR is going to make such mistakes easily then what is the point of having it, right?

PGMOL also admitted after the match that Diaz's goal wasn't given unrightfully. We have seen a couple of incidents like this related to goals, cards and so on. I hope to see some improvement from the decisions of the referees after this break ends. The Premier League is called as the most prestigious European league. There is no place for such simple mistakes here.
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I think that win by Arsenal over Manchester City in Emirates could be an indicator of a thing for this season. I mean Arsenal might maintain the title competition until the final week this time. You know how they fought for it last season for a long time. However they started a really bad streak on the final weeks which eased Manchester City's job a lot.

This time Arsenal seem even more dedicated at least for now. Winning against Manchester City in a big game isn't easy normally.
Arsenal is no doubt a title contender but it's too early to see them as a favourite just because they won Manchester City, the defending champion. The league has just started, there's going to be more games to be played, there's going to be injury worries and a manager ability to keep his team fit will determine how far they will go. Last season, at some point the team became fatigued and most persons claimed that Arsenal's lack of depth cost them the EPL trophy. Arsenal might make same mistake again or it could be that Mikel Arteta has learnt his mistakes, but very soon time will tell.
You are completely right, I myself was among those who expected Arsenal to in the EPL trophy last season, but unfortunately, just as yo have said, just towards the end of the season, when they were expected to play even better than they have played since the beginning of the last season, I personally can not tell what actually happened to them, whether fatigue, or they become too overwhelmed, I cant say, all I know was that they started losing and drawing games which ordinarily, they should win easily. This indeed at the end of the season cost them the EPL trophy.

Personally though, i will want to believe that not just the manager/coach of the team, but the entire team as a whole must have learnt from that mistake, and are well prepared to make sure the same does not repeat itself again this season.

And yes, it is too early to begin to see Arsenal as the favorite team in the season, there are still a lot of games to be played just as you have said, but then, i hope Arsenal will continue to give us a good game play going even further to the end of the season.
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That is for sure. Even though they were able to achieve victory, it was not an easy victory against a team of Brentford's level. United are still far from a solid team. If we talk about the defense line, I agree with your opinion that Lindelof and Maguire are playing quite badly and I wonder why Manchester United is not looking for a replacement for the two of them? Is it because the substitute defender is far below them?

Varane hasn't been able to play properly since the beginning of the season. Because he got injured and he is newly getting fit. Martinez is still injured as it seems. In this situation Erik ten Hag's hands have been tied about this situation unfortunately. Otherwise I'm feeling sure that we would see neither Maguire nor Lindelof there.  Smiley



By the way what do you think about the referees in the league so far? Do you think they have been fair about their decisions generally? Because lately we have started to see huge mistakes by even VAR. You should remember the huge mistake made in the Tottenham - Liverpool game. Diaz's goal was a clean one but VAR disallowed it.  Sad
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