Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 370. (Read 70605 times)

It seems you are right that Manchester United without the presence of Rasmus Hojlund is just like a weak club because in the last few wins Rasmus Hojlund has contributed to scoring goals and I really understand why Erik Ten Hag really relies on this player because he really has better skills in terms of scoring. score.
I also thought that yesterday's match would end in a draw because both clubs gave each other resistance and defended their defenses together and indeed the score scored by Fulham's players in the last minute I never thought before that it was like the luck that Fulham got in yesterday's match.

Yesterday, Fulham seemed to have received a special gift from Manchester United, with Alex Iwobi being very fortunate in being able to score in the final minute which shocked the entire audience.
This is a valuable lesson for Erik Ten Hag not to just rely on one player but to develop the talents of MU players who are currently still able to appear on the field and if they only depend on Rasmus Hojlund, MU's future will not be as bright as last season.

Before the match against Fulham, Man United had 4 consecutive wins, but of these four matches, there was not a single match where Man United played with an impressive performance. Their playing rhythm is always monotonous and their defense line seems to have many weaknesses. Luckily they have Hojlund who is in his best form and it was proven already when Hojlund couldn't play, victory became a tough mission for Man United.

Apart from their defense which is filled with old players and players who don't have pace, Man United's midfield actually has a pretty good composition of players. But for some reason, they don't seem to have strong chemistry and some of them even look very selfish and reluctant to make passes when their teammates are in a good position to score a goal.

Manchester united was not even leading the game and this shall be evaluated by ten hag. Manchester united was playing so differently after it has been rotated by ten hag caused by rashford was playing as an attacker. The things are going even worst after iwobi was scoring another goal during injury time.
This makes MU has no hope to get at least 1 point when it was playing at home. I can see that how frustrated manchester united against fulham. People were seeing fulham as inferior club but things are changing so fast. Manchester united could not perform even better without hojlund.
Rashford is performing so badly as an attacker and this is also making the situation even worse for the club. I think that if everything can change anytime. Ten hag needs to be aware with the club and he shall not be stupid enough by not signing a new striker.

Manchester united really needs to get a new striker to help the club caused by once hojlund was injury and there was no good striker available to play in the club. It seems ten hag never trust martial anymore to play in the main squad and he prefers to use rashford as a striker which is so crazy.
I think that ten hag shall be nominated as the worst coach ever. He can't even put respect to his players and he was also putting his ego as his top priority. Martial can perform but ten hag refuses him to play against fulham.
This is another setback for manchester united for sure. Im thinking that united will able to perform better compared to the last match as long as ten hag will able to do proper rotation for the squad of manchester united. He needs to learn a lot from the match against fulham.

What do you mean successfull AFCON? Believe me it has nothing to do with this game. Your heading makes no sense and has nothing to do with lose of Manchester United.
The game was played with eleven players and if you want to take a good look at the build up to the goals scored by Alex Iwobi and Calvin Bassey all have come from them players. ( Adams and former Manchester United player  Perrera )

They did well I must say, they played like they wanted to win the match. I don't put much blames on Erik Ten Hag he has been working with the players within.
The Injured Casemiro affected Manchester United even if I know that Fulham United hurt Manchester United irrespective of his presence innthr first half.

Overall United played quite well last night. They can control the ball and have many opportunities. But as you said they often make mistakes. Their performance was unlike the previous few matches. To be honest I thought the match would end in a draw but surprisingly Fulham scored a goal in the 97th minute through Alex Iwobi. It was a very dramatic goal and I'm sure Ten Hag was also surprised by the goal. Aston Villa is now 8 points ahead. It's difficult for Manchester United if they hope to get a ticket to the Champions League.

It is good that you mentioned VAR as well. It brought really bad decision made to my mind even though the league has a really nice system like VAR. It is really shameful to see simple mistakes with even a useful technology in hand. These systems are developed to help the referees but some referees are still managing to leave a bad impact on a match with bad decisions. 



I agree about Arsenal's goal potential. We have seen it in a couple of PL matches they played not much time ago. They did it against Newcastle yesterday too. They are the second most scoring team of the season now but I don't know if this would end up with their championship. We need to see what they will do on the last weeks of the season.

So true. This defeat meant that Man United had no hope of finishing in the top four because the point difference with Aston Villa was very large. And breaking Man United's winning streak, this was also Man United's first defeat this year.

In this match, the Man United players made a lot of mistakes, always losing duels, always losing fights for the ball, and the front players didn't want to work together. The ball should have been passed but it still went nowhere, it was really boring to see Man United's ridiculous game. The referee gave nine minutes of additional time as a chance of victory for Man United. However, Fulham said differently, they managed to provide a surprise in the final minutes. Fulham's 2-1 victory over Man United was Fulham's first win at Old Trafford since 2003. After 21 years, Fulham finally managed to break their egg.

Exactly, missing him gave a very big impact to the performance from liverpool. I was feeling quite disappointed when i have heard that if salah was injured. I thought that if it was only a dream but that's happened. It was also affecting the club a lot. The attackers have lost their instict to play better without salah.
Nunez was also missing caused by injury too which is making the situation even more difficult for the club. It is not an easy task for Liverpool to find a replacement, but it is something they need to do. There have been reports suggesting that Liverpool is already considering potential replacements for Salah in the winger position, should he choose to depart from the club in the near future.
Things are going even harder since liverpool will be losing klopp as a good architect owned by the club. I do support liverpool to play better compared to the last season. Things are not going easy for the club but im sure livepool will able to find his replacement in the future.
We are still far away from the end of the season but many fans were talking about various possibilities that could be taken by the club. Yet the problem that will appear caused by the leave of klopp from liverpool has not yet solve.d
Liverpool is yet to finding a suitable replacement for him . This needs to take some times for liverpool to get a new coach to replace him in the club.

Liverpool has ever named a candidate to replace him but i think that this can also change with the goes of time. Im thinking about mbappe which can become the best replacement for him but since mbappe puts very expensive price to get him and im not really sure if liverpool was willing to approach him.
There's no sign showed by liverpool to sign mbappe. This club was never talking about this too. It's quite weaird how journalist can argue that liverpool took another step to get mbappe.

Manchester United was frustrated at the end of the game. They couldn't get three points at Old Trafford against an average club. Fulham coach, Marco Silva understands the game and ensure he plays according to plans, he defended all the important areas on the pitch, just relaxed and watch Erik Ten Hag and his men struggle for a draw tie but couldn't maintain 1-1 after equalizing, another dangerous counter was trigger by Fulham and a goal was conceded on the hosts end. Shocking to see both Fulham players that puts their name on the scoresheet are from Nigeria.

The defeat against Fulham meant that Manchester United winning streak had to end, losing in that match made it even more difficult for Manchester United to get into the top 4 and I think their chances of reaching the top 4 will be even more closed if Tottenham can win against Chelsea in the postponed match and make the goal difference will be bigger, for now we can see how dependent Manchester United is on Hojlund so that when Hojlund is absent it makes Manchester United's attack line quite dull, besides I think Manchester United's defeat cannot be separated from their poor defense and also Onana who made mistakes even though able to perform several saves in that match, the defeat against Fulham brought Manchester closer to again setting a record for the most home defeats in one season because Since 2020/2021, this is the first time Man United has experienced eight home defeats in all competitions, while the worst record is nine times lost at home in one season, which occurred in 1973/1974.

The title sound so funny but the message is well understood since the goal scorers were involved in the just concluded AFCON namely Bassey and Iwobi. Manchester United failed to win at home making Fulham to get their first away win this season i think the away team was better in the game even though they were unable to convert their chances but winning before the stoppage time gives them nothing but joy. The goal of Harry Maguire was supposed to make them share 1 points each but United still fell short as they conceded a late goal from Alex Iwobi the Nigerian player.

I also think so, for the second goal the goalkeeper cannot be blamed because it was a goal that should have occurred and if Onana managed to thwart that opportunity then he deserves to be given appreciation, which means that if a goal occurs it doesn't mean he can be blamed.
This is like the goalkeeper's position in a penalty shootout, when a goal is scored it's normal if they succeed in thwarting the penalty kick which means the goalkeeper deserves to be appreciated.

Basically, the overall performance of the Manchetser United team was not optimal in this match and it was very unfortunate that when the Man United team had managed to equalize, they continued to apply pressure so they forgot about their defense and the losing goal came at the end of the match.

And Hojlund is a hot topic of conversation now, when Hojlund is absent Manchester United's front line performance is very poor.
This means that it is clear that Hojlund is currently the most influential player on the front line of the Manchester United team.

Blaming Onana for the second goal actually in my opinion is too imposing and seems ridiculous because it just wants to give a mistake to him considering Onana often makes blunders but for this match it was too much when Onana was blamed.
There are some reasons that I think are forced if it's still blaming Onana. The second goal came with a quick counter-attack that was difficult to anticipate. Indeed in this case Onana was not in his coverage area and did not seem to want to force himself to move but I think that would not have happened if there was proper guarding for Iwobi because we know that with the fast counter-attack that was done actually Iwobi was without really good guarding which made him very easily able to score in this match while silencing Manchester United with a score of 1-2.

Onana in this match made saves that were actually very good and I think that is quite commendable, it's just that it seems like Ten Hag always tries some players like Mainoo who is used as a defensive midfielder even though he is very good as a second striker.
The loss of Hojlund is also very impactful in terms of Manchester United's attack because his finishing is still compromised.

Ez match for aston villa. Forest was trying to play defensively but it's not working. it's caused by there have been some miscom during the game. it makes club lost its concentration and watkins has opened the first goal. Aston villa was playing very well. This is very good for the club.

Aston is trying even harder to keep on the top 4 caused by this is the only way owned by the club to qualify for UCL next season. The journey till the end of season will not be an easy journey for aston villa. Aston was totally owning the game against notthingham forest. im not feeling doubt to see that since thse clubs have very big gap in term the quality of its players.
The result from this match was quite easy to predict unlike other match. Aston villa can full dominate the match adn this makes the club got three points. Emery must be pushing his players to go back no the right track again.

The result in the previous matches were very disappoting result but emery can do nothing since his players who were determining the result from the match, he can only push his team to get back their consistentcy again to win any EPL game till the end of season.
UCL shall be one of important target owned by the club. I know that the chance owned by aston villa to make it happen becomes even smaller since there are also some clubs are competing with villa. The chance will always there as long as there will be no very thin gap betwen villa and totenham.

Manchester united was losing three points. It makes mu's effort to get into the european competition spot become even smaller than before. We must also admit that how consistent the performance from onana by helped his team to lose three points.

Onana was piece of shit!

The second goal was completely onana's fault as he did nothing to prevent it to happen. The goal from meguire was almost making me feel so damn good to see united got draw but iwobi has destroyed it all. I thought that if MU was going to pinch fulham after meguire's goal but i was wrong.
A goal from iwobi was a nightmare for manchester united. It's also happening during injury time as well. United has lost their spirit after it was losing the good momentum. Fulham fans were so happy by seeing it but im guessing that majority of bettors disliked it coz they lost it once again. Missing hojlund was obviously impacting the club.
Even though hojlund itself was not consistent but he can at least contribute to the club. Fulham was getting three points and it have been securing its position from the bottom. MU didn't pinch this one and it's once again losing three points which are very important for the club to push it even higher.

MU has done well, defended well, tackled well but the goal keeper was still remain the worst thing that i have ever seen in manchester united. The fans shall have blamed him caused by the second goal was onana's mistake caused by he was not always in the ready position to block the bacll.
He keeps standing and did nothing. This is also destroying bettor's hope to get huge rewards. I wanna be optimistic but im not too sure caused by fuckin goal keeper which is making the club to lose three points. This time im hoping that MU is going to come out the worst performance and get a result.
At least UCL spot is far better rather than get nothing thiss eason. There are still some strong competitors like aston villa and totenham which are making the way to be even more difficult for MU to reach UCL spot.

Arsenal is not stable sometimes and we lost our last game in the Champions League the next people we are going to be playing will be Newcastle and they are one dangerous club even if they don't score they will make life very unbearable and difficult for to score, and true that we are expecting a very strong performance from arsenal but the problem is don't get your expectations too high because anything can happen during there play.  and true that Newcastle is not doing well this season but don't estimate them because on the day they can surprise you.

Arsenal is in form but let us see what the two have in store for their self I know Arsenal will not want to take any chances so there is a high chance of Arsenal winning because they will not want to fall behind and if we can win Newcastle then we still have much hope because there are other big clubs that we have to still play against so losing any game now will just put us in much bigger trouble.

Emery's boys must be happy to secure 4th place this week after the Nottingham win.     Watkins finally started to improve his finishing by recent matches. When he scores Aston Villa are able to win easier. I think Emery is already doing much more than the board's expectations. He is really one of the best managers in the recent years as he improves the way his team play wherever he goes to.

Watching the match, I completely agree with this result, it could be a waste when they cannot take advantage of the home team. MU's attack in this match was really too good as I felt like they were truly invisible. The absence of Casemiro really made the lines ineffective from interception to attacking the ball.

Anyway, congratulations to Fullham on this result, they deserved 3 points. I really felt frustrated when the last goal was scored, because it happened quite unexpectedly when MU had just equalized.

Yep, a disappointing match for MU, and the upcoming round with Man City will have a lot to do to hope for a better result.

Mind you, Arsenal has also lost narrowly during the previous fixture they've played in the Premier League Competition. It was due to VAR not doing a good job.
The lose to Porto wasn't expected honestly, but what's happened cannot be changed they have to focus on the fixtures ahead right now. if things goes as planned, then Arsenal would be able to score more than two goals. How they play tonight would definitely reflect on the game against Porto during the Champions League.

Manchester United bottled them chances and of closing the gap with Tottenham Hotspur. Wow mich expectations from them and they failed to respond well, some would blame it on the coach again!

Manchester United 1 : 2 Nigeria Fulham boys
I know you will be surprised at the title of my post but that is just the reality. The Nigerian defender and midfielder in this concluded AFCON in the person of Bassey and Iwobi were the goal scorers for Fulham that enabled them trash Manchester United today. I don't know if I will say that it is the effect of the successful AFCON they played.

In the other hand, Manchester United did not do enough to secure 3 points for them. Even when their former captain Harry Maguire tried to make them go home with 1 point, it was all to no avail.