Topic: Pros and Cons to Anon coins, Including Darkcoin / Cloakcoin, lets discuss them. - page 2. (Read 8787 times)

That flow chart is the worst thing ever and I agree is confusing.  Just because Joe can generate _Posa does not mean he has to.  There are even now options to decide how anon you want to be and how many times you want your transaction to be split. There will be a node to create _posa.  I have tested turning my wallet off and have received txs sent via posa.

In the diagram, there's a box there on the upper right that reads: "Tells Joe to Create _PoSA Address and receive it from him".  Then there's another box that reads "Send _PoSA address to Anty from Joe". Looks pretty clear to me that Joe's client needs to be online to generate the _PoSA address. Is the diagram wrong?

Magic?

Joe does not do anything when _PoSA is generated.  Alty knows Joe's address and is initiating a transaction.  This prompts the PoSA nodes to generate the necessary addresses and the funds are shipped.  There are no actions required from Joe's wallet.

The wallet can be offline and still respond to Alty's request for new _PoSA address? That's some pretty cool magic.  Can you explain how that works?

Joe receives Altys CLOAK like any normal wallet.  Offline wallets have been tested to work. Since wallet build #19 of 27

BOOM, Headshot!

My feelings on this are in line with what Stealth stated, there are many devs out there that have quite insidious intentions. So by remaining anonymous you are not really able to look into the history of that dev. Also keep in mind there was a very short POW period, which we have no idea if the devs got the majority of those mined coins.. At least it seems like a more honest launch than many.

What happens if Alty wants to send Cloakcoin to Joe but Joe is offline?

Darkcoin's latest iteration of darksend to my knowledge premixes so that you can transact normally. ie. you still have a transaction number to refer to.

Ooooh, this is my area of knowledge:)

Firstly, any mixing technology will also have bloat - you understand that, right? If it goes through 8 hops that's 8 entries in the blockchain. The ONLY advantage that a cryptocurrency using mixing has is that they *can* prune the blockchain (not that they have or even necessarily know how). There is no evidence to suggest that Monero can't prune its blockchain - it absolutely can. The only thing that is currently viewed as hard-to-do-maybe-to-the-point-of-being-impossible is pruning of the key image set and the utxoset, but the blockchain itself can be pruned right up to the highest block.

I also have never heard of Monero transactions being "non-provable". If that were the case your wallet wouldn't know that a particular transaction is meant for you. It does so by "proving" it is. Baked right into the protocol is a "view key" that can be used to expose multiple transactions, and each transaction has a one-time key that can be exposed to show the details of a transaction and confirm it is yours. Monero is, thus, cryptographically anonymous and unlinkable, and optionally transparent on a per-transaction basis. NB: The tooling to both reveal this and inspect it is still being written, but every transaction from the genesis block on has been functionally anonymous and has this optional transparency baked in.

How do other coins handle this? I mean, how do you reveal a transaction in Darkcoin/XC/Cloakcoin and prove it came from you?

All these three coins are good,these coins can work together,there is enough room for them!

Ah, that opinion. It's old FUD. Chaeplin didn't understand what was being tested.

Here's why.

Once again, this stuff has happened already.


To sum it all up:

Rev 2.45 (private payments).

XChat RC 6 (true P2P instant messaging with end-to-end encryption)

XC TOR Stick (releasing on Thursday; doesn't use TOR exit nodes so packet sniffers can't find you)

Just in case you're not quite convinced, here's a screenshot of XChat RC 6 (the current test release) on my computer:

My comment above refers to the existing Rev 2.45 release.

Download it, try it out.

As for the future, this is vaporware that XC will bring to market post-Rev 3:

This is not vapour. It's working.

Download XChat RC 6 here, and then send me a message using the details on my sig.

It's working. Download XC Rev 2.45 here.

Ad hominem deluxe.

Not going to bother with your other answers as they were all excuses and diversions as to the heart of the problem that I exposed in my original statements.

But go look in the thread for #3 dont hide away like the cloak devs......I dont care who Strasborg is, there are many other contributors now laughing at cloak and exposing how flawed the design and diagram is.

 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8130099