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Topic: PSA: do not agree to new COINBASE.COM terms!!! - page 2. (Read 2656 times)

legendary
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The Golden Rule Rules
in your example you say they dont honour deals. but if the $5000 is returned to you. there is no criminal act.

its like going to a bar and them telling you that they wont serve you. this is not breaking the law, to refuse service. as long as your not out of pocket. as that is then theft if they do not hand you bitcoins or $5000.

in which case i would ask you to first get a debt collection agency involved. and then if no positive result, get a court involved.
i say this because if you got a court involved first, the result would be the court palms it off to a debt recovery company anyways. but by doing the cheap option of debt recovery first. you can then use that in court later as evidence they refuse refund/compensation. and the court would then look into other punishment = jailtime.

this saves money, avoids going around in legal circles(time wasting) and gets the court to offer them a larger punishment


The deal is that we agreed to exchange my $5000 for their 10 bitcoins.  That is the deal.  They take your $5000 and wait (1 -2 weeks ) to see if they want to give you the 10 bitcoins or not.  If they don't want to give you the 10 bitcoins, they will obviously return the $5000. 
legendary
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in your example you say they dont honour deals. but if the $5000 is returned to you. there is no criminal act.

its like going to a bar and them telling you that they wont serve you. this is not breaking the law, to refuse service. as long as your not out of pocket. as that is then theft if they do not hand you bitcoins or $5000.

in which case i would ask you to first get a debt collection agency involved. and then if no positive result, get a court involved.
i say this because if you got a court involved first, the result would be the court palms it off to a debt recovery company anyways. but by doing the cheap option of debt recovery first. you can then use that in court later as evidence they refuse refund/compensation. and the court would then look into other punishment = jailtime.

this saves money, avoids going around in legal circles(time wasting) and gets the court to offer them a larger punishment
legendary
Activity: 1274
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The Golden Rule Rules
By the way Brian, I know you guys know who I am, because I've chatted with Olaf who has refused to reinitate the agreed upon transactions from OCTOBER (yes october lol), because the "window for restarting the purchase" is closed."  

If anything happens to me or my family/friends, it is obviously you.  I've told my family / friends all about this.  Yes I am a threat to your operation and all those that have invested money in you.

You can rectify everything by showing that "anti-fraud algorithm" for the experts to take a look at.  But who knows, you might have already covered your tracks.


legendary
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The Golden Rule Rules
What you are saying is Coinbase do not honour buy/sell orders? I have never used Coinbase before, their policy does sound a bit odd. You links are all from 2013. Are there any recent ones in 2014?

Not too many from 2014, because the price of bitcoin hasn't bubbled in 2014.  But watch, if there is another bubble this will continue to happen, unless coinbase has been "full" from all the money it's eaten from people.
legendary
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What you are saying is Coinbase do not honour buy/sell orders? I have never used Coinbase before, their policy does sound a bit odd. You links are all from 2013. Are there any recent ones in 2014?
legendary
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If you think that you're right, go ahead and try suing. Have fun  Wink
legendary
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Brian Armstrong is just a much smarter / competent version of Mark Karpeles of Mtgox.  He has a degree in computer science and economics.  He has the perfect pedigree of being a mastermind at defrauding people in this new wild wild west of cryptocurrencies.

Coinbase has over 630,000 customers.  Almost all of which are happy and satisfied, but the small percentage that aren't happy or satisfied, has taken a HUGE hit.  We're not talking about $5, we're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars.  This "anti-fraud" "high risk transaction" algorithm that coinbase has is nothing more than an algorithm (if it's event that) made to put extra money in the pockets of the owners.

How do I know this?  Common sense.  Once a customer has verified their bank account and initiated a buy transaction, right than and there the algorithm should kick in to detect if it is "high risk" or not.  NOT 2 weeks later when the money has been taken out of the person's bank account (and then ultimately returned back to the person's bank account bc it is "high risk").  That is why there is a verification process to make sure the registered customer owns the bank account.  During those 1 - 2 weeks, coinbase is in control and can do whatever at will.  

For example, if I order 10 bitcoins at $500 each... coinbase will take out $5,000 from my verified bank account and say we will give it to you 1 -2 weeks later.  Come the date that you are supposed to receive your bitcoins, coinbase has the option of A) giving you the bitcoin like promised b) calling it a "high risk" transaction and denying you the agreed upon deal.  

Does that make sense?  If bitcoin rises to $700 each by the time you are supposed to receive your bitcoin, the obvious thing to do is to call it a "high risk" transaction.  And then after you would have a decision to make.  Do i keep the money in my bank and in hopes coinbase would reinitiate the transaction and honor the previously agreed upon deal?  Since their customer support always says in the forums "we regularly reinitiate" transactions, which is a lie.  They certainly ignore you if it is a large amount.  Some people have lost over $10,000 because of this.  A small handful of people not satisfied equates to hundreds of thousands of dollars extra in the pockets of coinbase.

Here is just a bit of info

coinbasefraud.com

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3655164

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinbase-hands-down-the-most-unprofessional-bitcoin-service-ive-dealt-with-339882

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinbase-cancellation-issues-are-not-resolved-145797

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3655636

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinbase-is-a-bunch-of-thieves-328076

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3454765

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinbase-steals-and-profits-off-customers-via-high-risk-transaction-scheme-322229

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3450929

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3531406

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3526610

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3627572

http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/14195/did-i-just-get-defrauded-by-coinbase


Ok here is some proof with screenshots:

















What the heck?  Are you serious?  You guys aren't even on the same page.  Also the funds have automatically been sent back to my bank before you guys replied to me.  This incident has pretty much ruined my holidays and reputation with friends/family.  I was in school and it affected my grades.  By the time I could purchase bitcoin again, the price had ballooned to like $600.


By the way Brian, I know you guys know who I am, because I've chatted with Olaf who has refused to reinitate the agreed upon transactions from OCTOBER (yes october lol), because the "window for restarting the purchase" is closed."  

If anything happens to me or my family/friends, it is obviously you.  I've told my family / friends all about this.  Yes I am a threat to your operation and all those that have invested money in you.

You can rectify everything by showing that "anti-fraud algorithm" for the experts to take a look at.  But who knows, you might have already covered your tracks.


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