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Quote from: KingsDen on October 19, 2021, 02:36:42 PM

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Quote from: masulum on October 19, 2021, 10:27:13 AM

Liverpool this season is not like last season, they are currently showing good performances both in the EPL and in the UCL. If we talk motivation, then Liverpool's motivation and confidence is probably better than Manchester United's. From here, motivation alone is not enough, but if Ole manages to provide a good strategy, maybe this will be a different result. The question is, can Ole outperform Klopp's strategy in this match? Is Ronaldo the only hope for Manchester United to win?

Despite the poor performance of the manchester united squad in the last few matches, but actually Ole has a better record than klopp. Below are the statistics between the two coaches:

Ole Gunnar Solskjr
Match: 162
Win : 89
Draw : 36
Lose : 37
Win Ratio : 54.9%

JURGEN KLOPP
Match: 162
Win : 88
Draw : 44
Lose : 30
Win Ratio : 54.4%

Source : The Sun

But looking at the team condition right now, of course I believe that Liverpool will beat Manchester United in the match later

We should not only rely on Statistics like this to base out judgement.
I want to see their current start,
Maybe how much each invested in the market.
Check the squad, apart from Manchester City, no England team has better squad than Manchester United, but there is nothing to show for it.

My problem with Ole is not that he losses matches or draws matches. Every match is win, draw or lose. My concern are;
1. Manchester United has no tactics
2. If Liverpool is playing Watford, I can comfortably predict that Liverpool will win Watford and it will happen. Right now, if Manchester United is playing Watford, I cannot predict that Manchester United will win.
You can't tell the matches Manchester United can win or draw or loss.

You lament a whole lot about Manchester United,you take them to heart so deeply.
Hopefully ole Gunner Solskjaer becomes a goner soon, so you could stop lamenting lmao.
Manchester United have a great squad anyways,it's high time they make good use of the quality players around.

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I believe that Arsenal has been great recently. I mean obviously not "great" but a lot better compared to how they started and I believe that they are going to be doing even better in the future as well. For the past 5 days they have not lost any games and had 3 wins and 2 draws and that is a very important part of the situation as well.

Certainly not winning against Crystal Palace doesn't look like a good situation and I believe that they should be beating much more teams and they should be doing better compared to how they started, but at the same time instead of looking at pre-season situation look at the early days where they were at the relegation level, it should be awesome that they are doing better at least.

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Quote from: Congyang on October 19, 2021, 02:00:05 PM

when the players are not sure about the coach I think everything will be over and it's just a matter of time for this to happen.
and talking about criticism of real players besides pogba there are also some players who are starting to distrust Ole now even I saw a post on social media about an article saying that ronaldo is now persuading the officials from ManUnited to make contact with zinadine zidan. Ronaldo did this in response to the club's declining performance

Ole is never been fit for club like Manchester United because this club need some very good and aggressive manager and his strategies never work for them from start he was not doing good things even after arrival of Ronaldo many peoples was feeling now they will improve, but it's not work now many players openly criticizing Ole because of his poor work and players already fed up with this all hopefully now management will bring some better and aggressive manager because right now they have some good time, and they can do some better for this season.

Ole is completely failure with losing confidence of players is massive shock for him, better he leaves and try some small club.

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Quote from: masulum on October 19, 2021, 10:27:13 AM

Liverpool this season is not like last season, they are currently showing good performances both in the EPL and in the UCL. If we talk motivation, then Liverpool's motivation and confidence is probably better than Manchester United's. From here, motivation alone is not enough, but if Ole manages to provide a good strategy, maybe this will be a different result. The question is, can Ole outperform Klopp's strategy in this match? Is Ronaldo the only hope for Manchester United to win?

Despite the poor performance of the manchester united squad in the last few matches, but actually Ole has a better record than klopp. Below are the statistics between the two coaches:

Ole Gunnar Solskjr
Match: 162
Win : 89
Draw : 36
Lose : 37
Win Ratio : 54.9%

JURGEN KLOPP
Match: 162
Win : 88
Draw : 44
Lose : 30
Win Ratio : 54.4%

Source : The Sun

But looking at the team condition right now, of course I believe that Liverpool will beat Manchester United in the match later

We should not only rely on Statistics like this to base out judgement.
I want to see their current start,
Maybe how much each invested in the market.
Check the squad, apart from Manchester City, no England team has better squad than Manchester United, but there is nothing to show for it.

My problem with Ole is not that he losses matches or draws matches. Every match is win, draw or lose. My concern are;
1. Manchester United has no tactics
2. If Liverpool is playing Watford, I can comfortably predict that Liverpool will win Watford and it will happen. Right now, if Manchester United is playing Watford, I cannot predict that Manchester United will win.
You can't tell the matches Manchester United can win or draw or loss.

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Quote from: coderben on October 19, 2021, 01:31:09 PM

Arsenal started having poor results again lately. After a nice win streak, firstly they got a draw against Brighton. And they performed really poorly. Crystal Palace was not a tough opponent for Arsenal as they were in a much worse condition than Arsenal. This was a big opportunity for Arsenal to continue from where they left. However, they weren't good enough. And Crystal Palace benefited from their chances really nicely. Arsenal barely saved one point thanks to Lacazette's last minute goal. Arsenal are definitely unhappy about this 2-2 draw. I wouldn't be surprised if Arsenal end this season at one of the middle positions in the table.

I agree Arsenal should take advantage of this opportunity to survive and continue the next game. Aston Villa must be desperately facing Arsenal's movement this time, although they are not comparable opponents but do not rule out the possibility that Aston Villa will not let Arsenal get away with it either. Considering that Aston Villa previous match continued to lose, it would make them fight even harder. At least they can hold Arsenal.

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Quote from: tyz on October 19, 2021, 05:20:53 AM

Pogba has now also criticized Solskjaer publicly and not only as before, between the lines. Together with the poor performance of the team in recent games, this testifies an increasingly poor standing of the coach in the team. It is only a matter of time until Solskjaer gets fired. I think ManU is hesitating to fire him at the moment because there is no good alternative. But as soon as this will be available, Solskjaer will be history in Manchester.

when the players are not sure about the coach I think everything will be over and it's just a matter of time for this to happen.
and talking about criticism of real players besides pogba there are also some players who are starting to distrust Ole now even I saw a post on social media about an article saying that ronaldo is now persuading the officials from ManUnited to make contact with zinadine zidan. Ronaldo did this in response to the club's declining performance

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Quote from: BALIK on October 19, 2021, 11:57:44 AM

Salah has been the most consistent player for Liverpool since he joined them. Mane also played well after he joined, but now he seems kind of off-form and so is Firmino. Liverpool has always been a team play-oriented club but players like Mane and Firmino need to get back on the form if they want to challenge Chelsea for the title this season. I hope they will get back on form and Salah will continue doing what he does best scoring goals and assisting his mates.

I love Moh Salah game, he is talented and deserves to lead Liverpool to continue to be in first place. It is possible for Liverpool, because seeing this tight competition shows how reliable professional players can show a beautiful game to watch. Get ready for Atletico Madrid I'm not leaving this game tomorrow night. The formation of both is enough to close all the gaps in every front and back line and this will probably be a fierce match.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on October 19, 2021, 01:01:17 PM

Salah become the only forward most consistent player first time arrived at Anfield stadium than Mane and Firmino, keep consistent every year make many goal and now he reach 7 goal with eight match so far, I think his chance to be top scorer with large if keep going on and consistent with his performance. Have label with one season player for Salah last few year but it was wrong and Salah keep touch with his good performance every match and now become top scorer for Liverpool with seven goals.

Salah performance at Liverpool certainly doesn't doubt it anymore, and among several other Liverpool players, Salah is a player who has been able to maintain his consistency since being recruited by Liverpool from Rome in 2017, since joining Liverpool, Salah has become a key player in each of liverpool matches and Even Salah has big in helping Liverpool win four trophies including the Premier League title and Champions League so far.
Although I am not a liverpool fans, but i really want to see Salah this year can win the ballon d'or

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Arsenal started having poor results again lately. After a nice win streak, firstly they got a draw against Brighton. And they performed really poorly. Crystal Palace was not a tough opponent for Arsenal as they were in a much worse condition than Arsenal. This was a big opportunity for Arsenal to continue from where they left. However, they weren't good enough. And Crystal Palace benefited from their chances really nicely. Arsenal barely saved one point thanks to Lacazette's last minute goal. Arsenal are definitely unhappy about this 2-2 draw. I wouldn't be surprised if Arsenal end this season at one of the middle positions in the table.

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Quote from: BALIK on October 19, 2021, 11:57:44 AM

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Quote from: masulum on October 19, 2021, 10:27:13 AM

Liverpool this season is not like last season, they are currently showing good performances both in the EPL and in the UCL. If we talk motivation, then Liverpool's motivation and confidence is probably better than Manchester United's. From here, motivation alone is not enough, but if Ole manages to provide a good strategy, maybe this will be a different result. The question is, can Ole outperform Klopp's strategy in this match? Is Ronaldo the only hope for Manchester United to win?

In the last season, Liverpool played too well in first half even after the injury of Van Dijk. They only fell behind in the second half when more injuries ocurred and they can not fix it. With limited players, Liverpool got exhaused at the second half but they came back lately but enough to finish in top 4.
This season, they are more luckily and perhaps their medical team work better. We so far don't see serious injuries in Liverpool. And Salah gets his best performance again. Mo Salah is one of best players of Liverpool since the day he joined but this season, he only concentrates to play and does not have conflicts with Mane.
Ole makes us surprised in big matches but he makes us more surprised in matches with small clubs where he can not help Manchester United to win. I don't know good results with big clubs in past 2 seasons are from Ole tactic or it is just from player performance.

Salah has been the most consistent player for Liverpool since he joined them. Mane also played well after he joined, but now he seems kind of off-form and so is Firmino. Liverpool has always been a team play-oriented club but players like Mane and Firmino need to get back on the form if they want to challenge Chelsea for the title this season. I hope they will get back on form and Salah will continue doing what he does best scoring goals and assisting his mates.

Salah become the only forward most consistent player first time arrived at Anfield stadium than Mane and Firmino, keep consistent every year make many goal and now he reach 7 goal with eight match so far, I think his chance to be top scorer with large if keep going on and consistent with his performance. Have label with one season player for Salah last few year but it was wrong and Salah keep touch with his good performance every match and now become top scorer for Liverpool with seven goals.

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Quote from: hd49728 on October 19, 2021, 10:43:48 AM

Quote from: masulum on October 19, 2021, 10:27:13 AM

Liverpool this season is not like last season, they are currently showing good performances both in the EPL and in the UCL. If we talk motivation, then Liverpool's motivation and confidence is probably better than Manchester United's. From here, motivation alone is not enough, but if Ole manages to provide a good strategy, maybe this will be a different result. The question is, can Ole outperform Klopp's strategy in this match? Is Ronaldo the only hope for Manchester United to win?

In the last season, Liverpool played too well in first half even after the injury of Van Dijk. They only fell behind in the second half when more injuries ocurred and they can not fix it. With limited players, Liverpool got exhaused at the second half but they came back lately but enough to finish in top 4.
This season, they are more luckily and perhaps their medical team work better. We so far don't see serious injuries in Liverpool. And Salah gets his best performance again. Mo Salah is one of best players of Liverpool since the day he joined but this season, he only concentrates to play and does not have conflicts with Mane.
Ole makes us surprised in big matches but he makes us more surprised in matches with small clubs where he can not help Manchester United to win. I don't know good results with big clubs in past 2 seasons are from Ole tactic or it is just from player performance.

Salah has been the most consistent player for Liverpool since he joined them. Mane also played well after he joined, but now he seems kind of off-form and so is Firmino. Liverpool has always been a team play-oriented club but players like Mane and Firmino need to get back on the form if they want to challenge Chelsea for the title this season. I hope they will get back on form and Salah will continue doing what he does best scoring goals and assisting his mates.

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Quote from: Congyang on October 18, 2021, 02:07:18 PM

it's like that, at least they should be able to secure a position and not be relegated at the end of the season.
this is absolute price for newcastle to keep growing.
because even if they are a very rich team I don't believe the top players will join newcastle when they are in the second tier.
I think they really need to make changes, especially in the second half of the season because when you look at their current performance, they are far from consistent, even from the last 5 matches they only drew 2 and lost 3 times.

Then the most painful thing was later when Newcastle had to be bullied against Chelsea. Very very have no chance of getting in, instead they will be eliminated from this league season. It's difficult to play against Chelsea's class with Newcastle formation now. They need equal players to match Chelsea. I think later against Chelsea already know who will be the winner.

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Here we are all talking about who will take to train Newcastle but we ourselves are not looking at the standings now at such a pace Newcastle will need to be recruited into the coaches of Big Sem for this season Wink

It is already clear who will fight for the championship and who for the top4 yes mu?

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Quote from: masulum on October 19, 2021, 06:54:32 AM

I won't bet on the MU match in a few games until I see the consistency of their game, the inconsistent MU matches make the match very difficult to predict. In UCL I lost because of Ronaldo's last minute goal, and in the match vs Leicester I made 2 bets, draw and Manchester United won, in fact lost in both my predictions.

vs Atalanta & Liverpool, I would not choose to bet on this match 😂

It made doubts for us when the bet at that time was that United were championed to beat Leicester. Well, we both lost the bet for MU. So I agree for a while not doing the same thing until United are really well organized as they really are on the pitch. Besides that, there are still bets that we must pay attention to Chelsea and Liverpool in anticipation of good betting choices.

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Quote from: poldanmig on October 19, 2021, 11:06:37 AM

Despite the poor performance of the manchester united squad in the last few matches, but actually Ole has a better record than klopp. Below are the statistics between the two coaches:

Ole Gunnar Solskjr
Match: 162
Win : 89
Draw : 36
Lose : 37
Win Ratio : 54.9%

JURGEN KLOPP
Match: 162
Win : 88
Draw : 44
Lose : 30
Win Ratio : 54.4%

Source : The Sun

But looking at the team condition right now, of course I believe that Liverpool will beat Manchester United in the match later

I really don't like comparisons like these. Solskjaer has all the money in the world to sign whoever he wants and already had a good squad at the moment when he took over at United. Klopp's first Liverpool lineup was Mignolet - Clyne, Skrtel, Sakho, Moreno - Lucas, Can, Lallana, Coutinho, Milner - Origi.

In the meantime Klopp and Liverpool are among the clubs with smallest net spend in the league. So, Klopp is actually doing wonders while Solskjaer is doing quite an average job.

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Quote from: masulum on October 19, 2021, 10:27:13 AM

Liverpool this season is not like last season, they are currently showing good performances both in the EPL and in the UCL. If we talk motivation, then Liverpool's motivation and confidence is probably better than Manchester United's. From here, motivation alone is not enough, but if Ole manages to provide a good strategy, maybe this will be a different result. The question is, can Ole outperform Klopp's strategy in this match? Is Ronaldo the only hope for Manchester United to win?

Despite the poor performance of the manchester united squad in the last few matches, but actually Ole has a better record than klopp. Below are the statistics between the two coaches:

Ole Gunnar Solskjr
Match: 162
Win : 89
Draw : 36
Lose : 37
Win Ratio : 54.9%

JURGEN KLOPP
Match: 162
Win : 88
Draw : 44
Lose : 30
Win Ratio : 54.4%

Source : The Sun

But looking at the team condition right now, of course I believe that Liverpool will beat Manchester United in the match later

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Quote from: masulum on October 19, 2021, 10:27:13 AM

Liverpool this season is not like last season, they are currently showing good performances both in the EPL and in the UCL. If we talk motivation, then Liverpool's motivation and confidence is probably better than Manchester United's. From here, motivation alone is not enough, but if Ole manages to provide a good strategy, maybe this will be a different result. The question is, can Ole outperform Klopp's strategy in this match? Is Ronaldo the only hope for Manchester United to win?

In the last season, Liverpool played too well in first half even after the injury of Van Dijk. They only fell behind in the second half when more injuries ocurred and they can not fix it. With limited players, Liverpool got exhaused at the second half but they came back lately but enough to finish in top 4.

This season, they are more luckily and perhaps their medical team work better. We so far don't see serious injuries in Liverpool. And Salah gets his best performance again. Mo Salah is one of best players of Liverpool since the day he joined but this season, he only concentrates to play and does not have conflicts with Mane.

Ole makes us surprised in big matches but he makes us more surprised in matches with small clubs where he can not help Manchester United to win. I don't know good results with big clubs in past 2 seasons are from Ole tactic or it is just from player performance.

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Quote from: masulum on October 19, 2021, 10:27:13 AM

Liverpool this season is not like last season, they are currently showing good performances both in the EPL and in the UCL. If we talk motivation, then Liverpool's motivation and confidence is probably better than Manchester United's. From here, motivation alone is not enough, but if Ole manages to provide a good strategy, maybe this will be a different result. The question is, can Ole outperform Klopp's strategy in this match? Is Ronaldo the only hope for Manchester United to win?

Without a doubt, they are far more better than Liverpool right now. United have been doing mistakes and on other hand we have Liverpool who are scoring goals and aren't making any mistakes. I think comparatively Liverpool are on another level. Although I still wouldn't say anything for sure about their upcoming match as United tends to play some fine performance when they are up against hard teams (not sure what comes into them). Last season, they were like this, dropping points against weaker teams and winning against the stronger one.

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Quote from: rozak on October 19, 2021, 07:32:55 AM

Manchester United's last two games in the league have been pretty bad. at home to MU must share points with Everton 1-1. and had to lose to Leicester 4-2. this looks bad for MU.
but from the defeat, I think it can be used as a strong motivation to win at home against Liverpool.
In terms of the standings, I know Liverpool is better at collecting points. but I think Manchester United will show a comeback in this game. I think betting on Manchester United win doesn't hurt, there will only be a few goals, I think 1 goal for Manchester United.

Liverpool this season is not like last season, they are currently showing good performances both in the EPL and in the UCL. If we talk motivation, then Liverpool's motivation and confidence is probably better than Manchester United's. From here, motivation alone is not enough, but if Ole manages to provide a good strategy, maybe this will be a different result. The question is, can Ole outperform Klopp's strategy in this match? Is Ronaldo the only hope for Manchester United to win?

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I saw this Meme of Ole and Manchester United rival fans.
How can Manchester United fans be demanding for Ole's sack and Rival club fans be protecting him.
That reminds me exactly what I was doing with Frank Lampard. Deep down in me, I knew Lampard was under performing, but I would always defend him and be asking for more time for him to blend.
Ole actually has been given much time, and to me would have been given more time if Manchester United had a amature players. But unfortunately for him, Manchester United now has world class players. I don't know what actually is the reason again for under performance.

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