Topic: Proposal: Disallow Ads in Signatures (Read 19034 times)

Nice. Bumping 4 years old topic.
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Exposure is good but I think most operators are very self conscious of having a positive image as well or as positive as possible considering they are running casinos...

They would respond that they don't allow the members to spam and they will investigate your allegations

Allowing members to get money from their signature is great but it results in more rubbish posts but disallowing members to get money from their signature would eliminate a great thing to avoid getting a few more rubbish posts

you should allow signatures for newbies IMO  .
I might be interested in renting your sig "and reselling it for PD" I can offer 10 satoshi's/day.

Why in the hell would you delete some poster's public nickname on a public forum where the public poster is posting posts publicly for the sake of ~privacy~?

That's stupid, if you want people to review his posts and report him to moderators. You want to showcase the problem, not hide it.

I am surprised that the sponsors pay for posts above this amount.  I actually have a hard time getting to 50.  Not saying that my posts are never rubbish, but they are always as thoughtful as I can make them.

I do wonder what the sponsors would do if you PM'ed them and said, "good news, I saw an ad for your casino, bad news, the source spams the boards so excessively I will never visit you, sorry" what kind of response you'd get or if they would follow your advice and not pay for more than 300 or so posts a month?

Can you PM me the member nickname please?


If you wouldn't make more money after 300-500posts or so that would limit the rubbish posts


You can disallow signatures as well

What some other forums do is only allow signature links for people who donate a moderate sum of money. Seems to work for many. It should increase the quality of posts at least a little bit, at least in theory.

In my opinion if there is no signature campaigns people will try to promote their service anyway with posts leading to their site or somhow try to encourage you with wrong link, etc. With ad in your sig it is clear that this space is for advertising and nothing else. Just my opinion.

Maybe people are coming at this from the wrong angle?  The focus is (understandably) on the annoying people who post a lot in order to inflate their post count and get more revenue from the sig sponsors.  However, maybe the better people to target are the sponsors rather than just the abusive posters.  Given that the forum itself sells ads, maybe a well crafted message to signature sponsors showing how advertising with the forum directly is more efficient than annoying a large segment of the forum's user base might have a very positive effect.  Maybe even PMs from users about excessive posting by some users will convince the sig sponsor to reign them in.

Obviously, I am a signature seller, and the sad fact is it is one of the best ways to get BTC these days while also learning more about bitcoin.

This sounds like a good idea. I am new here and I usually find myself at other people's nonconstructive posts. You might also want to take a look at this guy, which I have seen posting with extreme frequency (look at the amount of time between posts as well as their content): (EDIT: DELETED FOR PRIVACY'S SAKE). Many of the posts either repeat what has already been said or are just off-topic. But I am also not a mod (in fact, quite new) and don't know the criteria for a post to be considered spam.

For a newbie: it doesn't matter at the moment since my member status can literally participate in no signature campaign now (and I think my sig doesn't even hold links  )

Maybe the staff could perform a small investigation on users that have been ignored by the highest percentage of members and if they are spamming, the staff would message them and disallow their sig for a while if they keep spamming

As it was previously said, I think allowing ads in signatures is good for new members, for the forum and for Bitcoin if it is handled correctly; it gives back to the new members that can accumulate some bitcoins while becoming part of the community; we should be careful not to always ask for changes that benefit us at the expense of others. Let's ask the new members if they want to disallow ads in the signatures.

When you don't like to see endless advertisements for PD or RGC you can always check "Don't show users' signatures." in "Look and Layout Preferences", you won't see the signature ads anymore and you will have a clear thread but you will still get the spam from the half dozen members that spam to get money;these members should be dealt with by staff : it is not easy to punish them since they usually kind of post comments related to topics but you can still tell they post for money because their posts are not interesting to read and usually don't add anything to the discussion

TF was very smart, I even enjoyed using inputs.io it was a very fast and quick service to send Bitcoins although I always cashed my balance or played that battle game for a bit. Never really trusted online wallets since the first one I made instantwallet died the next week, although I only was using it for faucets, it made me learn right away that QT is King and to keep a small balance on online ones.
(Less the exchanges where you take the risk)
I saw you a few times on coinchat when it was still around and they were if I recall correctly still paying out after that hack, so can see where the mods came from that and they were still on salary I believe.

That said he did a pretty smart move running coinlenders to build up a loan and line of credit service, then combining that with inputs.io and giving double payouts to members who used that service to build up it's reputation and to increase the balances held there. Add to that coinchat for goodwill which gave out small amounts to users and his campaign against ripple demonstrated with the Ripple IOUS and you have a multi-layered attack.

That said all the related sites and domains expired a while ago so in retrospect it was probably used in order to get more traffic for inputs.io as much as it was used to point out issues against ripple.

More Time Machine Links
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1-free-ripple-btc-giveaway-ended-see-op-over-455-btc-gaveaway-206948
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/be-a-mod-on-coinchat-1-btc-a-month-230114
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2483381
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2490249  he-he

Fun stuff, if I recall correctly the first sig campaign was Coinlenders so we can say that the spam is a legacy of TF
Partially (He did use activity tiers and a posting range unlike the current sig campaigners)
(Best payouts - NO POSTING NEEDED & Updated)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2916241

Back to lurking

Actually Bonus Addition
Good old Tradefortress trolling
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6324933

And yet you guys drone on about it by the thousands of posts. Endlessly. Repeatedly. Like broken records. Have any of you ever READ your posts in this thread? Over and over and over and over and over and over.

Ugh, CoinChat and all that crap. TradeFortress was very smart and trust me, he could definitiely convince people that he was totally legit. Even 30 days+ down the line from the inputs.io hack CoinChat was somehow still on a leg and some of the mods were still convinced he had "lost" 4000 BTC+.

Below post:


You expect us to sit here while the forum is overrun with spam due to mostly signature ads? Making an argument is not "droning on about it by the thousands of posts". The level of quality is just being brought down due to signature ads in general.

I post in securities section primarily so not quite sure if you are arguing with my posts or the people below me since I never really noticed you in particular KJJ  were generally not in the same areas of the forum. Your more in D@T which is arguably one of the cleanest sections of the forum while I watch company launches etc in securities.

I will point out that in my opinion as a member of the Bitcoin foundation your a bit sketchy maybe I just got influenced to much by that war between the Bitcoin Education Project and the Foundation and mircea and her posts. However I can count a few cases now of Foundation members getting into a fair bit of trouble child modeling, Satoshidice,the arrest of the vice chairman connected to silkroad etc.
http://trilema.com/2014/the-sins-of-the-group-of-posers-behind-the-so-called-bitcoin-foundation/
http://www.linkedin.com/company/the-bitcoin-education-project

Foundation Stuff
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2014/01/27/winklevoss-funded-bitcoin-startup-ceo-arrested-in-silk-road-investigation/
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-19/gambling-website-s-bitcoin-denominated-stock-draws-sec-inquiry.html
http://valleywag.gawker.com/the-bitcoin-broker-and-the-13-year-old-girl-in-the-biki-1563202590

That said if your rule is to block people with ads in general then I have no beef with you but there are productive users among the signature users.

@ Since I feel like picking on Diamondcardz for escaping unscathed
You and your coinchat shenanigans and faucet !coins although props given for not using any ad since inputs.io way back when fortress was still legit (Oddly enough inputs.io leads to the EFF page now)

That said I do see some non-traditional spam as well not just sig users but I agree in general more users has resulted in more spam, then again that is just a relation to the S shaped adoption curve Bitcoin faces and increasing mainstream media presences, influenced by the legal news surrounding Bitcoin.
http://bitlegal.net/

Promoted posts to press all from one user etc.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77446.620

Had my fun and kjj just use bitcointa.lk and save yourself some of the trouble if you unignore long enough to see it hehe else carry on suffering snide way of contributing  
https://bitcointa.lk/

Your in D@T although this was posted in service discussion so should have seen that site by now
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-the-bitcointalk-community-with-a-2014-forum-software-515932

At this point, the forum is mostly dead to me.  I used to be active in about a half dozen boards.  Now once every few days, I check the "new replies" link up top, check maybe 2 or 3 of the threads, click "mark as read" on the rest, and check Dev&tech for big news maybe a couple of times each week.

Feel free to go back to page 14 and check the post histories of the people I've got on ignore (everyone except DiamondCardz).  I have, and I'm not missing anything.

Ad signatures aren't the only problem here, but they sure are a big part of the decline.

Better handling of the ignore function (don't bump threads in the notify and replies lists when the only new posts are from ignored users) and ignore list syndication would help revitalize this place.

That's my point, because signature adverts will in most cases create spam...

...Or possibly he just ignores everyone with a signature advert?

Ah, unfortunately, that's what I'm here to do. However this proves my point: If the vast majority of page 14 is being ignored by you and the vast majority of page 14 is by people with signature ads, surely there is a correlation between signature ads and low-quality posting?