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September 04, 2023, 10:47:28 AM
[....]I also don't know for sure whether the VAR decision for the goal scored by Garnacho was correct or not because after that incident it was Arsenal who managed to turn things around.
What are you trying to say here? Arsenal's last two goals has nothing to do with the disallowed MU goal. If you have a problem with the call then point it out on a technical level and not come of as someone saying MU was robbed of that goal so Arsenal could win. Garnacho was offside by the slightest of margins.
I'm just curious because quite a lot of people are discussing the VAR result and if it was offside then it was the right decision to annul the goal. I do not side with any team and all decisions remain in the hands of the referee. It seems like you are too hasty to define other people's opinions and when everything is clear there should be no need for too serious a debate.
Your reasoning behind your doubt on the accuracy of VAR didn't make any sense so I had to ask. It seems you just went along with other people's emotional response and wild speculation as to why it was disallowed. Hyphen(-) perfectly said it that they saw it through an emotional lens.

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It seems that Garnacho goal was disputed again by Ten Hag in front of the media. But it sounded like he wasn't admitting defeat.
He badly wanted to win so that response is quite expected of him. He probably has a different opinion now when asked off camera.
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September 04, 2023, 10:41:47 AM
Liverpool continued to get positive results after the first match against Chelsea they only won a draw, but the rest of the match they could win consecutive wins. This is a breath of fresh air for them after last season appearing inconsistent and having to try hard to be able to slowly increase their ranking in the standings. But this season the change looks real and the results they can also feel with 10 points they managed to collect from the initial 4 matches. Finally we see something different from them, where something that was missing from them last season is now slowly returning.
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September 04, 2023, 10:39:35 AM
Nope, this season is better than previous.

In the previous season, both of midfielder and striker are really useless. But now, Chelsea striker are quite good because they have Sterling, Nkunku, and Jackson, the problem is Nkunku currently injured, so Chelsea perform not maximal in their attack.

However another problem in Chelsea is the goalkeeper, signing Robert Sanchez and loan Kepa to Real Madrid is ridiculous decision.
Yes.... although I have to say it's hardly any change.  Grin

Chelsea is still plagued by many injuries so it may be difficult for Pochettino to simulate his game, the game is still quite unstable and not to say completely consistent, but everything must change if their squad is back to normal without any injured players.

Robert Sanchez is not worse, but it is the weak defense that makes many goals to Chelsea.  Cheesy
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September 04, 2023, 09:55:09 AM
Anything can happen during a match and sometimes some of the referee's decisions will not be in your favor. The fans complained, the coaches complained, and so did the gamblers who felt they deserved to win their bets. Things like that happen often and are quite disappointing, that's what Ten Hag said after the match even though he felt his team had done their best.
Yes, this will clearly not be beneficial for Manchester United who feel at a disadvantage with VAR because they will claim it was not offside but the referee and VAR assistant have given a decision with analysis that it is offside, especially if the goal occurs it will be Manchester United's win, but the facts different. Tongue

This often happens in football matches, not only is this the only controversial incident, but several others have also experienced the same thing, just accept the referee's decision and that is the final decision.

Obviously Manchester United bettors will be disappointed.  Grin
It suprises how people risk betting in such kind of match, because it's one that involves two big teams and is expected to be very tough, in matches like this I know right that there would be too many goals because if you check their previous meetings they always have 3 to goals in the matches so to be on a safer side I  expect people to bet over 1.5 goals, which has always worked I'm their past 3 meetings even in the preseason.
 In my opinion, to be honest I think the Var robbed Manchester united of the game and that call wrong because it was clearly not an offside and if the goal was given the game would had been in favour of united cause the would had blocked their defence line instead of coming out to score an equalizer anyways the decision is being made an there's nothing anyone can do about it, Manchester United are left with no choice but to accept defeat and work on performing better on their next match which I feel would be very tough cause they're facing Brighton.
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September 04, 2023, 09:52:46 AM
The most surprising aspect is that when Chelsea has a chance to score, the players will play the ball out and some can't play it in a normal way. It would be better if Chelsea didn't even sign any players this season because I can see that the players they used last season are even better than this season's own; all of the players are young players and I still don't even understand their performance; I don't think Chelsea will make a good position this season.
Nope, this season is better than previous.

In the previous season, both of midfielder and striker are really useless. But now, Chelsea striker are quite good because they have Sterling, Nkunku, and Jackson, the problem is Nkunku currently injured, so Chelsea perform not maximal in their attack.

However another problem in Chelsea is the goalkeeper, signing Robert Sanchez and loan Kepa to Real Madrid is ridiculous decision.
Agree with you, Chelsea management decision to loan Kepa to Real Madrid was ridiculous. I think the Blues also lack a playmaker in midfield, who can set the tempo of the game like Frank Lampard in the past. My prediction is that if Chelsea cannot recover in the next three matches in the EPL, we can be sure that Pochettino squad will finish outside the UCL zone.

There are lots of sharp comments criticizing Pochettino tactical qualities, but I think it's normal because he's spending a lot of budget and hasn't been able to bring Chelsea to a winning path.
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September 04, 2023, 09:44:36 AM
[....]I also don't know for sure whether the VAR decision for the goal scored by Garnacho was correct or not because after that incident it was Arsenal who managed to turn things around.
What are you trying to say here? Arsenal's last two goals has nothing to do with the disallowed MU goal. If you have a problem with the call then point it out on a technical level and not come of as someone saying MU was robbed of that goal so Arsenal could win. Garnacho was offside by the slightest of margins.
It seems that Garnacho goal was disputed again by Ten Hag in front of the media. But it sounded like he wasn't admitting defeat. Whether it's Offside or not, the referee's decision is final and Arsenal has won the match. Regarding VAR, we already know that in every match there will always be something that doesn't fit, maybe the Man United fans don't accept this crushing defeat. Very disappointing of course, but to be honest, I think Arsenal mentality is better and they can turn things around quickly, They used the last minutes in an extraordinary way.
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September 04, 2023, 09:37:56 AM
Anything can happen during a match and sometimes some of the referee's decisions will not be in your favor. The fans complained, the coaches complained, and so did the gamblers who felt they deserved to win their bets. Things like that happen often and are quite disappointing, that's what Ten Hag said after the match even though he felt his team had done their best.
Yes, this will clearly not be beneficial for Manchester United who feel at a disadvantage with VAR because they will claim it was not offside but the referee and VAR assistant have given a decision with analysis that it is offside, especially if the goal occurs it will be Manchester United's win, but the facts different. Tongue

This often happens in football matches, not only is this the only controversial incident, but several others have also experienced the same thing, just accept the referee's decision and that is the final decision.

Obviously Manchester United bettors will be disappointed.  Grin
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September 04, 2023, 09:34:35 AM
Manchester united is weak at their defense and that's why they conceded a goal just one minute after scoring Arsenal. Their defense also lack concentration because knowing the game was about to end, they would had defended properly and taken home one point.

The game was already tensed at that final minutes, the defenders could just try their best but there won’t be a certainty that they can defend the one goal till the end of the match. The same way Manchester United defenders will be feeling is the same way as Arsenal’s but the pressure was just more on Manchester United and they couldn’t withstand it which led to the goal by Declan Rice and Gabriel Jesus.

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The officiating staffs of the game contributed in Manchester united losing because they officiated very poorly but that wasn't an excuse because from how Arsenal played, they would had still found a way to win the game and as for the last goal, G. Jesus is world class.

The officiating was okay and has nothing to do with them losing. They both played well but Arsenal was lucky to have won the game in the final minutes. I feel if the Arsenal second goal had came earlier before the extra time, Manchester United might have equalised and levelled the game again. They both did well but Arsenal did better and won the game in the end, so hard luck to Manchester United this time around.
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September 04, 2023, 09:34:25 AM
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The game really showed why we shouldn't stop watching early. I mean, an extra 11 minutes? That's nut.! And that time was, to me, the heart of how unpredictable the Premier League is. I couldn't believe that Rice's shot went back in and that Onana missed the block. Really, how fast! Man U. was trying to get a draw, and Arsenal scored a goal late in the game thanks to Gabriel Jess. It seems like both teams changed how they played because of that long extra time. How could that be? It's frustrating to think about what could have happened if you had watched until the end

This is a new regulation that is implemented by the FA, strict sanctions are also prepared by the FA for individuals or teams who commit violations. The FA has also adopted the additional time or injury time system that was previously used at the 2022 world cup in Qatar. and we, have seen it in a few of these competitions.

In essence, the Gunners succeeded in overthrowing the Red Devil at their own headquarters, Emirates Stadium. As previously predicted, this match will present an exciting match between the two teams. Rice, scored his first goal with Arsenal and proved he was a worthy player. while the final goal was scored by Gabriel Jesus. as a result, Arsenal won full points for this match and placed 5th in the standings. even though in reality, there is only a difference of two points from Manchester City who are at the top of the standings.

On the other hand, United actually had several opportunities but unfortunately they were unable to increase their number of goals. Of the three counter-attacks that United had, only one was utilized very well. In this match, Manchester United were just unlucky, in the final seconds of the match, they were unable to maintain their position after the match had progressed in normal time. in the end, Arsenal managed to win this match.

Not gonna lie I also turned the match off when I saw it. It was almost 90 minutes and Manchester United as well as Arsenal was not scoring. I thought the match was definitely going to finish as a draw. I actually have heard people turning the match off even at 90 minutes. I believe they did not know that this was going to happen.

Manchester United definitely had a lot of chances, but they did not do very well when they were approaching the final third of the pitch. Almost all of us had doubts about Manchester United attacking lineup. And of course that proved to be true, because this match could have easily gone the other way.

Congratulations to Arsenal for winning the match and not giving up even at the end of the match. This is a great mindset from Arsenal.
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September 04, 2023, 09:29:08 AM
The most surprising aspect is that when Chelsea has a chance to score, the players will play the ball out and some can't play it in a normal way. It would be better if Chelsea didn't even sign any players this season because I can see that the players they used last season are even better than this season's own; all of the players are young players and I still don't even understand their performance; I don't think Chelsea will make a good position this season.
Nope, this season is better than previous.

In the previous season, both of midfielder and striker are really useless. But now, Chelsea striker are quite good because they have Sterling, Nkunku, and Jackson, the problem is Nkunku currently injured, so Chelsea perform not maximal in their attack.

However another problem in Chelsea is the goalkeeper, signing Robert Sanchez and loan Kepa to Real Madrid is ridiculous decision.

I personally don't care about the Chelsea squad because after all, because Chelsea has also spent a lot of money in the transfer window to bring in players. Then at least, it is a must for Chelsea to be able to have good results, performance and position also in the Premier League standings now. But anyway, the reality is that the results Chelsea have at this moment are still far from good results as expected. Therefore, whoever the players are in the Chelsea squad at this moment, of course they get big pressure because they are required to be able to successfully get points in each match.
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September 04, 2023, 09:20:37 AM
An exciting match for both of them, especially as Arsenal continued to press so they got a gap in the last minute and forced Manchester United to concede two goals in just a few minutes. Arsenal played well at home as hosts, of course they had to give their best for everyone. their fans and make sure to reap three points from this match to get on the winning track again to get a better position at the top of the standings.

Declan rice is a good defensive midfielder and Arsenal made the right decision to sign him. He will go on to create memories with Arsenal just as he has started with a great win against Manchester united. Declan rice played very well against Manchester united and got a goal.

Manchester united is weak at their defense and that's why they conceded a goal just one minute after scoring Arsenal. Their defense also lack concentration because knowing the game was about to end, they would had defended properly and taken home one point.

The officiating staffs of the game contributed in Manchester united losing because they officiated very poorly but that wasn't an excuse because from how Arsenal played, they would had still found a way to win the game and as for the last goal, G. Jesus is world class.

He has already created history by scoring his first ever Premier League goal against Man United. Declan was active enough to help overpower Bruno and Erikson during the first half performance.
Before the defense, the coach should be the blame for the overall selection he should take all the blame and Man United need to improve.
Dragging points with Chelsea is what they are doing. A new plans for a solid defender and the exit of Maguire should be planned.
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September 04, 2023, 09:18:24 AM
The most surprising aspect is that when Chelsea has a chance to score, the players will play the ball out and some can't play it in a normal way. It would be better if Chelsea didn't even sign any players this season because I can see that the players they used last season are even better than this season's own; all of the players are young players and I still don't even understand their performance; I don't think Chelsea will make a good position this season.
Nope, this season is better than previous.

In the previous season, both of midfielder and striker are really useless. But now, Chelsea striker are quite good because they have Sterling, Nkunku, and Jackson, the problem is Nkunku currently injured, so Chelsea perform not maximal in their attack.

However another problem in Chelsea is the goalkeeper, signing Robert Sanchez and loan Kepa to Real Madrid is ridiculous decision.
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September 04, 2023, 09:09:06 AM
I'm just curious because quite a lot of people are discussing the VAR result and if it was offside then it was the right decision to annul the goal. I do not side with any team and all decisions remain in the hands of the referee. It seems like you are too hasty to define other people's opinions and when everything is clear there should be no need for too serious a debate. Well, whatever it is, Arsenal has done their job well and for Manchester United they have to try even harder so they can win the next match. Smiley

Anything can happen during a match and sometimes some of the referee's decisions will not be in your favor. The fans complained, the coaches complained, and so did the gamblers who felt they deserved to win their bets. Things like that happen often and are quite disappointing, that's what Ten Hag said after the match even though he felt his team had done their best.

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“You saw the game but it’s no offside [for the Garnacho goal which was ruled out], wrong angle. It’s a penalty on [Rasmus] Hojlund and then we concede a goal [scored by Declan Rice] where there’s a foul on Jonny Evans. It's so clear and obvious. Okay, you can now say finish your chances. You can say don't concede the goal after you go 1-0 up. Yeah, it's all true. But I think there's really a step forward and I was happy with the performance. [The Declan Rice goal] is offside so you have to accept it but I see the angle. I don’t see [it] as offside. No [I have not sought clarification from the officials] but that doesn’t change the result. That is what it is. You have to accept it.”
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September 04, 2023, 09:08:47 AM
Yesterday I didn't watch the Arsenal vs Man U match to the end and switched it off after Man U's goal wasn't counted due to VAR... Now I looked at the stats of the game and saw that Arsenal managed to score two goals in the last minutes... Shame I missed the most interesting moments... It really was a great game...
Before now people were  really complaining about VAR, but I was one of those who defended VAR by telling people that it is a new technology that needs a favourable ground to prosper. Although VAR cancelled some vibes of football but I still preferred it to the analogue type of refereeing since it was meant to eradicate mistakes and injustice. But of recent I am doubtful about the VAR and the guys that operates in the VAR room. I have had many reasons to question VAR decisions even last night.  There are some infinitesimal cases that needed to be overlooked for the love of football, but VAR will function better in those cases while neglecting the obvious cases. The disallowed Manchester United goal is a case study.

I had a different opinion about the offside. When I saw the replay, I was sure that the goal would count. It was obvious that there was no offside during the pass. And those lines can be drawn however you like. Arsenal would have lost 100% if the goal had not been canceled. But in fact the Gunners looked stronger for the whole match.
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September 04, 2023, 09:07:55 AM
An exciting match for both of them, especially as Arsenal continued to press so they got a gap in the last minute and forced Manchester United to concede two goals in just a few minutes. Arsenal played well at home as hosts, of course they had to give their best for everyone. their fans and make sure to reap three points from this match to get on the winning track again to get a better position at the top of the standings.

Declan rice is a good defensive midfielder and Arsenal made the right decision to sign him. He will go on to create memories with Arsenal just as he has started with a great win against Manchester united. Declan rice played very well against Manchester united and got a goal.

Manchester united is weak at their defense and that's why they conceded a goal just one minute after scoring Arsenal. Their defense also lack concentration because knowing the game was about to end, they would had defended properly and taken home one point.

The officiating staffs of the game contributed in Manchester united losing because they officiated very poorly but that wasn't an excuse because from how Arsenal played, they would had still found a way to win the game and as for the last goal, G. Jesus is world class.
A very tough day for Man United. The start of the season has not been long since it started but Man United had to lose 2 of their best defenders due to injuries. Frankly, there will always be anxiety when watching Maguire play but this cannot be avoided because Johnny Evans is no better than Maguire either. This is truly a big problem that Ten Hag must immediately fix.
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September 04, 2023, 09:06:13 AM
In first half we have good performance from the Manchester United which helps them for having end of this half on level with Arsenal, but second half mostly dominated by Arsenal even they fail to score goal in 45 minutes but still they were in complete control and then suddenly have two goals in injury time which give them full three points after awful end against Fulham at this same place.

Manchester United also have some improvement, but they still need more improvement with things are looking not right hopefully now in this break we will have some work from Erik ten Hag for the change of strategy and bringing improvement before it's too late, and they faced another exit from the top four because right now after four round they are at the 11th spot with -2 goals difference which is surely not positive end of month for them.
Arsenal recent display indeed reflects their maturity and resilience on the field. Declan Rice's impactful performance and crucial goal showcased his value since joining from West Ham. While Havertz may have room for improvement Arsenal depth is evident. Manchester United new striker also left a promising impression despite facing formidable defenders in Gabriel and Saliba. The match was a tough contest and Arsenal late goals turned the tide in their favor showing their potential against strong opponents like Manchester united. This victory bodes well for their future encounters with other formidable teams in upcoming matches.
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September 04, 2023, 09:02:22 AM
[....]I also don't know for sure whether the VAR decision for the goal scored by Garnacho was correct or not because after that incident it was Arsenal who managed to turn things around.
What are you trying to say here? Arsenal's last two goals has nothing to do with the disallowed MU goal. If you have a problem with the call then point it out on a technical level and not come of as someone saying MU was robbed of that goal so Arsenal could win. Garnacho was offside by the slightest of margins.
Many people are viewing some circumstances through the lens of emotion. The VAR intervention on Garnacho's goal was because there was a possibility of offside detection, and they confirmed that Garnacho was off, which is why the goal was ruled out; additionally, Manchester United fans were relieved that the Havertz penalty incident was overlooked because they believe there is no contact and have forgotten how Refree helped them against Nottingham Forest and Wolves earlier this season. As far as I'm concerned, the game was impeccably refereed, and the goals from Rice and Jesus had nothing to do with the referee's decision.
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September 04, 2023, 08:56:22 AM
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The game really showed why we shouldn't stop watching early. I mean, an extra 11 minutes? That's nut.! And that time was, to me, the heart of how unpredictable the Premier League is. I couldn't believe that Rice's shot went back in and that Onana missed the block. Really, how fast! Man U. was trying to get a draw, and Arsenal scored a goal late in the game thanks to Gabriel Jess. It seems like both teams changed how they played because of that long extra time. How could that be? It's frustrating to think about what could have happened if you had watched until the end

This is a new regulation that is implemented by the FA, strict sanctions are also prepared by the FA for individuals or teams who commit violations. The FA has also adopted the additional time or injury time system that was previously used at the 2022 world cup in Qatar. and we, have seen it in a few of these competitions.

In essence, the Gunners succeeded in overthrowing the Red Devil at their own headquarters, Emirates Stadium. As previously predicted, this match will present an exciting match between the two teams. Rice, scored his first goal with Arsenal and proved he was a worthy player. while the final goal was scored by Gabriel Jesus. as a result, Arsenal won full points for this match and placed 5th in the standings. even though in reality, there is only a difference of two points from Manchester City who are at the top of the standings.

On the other hand, United actually had several opportunities but unfortunately they were unable to increase their number of goals. Of the three counter-attacks that United had, only one was utilized very well. In this match, Manchester United were just unlucky, in the final seconds of the match, they were unable to maintain their position after the match had progressed in normal time. in the end, Arsenal managed to win this match.
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September 04, 2023, 08:45:48 AM

I think lately there have been problems with Manchstr United and there has been a lot of criticism towards coach Erik Ten Hag who is given the responsibility to improve United's performance but nothing has changed in these few matches even Ten Hag made a mistake in yesterday's match a lot of people don't like this coach's decision, but nevertheless it is a decision that he considers very wise.
With so much criticism and problems happening to United, is this a sign that Ten Hag will be replaced by another coach?
I don't expect this to happen but if it's for the best to change coaches for the better future of United I think it's fine.
Every coach knows what's best for his team and they feature players based on their performance in the training and if a player doesn't impress them enough then they'll be left with no option but to not feature them in matches, but my issue with Eric Ten Hag is starting Martial in place of Højlund and Dalot in place of Regullion, you bought a player to replace lukeshaw who's injured why not feature him in the match instead of playing him out of position, well apart from that he's a good coach and has improved the teams performance just that'd he's not been given the right backing by the board to get his preferred players and the whole drama happening in the club would bounce back to the players who are incompetent on handling situations on the club, they invest little and get more benefits which is very bad.
 Manchester united is gradually losing it's value as one of the biggest club in the world and this season is going to be horrible for them with the glaziers still present as their owners and several incompetent players making the starting 11 currently, we would has seen a better united if they invested heavily on several areas that needed strengthening and offloading the deadwoods like Harry Maguire and Co I feel pity for Eric Ten Hag because united would ruin his career.
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September 04, 2023, 08:38:04 AM
I really don't know what to say about Chelsea anymore because this team even if it has massive talent , they really don't look like a team when they play and when they win , it's just from pure skill and not actually playing like a team. Today , they lost again and I think a new coach might come to Chelsea this Autumn to try and save the start of the season.

I no longer support Chelsea, and if you bet on them to win, they won't let you. I find it impossible to believe that this tiny team will be able to defeat Chelsea, and I seriously doubt that they will ever be good again. Chelsea has signed more players than any other team this year, and yet they haven't won anything. Even after changing the coach, nothing has improved. I believe Chelsea will never be as strong as they were in the past. At the start of the game, when they were tied at 0-0 at halftime, I had hoped Chelsea would win or draw, but instead, they made mistakes that allowed them to lose.

The most surprising aspect is that when Chelsea has a chance to score, the players will play the ball out and some can't play it in a normal way. It would be better if Chelsea didn't even sign any players this season because I can see that the players they used last season are even better than this season's own; all of the players are young players and I still don't even understand their performance; I don't think Chelsea will make a good position this season.
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