Topic: Proof that God exists - page 50. (Read 62401 times)

When we don't know if something scientific is law or not, we form a theory about it. The theory isn't there to state that the thing is a law or not. The theory isn't there to make the thing a law or not. The theory is there to help us examine the thing in more detail, so that we can figure out if the thing is a law or not.

It's the only thing we've been speaking about. Do you like Settlers of Catan?

We only agrees that science has a lot to learn. But that it also makes progress everyday. Don't get cute!

Agreed. I'm glad you finally see the light. Raise your hands!

And the understanding of the discoveries that we make, shows us more and more that we are barely moving with regard to the numbers of things that are not yet discovered. The more we learn, the more we find out that there are more things to learn. It's not that there really are more things to learn. It's simply that we don't know how many things there are to learn. But we are gradually finding out that there are way more things to learn than we could have ever dreamed of.

Well, everyday discoveries are made that we even did not think were possible. Best example are discoveries influenced by sci-fi movies. People dreamed and then made reality. You do know teleportation is real? Even if only for a few atoms on a short distance but still.
We understand more and more everyday. And it doesn't look like it's going to stop. It only accelerates. And that's a fact.

Actually, very few of the things that are available to understand in the universe, will ever be understood. The reason for this is that they are way to complex to be understood.

Science can be good when it helps us live better. science is bad when it causes us to think that we can know more than we are able to know.

There are many things we don't understand - yet.
And there were many things we did not understand 200 years ago - but look what progress we made. It's beautiful. Thanks to science.
But the most important thing that we do know is the fact that the things we do not understand at the moment are not magic. We just don't understand them - yet.

Can you explain everything in nature? Do you understand everything that everybody does? Of course not. You don't even understand that contradictions to the Bible are false, even when you don't understand the Bible.

I don't see any evidence for God.  Quite the opposite.  There is strong evidence that God described in the holy books is a social construct developed by people in various times in our human history.  Why?  Because each God has the qualities of people who lived at the time when the God story was invented.  His interactions with the world are described in terms of how people in those times understood the world around them.

If two armies are to about fight each other and the soldiers on each side believe in the same God and pray to help them win the battle, how is God suppose to reconcile those requests?  Free will was invented to justify God's actions.  For example where was God when 6 million Jews were being killed by Germans who believed in the same God.

Anyone who read Bible, Talmud and Quran understands this.  Those books were written for specific purpose, nothing to do with divine power.
Those stories are ridiculous.

Why did God create me to be an Atheist?  I was Catholic before only because I was born into that religion.  Now I used my brain (that God gave me?) to reason my way out of that cult.  Freewill my ass.

Seriously, you are fooling YOURSELF believing in this nonsense.  If you have any reason left in you, I suggest you re-read your bible and apply the same scrutiny as you would to reading a physics textbook.  Reason every paragraph.  Don't listen what others tell you those words mean.  Read and reason for yourself.

I don't really care what you believe, it does not matter.  I have problem with the missionary aspect of the religion because you guys spreading lies about science, history and reality in general.
 
PS. The story of Adam and Eve and the incest that followed is as ridiculous as it is immoral. 

It is a logical conclusion based on the things that god's witnesses in the bible said and say.

So can you explain this:
The bible also says that rabbits chew their cud like a cow

The bible says unicorns exist

The bible condones slavery in no less than 5 different books

The entire old testament is filled with murder and genocide

The bible places Jesus in cities hundreds of miles apart on the same day

The bible says the earth has four corners (implying the earth is flat)

The bible says God created light... 3 days before he created the sun and stars...

I don't speak or read Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek. But I do understand the Bible. How can this be?

The Bible translations are not entirely accurate according to the originals, and they probably will never be. However, there is enough accuracy in the translations that a person can get a basic understanding of what is being said. This basic understanding includes knowledge of Jesus salvation.

When a person comes to Jesus salvation, the Holy Spirit, over time, gradually works a knowledge of the rest of the Bible in Him. A non-believer in Jesus salvation doesn't get this knowledge, unless he fluently understands the original languages in their context and the way they were spoken back in their day.

So you talk and read Hebrew Aramaic and Greek then? Or you don't understand the Bible either?

Ahh satisfaction.

I so like it when meaningful, logical discussions reveal the truth. Truth is inevitable.

That is a good point. Religion requires faith.  There is your proof God does not exist.  Because if it did, religion would not need faith.

Our courts follow the Bible principle. The strongest judgments are a product of, and based on, eye witness reports.