Whoever shot Ashli is not police because they are on here side of the door as clearly seen (warning graphic)
https://twitter.com/i/status/1347094167411806211
Selfies with police
https://twitter.com/i/status/1347031398176223233
Trump supporter fighting with antifa guy (uniform and helmet)
https://twitter.com/TheRightMelissa/status/1347040212602466304?s=09
buses transporting antia
https://youtu.be/pRJiB5GfhXM
Topic: Pro-Trump rioters breach Capitol, forcing lockdown; one person shot... - page 7. (Read 1565 times)
January 07, 2021, 08:40:38 AM
January 07, 2021, 07:56:32 AM
I can't believe this happened. I'm guessing there are going to be some big changes with regards to security practices and politics. It's really hard to believe that today's events can take place in America today. It's almost like someone is trying to scare politicians into signing some massive spending bills to put in lots of fancy new security systems in government buildings. I'm not sure I believe this could happen by accident.
January 07, 2021, 07:15:10 AM
he should be employing people who have in-depth knowledge of the law.
None of those people want to represent him as they all know he has no case, which is why he wound up with who he did.
Yes and No.
Pretty sure that in the beginning of this case the thought process around it was that they were going to try to raise as much money as possible around it. At a certain point in time though Trump really did begin to believe all of the bullshit that people were spewing and thought that there was really no way that he could’ve lost without fraud + his supporters ate all of this up and people believed that there’s no way he could’ve lost.
This opened up a prime opportunity for him to stir up shit and try to really overturn the results. By this point though, he was just swarmed by his most loyal confidants and there was no one who was going to help him in his quest to overturn a free and fair election besides the people that convinced him it was a good idea.
As I say in other threads, lot of speculation going on in my own head here. Let me know if I sound crazy.
January 07, 2021, 05:58:32 AM
I watched this on CNN yesterday and all I heard was "insurrection" "domestic terrorism" "violent rioters" yet I didn't see any buildings in flames afterwards or mass casualties as would be expected from such activities...like the riots in Portland and other places around the US recently.Maybe the flames are being stoked from BOTH sides?
January 07, 2021, 04:33:56 AM
You mean some people were invited in to have a look around
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/krx7yw/the_police_opened_the_gates_for_capitol_rioters/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Or was security simply overpowered by aged ladys
Or this actor https://ibb.co/SnsfxBV (somethimes seen with horns)
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/krx7yw/the_police_opened_the_gates_for_capitol_rioters/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Or was security simply overpowered by aged ladys
Or this actor https://ibb.co/SnsfxBV (somethimes seen with horns)
January 07, 2021, 03:31:54 AM
he should be employing people who have in-depth knowledge of the law.
None of those people want to represent him as they all know he has no case, which is why he would up with who he did.
When I look at what happened in Washing D.C yesterday as foreigner who lives thousand miles away from USA and has little understanding of American Democratic system, it is reflection of divide between Politicians and Establishment. The democratic system is cracking and it is failing to deliver what people expect from it. Covid-19 has not only severely damaged US Economy but also its Social Fabric. Today America is not what it was yesterday.
January 07, 2021, 02:55:48 AM
SIGH.
Rudy Giuliani was trying to call Senator Tuberville (R-AL) and asking him to object to more states in the electoral certification to buy them more time, the only problem was that he called the wrong Senator and the person that he called shared the audio with the media.
What the fuck kind of clownshow coup is this.
So Trump has an idiot legal team. He should not be employing celebrity lawyers, he should be employing people who have in-depth knowledge of the law. Rudy Giuliani was trying to call Senator Tuberville (R-AL) and asking him to object to more states in the electoral certification to buy them more time, the only problem was that he called the wrong Senator and the person that he called shared the audio with the media.
What the fuck kind of clownshow coup is this.
If Trump does end up getting prosecuted, my bet is that Giuliani ends up having his fingerprints on the case.
Yes.
Celebrity lawyers made sense when this whole thing was about generating hype and raising as much money as possible. Not making any sense at all when your goal is to truly try to stay in office as long as possible.
I’d say the reason for this is that Trump trusts Giuliani as he’s been one of the longest serving advisors to him during this time (in an official, and unofficial capacity) and he is one of the people who probably still tells him that he still has a shot at pulling this all off, even when he doesn’t.
Plus ya know, I highly doubt any legal firms want to take up undermining democracy for some money. Seems like an easy way to be shunned from a lot of establishment people because of horrible PR.
January 07, 2021, 02:24:35 AM
This nonsense should be condemned in the strongest way possible.
This could be charged as terrorism i imagine?
January 07, 2021, 01:07:03 AM
SIGH.
Rudy Giuliani was trying to call Senator Tuberville (R-AL) and asking him to object to more states in the electoral certification to buy them more time, the only problem was that he called the wrong Senator and the person that he called shared the audio with the media.
What the fuck kind of clownshow coup is this.
So Trump has an idiot legal team. He should not be employing celebrity lawyers, he should be employing people who have in-depth knowledge of the law. Rudy Giuliani was trying to call Senator Tuberville (R-AL) and asking him to object to more states in the electoral certification to buy them more time, the only problem was that he called the wrong Senator and the person that he called shared the audio with the media.
What the fuck kind of clownshow coup is this.
If Trump does end up getting prosecuted, my bet is that Giuliani ends up having his fingerprints on the case.
January 07, 2021, 12:59:18 AM
SIGH.
Rudy Giuliani was trying to call Senator Tuberville (R-AL) and asking him to object to more states in the electoral certification to buy them more time, the only problem was that he called the wrong Senator and the person that he called shared the audio with the media.
What the fuck kind of clownshow coup is this.
https://twitter.com/loopemma/status/1347023450607648771?s=10 - Tweet (Source)
https://youtu.be/eJIeB8h3AMM - Direct Audio
Rudy Giuliani was trying to call Senator Tuberville (R-AL) and asking him to object to more states in the electoral certification to buy them more time, the only problem was that he called the wrong Senator and the person that he called shared the audio with the media.
What the fuck kind of clownshow coup is this.
https://twitter.com/loopemma/status/1347023450607648771?s=10 - Tweet (Source)
https://youtu.be/eJIeB8h3AMM - Direct Audio
January 07, 2021, 12:40:26 AM
There were too many irregularities in the election for Trump supporters to believe the election was fair.
If you don't want this kind of nonsense, both sides should play by the rules.
If you don't want this kind of nonsense, both sides should play by the rules.
So you're basically saying that democrats ran the election? Sad that you are still clinging to the lies of this charlatan in light of his recent actions, which have overwhelmingly exposed his malevolent fraudulence beyond any shadow of a doubt.
Everybody with any sort of actual expertise or official capacity within the scope of the election has said that Trump lost. You are overriding all of this to continue believing in someone who was known to be a pathological liar well before he ever took office. This approaches the very definition of insanity.
Trump's legal team was especially bad, as was his messaging. if either was halfway decent, he would have had a shot of the Presidency in the next term.
January 07, 2021, 12:37:55 AM
Pro-Trump rioters breach Capitol, forcing lockdown; one person shot; Pence evacuated, Senate chamber cleared out
Some serious shit happening there. I wonder how will it end. I think USA has just passed the point of no returns.
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WASHINGTON — Chaos erupted in the nation's capital as supporters of President Donald Trump swarmed the Capitol building, prompting Vice President Mike Pence to be swept to a secure location and the Senate chamber to be evacuated.
The Associated Press reported that one person was shot and taken to a hospital.
According to multiple media reports, the entire Washington, D.C., national guard has been activated.
The Associated Press reported that one person was shot and taken to a hospital.
According to multiple media reports, the entire Washington, D.C., national guard has been activated.
Some serious shit happening there. I wonder how will it end. I think USA has just passed the point of no returns.
With all the crap that the U.S has gone through and you think this is the end? this is just another day in america buddy, and are we really going to blame trump after he said this - "I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!" - twitter trump
January 06, 2021, 11:51:18 PM
Really is a horrible thing when the party of ‘law and order’ are breaching the Capitol and acting like what they’re doing is fine. Not sure if they understand the irony of calling Antifa a terrorist organization and referring to BLM as the same.
They literally stormed the capitol, broke through doors, attacked police, defaced areas, and so on and so forth. Same thing that they referred to as criminals.
Totally, though there is something a bit different when it comes to raiding the US capitol compared to rioting in the streets and destroying buildings and such. Both events are totally horrible and it’s not okay at all, though I think it is a bit more severe when it happens in the US capitol. May disagree with me there, though I think what I’m saying makes some sense.
Yeah no, Trumpies are not conservatives by any means. They’re just followers of Trump and what he says and does. They do not adhere to traditional conservative / republicans policies at all. Weird.
They literally stormed the capitol, broke through doors, attacked police, defaced areas, and so on and so forth. Same thing that they referred to as criminals.
I don't think the U.S. is on the path towards reconciliation and this was clear when Trump got elected in 2016. Trump is a symptom of the division and polarization, not the cause. The Trump supporters that stormed the building are akin to the radicals we saw in June that set buildings on fire so it is not better to be doing the same violent behavior that was universally condemned back in June from everyone on the right. Trump is responsible for riling up his rabid far right base, this should not have happened. From what I gather though, it does seem like democrats are slightly more enraged at the events taking place today than they were when BLM were mass looting and rioting for months straight resulting in 30+ people dead over the summer. To each their own, I guess.
I'm not too sure what the path forward is. I don't think the average far right Trump supporter is a conservative. They seem to have adopted their own brand of conservatism and created "Trumpism". This means you'll have politicians abandon conservative values and constitutional principles to appease the Trump base for their votes -- see Ted Cruz who nearly committed political suicide today which forced him to immediately tweet condemnations of the rioting. You can bet when he runs in 2024 he'll be asked why contested the election results which resulted in the US Capitol to be invaded. He'll have 3 years to think of an answer though.
2021 may not be it, 2022 here we come!
I'm not too sure what the path forward is. I don't think the average far right Trump supporter is a conservative. They seem to have adopted their own brand of conservatism and created "Trumpism". This means you'll have politicians abandon conservative values and constitutional principles to appease the Trump base for their votes -- see Ted Cruz who nearly committed political suicide today which forced him to immediately tweet condemnations of the rioting. You can bet when he runs in 2024 he'll be asked why contested the election results which resulted in the US Capitol to be invaded. He'll have 3 years to think of an answer though.
2021 may not be it, 2022 here we come!
Totally, though there is something a bit different when it comes to raiding the US capitol compared to rioting in the streets and destroying buildings and such. Both events are totally horrible and it’s not okay at all, though I think it is a bit more severe when it happens in the US capitol. May disagree with me there, though I think what I’m saying makes some sense.
Yeah no, Trumpies are not conservatives by any means. They’re just followers of Trump and what he says and does. They do not adhere to traditional conservative / republicans policies at all. Weird.
January 06, 2021, 10:26:28 PM
Later today both Facebook and Twitter DELETED the President’s call for peace.
trump banned from facebook for 24 hours
trump banned from twitter for 12 hours
congress/pence rumouring to invoke section 4 of 25th amendment.. to remove trump from office.
what i find funny is that trump made the order saying people should go to capital hill. but his wording was that "we" should do. he even said how HE would go there.. yet while his loyal fangirls went their under his order. he went in the different direction and went home.
he used you fangirls like puppets
if he was such a tough guy. such a leader. he would have walked to capital hill.
if he was such a responsible guy that wanted to delay congress HE should have gone into congress and started singing and dancing around and doing things to cause disruption himself.. just him.
but no. he instead wanted to stand back and let his loyal fangirls take the blame and shame and get in trouble and hurt.
such a callus, self centred man
January 06, 2021, 10:11:43 PM
Some say that the ones who broke into the Capitol are not Trump supporters, but Antifa, disguised as Trump supporters. We'll probably never know the truth...
Yeah, the 45 year old balding white guys with beer bellies and breath that smells like miller lite were really just some 24 year old antifa punks. Let's be real, these were Trump supporters and people on the far right. I'm usually one to defend people on the right because they tend to be treated unfairly, but this entire charade is a dark day for Republicans and the country.
Why do you think all Antifa or BLM are young? The guy with horns is probably a BLM protester from Arizona...
Some people say the violence was triggered by the DC police, who may have been ordered to suddenly go hard on peaceful protesters.
Trump tweeted:
“I know your pain. I know you’re hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election and everyone knows it, especially the other side. But you have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order. We don’t want anybody hurt. It’s a very tough period of time. There’s never been a time like this where such a thing happened where they could take it away from all of us–from me, from you, from our country. This was a fraudulent election, but we can’t play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace. So go home. We love you. You’re very special. You’ve seen what happens. You see they way others are treated that are so bad and so evil. I know how you feel. But go home. And go home in peace.”
I was half joking but even Andy Ngo, who is good about reporting antifa activity, says there is no evidence that antifa is behind this. It isn't hard to believe. Trump was stoking the flames and the fire got out of control.
January 06, 2021, 08:56:03 PM
“I know your pain. I know you’re hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election and everyone knows it, especially the other side. But you have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order. We don’t want anybody hurt. It’s a very tough period of time. There’s never been a time like this where such a thing happened where they could take it away from all of us–from me, from you, from our country. This was a fraudulent election, but we can’t play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace. So go home. We love you. You’re very special. You’ve seen what happens. You see they way others are treated that are so bad and so evil. I know how you feel. But go home. And go home in peace.”
Later today both Facebook and Twitter DELETED the President’s call for peace.
Later today both Facebook and Twitter DELETED the President’s call for peace.
democrats didnt order that woman to storm the capital
but look at trump blaming the democrats for people being in pain and hurt.
so there it is. proof. trump wont take responsibility. i guess that woman is not going to get a presidential funeral or compensation.
trump played this same game last summer. ordering people to liberate certain states.. then HE called in the military. people got hurt. and he blamed HIS loyal people by calling them rioters
January 06, 2021, 08:37:48 PM
This nonsense should be condemned in the strongest way possible.
I can't say that I am surprised though. The credibility of enforcing the law was lost over the summer when BLM rioters were allowed to riot and loot without consequence. There were too many irregularities in the election for Trump supporters to believe the election was fair.
If you don't want this kind of nonsense, both sides should play by the rules.
I can't say that I am surprised though. The credibility of enforcing the law was lost over the summer when BLM rioters were allowed to riot and loot without consequence. There were too many irregularities in the election for Trump supporters to believe the election was fair.
If you don't want this kind of nonsense, both sides should play by the rules.
January 06, 2021, 08:24:17 PM
“I know your pain. I know you’re hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election and everyone knows it, especially the other side. But you have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order. We don’t want anybody hurt. It’s a very tough period of time. There’s never been a time like this where such a thing happened where they could take it away from all of us–from me, from you, from our country. This was a fraudulent election, but we can’t play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace. So go home. We love you. You’re very special. You’ve seen what happens. You see they way others are treated that are so bad and so evil. I know how you feel. But go home. And go home in peace.”
Later today both Facebook and Twitter DELETED the President’s call for peace.
Later today both Facebook and Twitter DELETED the President’s call for peace.
January 06, 2021, 08:19:13 PM
Oathbreakers killed an unarmed woman. Stop blaming Trump for her death. When some criminal got killed by the police, there were riots, and Democrats endorsed those.
she went there under trumps orders.in military. if your killed under orders of your chief. you get a military funeral and your family get compensation..
lets see if trump acts as a chief. or as a denier
Trump's orders? What are you smoking? I should probably mean what are you watching... Trump didn't tell anyone to storm the Capitol.
People were pissed off by VP Pence's betrayal, plus the harassment by the DC police. The situation escalated suspiciously quickly.
January 06, 2021, 08:11:48 PM
Oathbreakers killed an unarmed woman. Stop blaming Trump for her death. When some criminal got killed by the police, there were riots, and Democrats endorsed those.
she went there under trumps orders.in military. if your killed under orders of your chief. you get a military funeral and your family get compensation..
lets see if trump acts as a chief. or as a denier
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