Topic: Primedice.com | Since 2013 | Longest Running Crypto Casino | 113 BTC Jackpot! - page 360. (Read 1989440 times)

I know you are a 9900x enthusiast but other than the big win of 99x you had in late December i am not sure you won that many high payouts my dear  and that win was one crazy roll.Bottom line is they should have informed every user before the forced seed change and i am sure if there is any changes in the future they will inform.

Probably they won't because every time when a seed change happens unexpectedly the say the same thing. It's just the same story but a different day.

I know you are a 9900x enthusiast but other than the big win of 99x you had in late December i am not sure you won that many high payouts my dear   and that win was one crazy roll.Bottom line is they should have informed every user before the forced seed change and i am sure if there is any changes in the future they will inform.

Okay okay I understand and get that people chasing high payouts can become rather annoyed when its time for a seed change. I myself am a 9900x enthusiast. Nothing greater then turning nickels and dime into coins. Chasing to see how many rolls until that win. and to then to calculate how many rolls in between the next 9900x.

The fact is there should probably be more random forced seed changes for security purposes and notify uses that are currently active of the change. That doesn't change provably fair nor gives reason to accuse pd of scamming.

Primedice does not need another HufflePuff attempt! Way to handle the situation primedice. Kudos

Yes and no. Bets aren't related to the previous roll, but they are dependent on the seeds.

Remember that PD uses a nonce based system. So 1 server seed and 1 client seed for millions of bets. You hash 1:serverseed:clientseed and get your first roll, then you hash 2:serverseed:client seed and get your second roll.

So maybe this guy was at roll 100 and that would have been 77.77, and 101 would coincidentally also be 77.77. But PD has now changed the server seed and the nonce resets to 1. So now you're hashing 1:serverseed2:clientseed which will most likely result in a new number. The moment you pick your server seed and client seed, PD knows what each and every roll is going to be until you randomize again, and these rolls can't change (that's what makes them provably fair) unless the seeds are changed. Which happened, without the users consent, which stops making it provably fair.


This means, someone can take their last seeds that was forcibly changed by PD, and generate the numbers he would have gotten if he continued betting with that seed and say: My strategy has been high on reverse martingale for the last 1000 bets. the next 15 bets I should have placed would all have been wins. PD changed my seed so I wouldn't win 20 bitcoin with those bets. And it would be valid (because it is in PDs capabilities to predict this, even if they don't do it) until PD provides us with an acceptable reason for changing the seeds.


Edit: To be clear, I'm not trying to say that pd is scamming or that they cheated. I'm trying to explain why it is important that PD tells us why the seeds were changed. I would advise everyone to wait for an explanation and not jump to conclusions.

We rotated off access of our prior developer as he has moved on and reset seeds for security reasons. There should have been proper notice of the seed  change, I was traveling and just found out about this. My apologies for this inconvenience, I understand a lot of players play small bet long term strategies, this may change the outcome for better or worse but I insist this will not change the odds. This is something we typically do 2-3 times a year (usually when we change hosts) but will give better notice in the future. Again, sorry if this has inconvenienced you. This was unprofessional on our part.

On the other hand....


Happy hour just started!

Forcing seed changes without notification is a breach of provably fairness. He could have just had an amazing streak, or hit two 77.77s in a row for the rumored (still no official announcement on that) jackpot, but now pds changed his seeds and in effect his rolls, and possibly made him lose.

I understand that sometimes it's necessary for pd to change seeds in case there was some security issue, and I have no problem with it. But, doing so without a proper explanation is not OK. Tell us why the seeds were changed or anyone claiming that they would have won 200 coins in the next 10 rolls (after verifying his rolls and checking the upcoming rolls) has a valid reason for claiming PD scammed.


I wouldn't go as far as claiming that PD did cheat just yet. I'm sure this was a security related issue. I'd suggest waiting for an explanation from Stunna or some other official body of the site before jumping to conclusions.

I don't know that yet joey/jewy he still has to come online   You can check it by verifying the rolls since when we set a new seed the hidden server seed will get revealed and all outcomes will be known.

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Sorry for the off topic,
"how many rolls he was from hitting"

How can you know that?

20k rolls on 9900x try 95k rolls on 9900x from one of the regular players. then you feel screwed as hell by primedice and this is not the first time. When he comes online I will ask him directly if he checked his seed and how many rolls he was from hitting it and I know he was only rolling with 0.0005. So I wonder about this.