Topic: Pro-Trump rioters breach Capitol, forcing lockdown; one person shot... - page 8. (Read 1565 times)

Oathbreakers killed an unarmed woman. Stop blaming Trump for her death. When some criminal got killed by the police, there were riots, and Democrats endorsed those.

ok so trump requested his fangirls to walk into capital hill and mess with the process.,

well lets translate this to the idiots

trump ordered his warriors to invade capital hill. one of his warriors got shot.
so the question is will trump give that woman a warriors funeral and compensate the family

now lets explain this in normal english
trumps actions caused a womans death via his orders. will trump take responsibility. or will he denounce his association with his fangirl.
will he blame her and say he had nothing to do with it.
will he destroy his own loyal fanbase just to avoid taking personal responsibility for his actions

what you will find out is trump will not take responsibility for his actions. yes he asked people to risk their own health and life and criminal record. but after trump gets the chaos he wants he will hide from responsibility. leaving his fans to fend for themselves alone. being arrested, charged, or worse shot. and trump wont even help them

trump is not your friend he does not care about you.he just cares about create chaos at your expense
dont risk your life or possible future criminal record on a guy that wont take responsibility

I totally called it: 

The D.C. police is notoriously weak, and it was well-known that armed protesters were going to flood the area, so this isn't surprising at all. And Trump is acting like a complete idiot, as usual. His statements (ie. almost supporting the violence) put him right on the line of having people actually be able to credibly come after him for treason, and there is no endgame whatsoever: it's all just self-destructive, childlike narcissism. A popular, competent, and/or well-connected leader would've had some chance of actually succeeding in a coup, or maybe exploiting the confusion to get sufficient public support to stay in power. But Trump is neither popular, nor competent, nor well-connected, and he's a few more stupid words away from the point where the National Guard of the surrounding states are going to come in and arrest him.

I'm no Trump hater -- the Russiagate stuff was nonsense, and grading on a curve I'd say that Trump's presidency has been pretty good --, but he's clearly lost his mind, and Republican politicians who continue to go along with him are committing political suicide. Trump formed a strong, loyal coalition among evangelicals, economic conservatives, social conservatives, the working class, and nutcases, but now all but the nutcases have abandoned him. He no longer has a strong, useful base that politicians should covet. Someone needs to make an image macro of that scene from that Batman movie where Bane is "crashing this plane with no survivors", and he sacrifices one of his own minions; replace the minion's face with Ted Cruz, and Bane's with Trump's.


US politics is on a trajectory that is unsustainable and will eventually collapse, but I think that this is more of a symptom of that than anything that will change that trajectory one way or another. It will have a major impact on politics, but things will be mostly back to normal in a few months. This won't actually disrupt Biden taking power or anything.

The longer this lasts, the worse things will be for Trump and Republicans. But even if Trump literally throws his support behind an armed coup (which will inevitably fail), it won't be the end of the Republican party forever or anything.

There is not much to wonder about. Invading the Capitol building doesn't automatically grant the right to usurp power. Rioters will be pushed back, some arrests are likely, reinforcements will arrive, Congress will continue certifying the electoral college votes, and the party of "law and order" will continue its hypocrisy by supporting the wannabe dictator.

Why do you think all Antifa or BLM are young? The guy with horns is probably a BLM protester from Arizona...
Some people say the violence was triggered by the DC police, who may have been ordered to suddenly go hard on peaceful protesters.

Trump tweeted:
“I know your pain. I know you’re hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election and everyone knows it, especially the other side. But you have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order. We don’t want anybody hurt. It’s a very tough period of time. There’s never been a time like this where such a thing happened where they could take it away from all of us–from me, from you, from our country. This was a fraudulent election, but we can’t play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace. So go home. We love you. You’re very special. You’ve seen what happens. You see they way others are treated that are so bad and so evil. I know how you feel. But go home. And go home in peace.”

Yeah, the 45 year old balding white guys with beer bellies and breath that smells like miller lite were really just some 24 year old antifa punks. Let's be real, these were Trump supporters and people on the far right. I'm usually one to defend people on the right because they tend to be treated unfairly, but this entire charade is a dark day for Republicans and the country.

Some say that the ones who broke into the Capitol are not Trump supporters, but Antifa, disguised as Trump supporters. We'll probably never know the truth...

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The mainstream media has normalized Antifa and BLM violence for months, and as I write this the protest has not been about looting, and settings things on fire.
What Democrats don't understand is that the mostly peaceful protest is not just about Trump, it's about having free and fair elections, it's about not becoming a banana republic.

I don't think the U.S. is on the path towards reconciliation and this was clear when Trump got elected in 2016. Trump is a symptom of the division and polarization, not the cause. The Trump supporters that stormed the building are akin to the radicals we saw in June that set buildings on fire so it is not better to be doing the same violent behavior that was universally condemned back in June from everyone on the right. Trump is responsible for riling up his rabid far right base, this should not have happened. From what I gather though, it does seem like democrats are slightly more enraged at the events taking place today than they were when BLM were mass looting and rioting for months straight resulting in 30+ people dead over the summer. To each their own, I guess.

I'm not too sure what the path forward is. I don't think the average far right Trump supporter is a conservative. They seem to have adopted their own brand of conservatism and created "Trumpism". This means you'll have politicians abandon conservative values and constitutional principles to appease the Trump base for their votes -- see Ted Cruz who nearly committed political suicide today which forced him to immediately tweet condemnations of the rioting. You can bet when he runs in 2024 he'll be asked why contested the election results which resulted in the US Capitol to be invaded. He'll have 3 years to think of an answer though.

2021 may not be it, 2022 here we come!

Pro-Trump rioters breach Capitol, forcing lockdown; one person shot; Pence evacuated, Senate chamber cleared out


Some serious shit happening there. I wonder how will it end. I think USA has just passed the point of no returns.