Proof that Freebitco.in game is not provably fair. - page 3.

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Quote from: desertfox470 on April 07, 2020, 10:36:56 PM

While it is unlikely I don't see it as being impossible. It's kind of like losing a bunch of hands in bj. Sure it's highly unlikely to lose that many rolls in a row, but I'm sure a major amount or rolls every day are done on the site that would make abnormalities like this happen possibly.

He just haven't realized that even getting 100times red in a row is a normal thing in gambling especially if you do the martingale, sayonara.

And you know what you can get 5 green in a row on 30x multiplier! I've experienced it. Isn't it sounds like unfair?
Unfortunately that's gambling.

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Quote from: iv4n on April 08, 2020, 02:56:00 AM

Quote from: soloasi on April 07, 2020, 06:14:24 PM

You can calculate if your number is the one they said it was...

IF thres anyone who has an old account of this site (freebitco.in, and i mean OLD, like under the USER ID: 600000) and dont use it, i would like to buy it, anyone interested send me and MP Grin

My account there is old, but not that much. User ID 1.535.000!

For people who wish to check hash and calculate number https://dicesites.com/provably-fair. Anyone can follow the steps and check any hash from any dice site. It was interesting for me to check hashes here and there in the beginning, but I don't do it anymore. Gambling is gambling, if you don't believe in casino choose another, if you need to check them all the time what's the point in that?!

Mine is quite old, it is 291k range, I don't know what that means or how that would really change anything at all, anyone who creates a brand new account and anyone who has an old account has the same chances that other people have, except of course I get a lot more for my freerolls because I have been wagering there for years now, considering I have been around here for probably over half a decade, I think it is fair that I am getting more for my freerolls but I have always get them so they are not that high, could have been even higher if I didn't claimed them but whats the point if they give me even 100 bitcoin per free roll if I am not going to get it, they can offer me a million bitcoins and wouldn't make a difference if I don't claim, so now its like 300 or so maybe 400 lately I don't recall. Everything else is exactly the same though.

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Quote from: Degens on April 08, 2020, 03:42:52 AM

Posts like this are why casinos make so much money.

lol but why ? because of secretly promoting it instead of complaining ? maybe thats true because i have seen simillar attempts like this on the past not just only on gambling but also on crypto coins as well . what happens is that peope are gonna get curios to check the site or that coin and then they could have tried it out , out of thier curiousity .

anyway freebit is legit imo , they are old enough on the gambling/faucet industry so why would people still doudbt on thier game ?

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Posts like this are why casinos make so much money.

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Quote from: soloasi on April 07, 2020, 06:14:24 PM

You can calculate if your number is the one they said it was...

IF thres anyone who has an old account of this site (freebitco.in, and i mean OLD, like under the USER ID: 600000) and dont use it, i would like to buy it, anyone interested send me and MP Grin

My account there is old, but not that much. User ID 1.535.000!

For people who wish to check hash and calculate number https://dicesites.com/provably-fair. Anyone can follow the steps and check any hash from any dice site. It was interesting for me to check hashes here and there in the beginning, but I don't do it anymore. Gambling is gambling, if you don't believe in casino choose another, if you need to check them all the time what's the point in that?!

Quote from: elmanchez on April 07, 2020, 03:32:33 PM

A coin has two sides, an eagle and a tails.
How likely is the eagle to drop 13 times? The chance is quite small but it exists, and the tails can also drop out, not even 13 times, but as much as 1000 times, there is 0.0001%, but there is a chance to prove that this is not fair - it’s unrealistic.

Please try that by yourself, if you have patience and energy for that. Take a coin and throw it and write down results. Try that 1000 times or more, and you will see what can happen. Maybe you will have a longer streak than 13! If you try 10000 chances to have longer streak just got bigger.

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While it is unlikely I don't see it as being impossible. It's kind of like losing a bunch of hands in bj. Sure it's highly unlikely to lose that many rolls in a row, but I'm sure a major amount or rolls every day are done on the site that would make abnormalities like this happen possibly.

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You can calculate if your number is the one they said it was...

IF thres anyone who has an old account of this site (freebitco.in, and i mean OLD, like under the USER ID: 600000) and dont use it, i would like to buy it, anyone interested send me and MP Grin

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Quote from: fmrmx1 on April 04, 2020, 09:39:22 PM

How it is possible to lose 13 times in less than 1 minute, with a game that have 50 % win / 50% lose chance?. bullshit. fortunatelly i only bet 17k satoshi...

dont spend your satoshis on this shit game.

Freebitco.in gives you the hash of the seed it will play. And you can change manually your client seed to play whatever seed you want. So freebitco.in can't guess what seed you will play, that's why it's provably fair.

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A coin has two sides, an eagle and a tails.
How likely is the eagle to drop 13 times? The chance is quite small but it exists, and the tails can also drop out, not even 13 times, but as much as 1000 times, there is 0.0001%, but there is a chance to prove that this is not fair - it’s unrealistic.

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1. Freebitco.in has 5% House Edge. And even at 1% house edge, 10 times losing streak is always possible.

2. Martingale is not a betting strategy.

3. 50 % win / 50% lose chance? - bottom line, still relying on chances.

4. Charge that to your experience. You can gamble again if you want but at least you know now what will happen if you continuously play longer each of your sessions.

5. Lock this thread as somehow the community already feeds your mind. You can find it at the bottom left of this thread.

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Quote from: bhabygrim on April 06, 2020, 07:37:43 AM

Let me guess you are using martingale strategy and crying now that the house burned you out.
And losing 13 times in a row isn't new in that strategy I think there are so many other gamblers who used the strategy and lose more than just 13 times in a row.

100% sure that he do make use of martingale and we know that once losing streak hits you then expect for your entire balance would be blown up.
This is nothing new and we all know that HE of freebitco is much higher compared on other typical known dice games nowadays.Talking about
freebitco to be not fair? They wont survive this long if they werent. Why not op tries to do use the same strategy on other dice games? for sure
he would experience much more devastating long losing streaks.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on April 05, 2020, 11:06:47 PM

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Quote from: fmrmx1 on April 05, 2020, 01:59:22 PM

its not fair, and y'all appear to be paid bots or persons on behalf of freebitcoin site, i have played a true fair random number from random.org on a 1 - 10000 range for 6 hours, and i never got a streak of even 8 loses (under 5k) or a streak of 8 wins (above 5k) have u ever won 30 times? if the probability is almost the same, then some day you could win 20 or 30 times, but this wont happen!! never!!, bullshit, anyways i wont bet again.

Then you shouldn't be playing dice anywhere for money, because these streaks are very common.

The chances of getting such a streak again are quite large on sites with house edge of 5% or higher (it's even very common on sites with lower house edge), 'cause there is a huge range of numbers you can't win on when you place x2 bets (in this case you can't win when hitting numbers between 47.50 and 52.50). But again, you shouldn't falsely accuse casinos for being unfair, it will only make you look bad.

I’m not sure who you’re calling bots or paid persons as I can clearly see many legendary members, and other high ranking members have tried and explained to you but you seem hell bent on not understanding their views. I hope this line will help you verify and prove why others are right:

Perhaps you should be quoting the right post.. =/

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Quote from: bhabygrim on April 06, 2020, 07:37:43 AM

Let me guess you are using martingale strategy and crying now that the house burned you out.
And losing 13 times in a row isn't new in that strategy I think there are so many other gamblers who used the strategy and lose more than just 13 times in a row.

Well I am one of them!

Before I played dices a lot, I mean a lot, for hours, burning bitcoins and making bitcoins (when prices was under 500 dollars). With 49% chances to win I had over 30 reds! Once I played roulette, betting on red and after 23 misses I lost 0.5 btc, I didn't have for the next bet! I can tell you that over 4/under 95, you can lose up to 5-6 times!
We can discuss is it provably fair or not, but it's gamble! You never know what can happen, for me winning and losing streaks are normal, it's normal for me to see 5 times the same number!!! It happens. That's why it's important to take breaks after some time, or to change strategy! When you push the same strategy for hours you will run in losing streak!

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Quote from: Savemore on April 05, 2020, 12:42:28 AM

Quote from: pawanjain on April 04, 2020, 11:33:29 PM

Freebitco.in has been in business for years now and it has been very transparent with their process.
That's why they also display their process of calculating their next roll. They also show the client seed and nonce used for calculating the previous roll.
So it's just a matter of luck I would say. If your luck was too bad you can even lose 20 times in a row and then win the next ones.
If your luck is too good you can even win 10 times in a row. 47% chances of winning in no way guarantees that the number acquired would definitely make you a profit. It's just pure luck.

It is all about luck, I previously usedFreebitcoin.in and for me they are fair and not doing any bad and that is why for me that they are transparent. You lose 13 times because your multiplier is x2. It is better if you will earn more experience in order for you to understand how the dice games work. Maybe you try other dice games in other sites that have look a like with the dice game of freebitcoi.in

What's the point of quoting my post here because I just said the same thing. May be you were trying to quote OP and mistakenly quoted my post.
Also, it's freebitco.in and not freebitcoin.in

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Let me guess you are using martingale strategy and crying now that the house burned you out.
And losing 13 times in a row isn't new in that strategy I think there are so many other gamblers who used the strategy and lose more than just 13 times in a row.

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Every time people losing on gambling, they will say "This game was cheated" would be a different scenario if he wins multiple times will be like this "Ok, this casino was rigged maybe i will play at here to get more money".

As long the assumption not a discussion about the "provably fair" from the casino, this is just an "angry situation" because he losing money went doing gambling. U should using the money you can afford to lose, if you can't afford it then do not doing gambling.

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It's not cheating, went you cant prove it.

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Quote from: fmrmx1 on April 05, 2020, 01:59:22 PM

its not fair, and y'all appear to be paid bots or persons on behalf of freebitcoin site, i have played a true fair random number from random.org on a 1 - 10000 range for 6 hours, and i never got a streak of even 8 loses (under 5k) or a streak of 8 wins (above 5k) have u ever won 30 times? if the probability is almost the same, then some day you could win 20 or 30 times, but this wont happen!! never!!, bullshit, anyways i wont bet again.

Before you try another dice site and call it a scam because you ran into a huge losing streak, learn how to verify your bets and you will see that its IMPOSSIBLE for dice sites to cheat you.

Do you know how hashing works? Its basically a one way function. Very easy to hash a function but near impossible to do it in reverse, this is why bitcoin and banks are so secure due to SHA hashing.

So before you bet, look at your server seed, its hashed , you don't know the unhashed seed yet, then bet a few times, and when you are done, request a new seed and you will be given the unhashed seed of your last round. Then put that seed in some script and it will show you if you were cheated and 100% the bets are fair.

Its impossible for the dice site to cheat you, you just lost due to high house edge AND bad luck.

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Quote from: s0lidus on April 05, 2020, 02:32:52 PM

Quote from: fmrmx1 on April 05, 2020, 01:59:22 PM

its not fair, and y'all appear to be paid bots or persons on behalf of freebitcoin site, i have played a true fair random number from random.org on a 1 - 10000 range for 6 hours, and i never got a streak of even 8 loses (under 5k) or a streak of 8 wins (above 5k) have u ever won 30 times? if the probability is almost the same, then some day you could win 20 or 30 times, but this wont happen!! never!!, bullshit, anyways i wont bet again.

Then you shouldn't be playing dice anywhere for money, because these streaks are very common.

The chances of getting such a streak again are quite large on sites with house edge of 5% or higher (it's even very common on sites with lower house edge), 'cause there is a huge range of numbers you can't win on when you place x2 bets (in this case you can't win when hitting numbers between 47.50 and 52.50). But again, you shouldn't falsely accuse casinos for being unfair, it will only make you look bad.

I’m not sure who you’re calling bots or paid persons as I can clearly see many legendary members, and other high ranking members have tried and explained to you but you seem hell bent on not understanding their views. I hope this line will help you verify and prove why others are right:

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TIP: Click the icon at the left of each individual roll to audit your balance before and after each roll to ensure that bets were fair.

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https://freebitco.in/#

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People who gamble should know what the risk in gambling is.It's quite possible to lose 13x at a row. I don't know if freebitco.in is not provably fair or not because I don't play too much like other people. You are over reacting in this. you have no way to verify that it's legit or not. Better move on and try again, that's how people win more than 13x at a row.

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