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I wondered if I am the only one who feels like Manchester United coach Erik Ten Hag did not feel disappointed when he said all those words in the press conference, imagine how a coach opens his mouth he says the team doesn't have what it takes to win a trophy, a coach can not be saying all those things that he is saying and again he is still the problem of the team, Manchester United should realize that the coach is the main problem of the team, I have never seen any coach that keeps doing the same thing that makes his team lose except Manchester united coach.

Manchester United's problem is not just the coach, it's a problem that started in 2004 when the Glazers family bought Manchester United, the team started to slowly fall apart. At that time it wasn't very visible because they had a good coach, Sir Alex Ferguson, who had been at Manchester United since 1986, so the Glazers family didn't fire him, which is why Manchester United didn't sink. But after 2013 when Alex Ferguson left Manchester United.

it started to become visible that the club's owners were not prepared to manage the club and everything got worse because instead of selling the entire club, they only sold 27.7% to Sir Jim Ratcliffe and in practice the Glazers family is still in charge. Now Manchester United has 2 owners (Glazers and Sir Jim Ratcliffe), has 3 coaches ( Erik ten Hag Manager, René Hake Assistant Manager and Ruud van Nistelrooy Assistant Manager ), the whole club is at a very ridiculous. As long as Manchester United have these owners, they will not succeed. Unfortunately
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That's why I said "if they lose" means there is still a 50% chance of winning. If I say "definitely lose" it means a 100% chance.

Isn't there anything wrong with doubting Manchester United? with Erik Ten Hag who always has difficulty utilizing his players. The goalkeeper who has inconsistent performance this season, the attack line that has no vision of scoring goals and new purchases are injured, it is no wonder to doubt the next performance against Southampton. still makes sense
Considering the level of inconsistency in the Manchester United team under Erik ten Hag, I don't think there's anything wrong with your opinion is absolutely valid. If Manchester City or Liverpool were to be the team that's facing Southampton this weekend, I'm very sure you'll have a different opinion but because it's Manchester United, there's every possibility that they'll be beaten by the Saints.

Different people give their opinions here without being sentimental while others do based on their sentiments and how passionate they're about their beloved clubs but in the end, we all are free to express our opinions regarding English Premier League related issues on this thread.


Almost all of us have doubts about the Red Devils, whether it's the coach who is struggling to build or the quality of players who are declining. Even Marcus Rashford seems to have run out of time at United, Bruno Fernandez cannot work alone without a partner who can understand his wishes. There are so many issues we can talk about with Man United, but this week game against Southampton is a must win. Although there are a number of doubts about the club performance, at least with the opponent's condition also much worse, Erik Ten Hag can definitely benefit.
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betting on MU is quite risky. although the Odds offered will benefit MU, its performance is unstable. on paper, MU should be able to get a winning point even though playing at Southampton's home ground. but still, I'm not sure about Ten Hag. I actually hope Southampton will give a surprise by beating MU. many fans are disappointed with Ten Hag and urge management to immediately fire him. I think it's not without reason because so much money has been spent to recruit players but the strategy implemented by Ten Hag has never succeeded in improving MU's game.
If you want to bet on the Southampton vs Manchester United match, then you can still consider a draw or Manchester United winning over Southampton. Manchester United's winning probability is quite convincing in my opinion, but you can bet on a draw if you don't believe in the away team's chances of winning. I have confidence in Manchester United to win that match, it's good to just have fun.

Ten Hag will try to win the full 3 points in this away match following two previous defeats against Liverpool and Brighton. There is no reason for Ten Hag to remain silent on the sidelines and watch his team get beaten by a bottom team like Southampton, if he did then it would really be a shame for Ten Hag. He must find a definite solution so he can go home with a maximum of 3 points, including finding the right lineup and strategy.
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Manchester United have a head to head that has dominated the victory over Southampton, so no one doubts that Manchester United will win to Southampton in the match, but there is no harm in talking about the potential surprises that might be present in this match, especially indeed Manchester United is in bad form and Ten Hag is currently under pressure to be fired from Manchester United, in terms of player quality of course Manchester United is much better than Southampton and it is true that Southampton is currently weaker than Fulham, but we can't judging a match only based on head to head so far, we must to learn from last season where Manchester United also lost several times to quite weak teams, so I think all possibilities could happen in that the match, especially in the their last few meet  it is very visible if Manchester United has a really hard time beating Southampton.


I know Manchester United is in poor form at the moment, but if I had to choose, I would choose the odds for Manchester United to win. Not without reason, because what I see is that Southampton is also not better than Man United, where they always get defeated.

I guess, Man United will desperately to get their win because that's the only way to calm his supporters down and at the same time cool the seats that Ten Hag was sitting on. It might not be easy, but with Ugarte, I think Man United have a chance here.
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betting on MU is quite risky. although the Odds offered will benefit MU, its performance is unstable. on paper, MU should be able to get a winning point even though playing at Southampton's home ground. but still, I'm not sure about Ten Hag. I actually hope Southampton will give a surprise by beating MU. many fans are disappointed with Ten Hag and urge management to immediately fire him. I think it's not without reason because so much money has been spent to recruit players but the strategy implemented by Ten Hag has never succeeded in improving MU's game.
I also think that betting on Man united at the moment will always be more risky. Because they don't seem to have found their own game pattern. They are like a team that is still confused at the moment. And I think all of this is caused by their coach who cannot bring out the maximum quality from this team. But even so, Man United should still be stronger than Southampton.

We can see Southampton's record at the start of this season which really shows a very bad record. They have lost 3 times in a row in their opening 3 matches at the start of this season. So I think betting on Man United is quite risky. but because their opponent this time is Southampton, I think we can still consider betting on Man United. But if it turns out that Man United is not able to beat Southampton then I don't think we will expect Man United to return at all this season.
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Wait, when was people doubting Manchester United will struggle against Southampton?

Manchester United weren't win against Liverpool 2x times, Brighton, and Manchester City. These are big and strong teams, Southampton is a weak team, even weaker than Fulham, don't forget Manchester United won against Fulham.

So, speculating Manchester United will not beat Southampton is hilarious.
You can’t blame anyone for doubting them because their inconsistency caused it upon themselves, it is now difficult to predict who Manchester United can beat and who they cannot. Somedays they will play well somedays they will not, somedays they will perform well against big teams and the next week they will perform poorly against bottom table teams so no one can be blamed for not believing in them anymore they need to be consistent with their performance if they want people to stop doubting them, at least be consistent in beating bottom table teams.

Southampton is one of the worst teams at the moment and statistically United should be able to beat them but we have seen cases in the past where Manchester United failed to pick maximum points against such teams. I also believe they can win them though I can’t place a bet on them.
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Manchester United have a head to head that has dominated the victory over Southampton, so no one doubts that Manchester United will win to Southampton in the match, but there is no harm in talking about the potential surprises that might be present in this match, especially indeed Manchester United is in bad form and Ten Hag is currently under pressure to be fired from Manchester United, in terms of player quality of course Manchester United is much better than Southampton and it is true that Southampton is currently weaker than Fulham, but we can't judging a match only based on head to head so far, we must to learn from last season where Manchester United also lost several times to quite weak teams, so I think all possibilities could happen in that the match, especially in the their last few meet  it is very visible if Manchester United has a really hard time beating Southampton.

betting on MU is quite risky. although the Odds offered will benefit MU, its performance is unstable. on paper, MU should be able to get a winning point even though playing at Southampton's home ground. but still, I'm not sure about Ten Hag. I actually hope Southampton will give a surprise by beating MU. many fans are disappointed with Ten Hag and urge management to immediately fire him. I think it's not without reason because so much money has been spent to recruit players but the strategy implemented by Ten Hag has never succeeded in improving MU's game.
Ten Hag even sacked Cristiano Ronaldo. I think his football knowledge is not enough for the Premier League. Manchester United's great success in recent years is almost non-existent. There is only one FA CUP and I think that is not a significant success for Manchester United. That's why I am one of the people who thinks that he should be sacked from his team.
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The way some manager talk in the press conference is a bit disappointing, as a manager to make a name for yourself you need to change the mentality of the club you're handling and always stay positive, winning trophies is also the number 1 task you need to accomplish but Manchester United coach says things the way he feels without mind if his reputation is at stake. How can he say the team doesn't have what it takes to win trophies? Like he doesn't even have confidence in the squad he is managing even if they are not good enough to deliver but you are there as the coach to help them from that suffering stage, to me it speaks low of him that he isn't capable of managing any club.
I agree with what Cristiano Ronaldo said, it is too poor for the manager to have that weakness and even letting the public know they can't compete for any title, which means the game against Southampton is going to be a game they're going to lose. I now see why some Manchester United players perform very well when playing for their country but awfully while playing for UTD. ETH has lost it and to me he doesn't deserve the chance to continue with the club.

I wondered if I am the only one who feels like Manchester United coach Erik Ten Hag did not feel disappointed when he said all those words in the press conference, imagine how a coach opens his mouth he says the team doesn't have what it takes to win a trophy, a coach can not be saying all those things that he is saying and again he is still the problem of the team, Manchester United should realize that the coach is the main problem of the team, I have never seen any coach that keeps doing the same thing that makes his team lose except Manchester united coach.

I didn't blame Ronaldo for leaving the team because he knew that the coach would never let the team improve and since when Ronaldo left the team the team never had any good strike player that could help the team and even if the team had a coach would be using player's who are not good to play game and be conceding goals, who notice that any player that left Manchester united team and goes to another team always perform well and who is the cause of the players to leave is Manchester united coach, I will keep saying it that the coach is the problem of Manchester united.
He's just a coach who doesn't know how to utilize the good players on the team. I think Ten Hag is increasingly showing his selfishness. And to be honest, I was quite disappointed with what came out of his mouth regarding the condition of the Man United squad. I would be even more incomprehensible if a coach like him continued to be retained on this team. I think the club has to make a quick decision if in the next few matches Man United still has the same bad results.

Yes, Ronaldo is a very experienced player in many big teams, he understands the situation there at that time. And now what he said regarding this team is also starting to happen. This team actually always has great players in it. For example Bruno Fernandes. He was a great Portuguese player but when he was at Manchester United he seemed to have lost his sharpness. And so do many other great players who seem to have lost their performance while playing for Man United. I also think the problem there is not with the players but with their coach, namely ten Hag.
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Erik Ten Hag is on the verge of losing his job if Man U loses 3-4 next match he will sacked by the Man U Upper authorities. He is not trying new tactics not even new game plans and try to implement old fashion strategies which not worked properly for himself and his players.
Ten Hag is expected to be able to change the playing strategy of the Manchester United players in the next match because currently there are many harsh criticisms coming to him from Manchester United fans themselves. Because the Manchester United team already has fairly reliable players, it's just that sometimes they often lose direction and also can't finish so well when the ball is in front of the opponent's goal. And in this upcoming match I see the opponent who will meet Manchester United is an opponent who is not strong enough so it is very much hoped that Manchester United can be able to win the match.
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Considering the level of inconsistency in the Manchester United team under Erik ten Hag, I don't think there's anything wrong with your opinion is absolutely valid. If Manchester City or Liverpool were to be the team that's facing Southampton this weekend, I'm very sure you'll have a different opinion but because it's Manchester United, there's every possibility that they'll be beaten by the Saints.
It's easy to tag the Red devil's to be one of the weakest teams in the EPL at the moment, but after seeing some of its players put up a good performance in the international games...I have a feeling this could be a turning point for for the Red Devils...and by the way it's not like Southampton themselves are in such a good form that it could guarantee them that victory that is being talked about, they need to put in the work to get a goal!

Different people give their opinions here without being sentimental while others do based on their sentiments and how passionate they're about their beloved clubs but in the end, we all are free to express our opinions regarding English Premier League related issues on this thread.
Lol we are all entitled to our opinions and a game of sport will always have different views.
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That's why I said "if they lose" means there is still a 50% chance of winning. If I say "definitely lose" it means a 100% chance.

Isn't there anything wrong with doubting Manchester United? with Erik Ten Hag who always has difficulty utilizing his players. The goalkeeper who has inconsistent performance this season, the attack line that has no vision of scoring goals and new purchases are injured, it is no wonder to doubt the next performance against Southampton. still makes sense
Anything can happen, because it's an away game Man United could struggle so I'll skip the bet for the team, already a few losers picked Man United to win.

Of course I myself still doubt Erik Ten Hag, their tactics have not changed in the loss they have lost several times, and that tactic is all I saw throughout the match, so it is natural that many people doubt even though the chances of winning could be above 50%.

If Man United win naturally, if they lose then don't be surprised they can lose to any team.
Yea, considering the poor performance of the club recently, no one can boldly say that Manchester United will win Southampton because they lack the tactics which they can use to win the game. Ten Hag is just claiming to be a professional coach whereas he is just an average coach with no game pattern but put the blame on the blames without accepting his own mistake.

It would be better if he accepts his incompetency of being the head coach of United so that the management can hire a professional coach to handle the job. Let it not be that this season will not end up like last season which from the beginning of the season to the end all the fans were not happy, and the club faced a lot of difficulties. If this poor performance continues, I don't think that i will ever bet on United anymore till Ten Hag leaves the club.
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Considering the level of inconsistency in the Manchester United team under Erik ten Hag, I don't think there's anything wrong with your opinion is absolutely valid. If Manchester City or Liverpool were to be the team that's facing Southampton this weekend, I'm very sure you'll have a different opinion but because it's Manchester United, there's every possibility that they'll be beaten by the Saints.
Inconsistency does not give Ten Hag right or privilege to fail match to match, and if he performs like this, he will lose his job. It's easy, as a boss, assume I am, I care more about results, temporary results and plan for future. But having 2 seasons and this one is a third season, but fail to get acceptable temporary results, is bad enough to forget about any good long term plan. When belief is destroyed, a long term plan will become bad and unbelievable, the contract will be terminated.

Ten Hag must know that risk increases with time and each poor performance, and he must wake up as soon as possible for bringing good results to Manchester United boss. Competing with Manchester City and Liverpool in this season is impossible for Ten Hag and Manchester United because their quality is not good enough.
Erik Ten Hag is on the verge of losing his job if Man U loses 3-4 next match he will sacked by the Man U Upper authorities. He is not trying new tactics not even new game plans and try to implement old fashion strategies which not worked properly for himself and his players.
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betting on MU is quite risky. although the Odds offered will benefit MU, its performance is unstable. on paper, MU should be able to get a winning point even though playing at Southampton's home ground. but still, I'm not sure about Ten Hag. I actually hope Southampton will give a surprise by beating MU. many fans are disappointed with Ten Hag and urge management to immediately fire him. I think it's not without reason because so much money has been spent to recruit players but the strategy implemented by Ten Hag has never succeeded in improving MU's game.
Fans who are already disappointed with Ten Hag's leadership really hope that MU will lose at Southampton headquarters, they are tired of MU performance which has not improved and want his position to be replaced by another coach immediately. I wouldn't bet on United winning this match even though on paper they can win this match because their H2H shows that United always have a hard time beating Southampton. A surprise could happen, especially as the home team is desperate to win, perhaps MU fans will side with Southampton and hope they can beat MU so that Ten Hag can be sacked soon.
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Manchester United have a head to head that has dominated the victory over Southampton, so no one doubts that Manchester United will win to Southampton in the match, but there is no harm in talking about the potential surprises that might be present in this match, especially indeed Manchester United is in bad form and Ten Hag is currently under pressure to be fired from Manchester United, in terms of player quality of course Manchester United is much better than Southampton and it is true that Southampton is currently weaker than Fulham, but we can't judging a match only based on head to head so far, we must to learn from last season where Manchester United also lost several times to quite weak teams, so I think all possibilities could happen in that the match, especially in the their last few meet  it is very visible if Manchester United has a really hard time beating Southampton.

betting on MU is quite risky. although the Odds offered will benefit MU, its performance is unstable. on paper, MU should be able to get a winning point even though playing at Southampton's home ground. but still, I'm not sure about Ten Hag. I actually hope Southampton will give a surprise by beating MU. many fans are disappointed with Ten Hag and urge management to immediately fire him. I think it's not without reason because so much money has been spent to recruit players but the strategy implemented by Ten Hag has never succeeded in improving MU's game.

Currently, people consider it too risky to bet on Manchester United, the team is currently in a lot of disappointment. Of course, you are right, there is a lot of frustration working with Manchester United coach Ten Haag at the moment. 
Moreover, Manchester United's hope of winning at Southampton's home ground will be very low. Southampton can beat Manchester United if they have a strong attack, and Manchester United's current game situation is not improving at all. So Manchester United's Odds should not be expected to win, although MU has a chance to win, but it is definitely risky, and I think Southampton will play their best in today's match and not let Manchester United win easily at home.
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Considering the level of inconsistency in the Manchester United team under Erik ten Hag, I don't think there's anything wrong with your opinion is absolutely valid. If Manchester City or Liverpool were to be the team that's facing Southampton this weekend, I'm very sure you'll have a different opinion but because it's Manchester United, there's every possibility that they'll be beaten by the Saints.
Inconsistency does not give Ten Hag right or privilege to fail match to match, and if he performs like this, he will lose his job. It's easy, as a boss, assume I am, I care more about results, temporary results and plan for future. But having 2 seasons and this one is a third season, but fail to get acceptable temporary results, is bad enough to forget about any good long term plan. When belief is destroyed, a long term plan will become bad and unbelievable, the contract will be terminated.

Ten Hag must know that risk increases with time and each poor performance, and he must wake up as soon as possible for bringing good results to Manchester United boss. Competing with Manchester City and Liverpool in this season is impossible for Ten Hag and Manchester United because their quality is not good enough.
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Manchester United have a head to head that has dominated the victory over Southampton, so no one doubts that Manchester United will win to Southampton in the match, but there is no harm in talking about the potential surprises that might be present in this match, especially indeed Manchester United is in bad form and Ten Hag is currently under pressure to be fired from Manchester United, in terms of player quality of course Manchester United is much better than Southampton and it is true that Southampton is currently weaker than Fulham, but we can't judging a match only based on head to head so far, we must to learn from last season where Manchester United also lost several times to quite weak teams, so I think all possibilities could happen in that the match, especially in the their last few meet  it is very visible if Manchester United has a really hard time beating Southampton.

betting on MU is quite risky. although the Odds offered will benefit MU, its performance is unstable. on paper, MU should be able to get a winning point even though playing at Southampton's home ground. but still, I'm not sure about Ten Hag. I actually hope Southampton will give a surprise by beating MU. many fans are disappointed with Ten Hag and urge management to immediately fire him. I think it's not without reason because so much money has been spent to recruit players but the strategy implemented by Ten Hag has never succeeded in improving MU's game.

As it is now, I think man united are the most risky team for any one to even out their money cause that club is just something else and the worse part is that the whole management of the club are actually fine seeing that the dutch man is making things worse day by day because I know ten hag was due for sack with the dreadful way he played and performed with Manchester united but on the very last day he changed everyone mindset by winning the FA cup which lots of fans was happy since they took it off their city rivals.
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Overall Southampton's strength is not better than Manchester United but we also have to look at the current condition of both teams, Southampton who have not yet got their best performance and Manchester United who are currently slumping because of two defeats at the beginning of this season which received a lot of criticism so because of the pressure on these two teams I think it makes both of them have great ambitions to be able to win the match so it is likely that both teams will play aggressively so regardless of what happened in the previous matches but I am sure in this match there will be many goals scored so I plan to bet on over goals in this match, I think it is quite worth it.
Playing too aggressively can also be quite fatal for both of them because it could have the potential to injure players from both teams. I think the Manchester United team must play better with their current condition and not have to be too aggressive in order to win because if there is a mistake in a more aggressive condition it will also make them lose with a counterattack from Southampton. So I just think that both teams will try their best to win and in terms of the number of goals it could be more even though my heart is more confident in victory for Manchester United in the match.
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That's why I said "if they lose" means there is still a 50% chance of winning. If I say "definitely lose" it means a 100% chance.

Isn't there anything wrong with doubting Manchester United? with Erik Ten Hag who always has difficulty utilizing his players. The goalkeeper who has inconsistent performance this season, the attack line that has no vision of scoring goals and new purchases are injured, it is no wonder to doubt the next performance against Southampton. still makes sense
Considering the level of inconsistency in the Manchester United team under Erik ten Hag, I don't think there's anything wrong with your opinion is absolutely valid. If Manchester City or Liverpool were to be the team that's facing Southampton this weekend, I'm very sure you'll have a different opinion but because it's Manchester United, there's every possibility that they'll be beaten by the Saints.

Different people give their opinions here without being sentimental while others do based on their sentiments and how passionate they're about their beloved clubs but in the end, we all are free to express our opinions regarding English Premier League related issues on this thread.

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The way some manager talk in the press conference is a bit disappointing, as a manager to make a name for yourself you need to change the mentality of the club you're handling and always stay positive, winning trophies is also the number 1 task you need to accomplish but Manchester United coach says things the way he feels without mind if his reputation is at stake. How can he say the team doesn't have what it takes to win trophies? Like he doesn't even have confidence in the squad he is managing even if they are not good enough to deliver but you are there as the coach to help them from that suffering stage, to me it speaks low of him that he isn't capable of managing any club.
I agree with what Cristiano Ronaldo said, it is too poor for the manager to have that weakness and even letting the public know they can't compete for any title, which means the game against Southampton is going to be a game they're going to lose. I now see why some Manchester United players perform very well when playing for their country but awfully while playing for UTD. ETH has lost it and to me he doesn't deserve the chance to continue with the club.
These managers are well trained and know how to handle the press and if you take football managers word exactly the way it is you might not actually get the message he is trying to pass. Every manager will always tell you that their squad don't have what it takes to win the trophies. In this case I think Eric Ten Hag is trying to use what is called reverse psychology on his players. And if you don't understand you might think that he's playing down the chances of his team winning trophies this season. But indirectly he is trying to ginger up the players and make them see reasons why they should up their games and prove him wrong. No manager at this early stage of the season will confidently come out openly and say his team will win trophies. The season is still long that's why he is not trying to raise the hope of the fans. What happens if he publicly say he is going to win trophies and it didn't materialize. So he is trying to keep everything on balance.
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