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Quote from: MICRO on March 24, 2014, 08:35:43 AM

Yes it changed outcome BUT NOT UR CHANCE TO WIN!

@RGBkey, i don't think that primedice gives that error to stop u from betting. They can't afford to cheat.
And still he cant prove that he got error and not just refreshed page coz he wanted to.

The whole "They can't afford to cheat" mindset is what gets people to lose money. Let me be clear, i am not accusing PD of anything, but people like you that think PD is too big to cheat is part of the problem.

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Quote from: spixel on March 24, 2014, 08:33:07 AM

Quote from: spixel on March 24, 2014, 08:33:07 AM

Yes it changed outcome BUT NOT UR CHANCE TO WIN!

Well we know the result of the roll had 0 chance to win as I lost. But had the error not happened my chance would have been different because it would have been a different roll.

Again, where is the explanation for this error and why did it interfere in my betting.

No ur chance to win on that bet was 80% not 0, also would been 80% if error did not occur . And in both cases u would have 20% chance to lose, witch is not small chance.

And the other question? Which is the one that matters.

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Yes it changed outcome BUT NOT UR CHANCE TO WIN!

Well we know the result of the roll had 0 chance to win as I lost. But had the error not happened my chance would have been different because it would have been a different roll.

Again, where is the explanation for this error and why did it interfere in my betting.

No ur chance to win on that bet was 80% not 0, also would been 80% if error did not occur . And in both cases u would have 20% chance to lose, witch is not small chance.

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Quote from: spixel on March 24, 2014, 08:28:03 AM

Yes it changed outcome BUT NOT UR CHANCE TO WIN!

Well we know the result of the roll had 0 chance to win as I lost. But had the error not happened my chance would have been different because it would have been a different roll.

Again, where is the explanation for this error and why did it interfere in my betting.

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Yes it changed outcome BUT NOT UR CHANCE TO WIN!

@RGBkey, i don't think that primedice gives that error to stop u from betting. They can't afford to cheat.
And still he cant prove that he got error and not just refreshed page coz he wanted to.

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Quote from: MICRO on March 24, 2014, 08:25:48 AM

Quote from: spixel on March 24, 2014, 08:12:59 AM

Quote from: MICRO on March 24, 2014, 08:25:48 AM

No I cant tell the future but the outcome would have been different had it not happened (because the seed would not have changed) and that's all that matters.

I had small plans when I deposited and things were going well until the error threw me off and resulted in a quick and nasty bust. Not a fair way for me to have lost my btc.

Whether or not the former seed you used would have won or not is irrelevant. You knowingly took the risk to gamble with your money - and you lost. All that matters is that Stunna did not intentionally cheat you of a win (ie faking results/using known server and client combinations). Unless your claiming that he is not probably fair (ie that the rolls are correct given a specific client and server seed) then you don't have legs to stand on in this argument.

But I would not have bet if I knew the seed had been changed so the bets were not fair. There was no mention after the error that it had been changed. Like it says on primedice, the client seed is very important in your roll results.

I still have no explanation why this error happened. How do I know it was harmless? It happened at the worst possible time considering my past betting patterns (after 3x loss on 80%) Normally I would go all in at this time but the error just froze my betting.

Patterns doesn't exist , 3x loss on 80% DOESN'T improve ur chance of wining 4th bet. That is only gamblers fallacy.
And it doesn't warn u about seed change, coz it doesn't matter at all. Yes it will change outcome of that bet, but it will not change ur chance of wining that bet. U had same chance of wining it , without seed change or with it. And it had effect only on ur first bet after refresh, was that won or lost ? On bets after that MANY things had effect, but smallest effect had that seed change.

Make peace with it already, it was not pd fault u lost that 12th bet. And that is 100% true. U can do provably fair, to prove that and that is it! And i can guarantee u 100% that u will not get ur money back. So just be done with it.
I say again i am sorry for ur loss but what u asking here is just ridiculous , and we spammed this thread way to much talking nonsense.

What is ur name, or id on pd ?

Gamblers fallacy is irrelevant, if the error affected my betting it affected it. If it changes the outcome, the chance is changed... micro your opinion is just wrong. The client seed completely changed the outcome of all my rolls afterwards. I do not know what would have happened if it didn't occur. I likely would have gone all in at 80% at that time.

Micro is right. It changed the outcome, but the chance was still the same. However, this is not the case if primedice is doing this maliciously, which is entirely possible.

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Quote from: spixel on March 24, 2014, 08:12:59 AM

Quote from: spixel on March 24, 2014, 08:12:59 AM

No I cant tell the future but the outcome would have been different had it not happened (because the seed would not have changed) and that's all that matters.

I had small plans when I deposited and things were going well until the error threw me off and resulted in a quick and nasty bust. Not a fair way for me to have lost my btc.

Whether or not the former seed you used would have won or not is irrelevant. You knowingly took the risk to gamble with your money - and you lost. All that matters is that Stunna did not intentionally cheat you of a win (ie faking results/using known server and client combinations). Unless your claiming that he is not probably fair (ie that the rolls are correct given a specific client and server seed) then you don't have legs to stand on in this argument.

But I would not have bet if I knew the seed had been changed so the bets were not fair. There was no mention after the error that it had been changed. Like it says on primedice, the client seed is very important in your roll results.

I still have no explanation why this error happened. How do I know it was harmless? It happened at the worst possible time considering my past betting patterns (after 3x loss on 80%) Normally I would go all in at this time but the error just froze my betting.

Patterns doesn't exist , 3x loss on 80% DOESN'T improve ur chance of wining 4th bet. That is only gamblers fallacy.
And it doesn't warn u about seed change, coz it doesn't matter at all. Yes it will change outcome of that bet, but it will not change ur chance of wining that bet. U had same chance of wining it , without seed change or with it. And it had effect only on ur first bet after refresh, was that won or lost ? On bets after that MANY things had effect, but smallest effect had that seed change.

Make peace with it already, it was not pd fault u lost that 12th bet. And that is 100% true. U can do provably fair, to prove that and that is it! And i can guarantee u 100% that u will not get ur money back. So just be done with it.
I say again i am sorry for ur loss but what u asking here is just ridiculous , and we spammed this thread way to much talking nonsense.

What is ur name, or id on pd ?

Gamblers fallacy is irrelevant, if the error affected my betting it affected it. Where's the disclaimer saying 'warning we may throw errors on your screen and freeze your betting at any time'

If it changes the outcome, the chance is changed... micro your opinion is just wrong. The client seed completely changed the outcome of all my rolls afterwards. I do not know what would have happened if it didn't occur. I likely would have gone all in at 80% at that time.

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No I cant tell the future but the outcome would have been different had it not happened (because the seed would not have changed) and that's all that matters.

I had small plans when I deposited and things were going well until the error threw me off and resulted in a quick and nasty bust. Not a fair way for me to have lost my btc.

Whether or not the former seed you used would have won or not is irrelevant. You knowingly took the risk to gamble with your money - and you lost. All that matters is that Stunna did not intentionally cheat you of a win (ie faking results/using known server and client combinations). Unless your claiming that he is not probably fair (ie that the rolls are correct given a specific client and server seed) then you don't have legs to stand on in this argument.

But I would not have bet if I knew the seed had been changed so the bets were not fair. There was no mention after the error that it had been changed. Like it says on primedice, the client seed is very important in your roll results.

I still have no explanation why this error happened. How do I know it was harmless? It happened at the worst possible time considering my past betting patterns (after 3x loss on 80%) Normally I would go all in at this time but the error just froze my betting.

Patterns doesn't exist , 3x loss on 80% DOESN'T improve ur chance of wining 4th bet. That is only gamblers fallacy.
And it doesn't warn u about seed change, coz it doesn't matter at all. Yes it will change outcome of that bet, but it will not change ur chance of wining that bet. U had same chance of wining it , without seed change or with it. And it had effect only on ur first bet after refresh, was that won or lost ? On bets after that MANY things had effect, but smallest effect had that seed change.

Make peace with it already, it was not pd fault u lost that 12th bet. And that is 100% true. U can do provably fair, to prove that and that is it! And i can guarantee u 100% that u will not get ur money back. So just be done with it.
I say again i am sorry for ur loss but what u asking here is just ridiculous , and we spammed this thread way to much talking nonsense.

What is ur name, or id on pd ?

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Quote from: Acidyo on March 24, 2014, 07:03:53 AM

No I cant tell the future but the outcome would have been different had it not happened (because the seed would not have changed) and that's all that matters.

I had small plans when I deposited and things were going well until the error threw me off and resulted in a quick and nasty bust. Not a fair way for me to have lost my btc.

Whether or not the former seed you used would have won or not is irrelevant. You knowingly took the risk to gamble with your money - and you lost. All that matters is that Stunna did not intentionally cheat you of a win (ie faking results/using known server and client combinations). Unless your claiming that he is not probably fair (ie that the rolls are correct given a specific client and server seed) then you don't have legs to stand on in this argument.

But I would not have bet if I knew the seed had been changed so the bets were not fair. There was no mention after the error that it had been changed. Like it says on primedice, the client seed is very important in your roll results.

I still have no explanation why this error happened. How do I know it was harmless? It happened at the worst possible time considering my past betting patterns (after 3x loss on 80%) Normally I would go all in at this time but the error just froze my betting. Check the bet id's to see the seed difference

https://primedice.com/modals/bet.html?id=550233153
https://primedice.com/modals/bet.html?id=550233760

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I figured out what is going to kill me.

The suspense of waiting for PD 3. Tongue

Try to live just a little bit longer, its VERY close Wink

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I figured out what is going to kill me.

The suspense of waiting for PD 3. Tongue

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Quote from: spixel on March 23, 2014, 10:02:23 PM

If anyone cares..

Had I done the same amount of bets before going all in after the error, my client seed would have been 7446901-0041

With the same server seed (don't know if this would be the same) the resulting roll would have been 50.38 so I would have won. Either way I still don't believe what happened is fair, the error changed the outcome and I don't think anyone can argue with that.

That is in no way true. Ur server seed is different every bet. That WOULD'T BE THE OUTCOME if client seed would been the same.

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