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Quote from: samuraijin on September 26, 2023, 12:04:57 AM

Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on September 25, 2023, 02:45:51 PM

The issue of management is what's rightly responsible for both Chelsea and Manchester united woes.

Unfortunately there is no effort that can be made from these two big clubs, so it is not surprising that the game and performance in several weeks has not changed for the better, in fact Chelsea is getting worse and is on the verge of relegation, it is a waste of time to buy a player who has a fairly well-known name. but it didn't have any impact on the team, while Manchester United also had expensive players and even brought in expensive players and goalkeepers several times, it didn't make the team better and even made fun of the opposing team, of course it's a shame for these two clubs, I hope there will be changes in next season..

It is a valuable lesson for clubs who have large or even unlimited funds that transfers of players that they carry out without carefulness will lead to losses, and I think Chelsea is heading in that direction because they have not gotten a return that matches what they have spent since changing ownership, the current owner of Chelsea is certainly not happy with what is happening at his club and may be starting to think that he has made another mistake in buying and choosing a coach for his club.
Meanwhile, Manchester United seems to have more problems with their players and it is reported that Jadon Sancho is prohibited from using all the main facilities at Manchester United including the dining room, and another player is not playing until the violence case he is accused of is resolved.
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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on September 25, 2023, 02:45:51 PM

The issue of management is what's rightly responsible for both Chelsea and Manchester united woes.

Unfortunately there is no effort that can be made from these two big clubs, so it is not surprising that the game and performance in several weeks has not changed for the better, in fact Chelsea is getting worse and is on the verge of relegation, it is a waste of time to buy a player who has a fairly well-known name. but it didn't have any impact on the team, while Manchester United also had expensive players and even brought in expensive players and goalkeepers several times, it didn't make the team better and even made fun of the opposing team, of course it's a shame for these two clubs, I hope there will be changes in next season..

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Quote from: CLS63 on September 25, 2023, 06:22:34 PM

Tottenham's rise this season is really difficult to overlook now. Their performance against Arsenal was also impressive. Heung-Min Son is playing at a really different level this season. He is doing his best to fill the space occured after Kane left the team. He is playing in Kane's position in the lineup at the same time but this doesn't create any negative situation for him.

He is a player who can play on the wing and as a centre-forward both. Richarlison needs to work harder to get back the shirt from him. He became hero against Sheffield Utd by scoring 2 goals you know. But he still entered in the 79th minute against Arsenal. He needs to find a way to show to the coach that he is ready for the starting eleven again.

Son and Harry were two amazing actors. We have seen many times over the years that they get along very well. This year, when Harry left the team, Son was left alone. In this case, I was expecting a drop in performance, but he proved us all wrong and plays great. One of the main elements in Tottenham's rise is Son. Let's see how many goals he will score by the end of this year.

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Quote from: CLS63 on September 25, 2023, 06:22:34 PM

Tottenham's rise this season is really difficult to overlook now. Their performance against Arsenal was also impressive. Heung-Min Son is playing at a really different level this season. He is doing his best to fill the space occured after Kane left the team. He is playing in Kane's position in the lineup at the same time but this doesn't create any negative situation for him.

He is a player who can play on the wing and as a centre-forward both. Richarlison needs to work harder to get back the shirt from him. He became hero against Sheffield Utd by scoring 2 goals you know. But he still entered in the 79th minute against Arsenal. He needs to find a way to show to the coach that he is ready for the starting eleven again.

Son is the main man for Totthenham,he is the only player that has made most Totthenham fans not to feel the absence of Kane in the team.Richarlison in the other hand not going to get a starting spot as long as Son remains the man that the coach has chosen to be the top nine.They have good wingers now that are making the difference at the team and the most important element about their game is the fact that they have that winning mentality in the team now,and it is whats making them win games.Son can go on to be one of the highest goal scorers this season because he is doing incredibly well.

I will wait to see whether Totthenham can qualify for champions league this season or not,they are unbeaten in the league now,but We'll see whether they can sustain it or not.

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Tottenham's rise this season is really difficult to overlook now. Their performance against Arsenal was also impressive. Heung-Min Son is playing at a really different level this season. He is doing his best to fill the space occured after Kane left the team. He is playing in Kane's position in the lineup at the same time but this doesn't create any negative situation for him.

He is a player who can play on the wing and as a centre-forward both. Richarlison needs to work harder to get back the shirt from him. He became hero against Sheffield Utd by scoring 2 goals you know. But he still entered in the 79th minute against Arsenal. He needs to find a way to show to the coach that he is ready for the starting eleven again.

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Quote from: Docnaster on September 25, 2023, 12:57:51 PM

Quote from: Distraction on September 25, 2023, 05:23:30 AM

I started thinking that it isn't related to Pochettino. Because it was the same when Chelsea had Potter also. Nothing has changed now when it comes to their performance. Chelsea are continuning to spend a great deal of money but there is still no proper result of it. The amount they have spent in the recent 2 years is really scary - ~1 billion euros. Sad

I think it might be related to the way the whole team is managed right now. Todd Boehly might need to make some changes in his management style maybe.

Because the current way doesn't work at all. I would really like to see another owner here to see if there will be anything changing.

It is fine that people have started to realize that Chelsea's problem is not all about the coaches but has more to do with the management's change of mentality. The Chelsea management needs to understand that rebuilding Chelsea will not only cost money, it will cost time and patient. It will also need consistency and not an overnight miracle.
No club changes management and sales almost all the old and experienced players and will think to bounce back just immediately. There must be process to follow and both Chelsea and their fans must agree to follow the process in order to climb back to the victory lane. Pochettino can be the man to do it for them but they have to be patient and learn to trust the process.

The issue of management is what's rightly responsible for both Chelsea and Manchester united woes.
Last season it was Liverpool as among the big clubs am referring to.
The reality with Chelsea that I have also known is the fact of pressing players to perform who normally should first bond. Individualistic plays don't ever produce the needed result in team settings like football, especially when the team ain't playing around a particular player.

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Quote from: Docnaster on September 25, 2023, 12:57:51 PM

Quote from: Distraction on September 25, 2023, 05:23:30 AM

I started thinking that it isn't related to Pochettino. Because it was the same when Chelsea had Potter also. Nothing has changed now when it comes to their performance. Chelsea are continuning to spend a great deal of money but there is still no proper result of it. The amount they have spent in the recent 2 years is really scary - ~1 billion euros. Sad

I think it might be related to the way the whole team is managed right now. Todd Boehly might need to make some changes in his management style maybe.

Because the current way doesn't work at all. I would really like to see another owner here to see if there will be anything changing.

It is fine that people have started to realize that Chelsea's problem is not all about the coaches but has more to do with the management's change of mentality. The Chelsea management needs to understand that rebuilding Chelsea will not only cost money, it will cost time and patient. It will also need consistency and not an overnight miracle.
No club changes management and sales almost all the old and experienced players and will think to bounce back just immediately. There must be process to follow and both Chelsea and their fans must agree to follow the process in order to climb back to the victory lane. Pochettino can be the man to do it for them but they have to be patient and learn to trust the process.

Last season, there was issues from Graham Potter. He was given too much time and he lost too many games and the fans lost confidence in him. Chelsea has signed good youngsters. They need a manager who can implement and utilise them at them own strengths. Todd currently after making profits from.thr club and not marching to see the club moving to a balanced level. I'm no blue fan but really odd. Abrahimovick wouldn't have done all these.

Pochettino for the job still unclear to me he will have to give the fans evidence. The position Chelsea sits on the Premier League table is not where they ought to be for a big side.

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Quote from: Distraction on September 25, 2023, 05:23:30 AM

I started thinking that it isn't related to Pochettino. Because it was the same when Chelsea had Potter also. Nothing has changed now when it comes to their performance. Chelsea are continuning to spend a great deal of money but there is still no proper result of it. The amount they have spent in the recent 2 years is really scary - ~1 billion euros. Sad

I think it might be related to the way the whole team is managed right now. Todd Boehly might need to make some changes in his management style maybe.

Because the current way doesn't work at all. I would really like to see another owner here to see if there will be anything changing.

It is fine that people have started to realize that Chelsea's problem is not all about the coaches but has more to do with the management's change of mentality. The Chelsea management needs to understand that rebuilding Chelsea will not only cost money, it will cost time and patient. It will also need consistency and not an overnight miracle.
No club changes management and sales almost all the old and experienced players and will think to bounce back just immediately. There must be process to follow and both Chelsea and their fans must agree to follow the process in order to climb back to the victory lane. Pochettino can be the man to do it for them but they have to be patient and learn to trust the process.

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Quote from: yudi09 on September 25, 2023, 08:17:09 AM

Quote from: Razmirraz on September 25, 2023, 06:53:04 AM

Postecoglou is the figure who contributed most to Tottenham's success in maintaining consistent performance even though they lost Harry Kane to Bayern Munich in the last transfer window. In my opinion, the draw was very fair, Arsenal tried to win the match, while Tottenham tried to maintain their position after Son made the score equal again.

The games of both teams have entertained all their fans, especially Tottenham who managed to take home one point at the Emirates stadium. Both teams have also collected the same number of points, they are 4 points adrift of Manchester City who are at the top of the standings.

You're right. The Arsenal - Tottenham match was very entertaining with an interesting game and a careful match. The Emirates public were very happy when their favorite team's first goal came in the 26th minute because Saka's shot deflected into the goal after being hit by Romero's foot. The motivation of the Tottenham players did not seem to decrease, they built an attack to respond with various efforts which resulted in fruitful results after Son's goal occurred due to chaos in front of Arsenal's goal.

The second half of the match became more interesting and entertaining as well as tense with the quick goals scored by the two teams from London.
During the time coached by Ange Postecoglou, Tottenham this season has seen many changes. Their game is already good compared to the previous coach. The former Celtic coach looks set to be successful with Tottenham.

The departure of Harry Kane and the arrival of a manager who is not a high-profile manager has helped Tottenham. Because the expectation has dropped. The players are more relaxed and enjoy playing more. The team has a clear game, a philosophy and now I think it is the most enjoyable and best playing team in the league. James Maddison has changed Tottenham's mood. He's become a key player this year, he's a very quality player, the fact that he got himself out of Leicester City, in my opinion, has helped him. I hope he will be successful and we will be able to watch him in a top team.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on September 25, 2023, 04:45:06 AM

Quote from: sokani on September 24, 2023, 01:31:36 PM

This is the second time I've watched Chelsea game this season and I must say that I'm not pleased with the team performance. After the overhauling of the team and a new coach like Mauricio Pochettino at the helm of affairs, I thought things are going to be different but after watching them play today and the series of poor results, I don't think I'm wrong to say that nothing has really changed. They are just wasteful with their chances. Chelsea is not playing in any european tournament this season, so they should have an edge over other big clubs who are playing more tournament, rotating their squad and trying to keep their players fit for the next game. I'm really disappointed with the result and Pochettino better turn things around quickly.

Yesterday's match was terrible. As a Chelsea fan, I feel that currently Chelsea is still far from winning. I was actually a little happy with Chelsea's game where they were able to control the match a little. This can be seen from ball possession statistics and also passing statistics. But for shots on target, it is clear that Chelsea are still playing very badly. This season they are not playing in any European league. I hope this can give Pochettino the opportunity to find good chemistry in the squad.

Yes of course, because of the poor performance and results experienced by Chelsea at this moment, it is at least clear that it is a very disappointing result for all fans. Because anyway, with bad results like this, then of course it is a must for Pochettino to be able to restore Chelsea performance quickly too. Because yes, if for example Pochettino is unable to restore Chelsea's performance quickly, or at least until the season break later. Then maybe, later Pochettino will be fired too, because it is also often done by Chelsea. If that really happens, then of course Chelsea will be even more difficult to be able to get their best form this season.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on September 25, 2023, 04:45:06 AM

Quote from: sokani on September 24, 2023, 01:31:36 PM

This is the second time I've watched Chelsea game this season and I must say that I'm not pleased with the team performance. After the overhauling of the team and a new coach like Mauricio Pochettino at the helm of affairs, I thought things are going to be different but after watching them play today and the series of poor results, I don't think I'm wrong to say that nothing has really changed. They are just wasteful with their chances. Chelsea is not playing in any european tournament this season, so they should have an edge over other big clubs who are playing more tournament, rotating their squad and trying to keep their players fit for the next game. I'm really disappointed with the result and Pochettino better turn things around quickly.

Yesterday's match was terrible. As a Chelsea fan, I feel that currently Chelsea is still far from winning. I was actually a little happy with Chelsea's game where they were able to control the match a little. This can be seen from ball possession statistics and also passing statistics. But for shots on target, it is clear that Chelsea are still playing very badly. This season they are not playing in any European league. I hope this can give Pochettino the opportunity to find good chemistry in the squad.

No progress has been made by pochettino in chelsea otherwise pochettino keeps make more blunders. He was sending some of its players off from its actual position, which is very bad. I don't have words to describe how painful it is.
I meant let's take a look at some non sense changes like sent off mudryk to be replaced with chilwell to play as left winger while mudryk was the fastest player that can press its opponent. It doesn't even make sense.
Poch may lose his mind. I think that if chelsea fans will be running out from their patience caused by they must be seeing their favorite team become too incompetence this season.
So many flops on chelsea. Some transfers worth almost a half of billion dollar can do nothing. It's a very bad problem for chelsea for sure. I don't know what;'s going to happen with chelsea once the club will face harder fixtures.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on September 25, 2023, 06:53:04 AM

Postecoglou is the figure who contributed most to Tottenham's success in maintaining consistent performance even though they lost Harry Kane to Bayern Munich in the last transfer window. In my opinion, the draw was very fair, Arsenal tried to win the match, while Tottenham tried to maintain their position after Son made the score equal again.

The games of both teams have entertained all their fans, especially Tottenham who managed to take home one point at the Emirates stadium. Both teams have also collected the same number of points, they are 4 points adrift of Manchester City who are at the top of the standings.

You're right. The Arsenal - Tottenham match was very entertaining with an interesting game and a careful match. The Emirates public were very happy when their favorite team's first goal came in the 26th minute because Saka's shot deflected into the goal after being hit by Romero's foot. The motivation of the Tottenham players did not seem to decrease, they built an attack to respond with various efforts which resulted in fruitful results after Son's goal occurred due to chaos in front of Arsenal's goal.

The second half of the match became more interesting and entertaining as well as tense with the quick goals scored by the two teams from London.
During the time coached by Ange Postecoglou, Tottenham this season has seen many changes. Their game is already good compared to the previous coach. The former Celtic coach looks set to be successful with Tottenham.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on September 25, 2023, 06:53:04 AM

Postecoglou is the figure who contributed most to Tottenham's success in maintaining consistent performance even though they lost Harry Kane to Bayern Munich in the last transfer window. In my opinion, the draw was very fair, Arsenal tried to win the match, while Tottenham tried to maintain their position after Son made the score equal again.

The games of both teams have entertained all their fans, especially Tottenham who managed to take home one point at the Emirates stadium. Both teams have also collected the same number of points, they are 4 points adrift of Manchester City who are at the top of the standings.

Daniel levy deserves an applaud for bringing Ange Postecoglou to Tottenham, because changed the mentality of the whole team and what suprises me is how he's able to do it over a short period of time, I'm very impressed with their recent performances indeed they've made their matches very entertaining to watch.

Tottenham last season with Harry Kane was nothing to talk about they didn't really perform well under Conte but I'm suprised to see that the departure of Harry Kane is not affecting the team in any way and they're even performing better than last season with Son who replaced Kane as their recent Captain and preferred to play in the attacking role than Richarlison which he's doing very comfortably and has scored a good number of goals for them this season.

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I'm only looking forward to watch two games this weekend

Arsenal vs Tottenham.
Liverpool vs West ham.

Arsenal game is going to be action packed. Both teams have been in fine form recently so it would be really interesting to see who would triumph between the two.
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Almost everyone who looks at the match program will agree with you. I am especially interested in the result of the match between Arsenal and Tottenham. Arsenal have made many quality signings after narrowly missing out on the league title last season. With the signing of Declan Rice they broke the record for the highest ever transfer fee in the Premier League. I don't have much to say about them... Totteham are doing wonders with Postecoglu... I think Arsenal will win this match, but if there is a surprise result in this match, everything can become more colorful and all football fans can be happy...

Postecoglou is the figure who contributed most to Tottenham's success in maintaining consistent performance even though they lost Harry Kane to Bayern Munich in the last transfer window. In my opinion, the draw was very fair, Arsenal tried to win the match, while Tottenham tried to maintain their position after Son made the score equal again.

The games of both teams have entertained all their fans, especially Tottenham who managed to take home one point at the Emirates stadium. Both teams have also collected the same number of points, they are 4 points adrift of Manchester City who are at the top of the standings.

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Quote from: hahay on September 23, 2023, 10:42:27 AM

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The Liverpool game is going to be very interesting as well.Liverpool have been in a superb form this season winning all their matches and drawing just one,while WestHam have shown real qualities by winning tough opponents.Salah and Nunez has been so good together this season,but their effort will be put to test again today as they face a tough side that has done incredibly well, surprising Everyone with their performance this season.
I know they actually made some signings that added more strength to their team,but that will also be put to test when they face Liverpool today.If I am to predict,I will go for Liverpool to win this one by 2-1.

It's true that West Ham is showing promising performance, Liverpool must make good use of the moment at home. Losing Declan Rice did not have a significant impact on David Moyes squad, the Hammers are still quite stable and have only suffered one defeat so far in the EPL. If you look at the meeting record, the Reds are still very superior, but Jurgen Klop must remain alert if he doesn't want to stumble in front of his own supporters.

I'm in line with you, it looks like Liverpool will win with a score of 2-1. Salah and his friends must try hard to reduce points and stick closely to Man City at the top of the standings, West Ham will be a test of their consistency in the sixth week.

Although West Ham at this moment also looks good, but it looks like West Ham does not have a big chance to be able to beat Liverpool at Anfield. Because anyway, Liverpool will also play at home and moreover, at this moment Liverpool are also concentrating on competing in the upper zone in the standings. Although Liverpool are still under Manchester City, but this will certainly still make Liverpool to consistently win. Indeed, it still won't be easy for Liverpool despite playing at home but at least, Liverpool clearly have better quality so that from the odds factor also that Liverpool are clearly favorites to win.

It cannot be denied that West Ham's game this season looks very good, even though they lost to Liverpool they still never gave up and were consistent in their matches until they scored goals. What is clear is that Liverpool's playing pattern is very different, because Liverpool has many great players in the front and back lines and you can be sure that they are highly favored by everyone in this match. I believe Liverpool will be able to compete for first place with Manchester City this season. I hope that one day Liverpool and Manchester City will meet to compete, this will definitely be a very exciting match and eagerly awaited by many people.

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I started thinking that it isn't related to Pochettino. Because it was the same when Chelsea had Potter also. Nothing has changed now when it comes to their performance. Chelsea are continuning to spend a great deal of money but there is still no proper result of it. The amount they have spent in the recent 2 years is really scary - ~1 billion euros. Sad

I think it might be related to the way the whole team is managed right now. Todd Boehly might need to make some changes in his management style maybe.

Because the current way doesn't work at all. I would really like to see another owner here to see if there will be anything changing.

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Quote from: sokani on September 24, 2023, 01:31:36 PM

This is the second time I've watched Chelsea game this season and I must say that I'm not pleased with the team performance. After the overhauling of the team and a new coach like Mauricio Pochettino at the helm of affairs, I thought things are going to be different but after watching them play today and the series of poor results, I don't think I'm wrong to say that nothing has really changed. They are just wasteful with their chances. Chelsea is not playing in any european tournament this season, so they should have an edge over other big clubs who are playing more tournament, rotating their squad and trying to keep their players fit for the next game. I'm really disappointed with the result and Pochettino better turn things around quickly.

Yesterday's match was terrible. As a Chelsea fan, I feel that currently Chelsea is still far from winning. I was actually a little happy with Chelsea's game where they were able to control the match a little. This can be seen from ball possession statistics and also passing statistics. But for shots on target, it is clear that Chelsea are still playing very badly. This season they are not playing in any European league. I hope this can give Pochettino the opportunity to find good chemistry in the squad.

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Quote from: sokani on September 24, 2023, 01:31:36 PM

This is the second time I've watched Chelsea game this season and I must say that I'm not pleased with the team performance. After the overhauling of the team and a new coach like Mauricio Pochettino at the helm of affairs, I thought things are going to be different but after watching them play today and the series of poor results, I don't think I'm wrong to say that nothing has really changed. They are just wasteful with their chances. Chelsea is not playing in any european tournament this season, so they should have an edge over other big clubs who are playing more tournament, rotating their squad and trying to keep their players fit for the next game. I'm really disappointed with the result and Pochettino better turn things around quickly.

It's hard to accept the truth if last season is quite better compared with the current season. Chelsea had statistically the easiest run compared with another club since the first week but this club lost its mentality. Any players are always wasting many opportunities in scoring against its opponent.
Overhauling the team meant nothing. The quality from the players are still far compared with last season even when potter was still holding the club. Many fans were fuming to the chelsea during the match.
That's why they were booing whole of players and manager. Chelsea never scoring the ball in the back of the net since the match against forest. It's really frustrated for the fans who were spending their time to watch it.
Sterling keeps perform so badly but what's wrong with pochettino? He was always giving him more and more chance to be wasted.
Chelsea got plenties of chances but not even a single goal was coming. It's a shame for 1 billion team. I have no word to describe but it's fuckin disaster for chelsea.

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Quote from: skarais on September 24, 2023, 01:40:36 PM

Both played to a draw, but I would tend to say that Arsenal's gameplay was much better. Arsenal made a fatal mistake in defense which led to a goal, but Tottenham also had the same mistake. It felt appropriate for both teams to end the match with 2-2, that's because they were almost the same statistically and also in the chances created.

So until matchday 6, Manchester City was a team that had completely managed to win 18 points in 6 matches. They are still fine even though De Bruyne and Bernardo cannot play due to injury, but the overall performance of the team is quite good so far.

Tottenham dominated the game in both halves, they're becoming very interesting to watch every week and it's so suprising how Ange Postecoglou just came in this season and transform the team to quickly, they're now very tough and play very good football and i think he read the game better than Arteta and would had won the match, it's nice to see Son being deployed at the role of the top 9 and still performing well, the loss of Harry Kane is no affectimg this team and it's so suprising cause they keep scoring.

I thinķ Ange Postecoglou would make one of the best coaches in the EPL this season because he's gradually transformed Tottenham into one of the strongest Contending side this season and I'm pretty sure there's a possibility of them playing in the Champions league next season, Son is in a very good form this season and would make the top 4 in goal scorer list this season.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on September 24, 2023, 01:24:04 PM

There is a lot to say about the Arsenal - Tottenham game today. Because it was one of the really enjoyable games I have watched lately.

Tottenham were quite weak in defense in the first half and this cost them a goal too. Because of an unfortunate touch by Romero they conceded it. However Son was preparing to save the day. I mean even 2 times. Grin

Only a minute after Saka's penalty goal Son answered. Jorginho was at fault due to dropping the ball. At the end there was a 2-2 draw which was in favour of Tottenham obviously.

Son could have even made a hat-trick. Especially his touch right before the first goal through 3 defenders was really lovely. I should praise Vicario's great goalkeeping effort today too. Grin

Both played to a draw, but I would tend to say that Arsenal's gameplay was much better. Arsenal made a fatal mistake in defense which led to a goal, but Tottenham also had the same mistake. It felt appropriate for both teams to end the match with 2-2, that's because they were almost the same statistically and also in the chances created.

So until matchday 6, Manchester City was a team that had completely managed to win 18 points in 6 matches. They are still fine even though De Bruyne and Bernardo cannot play due to injury, but the overall performance of the team is quite good so far.

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