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Topic: Primedice.com | Since 2013 | Longest Running Crypto Casino | 113 BTC Jackpot! - page 1639. (Read 1989496 times)

legendary
Activity: 3192
Merit: 1279
Primedice.com, Stake.com
Man it has been brutal today. Was something changed? The rolls got slow again.

Working on the roll speed, not sure what slowed them down again. We did get a large volume/amount of bets today though which probably didn't help.
member
Activity: 116
Merit: 10
Man it has been brutal today. Was something changed? The rolls got slow again.
legendary
Activity: 3192
Merit: 1279
Primedice.com, Stake.com
Did you guys make up the loss?

We still have a net loss overall, but we did indeed make a significant profit today.
member
Activity: 116
Merit: 10
Did you guys make up the loss?
legendary
Activity: 3192
Merit: 1279
Primedice.com, Stake.com
CONGRATS STUNNA!!! I see you made 60 BTC off a new player, normally I'd be like "F*** the house" but here I'm actually happy it happened.

Appreciate the support, that's certainly an unusual thing for someone running a casino to hear   Grin
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
What is the problem with the sentence? I was quoting myself to show you the problem AND ROFLMAO THE CLIENT SEED ISN'T BEING RANDOMIZED WITH CRYPTOGRAPHICALY SECURE ALGORITHMS CLIENT SIDE?!?!?!

Way to protect the noobs vets.

Yeah, it's fine.  I was just confused who was saying what there.

As I understand it, the player is responsible for setting the client seed, but I'm not sure.

Did you think the client seed was being randomized client side?  If so, how would your original criticism have been valid at all?  From their verification page it sounds like the user gets to choose both client and server seeds, which is weird.

Here's my post about it, with their answer not far below:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2195522

Just for the fun of it.
I present, the unfair dice game:
http://v20.nl/primedice/

I think your able to change client seed though? I think doog posted about it a bit back. I assumed it just changed every time tbh
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
What is the problem with the sentence? I was quoting myself to show you the problem AND ROFLMAO THE CLIENT SEED ISN'T BEING RANDOMIZED WITH CRYPTOGRAPHICALY SECURE ALGORITHMS CLIENT SIDE?!?!?!

Way to protect the noobs vets.

Yeah, it's fine.  I was just confused who was saying what there.

As I understand it, the player is responsible for setting the client seed, but I'm not sure.

Did you think the client seed was being randomized client side?  If so, how would your original criticism have been valid at all?  From their verification page it sounds like the user gets to choose both client and server seeds, which is weird.

Here's my post about it, with their answer not far below:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2195522

Just for the fun of it.
I present, the unfair dice game:
http://v20.nl/primedice/
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
Vink your at +55....and you just put another 12 in, Dont lose it all man!

Vink take a break at least bro. Just a few days. Get your head straight. I'd hate to see you lose your profit.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500
Acc bought - used solely for signature testing
Vink your at +55....and you just put another 12 in, Dont lose it all man!
member
Activity: 116
Merit: 10
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
Dude Zaih...Vink just lost 40 BTC. his profit is now 61 or so. He keeps redepositing I think.

This is why I'm trying to stay away from prime dice, even if u win you end up giving a lot of it back if not all + more cause its addicting and fun lol...hopefully my own gamble tonight of $1000 on a baseball game wins  Grin

Wow.. I TOLD VINK TO NEVER BET AGAIN. I KNEW IT. Go 3 pages back, I told him never ever bet again. But nop... He goes again.

Tbh knowing him though, he'll be back at 100+ soon. He's got so many coins before PrimeDice too. He owns those chain games which make him heaps of money I believe
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500
Acc bought - used solely for signature testing
Dude Zaih...Vink just lost 40 BTC. his profit is now 61 or so. He keeps redepositing I think.

This is why I'm trying to stay away from prime dice, even if u win you end up giving a lot of it back if not all + more cause its addicting and fun lol...hopefully my own gamble tonight of $1000 on a baseball game wins  Grin
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
CONGRATS STUNNA!!! I see you made 60 BTC off a new player, normally I'd be like "F*** the house" but here I'm actually happy it happened.

EDIT: "Fun" aka Vink is also on a losing streak. He was at +101 BTC yesterday now hes at +77 BTC, we'll see what happens.

Vink will ALWAYS win in the long run, he's insane Cheesy He's the reason I always chuck it in xD.

But yeh Stunna, good job man. I guess all these ad's your paying for are paying off.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500
Acc bought - used solely for signature testing
CONGRATS STUNNA!!! I see you made 60 BTC off a new player, normally I'd be like "F*** the house" but here I'm actually happy it happened.

EDIT: "Fun" aka Vink is also on a losing streak. He was at +101 BTC yesterday now hes at +77 BTC, we'll see what happens.
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
Wow.. -50 BTC profit. Over 9000 BTC bet. I guess that's what happens. At least it could have been worse.. His expected profit over that volume is negative 90 BTC O_o
legendary
Activity: 1611
Merit: 1001
Destro! know when to quit! you were up 30 btc! now you are negative 50!
sr. member
Activity: 285
Merit: 262
Looks like a bot with no or bad logic.  I've seen it jump from ~-5 BTC profit to + 15 pretty regularly.  Farming Prime Points maybe?
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
Woah who's the dude who has bet over 5000 Bitcoins?
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
What is the problem with the sentence? I was quoting myself to show you the problem AND ROFLMAO THE CLIENT SEED ISN'T BEING RANDOMIZED WITH CRYPTOGRAPHICALY SECURE ALGORITHMS CLIENT SIDE?!?!?!

Way to protect the noobs vets.

Yeah, it's fine.  I was just confused who was saying what there.

As I understand it, the player is responsible for setting the client seed, but I'm not sure.

Did you think the client seed was being randomized client side?  If so, how would your original criticism have been valid at all?  From their verification page it sounds like the user gets to choose both client and server seeds, which is weird.

Here's my post about it, with their answer not far below:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2195522
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
I gave you a piece of psuedocode that breaks the current "Provable Fair" algorithm, if they are using it on the server side they have total control over the results but I think you got that by now already, simply don't have an answer.

I didn't read the pseudocode; I didn't get past you quoting yourself and apparently calling yourself a charlatan.  But now I understand.  You weren't replying to yourself, you were repeating something you posted in a different thread.

You seem to be saying that the site can keep trying random server hashes until they find one that makes the player lose, right?

The reason this doesn't work is that they publish the hash of their server secret before the game, and before the player picks the client seed.  If they later change the server seed to make sure they win, its hash won't match the previously published hash.

The problem with the whole scheme is that they make it so hard for the player to change their client seed that the players probably never change it, and so the game is open to abuse.  The server can assume the client seed will remain unchanged and find a server seed that lets them win, then publish its hash before each game.

This will be fixed once it's easy for the players to change their client seed which I think is something Stunna has already said is in the pipeline.

Is it just me (is the problem with me?) or are you (primedice) a charlatan?

What is the problem with the sentence? I was quoting myself to show you the problem AND ROFLMAO THE CLIENT SEED ISN'T BEING RANDOMIZED WITH CRYPTOGRAPHICALY SECURE ALGORITHMS CLIENT SIDE?!?!?!

Way to protect the noobs vets.
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