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February 17, 2016, 12:56:13 PM
If one sits down and thinks logically for a few minutes then he will have no reason to doubt that God does exist. In peace everybody can feel the existence of God for sure. God lives within us.
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February 17, 2016, 12:30:13 PM
Not that perfect from where I'm looking. At best it's in a fragile state.

Yeah I wonder what will be their argument after WWIII? "the world was perfect or more or less" ^^
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February 17, 2016, 09:21:10 AM
Not that perfect from where I'm looking. At best it's in a fragile state.
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February 17, 2016, 09:14:13 AM
The world is perfect, day resumes after night, the four seasons follow each other without problems, everything has a place and purpose in this world all due to the great and mightiness of the supreme creator, God.
This world itself a proof for God's existence.

Yeah and the fact that universe is so perfect isn't a bit tarnished by the murders the abominations and the mosnters?
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February 17, 2016, 07:48:04 AM
Don't talk like that! God exists. Youtube says so!
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February 17, 2016, 07:31:50 AM
The world is perfect, day resumes after night, the four seasons follow each other without problems, everything has a place and purpose in this world all due to the great and mightiness of the supreme creator, God.
This world itself a proof for God's existence.

You know what else are proof? Eggs. In the form of an omelette.
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February 17, 2016, 07:26:54 AM
The world is perfect, day resumes after night, the four seasons follow each other without problems, everything has a place and purpose in this world all due to the great and mightiness of the supreme creator, God.
This world itself a proof for God's existence.
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February 17, 2016, 06:51:09 AM
Oh, my good man, what you don't understand is that while christians hate to be rich, churches themselves are not cheap. Not this might seem like a contradiction of sorts, you have to understand that you can't just pray in a hovel. Good christian feelings only come under certain conditions.

Well even if that was right, there is no reason for the believers to be rich. Why do they have money and don't simply give everything to the church?

But in order to be able to give a lot of money to the church, you first have to get rich. That's why they get rich - because they want to be poor.
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February 17, 2016, 06:48:23 AM
Oh, my good man, what you don't understand is that while christians hate to be rich, churches themselves are not cheap. Not this might seem like a contradiction of sorts, you have to understand that you can't just pray in a hovel. Good christian feelings only come under certain conditions.

Well even if that was right, there is no reason for the believers to be rich. Why do they have money and don't simply give everything to the church?
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February 17, 2016, 06:43:35 AM
Oh, my good man, what you don't understand is that while christians hate to be rich, churches themselves are not cheap. Not this might seem like a contradiction of sorts, you have to understand that you can't just pray in a hovel. Good christian feelings only come under certain conditions.
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February 17, 2016, 06:36:44 AM
I guess no one wants to be rich. Or that God doesn't exist? Hmm, I wonder...

Nah, you think that could be an answer? Grin

Christians are taught to give up riches, so I guess they're thinking proactively.

That's something I never understood!

In the Bible, the son of God himself says that rich will never be able to go to heaven and that poor will be accepted easily... So why are Christians so linked to assets? Why are they so materialist? Why aren't all the Christians poor and generous?
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February 17, 2016, 06:16:28 AM
I guess no one wants to be rich. Or that God doesn't exist? Hmm, I wonder...

Nah, you think that could be an answer? Grin

Christians are taught to give up riches, so I guess they're thinking proactively.
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February 17, 2016, 06:09:02 AM
I guess no one wants to be rich. Or that God doesn't exist? Hmm, I wonder...

Nah, you think that could be an answer? Grin
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February 17, 2016, 05:16:21 AM
You do realize the staggering amount of incest needed to create a race from 2 people. Theoretically speaking. Because if it were needed to repopulate the earth again it would be needed something like 300.00 people in order to avoid the terrible genetic inbred consequences that would result otherwise.

Which is evidence against the creation story... multiple generations of incest is detrimental to the gene pool... take a look at the Egyptian Pharaohs for a perfect example

The theory of evolution does not start with 2 people... it is the continuous progression of small adaptations in a gene pool of a species, that over time add up to large changes... it does not start with 2 people, but a group/herd of people/animals... no incest required for evolution, only creationism...

(I suppose BADecker would argue the first 2 amoeba were incestual, but amoeba reproduce asexually, so he'd be wrong as usual)

Well Bible is a big pile of incoherence and nonsense... It is useless to try to apply any logic to it!

Yeah, still, some people are hopeless romantics...
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February 17, 2016, 05:14:51 AM
You do realize the staggering amount of incest needed to create a race from 2 people. Theoretically speaking. Because if it were needed to repopulate the earth again it would be needed something like 300.00 people in order to avoid the terrible genetic inbred consequences that would result otherwise.

Which is evidence against the creation story... multiple generations of incest is detrimental to the gene pool... take a look at the Egyptian Pharaohs for a perfect example

The theory of evolution does not start with 2 people... it is the continuous progression of small adaptations in a gene pool of a species, that over time add up to large changes... it does not start with 2 people, but a group/herd of people/animals... no incest required for evolution, only creationism...

(I suppose BADecker would argue the first 2 amoeba were incestual, but amoeba reproduce asexually, so he'd be wrong as usual)

Well Bible is a big pile of incoherence and nonsense... It is useless to try to apply any logic to it!
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February 17, 2016, 05:00:35 AM
I guess no one wants to be rich. Or that God doesn't exist? Hmm, I wonder...
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February 17, 2016, 04:59:07 AM
All the proof you need is here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge

Since 1964, the James Randi foundation offered to give anyone $1,000,000 who could provide any scientific evidence for anything supernatural, including religion...

In over 50 years, not a single person could provide any legitimate scientific evidence in a controlled setting...

In fact, not a single person made it past the preliminary stage, which was much less controlled...

Wow cool! I didn't know it existed xD

Well it's a bit a shame. It's one million that will never be used anywhere ^^
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February 17, 2016, 04:22:28 AM
All the proof you need is here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge

Since 1964, the James Randi foundation offered to give anyone $1,000,000 who could provide any scientific evidence for anything supernatural, including religion...

In over 50 years, not a single person could provide any legitimate scientific evidence in a controlled setting...

In fact, not a single person made it past the preliminary stage, which was much less controlled...

That's because God made natural laws which prevent random events from occurring Smiley
That's why there's order in the universe.
Yes, there are forces beyond our control and comprehension are behind everything, things that we take for granted have a reason behind it. God has made man for a purpose, this earth as his home, everything contained within for his existence.
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February 17, 2016, 03:59:58 AM
All the proof you need is here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge

Since 1964, the James Randi foundation offered to give anyone $1,000,000 who could provide any scientific evidence for anything supernatural, including religion...

In over 50 years, not a single person could provide any legitimate scientific evidence in a controlled setting...

In fact, not a single person made it past the preliminary stage, which was much less controlled...

Since cause and effect is common scientific law, evolution can't exist except that it was pre-programmed into nature. However, the cause for the universe had to be supernatural. If it weren't, we would see the Programmer.

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Please, do go to James Randi, win the 1 million $ prize and donate it to your favorite charity. Then, after reading the proof data I'll believe.
It's not like we're stubborn here, I personally would love for God to exist, to live forever, it's just that common sense tells me everything about God is fake, unsubstantiated and contradictory.
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February 17, 2016, 03:55:55 AM
You do realize the staggering amount of incest needed to create a race from 2 people. Theoretically speaking. Because if it were needed to repopulate the earth again it would be needed something like 300.00 people in order to avoid the terrible genetic inbred consequences that would result otherwise.

Which is evidence against the creation story...

The theory of evolution does not start with 2 people... it is the continuous progression of small adaptations in a gene pool of a species, that over time add up to large changes... it does not start with 2 people, but a group/herd of people/animals... no incest required for evolution, only creationism...

(I suppose BADecker would argue the first 2 amoeba were incestual, but amoeba reproduce asexually, so he'd be wrong as usual)

LOL.

It would take only few generations to create genetic problems.  Look at Mennonite and Amish communities, in less than 300 years they developed genetic diseases that doctors cannot even name.  And they are not completely isolated. (and are highly religious people who believe in God the creator).

The incest as described in the Bible would end in three or four generations.

You think this way because you don't realize the amount of human devolution that has taken place over a mere 6,000 years.

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as evidenced by?  


The things that you type. If you are not typing things that you believe, then you are typing lies, which proves your devolution even more.

Cool

You know, I think I feel like I'm devolving right now talking to you.  

I better stop and go back to evolving....


The fact that you feel that you are devolving is a sign that you are moving in the direction of truth. Then when you say you are going to evolve, you are right, because evolving has to do with recognizing the truth when you haven't recognized it before.

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Something does not compile here.

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devolving is a sign that you are moving in the direction of truth

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evolving has to do with recognizing the truth

So. When you are moving towards the truth you are devolving and when recognizing it you are evolving even if you're not moving towards it?
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