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Quote from: naira on June 08, 2022, 01:26:56 PM

Will the likes of Manchester United and Arsenal be closer to the relegation zone?

If someone answered yes, would you dare call it bullshit?

Quote from: naira on June 08, 2022, 01:26:56 PM

there are other clubs far worse than that. Manchester United can bounce back a bit and will not come close to the relegation zone even if they don't play optimally. Not because the potential possessed by this club is lacking but there is a fairly long lag time next season. In addition, Arsenal also made improvements by bringing Jesus from Manchester City. Rumors of his arrival will add little impetus to Arsenal going forward.

You've answered it yourself to the question above, so I don't think it's too important to ask. I wouldn't dare say Manchester United and Arsenal will be thrown into the relegation zone despite their poor form. Just look at what Arsenal did at the beginning of the 2021-2022 season, they stumbled but in the end Arteta managed to increase the motivation of his players so that they almost qualified for the Champions League next season. The same goes for Manchester United, but unfortunately both teams have to settle for only qualifying for the Europa League next season.

Jesus is a good player at Manchester City, he probably deserves to be at Arsenal ^{[if they are interested]} but either way Jesus looks like would love to be a Manchester City player with more chances of winning titles than Arsenal. Don't forget Arsenal is only in the Europa League, while Manchester City is in the Champions League.

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Gabriel Jesus is one of the attracting players who are likely to leave their teams now. He is a very talented striker in the first place and I expect to see some big clubs trying to sign him in the summer. Arsenal are one of these teams now but there is a problem about this situation too. Actually it depends on Gabriel Jesus to see it as a problem or not. Arsenal aren't going to be in the Champions League next season and I don't know how much money they can pay to sign him too.

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Quote from: Sterbens on June 08, 2022, 12:07:36 PM

Quote from: xzone on June 08, 2022, 10:20:52 AM

Gabriel Jesus is a very good player but I don't think Real Madrid will be interested in this player. They won't need Jesus when they have better players on the team.
Also, if Jesus comes to Real Madrid, he will not have a chance to play many games and therefore his performance will decrease.
I think it would be better if he chose Arsenal, as far as I heard Arsenal allocated 40 million euros to buy Gabriel Jesus, while Manchester City want more money

I agree, the rumors to Arsenal are much more suitable for Gabriel Jesus. There was no ideal place to move more if he went to Madrid. The reason is, Gabriel has the advantage of staying at a club that really needs encouragement, while Real Madrid already has that position in terms of formation. At this moment Arsenal is the club that provides the money to bid for Gabriel.

Arsenal are very insistent on signing Gabriel Jesus. Arsenal is currently experiencing a striker crisis. They have just left Alexandre Lacazette whose contract expires this summer. But in my opinion, Jesus is very appropriate to join the Gunners. But Real Madrid and Chelsea have also expressed interest in Jesus. Gabriel Jesus had no other choice but to leave. If he stays at City, Jesus' role will likely be smaller, it can't be separated from the arrival of Erling Haaland and Julian Alvarez.

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on June 08, 2022, 12:46:31 PM

Arsenal, and Manchester United both clubs need the best of the players there can lay the hands-on, this is because of their performance in the just concluded premier league season, but with the right strategy, the club may revive but if not there may sleep into the relegation zone after next season.

You are underestimating Arsenal and Manchester United too much, I'd say they will not be in the relegation zone next season even if there is no change at all from the last season.
I can even say that they will not be in that position even they play with all their secondary players during the whole season.
I do not mean to underestimate other teams but there are still many teams that not even better than Arsenal and United.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on June 08, 2022, 01:12:08 PM

Maybe they can play together? Benzema is not a guy that aims at scoring at all times, he was leading assists in la liga as well, meaning that he is capable of passing whenever needed. I do not know how they could do that, but have vini on the left, and Benzema and Jesus upfront and maybe rodrygo on the right and you could definitely see some improvements. Not going to be simple to make them play together, but it could be done.

You're right, Benzema's goal is not just to score. He assists in scoring goals. This is why Real Madrid has been able to win both the Champions League and La Liga titles. And if Benzema can maintain that form next season, we will see Real Madrid reign in La Liga again.

Quote from: RealMalatesta on June 08, 2022, 01:12:08 PM

I still think that they do not need a young star, but if they want to, they could also make him a sub as well, Benzema can't play every game, he is old now, so they will use Benzema when they can, and sub him with Jesus when Benzema can't play.

I can't agree with you. Real Madrid definitely needs a young talented striker. The main reason for this is that it is not easy for a new player to adapt to the new squad. It takes time. Benzema will probably play another 2-3 seasons. And if he suddenly leaves Real Madrid, the Real Madrid team will not find a suitable replacement for him. And so Benzema's replacement needs to be found now.

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on June 08, 2022, 12:46:31 PM

Arsenal, and Manchester United both clubs need the best of the players there can lay the hands-on, this is because of their performance in the just concluded premier league season, but with the right strategy, the club may revive but if not there may sleep into the relegation zone after next season.

I saw players like Benzema from real Madrid making transfer moves, I guess we will see quite a good number of transfers before next season.

Will the likes of Manchester United and Arsenal be closer to the relegation zone? there are other clubs far worse than that. Manchester United can bounce back a bit and will not come close to the relegation zone even if they don't play optimally. Not because the potential possessed by this club is lacking but there is a fairly long lag time next season. In addition, Arsenal also made improvements by bringing Jesus from Manchester City. Rumors of his arrival will add little impetus to Arsenal going forward.

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Quote from: Bobrox on June 08, 2022, 09:21:17 AM

I think not really bad with Gabriel Jesus replace Karim Benzema because Gabriel played well for Manchester City but less contribution in this season, but still have different level between Gabriel Jesus with Karim Benzema, right now not any new forward have good level than Gabriel Jesus for Real Madrid but looks Carlo Ancelotti not have priority with Gabriel Jesus on this window transfer time. Real Madrid keep priority with Karim Benzema after impressive performance last season and become top scorer for Real Madrid on La Liga.

Maybe they can play together? Benzema is not a guy that aims at scoring at all times, he was leading assists in la liga as well, meaning that he is capable of passing whenever needed. I do not know how they could do that, but have vini on the left, and Benzema and Jesus upfront and maybe rodrygo on the right and you could definitely see some improvements. Not going to be simple to make them play together, but it could be done.

I still think that they do not need a young star, but if they want to, they could also make him a sub as well, Benzema can't play every game, he is old now, so they will use Benzema when they can, and sub him with Jesus when Benzema can't play.

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Quote from: xzone on June 08, 2022, 10:20:52 AM

Gabriel Jesus is a very good player but I don't think Real Madrid will be interested in this player. They won't need Jesus when they have better players on the team.
Also, if Jesus comes to Real Madrid, he will not have a chance to play many games and therefore his performance will decrease.
I think it would be better if he chose Arsenal, as far as I heard Arsenal allocated 40 million euros to buy Gabriel Jesus, while Manchester City want more money

Jesus is better at Arsenal than Real Madrid because I think Arsenal's style of play is not that different from Manchester City. After all, Jesus didn't need much time to settle at Arsenal and would probably be guaranteed to become a regular there. But in the end he has to decide his future whether he wants to stay at Manchester City and compete with Haaland or choose another team.

Several Premier League teams currently appear to be interested in his services, and Serie A teams also appear to be interested. Staying at Manchester City is not the best option in my opinion and it looks like he will have to think about his future at another team rather than having to compete for a place with Haaland.

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Arsenal, and Manchester United both clubs need the best of the players there can lay the hands-on, this is because of their performance in the just concluded premier league season, but with the right strategy, the club may revive but if not there may sleep into the relegation zone after next season.

I saw players like Benzema from real Madrid making transfer moves, I guess we will see quite a good number of transfers before next season.

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Quote from: xzone on June 08, 2022, 10:20:52 AM

Gabriel Jesus is a very good player but I don't think Real Madrid will be interested in this player. They won't need Jesus when they have better players on the team.
Also, if Jesus comes to Real Madrid, he will not have a chance to play many games and therefore his performance will decrease.
I think it would be better if he chose Arsenal, as far as I heard Arsenal allocated 40 million euros to buy Gabriel Jesus, while Manchester City want more money

I agree, the rumors to Arsenal are much more suitable for Gabriel Jesus. There was no ideal place to move more if he went to Madrid. The reason is, Gabriel has the advantage of staying at a club that really needs encouragement, while Real Madrid already has that position in terms of formation. At this moment Arsenal is the club that provides the money to bid for Gabriel.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on June 08, 2022, 03:33:08 AM

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Gabriel Jesus is followed by various teams these days. I have seen another rumour like even Real Madrid started to be interested in signing him. However the source wasn't that much reliable as far as I remember now. Grin

I don't think that Real Madrid need a player like Gabriel Jesus now. If they think of a replacement for Benzema then their target would be a much bigger player than Gabriel Jesus I assume. Arsenal are the serious team to sign Gabriel Jesus for now and it would be a great transfer too.

I don't think Real Madrid managements will use Gabriel Jesus to replace Benzema that helped them to achieved champion league title in this season. Benzema is among the best strikers in the whole world which many teams wish to have such striker in their team in this season. I think, Gabriel Jesus will really help Arsenal to improve better in next season, if their managements will sign in Gabriel Jesus into the team, because he has many tactics of scoring goals to embrace victory.

Gabriel Jesus is a very good player but I don't think Real Madrid will be interested in this player. They won't need Jesus when they have better players on the team.
Also, if Jesus comes to Real Madrid, he will not have a chance to play many games and therefore his performance will decrease.
I think it would be better if he chose Arsenal, as far as I heard Arsenal allocated 40 million euros to buy Gabriel Jesus, while Manchester City want more money

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Quote from: Luzin on June 07, 2022, 11:13:44 AM

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In fact, it is necessary to assess this situation not from the point of view of one team, but from a more global scale. So next season we will have a few teams that are supposed to be strong: Liverpool, Chelsea, United, City, Tottenham, Arsenal + Newcastle +

These few weeks I didn't hear Newcastle would bring in a lot of great players. But for the better I think Newcastle have a great chance. With a new rich owner of course they can buy new players. In addition, the arrival of a new owner has also had an effect, Newcastle are not relegated. They bought some players in the winter transfer market. But it seems that Newcastle's current problem is that the rankings are too bad, maybe great players will think if they get an offer from Newcastle. It's like chelsea when Abramovic comes along, they need time for big.

With Newcastle not holding a ticket to either the Champions League or the Eurocups, their ability to buy really top players is now limited. I think next summer (or even in the winter transfer window if Newcastle are showing good results by then) everything will change. Now they have nowhere to hurry - there are many free agents on the market with large salaries but without a contract, so in fact it is now more profitable to wait and then sign some aged star for free.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on June 08, 2022, 09:07:51 AM

This will make Mane's status next year safe for Liverpool.
but if it was Mane who wanted to leave Liverpool. it could have an impact on Mane's performance in the team.
it looks like the negotiations between the two clubs are getting further and further toward an agreement. Mane will probably stay at Liverpool, at least until next year.

The fact that the offer was rejected from Bayern Munich indicates that Mane will remain at Liverpool for next year, but the possibility of increasing the offer in the transfer market will still be negotiated if they still want Mane to play in their club, but currently Liverpool are still keeping Mane unless the offer is high then maybe there is new contract agreement.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on June 08, 2022, 03:33:08 AM

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Gabriel Jesus is followed by various teams these days. I have seen another rumour like even Real Madrid started to be interested in signing him. However the source wasn't that much reliable as far as I remember now. Grin

I don't think that Real Madrid need a player like Gabriel Jesus now. If they think of a replacement for Benzema then their target would be a much bigger player than Gabriel Jesus I assume. Arsenal are the serious team to sign Gabriel Jesus for now and it would be a great transfer too.

I don't think Real Madrid managements will use Gabriel Jesus to replace Benzema that helped them to achieved champion league title in this season. Benzema is among the best strikers in the whole world which many teams wish to have such striker in their team in this season. I think, Gabriel Jesus will really help Arsenal to improve better in next season, if their managements will sign in Gabriel Jesus into the team, because he has many tactics of scoring goals to embrace victory.

I think not really bad with Gabriel Jesus replace Karim Benzema because Gabriel played well for Manchester City but less contribution in this season, but still have different level between Gabriel Jesus with Karim Benzema, right now not any new forward have good level than Gabriel Jesus for Real Madrid but looks Carlo Ancelotti not have priority with Gabriel Jesus on this window transfer time. Real Madrid keep priority with Karim Benzema after impressive performance last season and become top scorer for Real Madrid on La Liga.

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Quote from: JeWay on June 08, 2022, 07:08:37 AM

Yes liverpool refused for the second time an offer from bayern munich. Liverpool want £42.5m for Sadio Mane. I think Liverpool really will not let go of Sadio Mane if the offer that is submitted does not match the targets they set. Even though Sadio Mane really wants to leave Liverpool, if the offer is not fulfilled, Sadio Mane will automatically stay at Liverpool for next season and it will be a loss for Liverpool in the future because they have to release Sadio Mane with free transfers.

This is the consequence that Liverpool must accept. I heard that if Mane's salary talks and Liverpool hadn't deal yet it would have made a bomb ready to erupt if Liverpool wouldn't take it off. One year later maybe Mane will have trouble because his wish of leaving was not achieved. This has happened to Kane and it has an impact on his performance. I don't know if mane wants to leave or Mane just wants to increase the amount of the deal regarding his salary next season.

if Mane asks for a higher salary deal, I think Liverpool can avoid a big loss by accepting Mane's new salary offer with a contract extension.
This will make Mane's status next year safe for Liverpool.
but if it was Mane who wanted to leave Liverpool. it could have an impact on Mane's performance in the team.
it looks like the negotiations between the two clubs are getting further and further toward an agreement. Mane will probably stay at Liverpool, at least until next year.

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Quote from: JeWay on June 08, 2022, 07:08:37 AM

Yes liverpool refused for the second time an offer from bayern munich. Liverpool want £42.5m for Sadio Mane. I think Liverpool really will not let go of Sadio Mane if the offer that is submitted does not match the targets they set. Even though Sadio Mane really wants to leave Liverpool, if the offer is not fulfilled, Sadio Mane will automatically stay at Liverpool for next season and it will be a loss for Liverpool in the future because they have to release Sadio Mane with free transfers.

This is the consequence that Liverpool must accept. I heard that if Mane's salary talks and Liverpool hadn't deal yet it would have made a bomb ready to erupt if Liverpool wouldn't take it off. One year later maybe Mane will have trouble because his wish of leaving was not achieved. This has happened to Kane and it has an impact on his performance. I don't know if mane wants to leave or Mane just wants to increase the amount of the deal regarding his salary next season.

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Quote from: eightdots on June 08, 2022, 07:42:05 AM

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 08, 2022, 05:39:00 AM

Yes, that's right, from the news I got, Liverpool had rejected the proposal submitted by Bayern Munich to bring Mane to the Bundesliga. But Mane himself has the desire to go and find a new club, and also most people from Mane's home country also support Mane to leave Liverpool immediately. This became one of the considerations for him, because it was Mane who heard the aspirations of his supporters.

Yes liverpool refused for the second time an offer from bayern munich. Liverpool want £42.5m for Sadio Mane. I think Liverpool really will not let go of Sadio Mane if the offer that is submitted does not match the targets they set. Even though Sadio Mane really wants to leave Liverpool, if the offer is not fulfilled, Sadio Mane will automatically stay at Liverpool for next season and it will be a loss for Liverpool in the future because they have to release Sadio Mane with free transfers.

They are not selling yet to increase the price of Mane. Since Mane already wants to leave, if he stays, it won't do much for the team. I don't think they will keep Mane in the team because they know this. Bayern Munich will transfer Mane. Liverpool already have enough players in the forward line and not all of them stay in the game for too many minutes. Actually, I think that's the main problem they need to solve.

It seems that if Lewandowski were to leave, then perhaps Bayern Munich would agree or at least approach Liverpool's fee. There's still a lot of time ahead and with that in mind about the number of players in Liverpool's attack, then I think that in the end or maybe close to the transfer window, Mane will leave eventually. I'm not sure Mane will last another season at Liverpool and because of that, there are still a lot of teams out there who could get Mane. But indeed, it will be more difficult if the target is to play in the Champions League in that way, big and strong teams are Mane's priority like Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, maybe PSG, Manchester City, Chelsea or maybe Barcelona.

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Quote from: JeWay on June 08, 2022, 07:08:37 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 08, 2022, 05:39:00 AM

Yes, that's right, from the news I got, Liverpool had rejected the proposal submitted by Bayern Munich to bring Mane to the Bundesliga. But Mane himself has the desire to go and find a new club, and also most people from Mane's home country also support Mane to leave Liverpool immediately. This became one of the considerations for him, because it was Mane who heard the aspirations of his supporters.

Yes liverpool refused for the second time an offer from bayern munich. Liverpool want £42.5m for Sadio Mane. I think Liverpool really will not let go of Sadio Mane if the offer that is submitted does not match the targets they set. Even though Sadio Mane really wants to leave Liverpool, if the offer is not fulfilled, Sadio Mane will automatically stay at Liverpool for next season and it will be a loss for Liverpool in the future because they have to release Sadio Mane with free transfers.

They are not selling yet to increase the price of Mane. Since Mane already wants to leave, if he stays, it won't do much for the team. I don't think they will keep Mane in the team because they know this. Bayern Munich will transfer Mane. Liverpool already have enough players in the forward line and not all of them stay in the game for too many minutes. Actually, I think that's the main problem they need to solve.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 08, 2022, 05:39:00 AM

Yes, that's right, from the news I got, Liverpool had rejected the proposal submitted by Bayern Munich to bring Mane to the Bundesliga. But Mane himself has the desire to go and find a new club, and also most people from Mane's home country also support Mane to leave Liverpool immediately. This became one of the considerations for him, because it was Mane who heard the aspirations of his supporters.

Yes liverpool refused for the second time an offer from bayern munich. Liverpool want £42.5m for Sadio Mane. I think Liverpool really will not let go of Sadio Mane if the offer that is submitted does not match the targets they set. Even though Sadio Mane really wants to leave Liverpool, if the offer is not fulfilled, Sadio Mane will automatically stay at Liverpool for next season and it will be a loss for Liverpool in the future because they have to release Sadio Mane with free transfers.

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Gabriel Jesus is followed by various teams these days. I have seen another rumour like even Real Madrid started to be interested in signing him. However the source wasn't that much reliable as far as I remember now. Grin

I don't think that Real Madrid need a player like Gabriel Jesus now. If they think of a replacement for Benzema then their target would be a much bigger player than Gabriel Jesus I assume. Arsenal are the serious team to sign Gabriel Jesus for now and it would be a great transfer too.

I don't think Real Madrid managements will use Gabriel Jesus to replace Benzema that helped them to achieved champion league title in this season. Benzema is among the best strikers in the whole world which many teams wish to have such striker in their team in this season. I think, Gabriel Jesus will really help Arsenal to improve better in next season, if their managements will sign in Gabriel Jesus into the team, because he has many tactics of scoring goals to embrace victory.

I think if it's true that these two clubs are Real Madrid and Arsenal are interested in signing Gabriel jesus of course I believe Jesus will choose Real Madrid because Real Madrid is a top club with an extraordinary history. And the reason that may be very reasonable is that his compatriot has also been at Real Madrid, namely Vinicius Jr., this will be a very suitable partner in my opinion maybe Real Madrid management is also considering this reason to get Gebriel Jesus.
But to replace Benzema's position I think it's very unlikely. Benzema is a world class striker it is very difficult to compete with him.

Before Real Madrid entered the equation, he was already wanting to switch to Arsenal because he likes Arteta's project. At the moment I don't know what the situation is surrounding his decision. Going to Real Madrid and not being a starter, or going to Arsenal and starting in every games. There are also reports that Real Madrid cannot complete a deal for Gabriel Jesus until fellow Brazilian forward Vinicius Jnr gets a Spanish passport as they are at the maximum amount of non-European players permitted by La Liga.

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