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Incidentally, after Harry Kane left, Tottenham's game began to change to what it is now. For me it's not because of that, but because of the arrival of a new coach. Tottenham's game now is similar to the game when Mauricio Pochettino was still coaching. After Pochettino left for PSG, Tottenham's game was unstable, including in the hands of Mourinho and Conte.
The effects of Ange Postecoglou as a coach and James Maddison I think are very different. Tottenham's playing philosophy is starting to be interesting to watch.
It is true that there are differences in Spurs game, including their playing philosophy, it is difficult to express but it can be seen from the way they play. Now Son can even be said to be Harry Kane's replacement striker. Son has more freedom to act as an executor and his role at Spurs is as a mastermind of attack strategy. True or not, Ange Postecoglou presence at Spurs proves that even without Harry Kane, the squad can still perform extraordinary. Urging Spurs fans to move on from Kane and Ange Postecoglou brings something new.

Well, there's a reason things happen this way, the Spuirs, it was a big mistake to have let Harry Kane go, it was something catastrophic, because first things were very serious for the team, it is said that Andie is indispoensabel in a company or in a team, so perhaps it is true according to the panorama, but now they have left a great void, or rather Kane has left a great void, and that is something that we see, we notice, and we can say that things when they are about star players, if they must handle themselves with that misgiving they had before releasing him to BAYERN, NOW Bayern have put a lot of value on themselves, and they have a very strong team, plus he is very loved by the Germans and has adapted very well to his team. new team, he is a very complete player and he has done things well, everyone has loved him and I think he is Changing the face of Bayern in an impressive way, in fact for me they are champions of the Bundesliga again unless something extraordinary happened, that's why I still think it was a big Mistake on the part of the Spurs , at a time when they were negotiating for Harry Kane , so that was something that left many of us with Expectations.

When we now think about how the Tottenham team turned out, obviously many of us know very well that things after Kane left the Spurs left them with their pants Down , very bad, I would think that things are very different because When things are revealed, it can be determined that one as a person knows that it is very difficult to find a replacement for him, then that order of ideas is known that when a player of this type leaves, his team looks very bad , now The Spurs game is strange, it is not understood, I have only seen a part of their games, but it is strange, it is as if they played without any order, something like whatever comes out, once these types of things baffle me, It is no longer the same system , it is something that is not understood, I don't know if they do it on purpose to unsettle the Rival.

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I think Wolves vs Man City is a very difficult match between two teams in today's Premier League match. Man City fans may not have understood that Man City will perform so badly in today's match. But I am too much for Man City to lose as such a good team.  I am happy. I bet for Wolves team in today's match and I got a good amount of money from here today. Wolves performed so well and won today's match by 2 goals. I really did not think.
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After the red devils thrashing of crystal palace in the carling cup tie during the midweek, I wouldn't expect anything less than a win from Manchester United. They were brilliant all through the game. Onana was just seating on goal and had nothing to do until the last minutes of the game when he was tested a couple of times. United's defence was solid, the midfield was fantastic, the attack looks threatening and I would expect them to replicate the same performance today, maybe not the exact scoreline but a win will do.
Is it just because winning against Crystal Palace makes Man United as a whole return to their best performance? Of course not, they still have a lot of things to improve and Erik Ten Hag will not be easily satisfied with this victory. Today Man United is back against Crystal Palace and if they are able to prove that Erik Ten Hag's squad has recovered, they will not experience any problems in this match. On the other hand, if Crystal Palace is able to turn things around, it means winning the Carabao Cup is just luck.
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After the red devils thrashing of crystal palace in the carling cup tie during the midweek, I wouldn't expect anything less than a win from Manchester United. They were brilliant all through the game. Onana was just seating on goal and had nothing to do until the last minutes of the game when he was tested a couple of times. United's defence was solid, the midfield was fantastic, the attack looks threatening and I would expect them to replicate the same performance today, maybe not the exact scoreline but a win will do.
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Another lovely match is closing in on us.  Smiley  Tottenham are going to be hosting Liverpool in Tottenham Hotspur Stadium this Saturday.

Hopefully we will watch another competitive match with many goals just as the match Tottenham played against Arsenal. This time Tottenham would like to go for a win of course. Because they are already doing an amazing work this season. In addition to that they must have realized how capable they were after the Arsenal match. The coach Ange Postecoglou would maintain the same understanding of play here as well.

While Liverpool and especially Salah are in great shape Tottenham had better be careful. I don't feel like Liverpool will lose here. I even think that Liverpool can make Tottenham experience their first loss this season.  Grin

This is an interesting match! Liverpool and Tottenham both scored 15 goals on matchday 7 out of 38. Tottenham conceded more goals, namely 7 goals and Liverpool 5 goals. That's not a very far off amount. In this match I will bet on Liverpool. I agree with you that the Reds will give the Spurs their first defeat. I hope it will be a beautiful match like Tottenham vs Arsenal. So excited for this match!


Bookies were favoring liverpool to win the game even though totenham's odds is not that bad. It's hard to predict which club that would be winning the game. I meant liverpool was winning against westham and totenham played as good as liverpool even against arsenal in the previous match. It's very hard to predict the result from this match but as bettors and i would prefer to take some possibilities that may happen in this match.

I do believe if both of clubs will be scoring during the game. This is a sense choice to be taken for anyone who is willing to get safe bet. Liverpool will be playing away and it gives both of clubs their own disadvantages but i knew if nunez is on fire right now.
The chance for liverpool to scoring is very high against totenham. None of those clubs would be dominating the match.

We will see that almost the same match like totenham vs arsenal in the previous week. Over 2.5 goals will be easily reached by this game. I consider liverpool was always producing a lot of goals as well as totenham.
Even over 3.5 is also possible to happen.
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Another lovely match is closing in on us.  Smiley  Tottenham are going to be hosting Liverpool in Tottenham Hotspur Stadium this Saturday.

Hopefully we will watch another competitive match with many goals just as the match Tottenham played against Arsenal. This time Tottenham would like to go for a win of course. Because they are already doing an amazing work this season. In addition to that they must have realized how capable they were after the Arsenal match. The coach Ange Postecoglou would maintain the same understanding of play here as well.

While Liverpool and especially Salah are in great shape Tottenham had better be careful. I don't feel like Liverpool will lose here. I even think that Liverpool can make Tottenham experience their first loss this season.  Grin

This is an interesting match! Liverpool and Tottenham both scored 15 goals on matchday 7 out of 38. Tottenham conceded more goals, namely 7 goals and Liverpool 5 goals. That's not a very far off amount. In this match I will bet on Liverpool. I agree with you that the Reds will give the Spurs their first defeat. I hope it will be a beautiful match like Tottenham vs Arsenal. So excited for this match!
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Another lovely match is closing in on us.  Smiley  Tottenham are going to be hosting Liverpool in Tottenham Hotspur Stadium this Saturday.

Hopefully we will watch another competitive match with many goals just as the match Tottenham played against Arsenal. This time Tottenham would like to go for a win of course. Because they are already doing an amazing work this season. In addition to that they must have realized how capable they were after the Arsenal match. The coach Ange Postecoglou would maintain the same understanding of play here as well.

While Liverpool and especially Salah are in great shape Tottenham had better be careful. I don't feel like Liverpool will lose here. I even think that Liverpool can make Tottenham experience their first loss this season.  Grin
Liverpool are currently losing to Leicester city at Anfield and I'm suprised that they carelessly allowed leicester to score the opener very early in the 3rd minute of the game even though they had rested alot of 1st team players against the match on Saturday I expect Liverpool to have a comeback and win the game,they here's still lots of time before the end of the 1st half, this match would definitely end up in favour of Liverpool.

 Against Tottenham on Saturday I think they'll face a tough time at Anfield due to the performance of Liverpool and alot of players that's been rested today would be fit to play the game, this is another test for Ange Postecoglou he's already proven himself against Arsenal I can't to see their performance against another big team in the EPL .

 Tottenham have been very brilliant since the performance of their new coach therefore I won't be suprised if they win again or draw like their previous match which was against Arsenal, Ange Postecoglou would take them far this season, his strategy is really work for the team and they adapted so rapidly to it.
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Another lovely match is closing in on us.  Smiley  Tottenham are going to be hosting Liverpool in Tottenham Hotspur Stadium this Saturday.

Hopefully we will watch another competitive match with many goals just as the match Tottenham played against Arsenal. This time Tottenham would like to go for a win of course. Because they are already doing an amazing work this season. In addition to that they must have realized how capable they were after the Arsenal match. The coach Ange Postecoglou would maintain the same understanding of play here as well.

While Liverpool and especially Salah are in great shape Tottenham had better be careful. I don't feel like Liverpool will lose here. I even think that Liverpool can make Tottenham experience their first loss this season.  Grin
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It would be interesting if Chelsea ended up being relegated because of course, that would be a big lesson for their management. But yes, it looks like if Chelsea keeps Pochettino until the end of the season, then it seems quite possible for Chelsea to be relegated. Moreover, if for example Pochettino is fired in the middle of this season and Chelsea appoints the wrong coach again, then the final path will indeed be relegation. Because basically, the players that Chelsea currently has can be assumed to be new players and do not have strong chemistry between the players. Therefore, it is natural that Chelsea is still having difficulty forming a better team at this moment.
There's not Interesting about Chelsea being relegated after spending millions just to develop the club to a better standard that would be a very bad record for the club and for the owner of the team, I don't expect them to sack the coach yet cause they might be in a hurry to appoint another wrong manager, Pochettino is not a bad coach and he deserves to be given more time to build his team, but i think he needs to act fast and come up with a better strategy for them to start winning games.
 
 The things about the team is that they're playing good football  but finding it difficult to score goals, I feel they should had allowed Lukaku stay to support Jackson who' was a second striker for his previous team and inexperienced as well, they'll be playing against Brighton today and I doubt if they'll win cause Brighton are in a better form than Chelsea this season.
Chelsea are really in a mess at the moment,and if care is not taken, Pochetino will definitely loose his job,which will be very pathetic because everyone loves the coach,it is very sad that things are not happening the way he planned.I am very confident that he wanted to build a strong young team that can combat with any team in the league,but it is just so sad that he isnt getting the right formula and strategy to win games.About five games have been played already in the premier league,and they are sitting 14 on the league table which is very bad for a big club like Chelsea,and the kind of investment they made in the last transfer window.They just still have to be patient with him,maybe till December.
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Chelsea are really very bad from all sides. It's a shame when they have actually spent a lot of money to bring in players. If it's United we can see the shortcomings in their defense, but Chelsea as a whole is very, very bad. But I don't think Chelsea will be relegated. They have many players at English Premier League level, not championship level. I just hope Chelsea can stay in the league this season and hope the players can find chemistry in the game.
Yep it seems high unlikely Chelsea will be relegated to Championship league, but honestly I hope it will happen lol. I want to see Chelsea get relegated because this will make every people e.g. owner, management, coach, player and everyone who work for Chelsea need to introspection whether they're good or not.
Statistically, chelsea is unlikely to be relegated this season even though they have really bad performance this season but if we are seeing based on the various factors that may affect the result of table at the end of season chelsea has chance to be relegated.
Everything is still remain uncertain at this moment. We don't even know what's going on with newly promoted club in middle and end of season. They can also comeback and beating chelsea as well.
This will be a huge turn around for those promoted clubs to push chelsea deep to be relegated this season.

After making a big change, I believe they will back to Premier League and might be one of strong candidate to become a champion.
The question how long? There is still a chance for chelsea to be relegated. Chelsea's coach never accept any criticism that was coming toward him. There must be some changes to be made by the club.
Some players like sterline are always wasting the chances. Chelsea lack of player with good one touch. It makes the club feel so hard in scoring goal against other club.

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It would be interesting if Chelsea ended up being relegated because of course, that would be a big lesson for their management. But yes, it looks like if Chelsea keeps Pochettino until the end of the season, then it seems quite possible for Chelsea to be relegated. Moreover, if for example Pochettino is fired in the middle of this season and Chelsea appoints the wrong coach again, then the final path will indeed be relegation. Because basically, the players that Chelsea currently has can be assumed to be new players and do not have strong chemistry between the players. Therefore, it is natural that Chelsea is still having difficulty forming a better team at this moment.
There's not Interesting about Chelsea being relegated after spending millions just to develop the club to a better standard that would be a very bad record for the club and for the owner of the team, I don't expect them to sack the coach yet cause they might be in a hurry to appoint another wrong manager, Pochettino is not a bad coach and he deserves to be given more time to build his team, but i think he needs to act fast and come up with a better strategy for them to start winning games.
 
 The things about the team is that they're playing good football  but finding it difficult to score goals, I feel they should had allowed Lukaku stay to support Jackson who' was a second striker for his previous team and inexperienced as well, they'll be playing against Brighton today and I doubt if they'll win cause Brighton are in a better form than Chelsea this season.
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Chelsea are really very bad from all sides. It's a shame when they have actually spent a lot of money to bring in players. If it's United we can see the shortcomings in their defense, but Chelsea as a whole is very, very bad. But I don't think Chelsea will be relegated. They have many players at English Premier League level, not championship level. I just hope Chelsea can stay in the league this season and hope the players can find chemistry in the game.
Yep it seems high unlikely Chelsea will be relegated to Championship league, but honestly I hope it will happen lol. I want to see Chelsea get relegated because this will make every people e.g. owner, management, coach, player and everyone who work for Chelsea need to introspection whether they're good or not.

After making a big change, I believe they will back to Premier League and might be one of strong candidate to become a champion.

It would be interesting if Chelsea ended up being relegated because of course, that would be a big lesson for their management. But yes, it looks like if Chelsea keeps Pochettino until the end of the season, then it seems quite possible for Chelsea to be relegated. Moreover, if for example Pochettino is fired in the middle of this season and Chelsea appoints the wrong coach again, then the final path will indeed be relegation. Because basically, the players that Chelsea currently has can be assumed to be new players and do not have strong chemistry between the players. Therefore, it is natural that Chelsea is still having difficulty forming a better team at this moment.
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You are right,but to me,the number one person who has been instrumental to the change at Totthenham is Maddison,who came as their messiah,and to take the void left by Kane,who joined Bayern Munich to seek Champions league football.He still respected Totthenham by not joining any of the EPL rival club.Maddison whose presence at the club has really erased Kane's memory from the heart of their fans  has combined so well with Son and Johnson who is also a new signing from Forest to make Totthenham fans happy once again,because last season,was really terrible for them.
James Maddison's figure in the team as you say is like a virus that quickly spread into Tottenham's game at least until last week's London derby match. His role in the squad since joining from Leicester City has been very important in setting the tempo of the game. For me, Maddison also often made mistakes by wasting good opportunities during the 6 times he was played by Postecoglou. During the match against Arsenal, several of his shots often strayed far from the opponent's goal which could have been a goal but were not really noticed because overall, he performed very well. He was able to make good statistics in 6 games with 2 goals and 4 assists so his rating reached 8.26.

However,we hope that this season will be one of their best seasons for years,and I pray they continue impressing and proving people wrong about them.
Because there is still a long way to go this season and if their performance does not decline, the competition in the English league will be even tighter and will not be dominated by one team.



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It is true that there are differences in Spurs game, including their playing philosophy, it is difficult to express but it can be seen from the way they play. Now Son can even be said to be Harry Kane's replacement striker. Son has more freedom to act as an executor and his role at Spurs is as a mastermind of attack strategy. True or not, Ange Postecoglou presence at Spurs proves that even without Harry Kane, the squad can still perform extraordinary. Urging Spurs fans to move on from Kane and Ange Postecoglou brings something new.
Son, Maddison, Ange Postecoglou without the support of everyone involved also cannot make Tottenham like the 6 matches that have been played.
These three figures have played a big role in Tottenham's performance this season with a good start.
Kane remains a legend for Spurs fans because Kane's role while at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium was quite large with his extraordinary loyalty.
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Chelsea are really very bad from all sides. It's a shame when they have actually spent a lot of money to bring in players. If it's United we can see the shortcomings in their defense, but Chelsea as a whole is very, very bad. But I don't think Chelsea will be relegated. They have many players at English Premier League level, not championship level. I just hope Chelsea can stay in the league this season and hope the players can find chemistry in the game.
Yep it seems high unlikely Chelsea will be relegated to Championship league, but honestly I hope it will happen lol. I want to see Chelsea get relegated because this will make every people e.g. owner, management, coach, player and everyone who work for Chelsea need to introspection whether they're good or not.

After making a big change, I believe they will back to Premier League and might be one of strong candidate to become a champion.
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It's too inconsistent, it has no plan and tactic. Everything about chelsea is about the club that may be relegated.



Chelsea are really very bad from all sides. It's a shame when they have actually spent a lot of money to bring in players. If it's United we can see the shortcomings in their defense, but Chelsea as a whole is very, very bad. But I don't think Chelsea will be relegated. They have many players at English Premier League level, not championship level. I just hope Chelsea can stay in the league this season and hope the players can find chemistry in the game.
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Incidentally, after Harry Kane left, Tottenham's game began to change to what it is now. For me it's not because of that, but because of the arrival of a new coach. Tottenham's game now is similar to the game when Mauricio Pochettino was still coaching. After Pochettino left for PSG, Tottenham's game was unstable, including in the hands of Mourinho and Conte.
The effects of Ange Postecoglou as a coach and James Maddison I think are very different. Tottenham's playing philosophy is starting to be interesting to watch.
It is true that there are differences in Spurs game, including their playing philosophy, it is difficult to express but it can be seen from the way they play. Now Son can even be said to be Harry Kane's replacement striker. Son has more freedom to act as an executor and his role at Spurs is as a mastermind of attack strategy. True or not, Ange Postecoglou presence at Spurs proves that even without Harry Kane, the squad can still perform extraordinary. Urging Spurs fans to move on from Kane and Ange Postecoglou brings something new.

@bitleap I have watched Tottenham play this season and they have massively improved their game and to be honest I had no idea about their coach but now I feel that he’s in the league of Pep and Klopp. Furthermore Son has made it his personal mission to carry Tottenham to the finish line this season and while I knew he was good from his past display’s but now he’s unlocked a new version of himself and lastly I believe that he’ll only continue to improve as this season progresses ahead.
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Incidentally, after Harry Kane left, Tottenham's game began to change to what it is now. For me it's not because of that, but because of the arrival of a new coach. Tottenham's game now is similar to the game when Mauricio Pochettino was still coaching. After Pochettino left for PSG, Tottenham's game was unstable, including in the hands of Mourinho and Conte.
The effects of Ange Postecoglou as a coach and James Maddison I think are very different. Tottenham's playing philosophy is starting to be interesting to watch.
It is true that there are differences in Spurs game, including their playing philosophy, it is difficult to express but it can be seen from the way they play. Now Son can even be said to be Harry Kane's replacement striker. Son has more freedom to act as an executor and his role at Spurs is as a mastermind of attack strategy. True or not, Ange Postecoglou presence at Spurs proves that even without Harry Kane, the squad can still perform extraordinary. Urging Spurs fans to move on from Kane and Ange Postecoglou brings something new.
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The departure of Harry Kane and the arrival of a manager who is not a high-profile manager has helped Tottenham. Because the expectation has dropped. The players are more relaxed and enjoy playing more. The team has a clear game, a philosophy and now I think it is the most enjoyable and best playing team in the league. James Maddison has changed Tottenham's mood. He's become a key player this year, he's a very quality player, the fact that he got himself out of Leicester City, in my opinion, has helped him. I hope he will be successful and we will be able to watch him in a top team.
Incidentally, after Harry Kane left, Tottenham's game began to change to what it is now. For me it's not because of that, but because of the arrival of a new coach. Tottenham's game now is similar to the game when Mauricio Pochettino was still coaching. After Pochettino left for PSG, Tottenham's game was unstable, including in the hands of Mourinho and Conte.
The effects of Ange Postecoglou as a coach and James Maddison I think are very different. Tottenham's playing philosophy is starting to be interesting to watch.
You are right,but to me,the number one person who has been instrumental to the change at Totthenham is Maddison,who came as their messiah,and to take the void left by Kane,who joined Bayern Munich to seek Champions league football.He still respected Totthenham by not joining any of the EPL rival club.Maddison whose presence at the club has really erased Kane's memory from the heart of their fans  has combined so well with Son and Johnson who is also a new signing from Forest to make Totthenham fans happy once again,because last season,was really terrible for them.
However,we hope that this season will be one of their best seasons for years,and I pray they continue impressing and proving people wrong about them.
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The departure of Harry Kane and the arrival of a manager who is not a high-profile manager has helped Tottenham. Because the expectation has dropped. The players are more relaxed and enjoy playing more. The team has a clear game, a philosophy and now I think it is the most enjoyable and best playing team in the league. James Maddison has changed Tottenham's mood. He's become a key player this year, he's a very quality player, the fact that he got himself out of Leicester City, in my opinion, has helped him. I hope he will be successful and we will be able to watch him in a top team.
Incidentally, after Harry Kane left, Tottenham's game began to change to what it is now. For me it's not because of that, but because of the arrival of a new coach. Tottenham's game now is similar to the game when Mauricio Pochettino was still coaching. After Pochettino left for PSG, Tottenham's game was unstable, including in the hands of Mourinho and Conte.
The effects of Ange Postecoglou as a coach and James Maddison I think are very different. Tottenham's playing philosophy is starting to be interesting to watch.
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The issue of management is what's rightly responsible for both Chelsea and Manchester united woes.

Unfortunately there is no effort that can be made from these two big clubs, so it is not surprising that the game and performance in several weeks has not changed for the better, in fact Chelsea is getting worse and is on the verge of relegation, it is a waste of time to buy a player who has a fairly well-known name. but it didn't have any impact on the team, while Manchester United also had expensive players and even brought in expensive players and goalkeepers several times, it didn't make the team better and even made fun of the opposing team, of course it's a shame for these two clubs, I hope there will be changes in next season..

Yes, bad management has had a very negative impact on the performance of Chelsea and Manchester United. But yes, if we consider finances, then of course Chelsea and Manchester United have good finances. Therefore, even though they have good finances but at the same time they do not have proper management, then of course the money they spend in the transfer window also does not have a good impact on their performance. Although in reality, at least when a team has good finances at least their performance will also be good but unfortunately, this factor is not working well for Chelsea and Manchester United at this moment.
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