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legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1037
CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
Ok here is what I think: Stunna has used the community as a tool and nothing more. He does not give 2 shits about the community, just look in the past;

Stunna is running a business. He pays for signatures when it makes economical sense to do so. He advertises the site however he thinks will have the best response. That's what businesses do.

1.3+ billion bets it doesn't take a genious to figure out that Stunna has made enough money and then some to live life in luxury.

You can't work out anything about how well he has done from just the number of bets on a site where the overwhelming majority of those bets are dust bets made with faucet payments... The site no longer publishes the amount wagered, only the number of bets, but when it stopped, it had been looking like this:

Tue Sep 30 11:14:09 PDT 2014    BTC WAGERED: 479,855.2881 TOTAL BETS: 1,165,821,154
Wed Oct  1 09:26:44 PDT 2014    BTC WAGERED: 481,527.3520 TOTAL BETS: 1,173,764,666
Thu Oct  2 11:09:28 PDT 2014    BTC WAGERED: 484,587.2089 TOTAL BETS: 1,184,083,585

In the last 2 days they had 20 million bets wagering a total of 5000 BTC. That's an average of 0.00025 BTC per bet - much smaller than any of the other popular sites.

Stunna is a false greedy intelligent person - he could easy keep faucet up and still have enough, he has the money to hire way more staff but he doesn't need to. If he cared about the community he would keep the wallet and increased the staff to deal with problems. Go get me fanboys but come with valid arguments.

I'm not a fanboi, but I don't think any of this makes Stunna a bad person.

Stunna is a businessman. We have no idea how much his site has made or how much it has paid out to developers, hosting fees, funding the faucet, etc. Even if he has done very well from the site, he doesn't owe you the right to use a faucet on his site indefinitely.

It has been pretty clear that the site has been having trouble running smoothly at various times through its life. I get the impression that it has been better recently, but even then there have been problems with the chat lagging. Now maybe that's a good old fashioned DDoSing, but maybe the hoards of faucet users doesn't help either. If they're also overwhelming the support people with their calls free money then maybe it does make business sense to knock it on the head.

Exactly.

Faucet and hoards of faucet players don't benefit him at all. Ok maybe just in a sense that chat is more active than on any other site.
But that just makes ours (mods) jobs much harder Smiley .

High rollers doesn't like when they come to chat  and can't even see the chat from all pm's they get from begers , and yeah most of that begers are same people that are on pd just for faucet.

sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
the faucet alwasy been a marketing play for deposits.

why else would it be there lol.  This is a business! dont understand that then I dont know what to say.
member
Activity: 352
Merit: 10
PrimeDice is gambling, if you want to win, you have to risk BTC as well. Overall, I like primedice and know it is a legit gambling service.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
Ok here is what I think: Stunna has used the community as a tool and nothing more. He does not give 2 shits about the community, just look in the past;

Stunna is running a business. He pays for signatures when it makes economical sense to do so. He advertises the site however he thinks will have the best response. That's what businesses do.

1.3+ billion bets it doesn't take a genious to figure out that Stunna has made enough money and then some to live life in luxury.

You can't work out anything about how well he has done from just the number of bets on a site where the overwhelming majority of those bets are dust bets made with faucet payments... The site no longer publishes the amount wagered, only the number of bets, but when it stopped, it had been looking like this:

Tue Sep 30 11:14:09 PDT 2014    BTC WAGERED: 479,855.2881 TOTAL BETS: 1,165,821,154
Wed Oct  1 09:26:44 PDT 2014    BTC WAGERED: 481,527.3520 TOTAL BETS: 1,173,764,666
Thu Oct  2 11:09:28 PDT 2014    BTC WAGERED: 484,587.2089 TOTAL BETS: 1,184,083,585

In the last 2 days they had 20 million bets wagering a total of 5000 BTC. That's an average of 0.00025 BTC per bet - much smaller than any of the other popular sites.

Stunna is a false greedy intelligent person - he could easy keep faucet up and still have enough, he has the money to hire way more staff but he doesn't need to. If he cared about the community he would keep the wallet and increased the staff to deal with problems. Go get me fanboys but come with valid arguments.

I'm not a fanboi, but I don't think any of this makes Stunna a bad person.

Stunna is a businessman. We have no idea how much his site has made or how much it has paid out to developers, hosting fees, funding the faucet, etc. Even if he has done very well from the site, he doesn't owe you the right to use a faucet on his site indefinitely.

It has been pretty clear that the site has been having trouble running smoothly at various times through its life. I get the impression that it has been better recently, but even then there have been problems with the chat lagging. Now maybe that's a good old fashioned DDoSing, but maybe the hoards of faucet users doesn't help either. If they're also overwhelming the support people with their calls free money then maybe it does make business sense to knock it on the head.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1037
CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
He didn't use anybody . Nobody forced u to be in sig campaign or be on chat and use faucet. U wanted that , and u got paid for advertising. In my opinion way to much, to me as far as sig campaign is concerned WE used him.

As for faucet again he isn't using anybody . He is offering HUGE faucet , yes maybe as a marketing , not rly to help us earn something but still sure help new people learn about the site and bitcoin.

I just can't believe some people can say "he used us" while in fact we are using him. People are abusing faucet and using him and PD , every day.

Both sig campaign and faucet has mutual benefit , but i think it benefits US much more than HIM.

So saying that he used us rly its just ... Idk i don't have comment on that.
He used us as in "Community is everything marketing", community is nothing in his eyes, he made this to make BTC and achieved his goal - by removing faucet he is removing almost all community, I am not blaming him it's a smart move but it's a greedy move too.

I haven't used him I am minus profit on the site, I have offered a great amount of tips of how to improve the site, I have helped him out in several ways. You can ask him this yourself and search my previous posts in this thread.

It benefits us more than him? He's a smart guy made a huge investment in those campaigns, rains, faucets and made a fortune.

Which other dice site has faucet ?

Removing faucet won't remove almost nobody from community. There are no better dice sites than pd so idk where they will go, other than other faucets that gives out dust compared to pd.

I disagree with u on almost everything u said. And we will never agree on this so no point in arguing anymore.

Im for the faucet to stay , as i said .

As for everything else. I know u are not right about that, i was talking to Stunna about everything , and i know how much he cares about community and how much he helped most of us.

U can call me fan boy of pd. I don't mind that. I am one. And i am one for a good reasons.

I will even print some primedice T shirts , and do some pd teacups Wink .
Will explain why when i do that Wink .
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
He didn't use anybody . Nobody forced u to be in sig campaign or be on chat and use faucet. U wanted that , and u got paid for advertising. In my opinion way to much, to me as far as sig campaign is concerned WE used him.

As for faucet again he isn't using anybody . He is offering HUGE faucet , yes maybe as a marketing , not rly to help us earn something but still sure help new people learn about the site and bitcoin.

I just can't believe some people can say "he used us" while in fact we are using him. People are abusing faucet and using him and PD , every day.

Both sig campaign and faucet has mutual benefit , but i think it benefits US much more than HIM.

So saying that he used us rly its just ... Idk i don't have comment on that.
He used us as in "Community is everything marketing", community is nothing in his eyes. I haven't used him I am minus profit on the site, I have offered a great amount of tips of how to improve the site, I have helped him out in several ways. You can ask him this yourself.

It benefits us more than him? He's a smart guy made a huge investment in those campaigns, rains, faucets and made a fortune.


greed is king in crypto! ~ get to know

*...my fly by night pennystock friends are more of a community that these lying scumbags!  Roll Eyes
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
He didn't use anybody . Nobody forced u to be in sig campaign or be on chat and use faucet. U wanted that , and u got paid for advertising. In my opinion way to much, to me as far as sig campaign is concerned WE used him.

As for faucet again he isn't using anybody . He is offering HUGE faucet , yes maybe as a marketing , not rly to help us earn something but still sure help new people learn about the site and bitcoin.

I just can't believe some people can say "he used us" while in fact we are using him. People are abusing faucet and using him and PD , every day.

Both sig campaign and faucet has mutual benefit , but i think it benefits US much more than HIM.

So saying that he used us rly its just ... Idk i don't have comment on that.
He used us as in "Community is everything marketing", community is nothing in his eyes, he made this to make BTC and achieved his goal - by removing faucet he is removing almost all community, I am not blaming him it's a smart move but it's a greedy move too.

I haven't used him I am minus profit on the site, I have offered a great amount of tips of how to improve the site, I have helped him out in several ways. You can ask him this yourself and search my previous posts in this thread.

It benefits us more than him? He's a smart guy made a huge investment in those campaigns, rains, faucets and made a fortune.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
He didn't use anybody . Nobody forced u to be in sig campaign. U wanted that , and u got paid for advertising. In my opinion way to much, to me as far as sig campaign is concerned WE used him.

As for faucet again he isn't using anybody . He is offering HUGE faucet , yes maybe as a marketing , not rly to help us earn something but still sure help new people learn about the site and bitcoin.

I just can't believe some people can say "he used us" while in fact we are using him. People are abusing faucet and using him and PD , every day.

Both sig campaign and faucet has mutual benefit , but i think it benefits US much more than HIM.

So saying that he used us rly its just ... Idk i don't have comment on that.


i was used as he NEVER PAID ME FOR MY PROMOTIONAL WORK!!!!! (SIG CAMPAIGN)  Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1037
CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
He didn't use anybody . Nobody forced u to be in sig campaign or be on chat and use faucet. U wanted that , and u got paid for advertising. In my opinion way to much, to me as far as sig campaign is concerned WE used him.

As for faucet again he isn't using anybody . He is offering HUGE faucet , yes maybe as a marketing , not rly to help us earn something but still sure help new people learn about the site and bitcoin.

I just can't believe some people can say "he used us" while in fact we are using him. People are abusing faucet and using him and PD , every day.

Both sig campaign and faucet has mutual benefit , but i think it benefits US much more than HIM.

So saying that he used us rly its just ... Idk i don't have comment on that.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
To all you people complaining about the "Faucet"

Google.com can help you find faucets

PrimeDice.com is what it sounds like "Dice" "Gambling".... When you go to a casino, do you think the house will just give random people money to play and never have to deposit? No.


PrimeDice was meant for people to play with their own money, and the faucet was something Stunna thought would be cool to have some activity on site.

He's not removing it since he can't pay for it, he's removing it because it has actually caused him problems.... Support emails were meant for the people that actually had an issue with the site (Deposits, Cashouts, etc.) Not "My FAUCET Money is GONE... GIVE IT BACK".... It wasn't your money in the first place anyway.

We see that on chat all the time. People lose faucet couple of times and come to chat screaming how site is scam Cheesy . Its just ridiculous.

And i just can't believe how ungrateful some people are. Complaining about sig campaign gone and faucet now .

 


honestly i must admit i got some of my first BTC last year from stunnas promos!!!!

~ i immediately withdrew the coins as i had a gut feeling about online gambling...

however that fucking faucet lured me back ! ...and eventually here i go depositing MY OWN BTC IN !!!

Then look out, here i go promoting for primedice ! AND GET THIS STUNNA NEVER PAYS ME!!!!

> Well fuck it i'll win that shit! - deposit more, then go all nutzo & lose it to some obviously rigged string of rolls (see nil) i get haired, call them out on their bs and they brick my computer !

:-)

nice job ~ when do i get my .4BTC for siggy campaign? when do i get a new computer...? lol never?





hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
Ok here is what I think: Stunna has used the community as a tool and nothing more. He does not give 2 shits about the community, just look in the past;

Get paid by posting here with signature - remove when enough people are aware of the site.

Do you remember back when it was announced? It was going to be relased "next month" for over 7 months - he knew damn well that it wouldn't be released next month when he first announced it.

Do you remember how he made FAUCET+LEVEL WILL BE THE SHIT as pretty much main PR move? Faucet got nerfed and a cooldown was set on it, now it's getting removed alltogether.

Respect to you mods, and respect to you Edward if what you posted in the chat is true.

1.3+ billion bets it doesn't take a genious to figure out that Stunna has made enough money and then some to live life in luxury. Faucet is removed = the wast majority of playerbase is gone (aka the community), and he wont need to pay support or faucets.

Stunna is a false greedy intelligent person - he could easy keep faucet up and still have enough, he has the money to hire way more staff but he doesn't need to. If he cared about the community he would keep the wallet and increased the staff to deal with problems. Go get me fanboys but come with valid arguments.


Ur post just proves how people are ungrateful .

He run campaign for over 1 year, and paid 400+ btc to COMMUNITY , and now u say well he used us Huh Was it better not to do it at all ?
We all would love it to run forever . But wasn't this long time and this amount of coins he paid to us just enough ?
All i can say about that is THANK YOU STUNNA for running it that long and giving us opportunity to earn some money while doing what we would normally do. (posting on this forum)

Faucet + level , ofc its PR move, its to attract players , same as it is everything about every casino. U make casino for players and profits and everything u do for it its pr move and its to attract players.
And again i would say tnx for that coz faucet of most of players now is MUCH bigger than it was on pd2 .
And he never said it will last forever . And as owner he has all the rights to whatever he wants with the site.


Primedice is now basically one and only site that can be trusted . Every day all this new dice sites are dropping like fly's.
All that players u say it will be gone , they won't be gone to any other gambling site ,coz most of them don't offer faucet and never will.
And most of players that play only from faucet , they don't contribute to community at all.


Me and Hui talked about it yesterday , community is worse than it was on pd2 , on pd2 we all known each other , it was way more fun. Now there are many new users , just there for faucet and tips . Many of them making new accounts so its hard to know who they are .
Community was much better when faucet was 100 sat and 1000sat only to whitelisted people . It wasn't attracting this much attention and people that are there only for faucet and tips and not contributing to community at all.

So i would say faucet this big only made community worse but bigger.


All that said , i wouldn't love to see faucet gone and sure hope that it won't be gone.
As i said , faucet and community was what kept me on pd on the first day i found it.
Those 400+ was an investment to make him rich. I am not ungrateful, I made some BTC from it and I am happy. But he still used us for PR, owner has the right to do what he wants yes - so? He still used the great community as a tool, I am not ungrateful I am stating facts - he made the faucet bigger to attract more people, make enough money to last a lifetime and then some to later get rid of that community.

Is it crappier now than in PD2? Perhaps, I was on PD2 as well and the chat was more civilized. Faucet is 70-80% of the player base and they are the ones making it worse yes - but that's maybe 10% who fuck things up, the rest of us who deposits every now and then and doesn't beg gets taken advantage of.
It's smart buissness but it's also kind of douchy to do that.
Your reply doesn't argue against mine but just tell me to be grateful for the run.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1037
CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
To all you people complaining about the "Faucet"

Google.com can help you find faucets

PrimeDice.com is what it sounds like "Dice" "Gambling".... When you go to a casino, do you think the house will just give random people money to play and never have to deposit? No.


PrimeDice was meant for people to play with their own money, and the faucet was something Stunna thought would be cool to have some activity on site.

He's not removing it since he can't pay for it, he's removing it because it has actually caused him problems.... Support emails were meant for the people that actually had an issue with the site (Deposits, Cashouts, etc.) Not "My FAUCET Money is GONE... GIVE IT BACK".... It wasn't your money in the first place anyway.

We see that on chat all the time. People lose faucet couple of times and come to chat screaming how site is scam Cheesy . Its just ridiculous.

And i just can't believe how ungrateful some people are. Complaining about sig campaign gone and faucet now .

 
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1037
CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
Ok here is what I think: Stunna has used the community as a tool and nothing more. He does not give 2 shits about the community, just look in the past;

Get paid by posting here with signature - remove when enough people are aware of the site.

Do you remember back when it was announced? It was going to be relased "next month" for over 7 months - he knew damn well that it wouldn't be released next month when he first announced it.

Do you remember how he made FAUCET+LEVEL WILL BE THE SHIT as pretty much main PR move? Faucet got nerfed and a cooldown was set on it, now it's getting removed alltogether.

Respect to you mods, and respect to you Edward if what you posted in the chat is true.

1.3+ billion bets it doesn't take a genious to figure out that Stunna has made enough money and then some to live life in luxury. Faucet is removed = the wast majority of playerbase is gone (aka the community), and he wont need to pay support or faucets.

Stunna is a false greedy intelligent person - he could easy keep faucet up and still have enough, he has the money to hire way more staff but he doesn't need to. If he cared about the community he would keep the wallet and increased the staff to deal with problems. Go get me fanboys but come with valid arguments.


Ur post just proves how people are ungrateful .

He run campaign for over 1 year, and paid 400+ btc to COMMUNITY , and now u say well he used us Huh Was it better not to do it at all ?
We all would love it to run forever . But wasn't this long time and this amount of coins he paid to us just enough ?
All i can say about that is THANK YOU STUNNA for running it that long and giving us opportunity to earn some money while doing what we would normally do. (posting on this forum)

Faucet + level , ofc its PR move, its to attract players , same as it is everything about every casino. U make casino for players and profits and everything u do for it its pr move and its to attract players.
And again i would say tnx for that coz faucet of most of players now is MUCH bigger than it was on pd2 .
And he never said it will last forever . And as owner he has all the rights to whatever he wants with the site.


Primedice is now basically one and only site that can be trusted . Every day all this new dice sites are dropping like fly's.
All that players u say it will be gone , they won't be gone to any other gambling site ,coz most of them don't offer faucet and never will.
And most of players that play only from faucet , they don't contribute to community at all.


Me and Hui talked about it yesterday , community is worse than it was on pd2 , on pd2 we all known each other , it was way more fun. Now there are many new users , just there for faucet and tips . Many of them making new accounts so its hard to know who they are .
Community was much better when faucet was 100 sat and 1000sat only to whitelisted people . It wasn't attracting this much attention and people that are there only for faucet and tips and not contributing to community at all.

So i would say faucet this big only made community worse but bigger.


All that said , i wouldn't love to see faucet gone and sure hope that it won't be gone.
As i said , faucet and community was what kept me on pd on the first day i found it.
hero member
Activity: 683
Merit: 500
To all you people complaining about the "Faucet"

Google.com can help you find faucets

PrimeDice.com is what it sounds like "Dice" "Gambling".... When you go to a casino, do you think the house will just give random people money to play and never have to deposit? No.


PrimeDice was meant for people to play with their own money, and the faucet was something Stunna thought would be cool to have some activity on site.

He's not removing it since he can't pay for it, he's removing it because it has actually caused him problems.... Support emails were meant for the people that actually had an issue with the site (Deposits, Cashouts, etc.) Not "My FAUCET Money is GONE... GIVE IT BACK".... It wasn't your money in the first place anyway.
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
Ok here is what I think: Stunna has used the community as a tool and nothing more. He does not give 2 shits about the community, just look in the past;

Get paid by posting here with signature - remove when enough people are aware of the site.

Do you remember back when PD3 was announced? It was going to be relased "next month" for over 7 months - he knew damn well that it wouldn't be released next month when he first announced it.

Do you remember how he made FAUCET+LEVEL WILL BE THE SHIT as pretty much main PR move? Faucet got nerfed and a cooldown was set on it, now it's getting removed alltogether.

Respect to you mods, and respect to you Edward if what you posted in the chat is true.

1.3+ billion bets it doesn't take a genious to figure out that Stunna has made enough money and then some to live life in luxury. Faucet is removed = the wast majority of playerbase is gone (aka the community), and he wont need to pay support or faucets.

Stunna is a false greedy intelligent person - he could easy keep faucet up and still have enough, he has the money to hire way more staff but he doesn't need to. If he cared about the community he would keep the wallet and increased the staff to deal with problems. Go get me fanboys but come with valid arguments.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
stunna, congrats on being #1 bitcoin dice site with total # of bets. you passed just-dice a few days 1.3 billion +
hero member
Activity: 683
Merit: 500
Well obviously have a MAX SET

Or only affect faucet amount by the faucet claim betting
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
I hope for rakeback with level... That would be an idea that could work.
hero member
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Merit: 507
Stunna see if you can add VIROOL ADS and reward players 'balance' with each ad they watch... In at the same time, it's a casino and a faucet Cheesy
You can even set min faucet to 500 sat, and for ever 0.001 wagered we can get a 100 sat increase? Reset it daily?

Lol.

So I bet 1BTC and after that I will have a 100k sat faucet?
I think that would be a bad idea...
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
We have one admin on our side at least, he thinks Stunna is too greedy and will work for us.
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