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FUCK STUNNA
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I would just to highlight MICRO's opinion for the other people out here.

Say if I made 5 bets on 49,5% in a row, as follows;


 58.56 /.01btc
 95.32 /.02btc
 63.25 /.04btc
*45.50 /.08btc  (this bet was a loss but later revealed to be a win)
 88.25 /.16btc
 84.20 /.32btc


IF this happened and I continued doubling until I lost my bank roll, then I think I have been mislead or somehow feel it is unfair. MICRO thinks I should build a time machine and I am not entitled to anything except the .08btc bet in which it was shown later to be a win. EVEN though if I had won the bet I would never have bet .16 on the next roll.

Doesnt seem right to me Smiley

Yes but if u won that last bet , u would get that 0.01 just a bit later. And then i don't see how u should get refund for bets in between.

Also u might stopped betting after ur bet that shoulda been won, or busted on that bet. There are many possible outcomes , and no way to prove any one of them as a 100% case what would happen if it didn't happen.

And it would be extremely hard for them to check every single player on that list for bets after that bet. But yeah i agree in special cases like this one when u ask for it, its ok to check and in ur example ^ i agree u should get refund for that bets after. If indeed did endup in u busting and not simply stop playing or many other scenarios that could happen. 

Sorry last post about it here Cheesy . I sent u a pm before this.

Yes MICRO Smiley I think I should be in the event that I busted on the streak. I dont question the outcome of other rolls Smiley PS there were 2 bets this happened on, and 'large' (no LARGE but significant to me)

I am glad we reach some kind of understanding, even if it is agreed to disagree. Smiley
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Faucet doesn't work on Chrome for me.  Faucet is getting worse and worse and then this betting fiasco, come on get your act together PD3.
legendary
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I would just to highlight MICRO's opinion for the other people out here.

Say if I made 5 bets on 49,5% in a row, as follows;


 58.56 /.01btc
 95.32 /.02btc
 63.25 /.04btc
*45.50 /.08btc  (this bet was a loss but later revealed to be a win)
 88.25 /.16btc
 84.20 /.32btc


IF this happened and I continued doubling until I lost my bank roll, then I think I have been mislead or somehow feel it is unfair. MICRO thinks I should build a time machine and I am not entitled to anything except the .08btc bet in which it was shown later to be a win. EVEN though if I had won the bet I would never have bet .16 on the next roll.

Doesnt seem right to me Smiley

Yes but if u won that last bet , u would get that 0.01 just a bit later. And then i don't see how u should get refund for bets in between.

Also u might stopped betting after ur bet that shoulda been won, or busted on that bet. There are many possible outcomes , and no way to prove any one of them as a 100% case what would happen if it didn't happen.

And it would be extremely hard for them to check every single player on that list for bets after that bet. But yeah i agree in special cases like this one when u ask for it, its ok to check and in ur example ^ i agree u should get refund for that bets after. If indeed did endup in u busting and not simply stop playing or many other scenarios that could happen. 

Sorry last post about it here Cheesy . I sent u a pm before this.
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I would just to highlight MICRO's opinion for the other people out here.

Say if I made 5 bets on 49,5% in a row, as follows;


 58.56 /.01btc
 95.32 /.02btc
 63.25 /.04btc
*45.50 /.08btc  (this bet was a loss but later revealed to be a win)
 88.25 /.16btc
 84.20 /.32btc


IF this happened and I continued doubling until I lost my bank roll, then I think I have been mislead or somehow feel it is unfair. MICRO thinks I should build a time machine and I am not entitled to anything except the .08btc bet in which it was shown later to be a win. EVEN though if I had won the bet I would never have bet .16 on the next roll.

Doesnt seem right to me Smiley
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Your signature is a direct copy (with a bit of modding) from Primedice 3.
 
IMHO that makes you badass. You decide how to interpret that word.

Did you find the hidden part that MICRO asked me to include?

I can't find it Cheesy .
I see it says biggest bitcoin game in the world thou. By which measure ? Amount of bets ? Wagered ? Number of players ?

And what i said to some other campaign, u should tell them that PD (Stunna) paid for that signature design. I hope they atleast asked to use it. Smiley



As for Lain33 issue, im still holding my opinion on that.
There is no way to know what he would done after that losing bet if it was settled correctly. Maybe he would stop , and cashout. Maybe he would stop betting. Maybe he would start another martingale. Maybe not continue that martingale and lose more. If he continued it and stop on win, than he won starting amount, if bet was settled correctly he would start over again and again he would win starting amount. I rly don't see why he should get refund for losing streak up to next win in martingale. And keep that win. Im sorry i just can't agree with that.  
We just don't know, and IMO he should be refunded only that bet+profit ofc.

What happened after that, and what would happen if it didn't happen... We just don't know, (except Lain) .

Im glad that Stunna did look into it and will refund him in full like he suggested.
But if everybody starts asking for checking how that roll effected his other rolls after it or his whole day or week after it (which they can argue it did), it will take a long time to refund everybody . And alot of work. Smiley

Cheers Lain and no hard feelings Smiley . We just don't agree on something that's all Smiley .


MICRO... I give up.. it is clear you are not understanding the issue... even though it has been explained OVER AND OVER. Perhaps a light-bulb moment will happen if you re-read the posts... I am not sure if you are being so stupid on purpose on not... 'What happened after that, and what would happen if it didn't happen... We just don't know' OMG... can someone please help this guy?

THE BET DID HAPPEN AFTER MATE -ITS ON RECORD -thats what I'm trying to find out and this is what the ENTIRE post is about. I dunno.. pehaps Dooglus can explain it to you-   SERIOUSLY WTF ARE YOU SMOKING...


Maybe ur bet logs after that bet would help. But we won't discuss it here more Cheesy . If u get logs from Stunna when he refunds ur losing streak, u can pm me with them. If that martingale ended up as a win on the end for u... we can continue over pm Cheesy . Don't want to spam this topic with issue that is already resolved like Stunna stated it is or will be.

Listen mate, please don't say anything further about my issue until you can grasp it. You only cause more confusion. And no hard feelings dude, you just dont seem to understand. I am not talking about rolls a week or so later.. but I am not explaining this again.

On a further note I find it funny you said an issue was 'it will take a long time to refund everybody' -if it was proven that someone lost unfairly then YES, it would be unfortunate that it takes time -should we forgot about people who lost unfairly because it 'might take some time' to resolve?! But I dont think anyone is going to argue that point Mirco. I am not arguing that in any case

  Cheers
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Your signature is a direct copy (with a bit of modding) from Primedice 3.
 
IMHO that makes you badass. You decide how to interpret that word.

Did you find the hidden part that MICRO asked me to include?

I can't find it Cheesy .
I see it says biggest bitcoin game in the world thou. By which measure ? Amount of bets ? Wagered ? Number of players ?

And what i said to some other campaign, u should tell them that PD (Stunna) paid for that signature design. I hope they atleast asked to use it. Smiley



As for Lain33 issue, im still holding my opinion on that.
There is no way to know what he would done after that losing bet if it was settled correctly. Maybe he would stop , and cashout. Maybe he would stop betting. Maybe he would start another martingale. Maybe not continue that martingale and lose more. If he continued it and stop on win, than he won starting amount, if bet was settled correctly he would start over again and again he would win starting amount. I rly don't see why he should get refund for losing streak up to next win in martingale. And keep that win. Im sorry i just can't agree with that. 
We just don't know, and IMO he should be refunded only that bet+profit ofc.

What happened after that, and what would happen if it didn't happen... We just don't know, (except Lain) .

Im glad that Stunna did look into it and will refund him in full like he suggested.
But if everybody starts asking for checking how that roll effected his other rolls after it or his whole day or week after it (which they can argue it did), it will take a long time to refund everybody . And alot of work. Smiley

Cheers Lain and no hard feelings Smiley . We just don't agree on something that's all Smiley .


MICRO... I give up.. it is clear you are not understanding the issue... even though it has been explained OVER AND OVER. Perhaps a light-bulb moment will happen if you re-read the posts... I am not sure if you are being so stupid on purpose on not... 'What happened after that, and what would happen if it didn't happen... We just don't know' OMG... can someone please help this guy?

THE BET DID HAPPEN AFTER MATE -ITS ON RECORD -thats what I'm trying to find out and this is what the ENTIRE post is about. I dunno.. pehaps Dooglus can explain it to you-   SERIOUSLY WTF ARE YOU SMOKING...


Maybe ur bet logs after that bet would help. But we won't discuss it here more Cheesy . If u get logs from Stunna when he refunds ur losing streak, u can pm me with them. If that martingale ended up as a win on the end for u... we can continue over pm Cheesy . Don't want to spam this topic with issue that is already resolved like Stunna stated it is or will be.
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Your signature is a direct copy (with a bit of modding) from Primedice 3.
 
IMHO that makes you badass. You decide how to interpret that word.

Did you find the hidden part that MICRO asked me to include?

I can't find it Cheesy .
I see it says biggest bitcoin game in the world thou. By which measure ? Amount of bets ? Wagered ? Number of players ?

And what i said to some other campaign, u should tell them that PD (Stunna) paid for that signature design. I hope they atleast asked to use it. Smiley



As for Lain33 issue, im still holding my opinion on that.
There is no way to know what he would done after that losing bet if it was settled correctly. Maybe he would stop , and cashout. Maybe he would stop betting. Maybe he would start another martingale. Maybe not continue that martingale and lose more. If he continued it and stop on win, than he won starting amount, if bet was settled correctly he would start over again and again he would win starting amount. I rly don't see why he should get refund for losing streak up to next win in martingale. And keep that win. Im sorry i just can't agree with that.  
We just don't know, and IMO he should be refunded only that bet+profit ofc.

What happened after that, and what would happen if it didn't happen... We just don't know, (except Lain) .

Im glad that Stunna did look into it and will refund him in full like he suggested.
But if everybody starts asking for checking how that roll effected his other rolls after it or his whole day or week after it (which they can argue it did), it will take a long time to refund everybody . And alot of work. Smiley

Cheers Lain and no hard feelings Smiley . We just don't agree on something that's all Smiley .


MICRO... I give up.. it is clear you are not understanding the issue... even though it has been explained OVER AND OVER. Perhaps a light-bulb moment will happen if you re-read the posts... I am not sure if you are being so stupid on purpose on not... 'What happened after that, and what would happen if it didn't happen... We just don't know' OMG... can someone please help this guy?

THE BET DID HAPPEN AFTER MATE -ITS ON RECORD -thats what I'm trying to find out and this is what the ENTIRE post is about. I dunno.. pehaps Dooglus can explain it to you-   SERIOUSLY WTF ARE YOU SMOKING...

legendary
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CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
Your signature is a direct copy (with a bit of modding) from Primedice 3.
 
IMHO that makes you badass. You decide how to interpret that word.

Did you find the hidden part that MICRO asked me to include?

I can't find it Cheesy .
I see it says biggest bitcoin game in the world thou. By which measure ? Amount of bets ? Wagered ? Number of players ?

And what i said to some other campaign, u should tell them that PD (Stunna) paid for that signature design. I hope they atleast asked to use it. Smiley



As for Lain33 issue, im still holding my opinion on that.
There is no way to know what he would done after that losing bet if it was settled correctly. Maybe he would stop , and cashout. Maybe he would stop betting. Maybe he would start another martingale. Maybe not continue that martingale and lose more. If he continued it and stop on win, than he won starting amount, if bet was settled correctly he would start over again and again he would win starting amount. I rly don't see why he should get refund for losing streak up to next win in martingale. And keep that win. Im sorry i just can't agree with that.  
We just don't know, and IMO he should be refunded only that bet+profit ofc.

What happened after that, and what would happen if it didn't happen... We just don't know, (except Lain) .

Im glad that Stunna did look into it and will refund him in full like he suggested.
But if everybody starts asking for checking how that roll effected his other rolls after it or his whole day or week after it (which they can argue it did), it will take a long time to refund everybody . And alot of work. Smiley

And btw, i didn't in any way "advise" Stunna how to handle that with my comments, we as mods DO NOT take part in resolving issues like this (luckily for Lain Cheesy ) . All we do is keep the chat clear and nothing else. So don't take my word as he said "speaking on behalf of pd" .

Cheers Lain and no hard feelings Smiley . We just don't agree on something that's all Smiley .
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I could sure go for the same thing as the guy crying about his loss streak ending his life.



I always martingale too on losses.  





Yeah, and you lost, fair and sqaure, like you deserved to. That is not my case



I always doubled on losses.  How could you say I am not the one deserving repayment and you're the one who didn't bust from the rolls?



If you never busted from those two rolls you deserve shit.  You probably recovered and I didn't.
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I shouldnt have Played, i should not have played again.

Deposited 1.1 btc, then won and had 1.2 btc then i lost all 1.2 btc because im greedy. Dont play if you are greedy haha.
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I could sure go for the same thing as the guy crying about his loss streak ending his life.



I always martingale too on losses.  





Yeah, and you lost, fair and sqaure, like you deserved to. That is not my case
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You guys are all twist the matter, clearly just defend PD no matter what. No Mirco, not an INFINITE amount, the AMOUNT that I wagered. I won't bother replyning here, I have seen the format these PD suckers reply in. Its like 'insert sarcastic attempt to be funny' blablabla 'PD rules' blablabla 'sorry man some people are unlucky' blabla 'something about varience'

U are getting refunded for that bet , ur bet + profit u would make. And that is it.

U can't get refund for any bets before or after that .

If he always martingales, always doubles after losing a bet, then I don't see why you wouldn't refund the whole losing streak that followed the incorrectly settled bet. It's pretty obvious that he wouldn't have gone on to make all the bigger bets if the incorrectly settled bet had been marked as a win like it should have been.

The error is entirely PD's fault, and in a clear cut case like this I don't see why they wouldn't do what's right and refund the whole losing streak.

It seems pretty unlikely that either of his buggy rolls were part of a busting streak anyway, so it's probably an academic point, but the attitude I'm seeing from the mods quite frankly sucks.

Dooglus thanks for your reasonable, level headed approach / opinion to my enquiry, you seem to understand my logic. It is good to see not everyone is as dim as:

best360noscope

KingOfSports

adaseb


Seriously, WTF is wrong with these guys?

These users are defending something without reading the OP and make me wonder what they are even doing replying. In general, the responses from users defending PD makes me think the're all in cahoots, or cannot read properly. I seriously wonder about the itellectual capacity of some of the people on this blog -I think about 1/10 understood me even though I explained myself carefuly. They attacked me with such strange answers -just angry because I was making a claim in what I beleive is a legimate case. Of course, whether or not I am even entitled to the losses from any subsequent roll is a matter of opinion and I will leave that to Stunna. It angered me to see the other replies -such as MIRCO telling me 'I WILL NOT GET ANYMORE BACK' and talking about time machine etc -WTF?! But whatever, thats water under the bridge now.

Furthermore, you can understand how I may feel a little cheated if this 'co-incidence' happened to me twice (I think I am the only user that was affect twice but I might be wrong) and I ended up loosing my bankroll, especially when my gambling behaviour was very predictable. I would have serious doubt in the integrity of the rolls, regardless of any provably fair notions. I am not accusing PD of any cheating - so far, it seems all legit so let's see..

Stunna also replied which makes me feel at ease. He also understood the basic principle of my enquiry.

PS Dooglus I also noted you have a website dice.ninja?
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Stunna,

is there anyway to remove 2FA from my account? I am upgrading my phone and wont have access to the code anymore.

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I could sure go for the same thing as the guy crying about his loss streak ending his life.



I always martingale too on losses. 



legendary
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Your signature is a direct copy (with a bit of modding) from Primedice 3.
 
IMHO that makes you badass. You decide how to interpret that word.

Did you find the hidden part that MICRO asked me to include?
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There is massive misinformation in this thread as usual. There was no "nonce" issue with primedice, you are thinking of dicebitcoin.

On primedice 2 the edge was 1.01% instead of 1% as advertised when betting on 2x due to how the numbers were rounded. This effected an extremely small amount of bets above faucet amount, there is a 1/10,000 chance your bet was effected.

I have tried over and over again to explain this to you. There was a 1/20,000 chance than any individual bet on PD2 was settled as a loss when it should have been settled as a win.

Not 1/10,10000.

And the guy you're replying to was on the list. Twice. So there is a 100% chance his bets were affected. That's why he's complaining.

"significant bet considering I pre-roll 5 reds and had almost"

You sir seriously need to learn the basics of probability

No, he's right. While pre-rolling is a dumb strategy that only appears to work because it wastes so much time that it delays your inevitable losing streak, his point is that since he pre-rolls until he gets 5 losing bets in a row, almost all of his bets are "dust" bets, and so it's weird that his two incorrectly settled bets were for large amounts. You would think that if 97% of your bets are dust bets, then your two incorrectly settled bets are also very likely to be dust bets.

What he's missing is that Stunna's list of incorrectly settled bets is only the significant ones - he has already filtered out all the dust bets that were settled incorrectly.
Your signature is a direct copy (with a bit of modding) from Primedice 3.
 
IMHO that makes you badass. You decide how to interpret that word.
legendary
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There is massive misinformation in this thread as usual. There was no "nonce" issue with primedice, you are thinking of dicebitcoin.

On primedice 2 the edge was 1.01% instead of 1% as advertised when betting on 2x due to how the numbers were rounded. This effected an extremely small amount of bets above faucet amount, there is a 1/10,000 chance your bet was effected.

I have tried over and over again to explain this to you. There was a 1/20,000 chance than any individual bet on PD2 was settled as a loss when it should have been settled as a win.

Not 1/10,10000.

And the guy you're replying to was on the list. Twice. So there is a 100% chance his bets were affected. That's why he's complaining.

"significant bet considering I pre-roll 5 reds and had almost"

You sir seriously need to learn the basics of probability

No, he's right. While pre-rolling is a dumb strategy that only appears to work because it wastes so much time that it delays your inevitable losing streak, his point is that since he pre-rolls until he gets 5 losing bets in a row, almost all of his bets are "dust" bets, and so it's weird that his two incorrectly settled bets were for large amounts. You would think that if 97% of your bets are dust bets, then your two incorrectly settled bets are also very likely to be dust bets.

What he's missing is that Stunna's list of incorrectly settled bets is only the significant ones - he has already filtered out all the dust bets that were settled incorrectly.
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You guys are all twist the matter, clearly just defend PD no matter what. No Mirco, not an INFINITE amount, the AMOUNT that I wagered. I won't bother replyning here, I have seen the format these PD suckers reply in. Its like 'insert sarcastic attempt to be funny' blablabla 'PD rules' blablabla 'sorry man some people are unlucky' blabla 'something about varience'

U are getting refunded for that bet , ur bet + profit u would make. And that is it.

U can't get refund for any bets before or after that .

If he always martingales, always doubles after losing a bet, then I don't see why you wouldn't refund the whole losing streak that followed the incorrectly settled bet. It's pretty obvious that he wouldn't have gone on to make all the bigger bets if the incorrectly settled bet had been marked as a win like it should have been.

The error is entirely PD's fault, and in a clear cut case like this I don't see why they wouldn't do what's right and refund the whole losing streak.

It seems pretty unlikely that either of his buggy rolls were part of a busting streak anyway, so it's probably an academic point, but the attitude I'm seeing from the mods quite frankly sucks.

I already agreed to do so, I appreciate the opinions of the mods but that was already decided on so there is no point in continuing to debate this.


OK STUNNA PLEASE REMOVE THE SPAMMING BOT CODE, HIGH ROLLER ONCE EVERY 1 SECOND POSTED IN CHAT.  Chat has been literally impossible to properly use for the last 30 minutes+ (think it's an hour soon) thanks to spam from the bot.

Make it post once or twice a min, make it announce once in a while, after 1 of those posts everyone interested turns to watch the high roller anyway.

Once every autobet... It's unbearable, and spam if I ever saw it, imagine if 2 of those came...

I'm pretty sure everyone will agree with me, unless they spite me (which is a possibility).

Just changed it so it only advertises 10+ btc bets now. I can further limit it to a max amount of advertisements per 10 seconds as well.
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