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Quote from: Congyang on October 21, 2021, 12:58:49 PM

this seems to be proof that when they became great players and became legends at their club in the past, it didn't mean they would be great coaches either, at least this example applies to ole now because it is very unfortunate when many great players are at MU at this time. But this is not accompanied by competent tactics from the coach.
because what I see is the tactics of MU seem monotonous, such as poor tactics and the extraordinary performance of the players is not maximized properly.

Stop blaming Ole, we all need to understand that. This is a stage that is indeed quite difficult for the loyal supporters of Manchester United to accept. However Ole will learn from previous defeats and hopefully Ole can implement a better strategy. Moreover, Mucf must be prepared against Liverpool, which is clearly the strongest club. Ole will work hard again, we give him a chance until the end of the season. The consequence for Ole are two choices, namely to stay at Manchester United by giving the trophy or being replaced.

Which trophy are you thinking about here? The issue is that at the moment I don't really see any chance for them to realistically win any of the three major trophies. What's surprising is that the squad is pretty strong in my opinion, definitely able to compete at the highest level. So what exactly is their issue? A player like Rashford needs the perfect coach for his needs and i don't think that is the case right now with Ole. Rashford can be a genius striker, but he only is at times. We'll see over the next couple of weeks whether all lost is hope for this season. First Manu needs to qualify for the final round in the CL.

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Arsenal vs Aston Villa will be a really tough and close match for both teams I think. Lately, I can't say that both sides are doing very good. Arsenal were quite good but they started having unsatisfactory results again. Arsenal are just not a credible team yet. And they never will be as long as they don't have a solid game plan and better players. Aston Villa is a tough opponent to beat. I think it might end in a draw.

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I don't see it will happen next season Manchester has had players with quality above average Now the task is in the coach, how to bring together all players to remain solid
Yesterday we saw how Manchester did it in the Champions League if this can be done in EPL I'm sure MU can be stronger

Manchester United have a strong forward and midfield lineup. But their defense is relatively weak. Moreover, strikers and midfielders have not been able to perform well for some time. But every player is talented. Manchester will be stronger if the coach can build the bond between the players properly, formation and match strategy properly. We saw great gameplay in yesterday's match. Manchester United will be unstoppable in the EPL if this trend continues.

Manchester United do not have a game plan, they have never dominated any of the games they have won this season, and their defenders are not weak, as you stated, they have one of the best defenders in the league. Their problem is structure, and if the right structure is in place, they will be able to turn around their defensive disaster. In their last 19 games, they've only kept one clean sheet.

Manchester United's defenders are weak. Maybe they are star players. They are very experienced. But they are not performing well now. Let's take a look at the statistics this season, Manchester United have played 8 matches this season, they have scored 16 goals. So far so good. But they have conceded 10 goals in 8 matches. No other team at the top of the points table has conceded so many goals. Would you call this defense strong even after conceding so many goals?

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Quote from: DU18 on October 21, 2021, 12:55:43 PM

Although difficult , but I hope if arsenal can beat Aston Villa later and not repeat mistake in the arsenal last match, because at this time arsenal really needs points to at least break into the top 4 of the standings, maybe the match against Aston Villa is relatively easier than against Leicester City later in the league, but if the Arsenal squad can find the right strategy and don't make mistakes in the match, it is certainly not impossible that Arsenal will be able to get full points in these two games later.

From any point of view, I agree Arsenal should be able to overthrow Aston Villa. But talking about mistakes is a natural thing in every game, mistakes in communication between players are not new. However, rising from adversity and pressure from the opponent is a meeting point to catch up. For Arsenal at least getting into the top 8 is also a good achievement. For the sake of facing Leicerter they will show their ferocity first to Aston Villa.

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Quote from: Congyang on October 21, 2021, 12:58:49 PM

this seems to be proof that when they became great players and became legends at their club in the past, it didn't mean they would be great coaches either, at least this example applies to ole now because it is very unfortunate when many great players are at MU at this time. But this is not accompanied by competent tactics from the coach.
because what I see is the tactics of MU seem monotonous, such as poor tactics and the extraordinary performance of the players is not maximized properly.

Stop blaming Ole, we all need to understand that. This is a stage that is indeed quite difficult for the loyal supporters of Manchester United to accept. However Ole will learn from previous defeats and hopefully Ole can implement a better strategy. Moreover, Mucf must be prepared against Liverpool, which is clearly the strongest club. Ole will work hard again, we give him a chance until the end of the season. The consequence for Ole are two choices, namely to stay at Manchester United by giving the trophy or being replaced.

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Manchester city are still the favorite though but again just like last season in the champion league, I would not be surprised if Chelsea beats them to it.

Count Liverpool in the race too. They have been spectacular so far in the PL games and with the defensive beast Van Dijk being back they have been performing very well back there. Last season they had issue but this it seems like they might also be able to lift the trophy if they perform with consistency like they are doing right now. City and Chelsea on other hand are also performing great with their dense squad. Still its a long race and we are just at the beginning and there could be lot of surprises in the race going forward.

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Quote from: Congyang on October 19, 2021, 02:00:05 PM

when the players are not sure about the coach I think everything will be over and it's just a matter of time for this to happen.
and talking about criticism of real players besides pogba there are also some players who are starting to distrust Ole now even I saw a post on social media about an article saying that ronaldo is now persuading the officials from ManUnited to make contact with zinadine zidan. Ronaldo did this in response to the club's declining performance

Ole is never been fit for club like Manchester United because this club need some very good and aggressive manager and his strategies never work for them from start he was not doing good things even after arrival of Ronaldo many peoples was feeling now they will improve, but it's not work now many players openly criticizing Ole because of his poor work and players already fed up with this all hopefully now management will bring some better and aggressive manager because right now they have some good time, and they can do some better for this season.

Ole is completely failure with losing confidence of players is massive shock for him, better he leaves and try some small club.

this seems to be proof that when they became great players and became legends at their club in the past, it didn't mean they would be great coaches either, at least this example applies to ole now because it is very unfortunate when many great players are at MU at this time. But this is not accompanied by competent tactics from the coach.
because what I see is the tactics of MU seem monotonous, such as poor tactics and the extraordinary performance of the players is not maximized properly.

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Don't forget Leicester wins over Man United and in the Europa League give them confidence. Leicester are also tough opponents for Arsenal especially this match is an away game for Arsenal, but it looks like all matches will be tough for Arsenal, many times they waste the opportunity to get full points at home this is very bad for them.

That's why Arteta must be able to evaluate and improve his team strategy when they got last week draw against Crystal Palace, this is done so that they are ready and don't repeat the same mistakes when facing hard games that rely on physicality like Aston Villa and Leicester City who rely on quick counter-attacks against teams that rely on possession, in my opinion Leicester City is not a small team like it was a few seasons ago and now they have become a big team known as giant team killers.

For now Arsenal need to get rid of Aston Villa which will start in a few days. Both are honing each other's strategies that are suitable for breaking into each goal. I don't know if it will be a tough game or if it's in line with Arsenal's expectations. Most likely it is like that, there will be many goals from Leicester City, considering they are quite disciplined and work extra to overthrow Arsenal.

Although difficult , but I hope if arsenal can beat Aston Villa later and not repeat mistake in the arsenal last match, because at this time arsenal really needs points to at least break into the top 4 of the standings, maybe the match against Aston Villa is relatively easier than against Leicester City later in the league, but if the Arsenal squad can find the right strategy and don't make mistakes in the match, it is certainly not impossible that Arsenal will be able to get full points in these two games later.

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Quote from: arallmuus on October 21, 2021, 12:44:13 PM

Yeah and this might be his last season if he doesnt get atleast the 2nd spot again. This season is completely different than last season especially with Ronaldo finally back on the team

Second spot in the league wouldn't save OGS from being fired, the only thing than can prolly save him is if his team wins a major trophy and that's it, despite their recent struggles, Manchester United is a very big club with a very rich history and they can't keep settling for second place when they have all kinds of quality they need in their team to be world-beaters, I'm very sure the United board must have made it clear to Solskjaer that it's either he wins a major trophy (either the EPL or UCL) or he leaves.

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Quote from: Minecache on October 21, 2021, 12:20:55 PM

Did Utd recently renew with Ole? I'm not sure but I gotta say that this might not be the best of ideas.

Another extension contract was sign at the end of last season. The reason why Manchester United offer that was because Manchester United managed to get the 2nd spot last season, that was still a good although most of the fans wants them to win the EPL. Given that achievement, it was logical to offer him another extension contract

Quote from: Minecache on October 21, 2021, 12:20:55 PM

Ole has been with Utd for about 3 years and hardly has he won any silverware. Even this season they are inconsistent.

Yeah and this might be his last season if he doesnt get atleast the 2nd spot again. This season is completely different than last season especially with Ronaldo finally back on the team

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Though United has won their last match, but I strongly think that Ole's end to United's career is not that far away. They have bought a goal machine this season and they have Cavani and Rashford and Bruno aside CR7. They are scoring the goals but are lacking a lot in defense. Which was clear in the Atalanta match. They scored 3 but because of bad defense, they conceded 2. This cannot be good in the long run because as some great football mind once said, "Attack wins you games but defense wins you titles."

This year, Ole & MU have reached an agreement for a contract until 2024, there is even an option for an extension until 2025. It seems, Ole will still be the coach of MU next season, regardless of the results that United will achieve this season. Ole is not too bad coach. Maybe, if Ole has good defenders, this will complete his dream team. Because United's forward players have been very good. By completing the missing puzzle pieces in a defensive position, Ole may have been able to give the EPL trophy to MU. But, if United's condition remains like this until the end of 2022/2023, replacing Ole with another coach might be a solution to improve MU.

Did Utd recently renew with Ole? I'm not sure but I gotta say that this might not be the best of ideas. there is no doubt that Ole is a good coach, but there are far better options than him. You know, Zidane and Conte are now free. Ole has been with Utd for about 3 years and hardly has he won any silverware. Even this season they are inconsistent. Even after having players like Ronaldo, Rashford, Cavani, Bruno, and Pogba. Maybe if they wanted to renew they should have renewed for one more season, no more than that.

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Don't forget Leicester wins over Man United and in the Europa League give them confidence. Leicester are also tough opponents for Arsenal especially this match is an away game for Arsenal, but it looks like all matches will be tough for Arsenal, many times they waste the opportunity to get full points at home this is very bad for them.

That's why Arteta must be able to evaluate and improve his team strategy when they got last week draw against Crystal Palace, this is done so that they are ready and don't repeat the same mistakes when facing hard games that rely on physicality like Aston Villa and Leicester City who rely on quick counter-attacks against teams that rely on possession, in my opinion Leicester City is not a small team like it was a few seasons ago and now they have become a big team known as giant team killers.

For now Arsenal need to get rid of Aston Villa which will start in a few days. Both are honing each other's strategies that are suitable for breaking into each goal. I don't know if it will be a tough game or if it's in line with Arsenal's expectations. Most likely it is like that, there will be many goals from Leicester City, considering they are quite disciplined and work extra to overthrow Arsenal.

Arsenal are now the 12th team in the points table. But they have not lost in the last 6 matches. They won against Tottenham, drawing with Brighton and Crystal Palace. Aston Villa's performance has not been good this season too. Arsenal will not lose this match. Maybe they will win, I think Arsenal will win 2-1.

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Quote from: gabbie2010 on October 21, 2021, 07:04:09 AM

Since the transfer of Grealish from Aston Villa to Man City the latter had not been too consistent and formidable, that inconsistency had put them 13th on the EPL table just like Arsenal, thus shouldn't be a threat to Arsenal who remain five games unbeaten, I believe they will continue with the record though they play a draw, both are mid table teams, the chances of Arsenal winning that match is subject to avoiding errors or costly mistakes which often resulted to conceding of goals.

Grealish had a good contribution to Aston Villa and had helped the team for several season before Manchester City finally took an interest in him. Arsenal vs Aston Villa match should be the momentum of Arsenal's revival after previously drawing 2 times. It looks like it will be very possible for Arsenal to win against Aston Villa and Arteta will have to force his players to play well in that game to win. 3 points is something that must be for Arsenal to improve its position in the standings.

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Manchester United do not have a game plan, they have never dominated any of the games they have won this season, and their defenders are not weak, as you stated, they have one of the best defenders in the league. Their problem is structure, and if the right structure is in place, they will be able to turn around their defensive disaster. In their last 19 games, they've only kept one clean sheet.

If you say their problem is structure, it would be a responsibility of Ole, not players. If Ole is given 3 years in Old Trafford, with lot of patience and support, and he can not build up a good structure for Manchester United, it is his failure.
How long will Manchester United put their belief in Ole, I don't know. Three years now and will it be up to 5 years? 5 years is about one-third of player career. Like Pogba, time passes very fast and now he is coming to his thirty. Pogba, De Gea are players from years ago and their best time won't last too much more. 4 more years, they can, but long, I don't know.

Yes, you are correct; when I said structure, I was referring to appointing the best man for the position; Ole has been given enough time to rebuild the club with quality players. If he's still in charge at the end of the season, I'll be surprised. Lampard had a better winning ratio than Ole before he was sacked so I'm wondering what's still keeping Ole and Arteta

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Quote from: Strongkored on October 21, 2021, 03:40:17 AM

Don't forget Leicester wins over Man United and in the Europa League give them confidence. Leicester are also tough opponents for Arsenal especially this match is an away game for Arsenal, but it looks like all matches will be tough for Arsenal, many times they waste the opportunity to get full points at home this is very bad for them.

That's why Arteta must be able to evaluate and improve his team strategy when they got last week draw against Crystal Palace, this is done so that they are ready and don't repeat the same mistakes when facing hard games that rely on physicality like Aston Villa and Leicester City who rely on quick counter-attacks against teams that rely on possession, in my opinion Leicester City is not a small team like it was a few seasons ago and now they have become a big team known as giant team killers.

For now Arsenal need to get rid of Aston Villa which will start in a few days. Both are honing each other's strategies that are suitable for breaking into each goal. I don't know if it will be a tough game or if it's in line with Arsenal's expectations. Most likely it is like that, there will be many goals from Leicester City, considering they are quite disciplined and work extra to overthrow Arsenal.

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Atlanta did their best in today's match. Yes the first half was awesome to see them score 2 goals. Rishford really missed his chances in the first half. He is so active but needs to tune him a lot. However, he did add a goal to the win. Maguire did really used his space very well scoring a goal. He was to the point. Need to really appriciate him. Then yes, the jump and head route from Ronaldo, was awesome to watch. Last minute goal lead Man Utd Win today.

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Quote from: Apes on October 21, 2021, 02:27:25 AM

too early to say donny is over prices or even said to be one of the worst purchases of man united, he is still young still needs to adapt to this league,
if man united has a good performance and the team on lead position i'm sure the manager will give him chance to add more flight hours in the field.
In my view, donny and other players who rarely played are part of ole the depth of the squad strategy, and Man United is one of the teams that has the best core and reserve players in Europe.

Well, if Donny is a competent player and needs to be honed then the role of the coach here cannot see the potential that exists in Donny. Although Donny has the qualities to strengthen the United squad, if in the end he is only kept on the bench, it means that even a sharp knife if left to rust and not used for cutting will become dull.

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Though United has won their last match, but I strongly think that Ole's end to United's career is not that far away. They have bought a goal machine this season and they have Cavani and Rashford and Bruno aside CR7. They are scoring the goals but are lacking a lot in defense. Which was clear in the Atalanta match. They scored 3 but because of bad defense, they conceded 2. This cannot be good in the long run because as some great football mind once said, "Attack wins you games but defense wins you titles."

The line of defense in Manchester United very badly, and no matter how well the attack plays, if there is no good defense, then the team will have big problems. An example is the recent situation with Juventus, when they conceded a lot of goals, their affairs were worse than ever. But as soon as Alegre to improve matters in defense, everything immediately changed. Manchester should do something like that, and the sooner it is done, the sooner things will get better. Whether it is with or without Solskjaer does not matter, it just needs to be done.

Yes right the defense of Manchester United is a serious problem for them and they are conceding too much goals. Even if they score some goals because of their bad defense they are lagging behind in the game. Yes they won the last match but they must look in to this and fix this as soon as possible.

This is to be expected. Despite having poor defense, Manchester United is extremely lucky because Ronaldo saves them most of the time. They made some tactical errors as well as poor selections. Does having too many star players in a team always result in disaster? Most of these players are excellent, but they don't get enough playing time to become accustomed to the pitch. Regardless of the result, the fact remains.

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Quote from: Altryist on October 21, 2021, 08:06:06 AM

Quote from: minairia3 on October 21, 2021, 07:27:21 AM

Though United has won their last match, but I strongly think that Ole's end to United's career is not that far away. They have bought a goal machine this season and they have Cavani and Rashford and Bruno aside CR7. They are scoring the goals but are lacking a lot in defense. Which was clear in the Atalanta match. They scored 3 but because of bad defense, they conceded 2. This cannot be good in the long run because as some great football mind once said, "Attack wins you games but defense wins you titles."

The line of defense in Manchester United very badly, and no matter how well the attack plays, if there is no good defense, then the team will have big problems. An example is the recent situation with Juventus, when they conceded a lot of goals, their affairs were worse than ever. But as soon as Alegre to improve matters in defense, everything immediately changed. Manchester should do something like that, and the sooner it is done, the sooner things will get better. Whether it is with or without Solskjaer does not matter, it just needs to be done.

Yes right the defense of Manchester United is a serious problem for them and they are conceding too much goals. Even if they score some goals because of their bad defense they are lagging behind in the game. Yes they won the last match but they must look in to this and fix this as soon as possible.

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