Topic: Primedice.com | Since 2013 | Longest Running Crypto Casino | 113 BTC Jackpot! - page 1179. (Read 1989912 times)

Not because I could have doubled it -but I ALWAYS DO -that's how I played and my bet history can prove that too. Also, I like the way you try to play it down 'a few extra bucks' yeah sure just a few extra bucks whatever. It was more than a few bucks, AND the amount should not matter at all. Furthermore, on a final note, this does not concern you, so stay out of fit, insect.

I did not ask any of your opinions. I lost in a streak that tainted and unfair. Who the hell are you scumbags anyway, must be working for PD to sit here all day and reply so fast, jeez, I just went to get some coffee.

are you kidding me? you got a fucking refund, but that is not enough for you. gtfo you moocher

You want more BTC because you could have doubled it, then doubled it again? That's a mathematically ignorant approach. You could not only have lost it - I think you're forgetting that - but a) you're basing on this on the fact that you are now claiming you would have gambled that BTC, which obviously you can't prove, and b) if you use those BTC to gamble now you have the exact same chance of doubling it. Your approach makes no sense - please don't try to twist a site's support this way because you want a few extra bucks.

Quick Side Note: I am not affiliated with PD other than moderating chat, I do not get paid by them, this is my own opinion, etc etc etc.

Hello,

I have been playing on PD for over 2 years and many hundreds of bitcoin wagered. Not a whale of anything of that nature but a liked to gamble some extra money in my spare time. Well, like most, my luck ran out and I ended up losing a bit in the end. Alright.

Recently it came to my attention that (quote) "it was found that the house edge was actually higher than 1% because of the rounding they placed on all rolls. At least 1 in 20,000 bets were marked as losing bets when they should of been a winning bet. All bets had a 1.05% to 50% house edge. It may seem small, but when there have been 781,000,000 bets for a total of 408,000B wagered, it is actually very meaningful."
ref to topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.7880

So, out of pure interest I went to look at the published list of users affected and would you believe it, I happened to be on the list twice. Once for a .01btc bet and once for a .02 btc bet, both on 2x payout.
I had my 'strategy' figured out on primedice I would pre-roll 5 reds then start to martingale at .01 hope to bloody hell it goes green soon I did pretty well in the beginning but eventually I hit that streak that we fear and we are in a loss. 'Those' streaks only happened about 2/3 times to me as I am not a millionaire and cannot afford to double up much at all from such a high base bet.

So I learn that I have been a 'victim' (for lack of a better word) of the flaw that was on PD and consequently lost my beloved .03 btc. Well, at least the site is being kind enough to publish the list of users effected. I personally am amazed that my luck was so bad that I am on that list but there you go. There is now a glimmer of hope however, lets see what PD support says. The guy who replied was super fast, glad to help you -after verifying that I was indeed the user claiming to be affected he said 'sure -what's new PD addy and I'll send you the .03btc now!' Nooooow, just hang on a wee moment there buddy, I BET .02 & .01 with a 2x payout -since it's now been 'proven' that I won, then I WON. You at LEAST owe me the wager + winnings. He/she/it said 'I will double check' and shortly came back to confirm that indeed I am right.

Secondly, and all along, I had been asking to see the subsequent bets after these affected bets, because, if I wagered .02 and lost, I would have doubled up and perhaps lost again, and again -it it might have been this streak that killed me. There were not too many so I have a damn good reason to think it's possible. I pointed this out again to support, who said although the do not agree with my theory they can look into the matter but it would take 'significant' time and I may end up getting nothing back. What he could do was offer me a few pennies worth of btc as a consultation. I told him I am not interested in a meager handout from his back pocket of a few satoshi - I bet hundreds of dollars and may have been duped from the ineptness of the sites ability to process a simple bet on 2x. IF I had won that 2x bet, instead of being a couple btc in arears, I would have been in profit. YOU'RE site FUCKED me out out my BTC. Sorry for the french but I am not some decrepit lowlife playing from faucet, I was/am a serious customer of PD. Even on PD3 I was excited and I am lv25 or something.

I did not have a answer now for 2 days from support. They said the dev's would have to find the results and they would get back to me. I am hoping they do as I still have faith in PD but it wears thin now. I don't know what to make of this error except that I am sad I fell victim to it. I hope PD steps up to the plate on this one, show the people they are a decent bunch and pay back a customer IN FULL when there has frankly been a heinous breach of trust.

Lain

well you gotta respect people decisions. this how he runs his business, so lets respect the persons decision

That ^ .

It can't be provably fair, and people will talk how he is scamming every time when something like yesterday happens , some whale wins big. Which he just doesn't need.

And yeah that would mean sharing profits with investors , which again he doesn't need.

Pd probably has much bigger bankroll than to cover current max bet , but since its all on its own its better to take less risk .

When its not ur money that they gamble u can set max bet to 10% of bankroll , who cares its not ur money that u are risking.

Why would Stunna implement something that can't be provably fair, while allowing other bankrollers to take some of HIS winnings. That to me seems a little crazy given how successfully PrimeDice is already. If it aint broke...

IMHO Stunna, you're causing more harm then good not accepting investments. DB just got caught again for skipping nonce's, this will probably be the end for them and he will most likely run off with investors funds (1k+ BTC). Sure you can tell people not to invest in any website since it's not provably fair but greed is human nature, if they think they can make money, they're going to do whatever, no matter how much you emphasize how risky it is.

I can totally understand if you don't want to accept investments because you would prefer to risk the bank-roll with your own coins but if that's not the case and you don't want to accept investments because it's not provably fair, I think that's extremely stupid. You're 1 of if not the most trusted guy in the btc gambling industry and I think you should seriously re-consider accepting investments.

Also if you don't want to be liable for holding that many coins, what's the worst that can happen if you put them in an offline wallet? I'm sure Dooglus would give advice on the best way to do things as he had 60k + coins invested at peak and not a single problem occurred.

Either way, this is the last time I'll bring it up because I'm probably getting annoying lol.

Good luck either way.

I would suggest looking at the following http://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_httpmethods.asp

It looks like your still doing GET

Using Python


">https://api.primedice.com/api/bets?access_token=XXXXXX&amount=0.00001&target=0.5&condition=>

I get 404

Working for me. How are you implementing it?

Also is the API working properly for POST?

Whenever I try any of the post commands I get an 404 error.


The GET seems to work

Is there anyway to disable the 2fa? I am uprading phones and need to turn it off temporarily

Menu was fixed a few days ago, some modals are still a bit too big but everything seems to serve its base purpose for now.

It doesn't, like for menu, but you can roll and deposite.

Supposedly bets made on slot machines account for up to 85% of a brick and mortar casino's profit*. I'd imagine the majority of these bets aren't very significant in size but edges on slot machines can reach as high as 10-15% depending on the location. Also if you're playing slots at a less reputable place like a shady restaurant or bar I've heard of some machines being "rigged" in a similar manner as many crane games, only generating a jackpot/big win after certain profit thresholds have been reached thus guaranteeing profit for the operator.  

With regards to Primedice, non-highrollers probably don't account for much profit in the short run, perhaps just enough to cover expenses. Small whales are frequent enough to provide a constant stream of profit while whales of this magnitude are so rare that it is usually pretty hit or miss but it all seems to work out for the house in the long run.


The recent whale on PD wagered over 25,000 between two accounts and still managed to turn a profit of 100+ which is unusual granted the volume & number of bets, he had some insanely lucky recoveries. He advertised another dice site after he won and I've heard that he's won significantly elsewhere. However, there are always people who seem to defy the expected odds in a much unluckier way.

This is from two days ago:



*Reference: http://www.vox.com/2014/8/7/5976927/slot-machines-casinos-addiction-by-design

they recover from another whales losses, the little fishes are using the faucets

I expect all the little fish combined don't amount to much and that PD recoups the losses from other whales. Or from the same whale, next time he plays...

That's how it tended to go on Just-Dice. The small players make the site feel busy and keep the chat active, but didn't directly contribute much to the bottom line.

I wonder if it's the same in brick and mortar casinos.

Impressive, that kind of whale activity is scary...  I suppose that over time, PD recoup's the losses over time with the little fish.