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newbie
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What you provided is a guide on running a dota dedicated server. It has nothing to do with the question I have asked. What I asked is how would you connect your Xenio system with this? This system have no use if you can't make the blockchain register that you actually run that server from X time to Y time and give you a reward based on that. Since you are connecting a server which has nothing to do with the blockchain itself, anyone can just spoof hosting a game server and earn your system's coin for free without doing anything for the community/system at all.

I am asking bcz your project is interesting ,i can be a potential investor. like i did in enjin. Smiley

Hi tanvir,

I'm the lead developer for the blockchain,
i do especially like your question because it proves that you have technical thinking, but we will not run the servers ourselves because its impossible to have the source codes or the rights or the man power (if we had the codes/rights) to do so, unless the game is opensource and someone implements the blockchain for it,  the game developers will have to embed the blockchain in their code, we will provide easy solutions for them and guides to do so, the blockchain in the part that its already coded holds connection times and some details for the peers and some of those details which are not personal (such as name) will be cross referenced with connections to the servers on the super block time....


feel free to ask anything but be patient for my reply time please Smiley


I thought you had already set up a system where already made games can be played. Looks like the wallet screenshots with DOTA and all are just for the hype but fake stuffs. Seems like there is another company doing the same as you but they are promising something much more than what xenio has to offer. There are already AAA rated games being built on it. Would you care to give me a comparison between xenion and oren https://orenplatform.com/documents/whitepaper.pdf

You can't compare what is not comparable, Oren released an ERC20 token for their presale, they are on testnet, Xenio will deliver the blockchain and a functional system. It is true that Oren is on testnet, however, we have advisors who are working in order to implement Xenio to platforms like xbox and playstation. Regarding the AAA games anyone can add them or any other game as long as the source code is available and that he knows how to implement a smart contract into a game.
It is not like we are going to controle the blockchain, anyone can host a game on his server, and give access to any player, depending his preferences.
You can consider Xenio as a marriage between ethereum and dash, the servers who will host games will act like masternodes and get rewarded for their ressources.

Regarding Oren, i checked the white paper, Xenio is above Oren in term of feasability, i don't want to go in criticising other projects, it is not the aim of this thread, however based on their features about price drop protection, i don't see the point. Regarding AAA games, we can add a lot of games as it is decentralized and open, and i would like to see the testnet, they say it is ready but there is no link yet.

Anyway, i see that you are new, welcome to the blockchain world.



Ok, moving away from the "technical" questions and coming to the actual questions from an investor's point of view. Having a triple-A rated game on a platform does actually creates demand for that system's currency. But, they have declared not just 1 but 3 triple-A rated games along with other multiple platform games are already being built exclusively to their platform. I wanna know if xenio have something like that going on as well. Because, ultimately no matter how much great one system is from the other or how much hunky funky functions a system has to offer becomes totally meaningless if the ultimate thing why its being built is not there. And yes that is the games themselves. Their claims to 3 AAA rated games seemed fishy to me so I researched a little and found Ubisoft would be backing them in the game development phase. I didn't believe that at all but later found out their member was ex Ubisoft employee, so that makes sense.

No, I am not demonizing either of the system, as an investor's point of view I have to know if the coins/tokens will have future demand for me to invest, and in that sense, I am observing they are light years ahead. I invested a shit tones in Nvo, I like the team and want to do more for them. This is why I cared to make an account on btctalk and ask these questions, hope you don't take it the wrong way.
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EDIT: Someone47 removed his post, he apologied, missunderstanding happens, i am still happy to reply to the questions.



Thanks a lot for posting picture of Ton and Yani, the things is that none of them is envolved in the Xenio team, and thanks for pumping the thread.

However, if you continue with empty accusations like that i could down rate you.

Regarding NVO, the work is in progress, everything is going well, the investors have confidence in the NVO team, do not forget that 90% of the crowdsale funds are still held by the escrows, so we haven't scamed anyone, we are just working on it. Regarding the github repositories, i said that i won't publish it unless it is patented in order to preserve the technology and the advantage of NVO. I will ask the escrows to confirm that90% of the funds are still held.
Scaming people means taking money for a fake project, i advise you take care about the way you are talking or i will down rate you, do not insult my projects.

you should have searched a little more, check this one :



Taken during the crowdsale of NVO, it is in the official thread of NVO, and we are still in the same place, still working.

You know, i love trolls, but just stay polite and you will be welcome here, continue your investigation on the project, try to find questions related to the development it would be great, i would be happy to reply. however, stay on topic, it is Xenio.
hero member
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What you provided is a guide on running a dota dedicated server. It has nothing to do with the question I have asked. What I asked is how would you connect your Xenio system with this? This system have no use if you can't make the blockchain register that you actually run that server from X time to Y time and give you a reward based on that. Since you are connecting a server which has nothing to do with the blockchain itself, anyone can just spoof hosting a game server and earn your system's coin for free without doing anything for the community/system at all.

I am asking bcz your project is interesting ,i can be a potential investor. like i did in enjin. Smiley

Hi tanvir,

I'm the lead developer for the blockchain,
i do especially like your question because it proves that you have technical thinking, but we will not run the servers ourselves because its impossible to have the source codes or the rights or the man power (if we had the codes/rights) to do so, unless the game is opensource and someone implements the blockchain for it,  the game developers will have to embed the blockchain in their code, we will provide easy solutions for them and guides to do so, the blockchain in the part that its already coded holds connection times and some details for the peers and some of those details which are not personal (such as name) will be cross referenced with connections to the servers on the super block time....


feel free to ask anything but be patient for my reply time please Smiley


I thought you had already set up a system where already made games can be played. Looks like the wallet screenshots with DOTA and all are just for the hype but fake stuffs. Seems like there is another company doing the same as you but they are promising something much more than what xenio has to offer. There are already AAA rated games being built on it. Would you care to give me a comparison between xenion and oren https://orenplatform.com/documents/whitepaper.pdf

You can't compare what is not comparable, Oren released an ERC20 token for their presale, they are on testnet, Xenio will deliver the blockchain and a functional system. It is true that Oren is on testnet, however, we have advisors who are working in order to implement Xenio to platforms like xbox and playstation. Regarding the AAA games anyone can add them or any other game as long as the source code is available and that he knows how to implement a smart contract into a game.
It is not like we are going to controle the blockchain, anyone can host a game on his server, and give access to any player, depending his preferences.
You can consider Xenio as a marriage between ethereum and dash, the servers who will host games will act like masternodes and get rewarded for their ressources.

Regarding Oren, i checked the white paper, Xenio is above Oren in term of feasability, i don't want to go in criticising other projects, it is not the aim of this thread, however based on their features about price drop protection, i don't see the point. Regarding AAA games, we can add a lot of games as it is decentralized and open, and i would like to see the testnet, they say it is ready but there is no link yet.

Anyway, i see that you are new, welcome to the blockchain world.
newbie
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What you provided is a guide on running a dota dedicated server. It has nothing to do with the question I have asked. What I asked is how would you connect your Xenio system with this? This system have no use if you can't make the blockchain register that you actually run that server from X time to Y time and give you a reward based on that. Since you are connecting a server which has nothing to do with the blockchain itself, anyone can just spoof hosting a game server and earn your system's coin for free without doing anything for the community/system at all.

I am asking bcz your project is interesting ,i can be a potential investor. like i did in enjin. Smiley

Hi tanvir,

I'm the lead developer for the blockchain,
i do especially like your question because it proves that you have technical thinking, but we will not run the servers ourselves because its impossible to have the source codes or the rights or the man power (if we had the codes/rights) to do so, unless the game is opensource and someone implements the blockchain for it,  the game developers will have to embed the blockchain in their code, we will provide easy solutions for them and guides to do so, the blockchain in the part that its already coded holds connection times and some details for the peers and some of those details which are not personal (such as name) will be cross referenced with connections to the servers on the super block time....


feel free to ask anything but be patient for my reply time please Smiley


I thought you had already set up a system where already made games can be played. Looks like the wallet screenshots with DOTA and all are just for the hype but fake stuffs. Seems like there is another company doing the same as you but they are promising something much more than what xenio has to offer. There are already AAA rated games being built on it. Would you care to give me a comparison between xenion and oren https://orenplatform.com/documents/whitepaper.pdf
newbie
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What you provided is a guide on running a dota dedicated server. It has nothing to do with the question I have asked. What I asked is how would you connect your Xenio system with this? This system have no use if you can't make the blockchain register that you actually run that server from X time to Y time and give you a reward based on that. Since you are connecting a server which has nothing to do with the blockchain itself, anyone can just spoof hosting a game server and earn your system's coin for free without doing anything for the community/system at all.

I am asking bcz your project is interesting ,i can be a potential investor. like i did in enjin. Smiley

Hi tanvir,

I'm the lead developer for the blockchain,
i do especially like your question because it proves that you have technical thinking, but we will not run the servers ourselves because its impossible to have the source codes or the rights or the man power (if we had the codes/rights) to do so, unless the game is opensource and someone implements the blockchain for it,  the game developers will have to embed the blockchain in their code, we will provide easy solutions for them and guides to do so, the blockchain in the part that its already coded holds connection times and some details for the peers and some of those details which are not personal (such as name) will be cross referenced with connections to the servers on the super block time....


feel free to ask anything but be patient for my reply time please Smiley
newbie
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Very Interesting idea, i am going to keep an eye on this project.
how would you connect DOTA2 server with your node? As far as I know Valve didn't make it open source. So, how are you going to modify the server files to work with your platform?

You may be interested in checking one of the guides here
You can launch it on LAN and even open it.


What you provided is a guide on running a dota dedicated server. It has nothing to do with the question I have asked. What I asked is how would you connect your Xenio system with this? This system have no use if you can't make the blockchain register that you actually run that server from X time to Y time and give you a reward based on that. Since you are connecting a server which has nothing to do with the blockchain itself, anyone can just spoof hosting a game server and earn your system's coin for free without doing anything for the community/system at all.

I am asking bcz your project is interesting ,i can be a potential investor. like i did in enjin. Smiley
hero member
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Very Interesting idea, i am going to keep an eye on this project.
how would you connect DOTA2 server with your node? As far as I know Valve didn't make it open source. So, how are you going to modify the server files to work with your platform?

You may be interested in checking one of the guides here
You can launch it on LAN and even open it.



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Crypto Escrow Team (CET): https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/escrowing-on-demand-1938190.
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Thank you mitchell.
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Verified awesomeness ✔
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newbie
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Very Interesting idea, i am going to keep an eye on this project.
how would you connect DOTA2 server with your node? As far as I know Valve didn't make it open source. So, how are you going to modify the server files to work with your platform?
hero member
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what if this coin doesn't go up?



What do you mean ?




Very Interesting idea, i am going to keep an eye on this project.

Thanks




Is this only Proof of Stake? I am trying to confirm if this will be GPU mineable, or is running game servers the only way to obtain Xenio?

There are two incetive models, one for the users/gamers who connects to the network (POS) and one for the server operators (running a server) which is PoN, it is not "mining" like POW coins

Bummer Sad Still love the idea!

Here is a video, it is still a draft, to help understand the concepts of Xenio

https://youtu.be/2PiTw2o_kKE
newbie
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what if this coin doesn't go up?

hero member
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Very Interesting idea, i am going to keep an eye on this project.
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Is this only Proof of Stake? I am trying to confirm if this will be GPU mineable, or is running game servers the only way to obtain Xenio?

There are two incetive models, one for the users/gamers who connects to the network (POS) and one for the server operators (running a server) which is PoN, it is not "mining" like POW coins

Bummer Sad Still love the idea!
hero member
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Is this only Proof of Stake? I am trying to confirm if this will be GPU mineable, or is running game servers the only way to obtain Xenio?

There are two incetive models, one for the users/gamers who connects to the network (POS) and one for the server operators (running a server) which is PoN, it is not "mining" like POW coins
full member
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Is this only Proof of Stake? I am trying to confirm if this will be GPU mineable, or is running game servers the only way to obtain Xenio?
hero member
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Wow. it's a good project and I will consider to join this project when I can see the detailed plans for this coin.
Then I can support this project as my preferred subject.

@Nemgun is involved in the NVO Project as well. They get quite some heat on the SAFE Network forum. Nemgun (Imed Boudali) actually got banned for making posts like this one:

https://safenetforum.org/t/nvo-decentralized-exchange-crowdsale/13608/969

So they came to the SAFE community, took millions with their NVO project and within a few weeks they claimed that it couldn't be build on SAFE. Bye bye millions.

Here's the NVO website with Imed Boudali as part of the team and as a founder:

https://nvo.io

Notice how Imed claims in this topic below that he was just a volunteer and didn't got paid for the work he did:

https://safenetforum.org/t/nvo-decentralized-exchange-crowdsale/13608/359

Turned out he was a co-founder of the NVO project so he now has millions to share with the others.

So feel free to invest in this project but make sure to do some good research. In my opinion Nemgun (Imed Boudali) isn't qualified to say the least  Cheesy. One might actually wonder why he raised millions with NVO in May 2017 (while lying about his role in the project) only to do another ICO for another project a few months later. NVO hasn't delivered anything yet, not even a proof-of-concept.


If SAFE focused on SAFE this wouldn't be raised.
Instead of focussing on a working product they attack someone whom realised SAFE potentially cant produce and has worked out their own solution. Essentially in what looks like a 6 month time frame....SAFE is multiple years and still counting?

Zeeman - what matters are results so your opinion which is clearly biased on Nemguns skills  is not relevant to anyone but you and in all possibility not factual.

I wish NVO and Xenio the best of luck going forward.






Thanks a lot for your support, we will soon open the source of the project, it will calm a lot of people.





Please specify what makes you better\different then other gaming-related altcoins. There are many others.

The project's objective is to compete with Steam, they used to accept Bitcoin payments but due to KYC issues, they removed it.
As an Cryptocurrency community member i found that really hypocrite in the way where they used Bitcoin without actually using its technology. In order to add a game on Steam you need their support, authorisation, revenue sharing ... just in order to be accepted as they have a huge community of gamers they can require what ever they want.
While in Xenio, it is far more easier, you just need to create a smart contract, implement it in your game, do some marketing, that's all, your game is launched. The downside is that it doesn't solves the problem of scam games, however, it is a general problem even for centralized solutions like Google Play.
The other problem with Steam is the low quality/performance of the servers as they have to be reliable and generate revenues, while what i learned in the cryptocurrency world is that miners takes care of their hardware and pushes their capacities to the maximum, for example, in the case of SHA256 ASICS, they are used as heaters, so the servers used for XNO mining will be of a great quality with no doubt.
If you were to poll about the kind of computers prefered by developers, miners, or crypto users you will find that it is either custom home made computers, or, Asus ROG computers or another high end native configuration, even the platform users/gamers usually have good hardwares which means that they can be used for mining while they are sleeping or away from the computer which will provide them XNO.
Let me tell you about a less known community, non-steam, it is the cracked games of steam, the problem is that it is not legal to run them, however, using them in a P2P environment, user to user, it solves the legal issue of their usage, we will also setup a decentralized internet to let the communities develop on Xenio.
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Please specify what makes you better\different then other gaming-related altcoins. There are many others.
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Wow. it's a good project and I will consider to join this project when I can see the detailed plans for this coin.
Then I can support this project as my preferred subject.

@Nemgun is involved in the NVO Project as well. They get quite some heat on the SAFE Network forum. Nemgun (Imed Boudali) actually got banned for making posts like this one:

https://safenetforum.org/t/nvo-decentralized-exchange-crowdsale/13608/969

So they came to the SAFE community, took millions with their NVO project and within a few weeks they claimed that it couldn't be build on SAFE. Bye bye millions.

Here's the NVO website with Imed Boudali as part of the team and as a founder:

https://nvo.io

Notice how Imed claims in this topic below that he was just a volunteer and didn't got paid for the work he did:

https://safenetforum.org/t/nvo-decentralized-exchange-crowdsale/13608/359

Turned out he was a co-founder of the NVO project so he now has millions to share with the others.

So feel free to invest in this project but make sure to do some good research. In my opinion Nemgun (Imed Boudali) isn't qualified to say the least  Cheesy. One might actually wonder why he raised millions with NVO in May 2017 (while lying about his role in the project) only to do another ICO for another project a few months later. NVO hasn't delivered anything yet, not even a proof-of-concept.


If SAFE focused on SAFE this wouldn't be raised.
Instead of focussing on a working product they attack someone whom realised SAFE potentially cant produce and has worked out their own solution. Essentially in what looks like a 6 month time frame....SAFE is multiple years and still counting?

Zeeman - what matters are results so your opinion which is clearly biased on Nemguns skills  is not relevant to anyone but you and in all possibility not factual.

I wish NVO and Xenio the best of luck going forward.



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Zeeman,

I am an NVO investor.  If you were active on their slack you would see that the NVO team takes care in aiding their investors, even those that did not follow the rules of their crowdsale.  If you follow the SAFE forum from the beginning, you will see how some members the SAFE community treated the NVO team with ridicule and disrespect, and Imed lashed out on them.  Sure, he should have had more self control and took a higher road, but he is a young developer and not their PR guy.  

NVO has an Escrow to handle their ICO funds.  NVO has even taken less out than they are allowed to at this point in their development milestones.  

Regarding SAFE network - the NVO project initially planned to build on the SAFE network.  Imed noticed that they probably would not be ready by the time NVO was, so he began to work on his own solution.  It has been stated repeatedly that NVO will use the SAFE network when/if it is ever ready.  

Imed was originally to help with the validator, and NVO elected to make him a cofounder because of the extent he is going to help them.  I do not not know, as well as you, if he will get paid for this or not.  Perhaps in the beginning, when NVO thought the SAFE network would be used, Imed's role was smaller.  But now that he has to come up with an alternative solution his role has increased and his pay should reflect that, shouldn't it?

How are you to judge his qualifications?  Who are you to say he is or is not qualified?  Who are you to come to his channel and spread negativity, most of it biased and missing the entire truth?  

Anyone who wants to make a quality judgement on this project can feel free to go to the NVO slack channel and see how he and the NVO team have conducted themselves thus far.  NVO will release a wallet by November 1st and the exchange is to be ready Q1 2018.  They have not broken any promises, although the wallet has been pushed back a few weeks from the original release announcement due to Imed wanting to synch the coins with the exchange now instead of later.  

I am not affiliated with Imed or the NVO team other than sending them money during the ICO and later buying more NVO tokens.  I have no reason to convince anyone of anything, as the only thing that influences me directly is the success or failure of NVO.  But I have come to respect the NVO team through their interactions on the slack, and feel compelled to defend them from crap like this.



Wow. it's a good project and I will consider to join this project when I can see the detailed plans for this coin.
Then I can support this project as my preferred subject.

@Nemgun is involved in the NVO Project as well. They get quite some heat on the SAFE Network forum. Nemgun (Imed Boudali) actually got banned for making posts like this one:

https://safenetforum.org/t/nvo-decentralized-exchange-crowdsale/13608/969

So they came to the SAFE community, took millions with their NVO project and within a few weeks they claimed that it couldn't be build on SAFE. Bye bye millions.

Here's the NVO website with Imed Boudali as part of the team and as a founder:

https://nvo.io

Notice how Imed claims in this topic below that he was just a volunteer and didn't got paid for the work he did:

https://safenetforum.org/t/nvo-decentralized-exchange-crowdsale/13608/359

Turned out he was a co-founder of the NVO project so he now has millions to share with the others.

So feel free to invest in this project but make sure to do some good research. In my opinion Nemgun (Imed Boudali) isn't qualified to say the least  Cheesy. One might actually wonder why he raised millions with NVO in May 2017 (while lying about his role in the project) only to do another ICO for another project a few months later. NVO hasn't delivered anything yet, not even a proof-of-concept.

  

 


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