Topic: PrimeNumber7 is an alt of Quickseller, Take 2 - page 6. (Read 4404 times)

In addition to ibminer's words, this is a great reason, and there exists others as well which I am more or less reluctant to share at the moment for the sake of the people affected by it.


I am also of this opinion, and perhaps the lack of leaving a negative is a good incentive for him to try to turn a corner. On the other hand, there's no escaping the fact that this is his alt (whoops, guess I called it a "fact"), and every time I see PN7 post I just think to myself, "why not just post this under your Quickseller account?" Whenever he replies to me in other threads, its just kind of insulting to my intelligence that he expects me to just continue pretending they're not the same person when (IMO) they so obviously are.

I don't think anyone has claimed it as a fact, but numerous people independently came to the conclusion that they were very likely the same which says a lot and is a pretty big coincidence. I guess we could all be suffering from mass delusion and seeing something that isn't there or just some huge coincidences but I doubt it. It's not a fact that he's QS, but it is very likely. People probably shouldn't be leaving negative over it, but at the same time the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming and I would say they are almost certainly the same person so maybe that's a good enough reason for others if they've already left QS negative. A neutral warning however is more appropriate in my opinion.


This is a petty dispute, but it's one that has been propagated by both sides and will likely continue unless they call a truce, but these tit-for-tat exposes aren't uncommon here and there have been plenty of times where grudges have caused users to try take each other down in anyway they can. I guess if you're of the opinion that QS is shady/dishonest or a scammer then I guess it is important to those people to call it out just like alts of other scammers are tagged as such.


Again, I guess it all depends on what your opinion of QS is. If you think he's a scammer or shady then that's probably why they feel the need to warn others. If PN7 is trying to build that account up to get it into a position of trust or start things like escrowing again then to some people that is probably a cause for alarm, but of course a lot of this will be fuelled by their dislike of him and which I don't blame them for either and I believe it was QS rubbing people the wrong way that started all this in the first place, and then of course there was all the attacking he did on that account and with alts that certainly pissed a lot of people off. I don't particularly trust Quickseller, especially after his behaviour in attacking anyone associated in some minuscule way to the users he doesn't like, and I'm not entirely sure what his motivations are here; honest or potentially nefarious, but I wouldn't out and out call him a scammer or a bad person either. His intentions could have always been just to build accounts up to honestly earn a living, which I wouldn't blame him for, or to get an account into a position of trust to do something bad with it. I guess we'll probably never know, but unless people are willing to forget about things that happened in the past and call a truce then I think this sort of tit for tat behaviour is going to continue forever.

Funny you should ask that.

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.


Apply a Groucho Marx mask, and:

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.


If someone whom I explicitly distrust disguised himself and tricked me into trusting him, I would want to know.  I would also admit my mistake, rectify it, and move on with life.  I wouldn't deflect blame for my error onto those who exposed the disguise.  Not even if those messengers were people with whom I've had a history of disagreements.

I thought about it. I still wouldn't trust him at all as there are many shitty things he's done to numerous people, so while I'm sure Lauda appreciates the apology it doesn't make Quickseller "reasonable" by any means.

It's not really a federal case so maybe that's why you're not getting an answer.

We don't need the thread to spin into a new direction, again, TECSHARE.

The thread ("PrimeNumber7 is an alt of Quickseller") seems to be ending, as most are in agreement that it is highly likely to be Quickseller's alt, and many would say it is his alt. If you want to start debating whether Quickseller and his new alt are trustworthy or not, why not start a new thread?

Now since you brought it up, let's think about this for a few minutes... what behaviors got QuickSeller into trouble in the first place? and now, what behaviors is he exhibiting right now?

.. hint: it's the same: lying, being deceitful, dishonesty, and then harassing other members (something you always claim you are so against, but you are OK with Quickseller doing it -- hypocrisy).

One does not get a second chance by acting the same way he did back then. He just wants to be on DT and saw an opportunity with the latest trust changes, got caught, and is trying to weasel his way out of it.. and failing miserably.

IMO, DT is no place for someone like Quickseller who is still exhibiting his dishonest and greedy nature, and I believe that was the goal with this alt, to make it on DT.

Sadly, he hasn't learned.

Lately Quickseller has been acting more reasonably than you. Think on that for a few minutes. I still haven't got anyone to answer me on why exactly this needs to be made into a federal case. What exactly is Quickseller up to that needs to be exposed so imminently?

False. Your reputation is being damaged by your sleazy sockpuppeting but the good news is that there are some people who don't care and will be happy to trust you regardless. So carry on.

It appears that someone is especially petty and vindictive today.

I’m curious how many other reputations you have damaged via proxies as you did in this case.

Why is it so important to tie these two accounts together? What crimes exactly is this preventing? This is about nothing but petty interpersonal disputes, and the fact that Suchmoon can't document any earlier claims after trying to pretend it wasn't them just solidifies this fact. I like the touch of "NO U" you added as well. Very slick.

Why is it so important to identify who was the first documented accuser?  So far at least five members have come forward and claimed to have independently arrived at the same conclusions, all around the same time.  Why is that so hard to accept?

I've said it before; the evidence is all circumstantial, but in combination an overwhelming amount of circumstantial evidence can be compelling.  If you disagree, debunk the evidence.  Don't attempt to deflect, and levy an accusation on the person(s) presenting the evidence.  I know you've had long running disputes with both nutildah and suchmoon, but it is possible for them to right from time to time, even if you think they are wrong most of the time.

The only one jumping around is you in a desperate attempt to topic slide and hope people will be distracted from what I am bringing attention to, that you are so far the first one documented to have made the accusation as you pretend it originated elsewhere. More NO U eh?

It's really hard to see what you mean when you keep jumping around like a rabbit on cocaine. So first it was my trust rating from July last year that you had a problem with. Is DireWolfM14's independently arisen suspicion from June last year also a problem?

If you had done your due diligence when you added PN7 and if you had asked me about that feedback, you could have had your tantrum months ago and possibly avoided the embarrassment today.

See what I mean? A bunch of pals just sit around and reaffirm each others suspicions then just pretend it is fact without ever substantiating anything. Have enough people repeat it, then you can just pretend it is accepted truth. This is a tactic called "manufacturing consensus", and it is a well known methodology for managing narratives such as done in propaganda, marketing, and public relations.

I was waiting for him to suggest that I may have planted the seed, and be elevated to Jedi status.  No such luck?  Oh well.  I suspect I might be on his "ignore" list as well, since he hasn't responded to me in weeks.

That's why you're on TECSHARE's shitlist too - you think too much.


That's way above my pay grade, I'm a beginner Jedi with simple tricks. I say "scammer", you think "Quickseller".

I too suspected that PrimeNumber7 was an alt of an active member almost immediately after noticing him.  In fact I sent suchmoon a PM on June 20, 2019 expressing my suspicion that it was Quckseller.  At the time I had noticed a few newbie accounts that raised my suspicions, including some that were registered in prior years who had only recently woken up.



Is this the Jedi Mind Trick's equivalent of revers psychology?

Believe it or not (I have a feeling you won't) but there were other people who suspected that PN7 is QS without my help. If I'm not mistaken nutildah himself figured it out on his own.

But if the Jedi theory makes it easier for you to cope - stick to it.

No, that is only a response to your most recent last ditch attempt at distracting from you pretending these accusations just appeared out of the ether and didn't come from you to begin with.

Isn't that what you and figment have been trying to do for the last couple of pages? Not a lot of discussion as to whether PN7 is an alt of QS, mostly just complaints about how those suspicions came up.

I don't mind that (preferably in a separate thread) but let's be real as to what you're after. You don't care or you don't want to admit you misjudged PN7 and you need a scapegoat. Well, I'm your man (or woman if you trust PN7), find me some crimes I'm guilty of.

Which will undoubtedly start with “..rant rave blah blah ...nutilduhhhhhhhhhhh...show me the man l’ll show you the crime.... blah blah ...etc, etc....”