Putting money in lottery is gambling too? - page 4.

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Quote from: hua_hui on November 20, 2016, 02:00:03 AM

Lottery is also playing with luck and that is no control you have in the result. All you can do is that pray that the number you buy will come out.

And how exactly is praying working out for you ? Roll Eyes

Quote from: hua_hui on November 20, 2016, 02:00:03 AM

In my opinion i will call this gambling cause you gamble with your luck and not using your skill to improve on your chance of earning more money.

You've said the same crap in this thread for about a million times.We get it,bro.

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Lottery is also playing with luck and that is no control you have in the result. All you can do is that pray that the number you buy will come out. In my opinion i will call this gambling cause you gamble with your luck and not using your skill to improve on your chance of earning more money.

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Sure its gambling what you would say about lotery its just a game? Which you throw money to the jackpot, and play against others trying to get the main prizes. Makes no diference lotery of bitcoin as the real lotery systems, people keep gambling at lotery even with the soo many financial problems showing up.

That's individuals decision and they have the freedom to spend their money, I know lottery does not really make you lose big because you just have to bet a small amount of money hoping you can win the jackpot which normally millions. Even if you have problem, you still have the right to enjoy.

Lottery can in fact make you lose big, if you buy hundreds of lottery tickets, that is not really that different than putting hundreds of bets on the roulette, slots or blackjack.

agree with you mate. playing lottery can really lose us big especially when we buy bunch of tickets thinking that more tickets means more chances to win. Well, this maybe true but let us be realistic to the fact that lottery has more number combinations than any gambling games out there - you need to buy hundreds or even thousands of combinations before you can really hit the jackpot. You can do that but your bet is much way bigger than your jackpot winning.

I know only one person who did manage to win a car with his lottery ticket and he used to invest 30% of his earnings before that every month in buying these tickets. It's a waste of money as even if you buy 90% of those tickets, there are still less chances of winning the jackpot. Raffles, lottery is only worth when there is more than one winner.

An it is even worst than that since lotteries are not charities if a ticket cost lets say a 10 dollars and 100k people buy tickets you may expect the total prizes to sum 1 million but in fact is going to be a lot less since they are doing the lottery to win money.

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Sure its gambling what you would say about lotery its just a game? Which you throw money to the jackpot, and play against others trying to get the main prizes. Makes no diference lotery of bitcoin as the real lotery systems, people keep gambling at lotery even with the soo many financial problems showing up.

That's individuals decision and they have the freedom to spend their money, I know lottery does not really make you lose big because you just have to bet a small amount of money hoping you can win the jackpot which normally millions. Even if you have problem, you still have the right to enjoy.

Lottery can in fact make you lose big, if you buy hundreds of lottery tickets, that is not really that different than putting hundreds of bets on the roulette, slots or blackjack.

agree with you mate. playing lottery can really lose us big especially when we buy bunch of tickets thinking that more tickets means more chances to win. Well, this maybe true but let us be realistic to the fact that lottery has more number combinations than any gambling games out there - you need to buy hundreds or even thousands of combinations before you can really hit the jackpot. You can do that but your bet is much way bigger than your jackpot winning.

I know only one person who did manage to win a car with his lottery ticket and he used to invest 30% of his earnings before that every month in buying these tickets. It's a waste of money as even if you buy 90% of those tickets, there are still less chances of winning the jackpot. Raffles, lottery is only worth when there is more than one winner.

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Quote from: Zohaib_Ali on July 29, 2016, 12:22:12 AM

Hello everyone, so I joined freebitcoin about a week ago, I can afford to buy around 500-1000 lottery tickets. But when I see last round the first winner has just 120 tickets but other winners got 10000+ tickets, if I buy around 1000 tickets, will it be worth and is it like gambling? Will it be addictive? Guys please tell me that lottery is second form of gambling or not?

Ofcourse it is also a type of gambling . But it is small different from gambling because in this type of gambling in the beginning the chances of winning is very less but of lossing very high .

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Quote from: BitcoinHodler on November 19, 2016, 10:01:38 AM

if i had to choose the top worst ways of spending money then buying a lottery ticket would have been in the top three for sure.

and i actually have the experience with buying lottery tickets and wasting my money on them, and as you have guessed i never have won anything in my life in any kind of lottery game ever. it is always either my bad luck or the fakeness of the lottery system!

That is true, I also never heard and see anyone who win a lot of amount from lottery tickets. In fact many fake lottery tickets systems are here, and i saw many people buy it, and in the end of the result, they have been wasted their money.
But about the OP, actually, if we become greedy for winning amount in lottery, than definitely we will buy it and same situation is here in gambling, when we become greedy than we play gambling, so in this point both are same.

Lottery is have a probability to fraud/scam, its very susceptible. if we see, the cost of lottery ticket is more than expected profit.
According to wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lottery
The probability profit is very widely, which every game lottery mode have a variant prize, the game also can be manipulate, since nowadays people became clever person if they have a plan to scam people for illicit money.
This advice can help to avoid lottery scam: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lottery_scam

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if i had to choose the top worst ways of spending money then buying a lottery ticket would have been in the top three for sure.

and i actually have the experience with buying lottery tickets and wasting my money on them, and as you have guessed i never have won anything in my life in any kind of lottery game ever. it is always either my bad luck or the fakeness of the lottery system!

I myself are really doubtful about this type of game. Even if that certain government supports that lottery company i still doubt its fairness. But people use to just take chances instead of saving those and consider as an investment that would surely grow someday.

Lottery games are just a waste and I get free tickets by some websites for just participating in events. It's like if I win, it's good and even if I don't win, it's good.

I don't like that people spend so much money on these games and some websites aren't even trusted enough to choose a fair winner. It's never an investment as the game gets over, the ticket is useless.

Well in online i do not trust them but in local lottery it gives me win sometimes not always but i win maybe 5 or 6 times but i always betting daily and trying my luck to hit the jackpot prize to be millionaire someday.. but here in online i do not know if they are saying true or not or if they are giving provably fair.. and i think it is just like we are just donating our money for nothing.

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if i had to choose the top worst ways of spending money then buying a lottery ticket would have been in the top three for sure.

and i actually have the experience with buying lottery tickets and wasting my money on them, and as you have guessed i never have won anything in my life in any kind of lottery game ever. it is always either my bad luck or the fakeness of the lottery system!

I myself are really doubtful about this type of game. Even if that certain government supports that lottery company i still doubt its fairness. But people use to just take chances instead of saving those and consider as an investment that would surely grow someday.

Lottery games are just a waste and I get free tickets by some websites for just participating in events. It's like if I win, it's good and even if I don't win, it's good.

I don't like that people spend so much money on these games and some websites aren't even trusted enough to choose a fair winner. It's never an investment as the game gets over, the ticket is useless.

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Lotery system has been made to give profit just to the owner of the rights, even paying a tax the person behind those will always win, and thats not some cents. I dont agree with euromilions gamble way, because shouldnt be possible to repeat a key, this makes harder to get a real winner, we do see some people making the same bets like 200-400 people. It would be more fair if were only possible to regist one key, and not allow to repeat the numbers.

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Quote from: BitcoinHodler on November 19, 2016, 10:01:38 AM

if i had to choose the top worst ways of spending money then buying a lottery ticket would have been in the top three for sure.

and i actually have the experience with buying lottery tickets and wasting my money on them, and as you have guessed i never have won anything in my life in any kind of lottery game ever. it is always either my bad luck or the fakeness of the lottery system!

That is true, I also never heard and see anyone who win a lot of amount from lottery tickets. In fact many fake lottery tickets systems are here, and i saw many people buy it, and in the end of the result, they have been wasted their money.
But about the OP, actually, if we become greedy for winning amount in lottery, than definitely we will buy it and same situation is here in gambling, when we become greedy than we play gambling, so in this point both are same.

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Quote from: BitcoinHodler on November 19, 2016, 10:01:38 AM

if i had to choose the top worst ways of spending money then buying a lottery ticket would have been in the top three for sure.

and i actually have the experience with buying lottery tickets and wasting my money on them, and as you have guessed i never have won anything in my life in any kind of lottery game ever. it is always either my bad luck or the fakeness of the lottery system!

I myself are really doubtful about this type of game. Even if that certain government supports that lottery company i still doubt its fairness. But people use to just take chances instead of saving those and consider as an investment that would surely grow someday.

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Quote from: clickerz on November 19, 2016, 10:11:59 AM

it is still gambling since you make a bet and expecting to win. Though it has a very slim or probability to win,you are spending your money and also, it is addicting.Also if you are betting daily,it will also become a vices.

Yes, actually I could not understand what makes OP not to consider lottery as a gambling as lottery has all the characteristics of typical gambling. I did read lottery must be the one of oldest gambling of human race, still many countries legalized it and themselves running a lottery system even they are not allowing other gambling types.

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Hello everyone, so I joined freebitcoin about a week ago, I can afford to buy around 500-1000 lottery tickets. But when I see last round the first winner has just 120 tickets but other winners got 10000+ tickets, if I buy around 1000 tickets, will it be worth and is it like gambling? Will it be addictive? Guys please tell me that lottery is second form of gambling or not?

Its a gambling still, anything that connects betting and risking money is a gambling. Chances of winning is as small as ants. There is no even guatantee that in 6 nos youll be able atleast to get one. Youll be that lucky enough when your number got a chance to be pick atleast two out of six numbers. Try to invest or do trading it is more reliable and profitable.

Yes, it is still gambling since you make a bet and expecting to win. Though it has a very slim or probability to win,you are spending your money and also, it is addicting.Also if you are betting daily,it will also become a vices.

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if i had to choose the top worst ways of spending money then buying a lottery ticket would have been in the top three for sure.

and i actually have the experience with buying lottery tickets and wasting my money on them, and as you have guessed i never have won anything in my life in any kind of lottery game ever. it is always either my bad luck or the fakeness of the lottery system!

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Quote from: Zohaib_Ali on July 29, 2016, 12:22:12 AM

Hello everyone, so I joined freebitcoin about a week ago, I can afford to buy around 500-1000 lottery tickets. But when I see last round the first winner has just 120 tickets but other winners got 10000+ tickets, if I buy around 1000 tickets, will it be worth and is it like gambling? Will it be addictive? Guys please tell me that lottery is second form of gambling or not?

Its a gambling still, anything that connects betting and risking money is a gambling. Chances of winning is as small as ants. There is no even guatantee that in 6 nos youll be able atleast to get one. Youll be that lucky enough when your number got a chance to be pick atleast two out of six numbers. Try to invest or do trading it is more reliable and profitable.

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Sure its gambling what you would say about lotery its just a game? Which you throw money to the jackpot, and play against others trying to get the main prizes. Makes no diference lotery of bitcoin as the real lotery systems, people keep gambling at lotery even with the soo many financial problems showing up.

That's individuals decision and they have the freedom to spend their money, I know lottery does not really make you lose big because you just have to bet a small amount of money hoping you can win the jackpot which normally millions. Even if you have problem, you still have the right to enjoy.

Lottery can in fact make you lose big, if you buy hundreds of lottery tickets, that is not really that different than putting hundreds of bets on the roulette, slots or blackjack.

Well lottery is a game of chances and luck so the odds pretty much are the same if you buy several tickets or if you buy a single one. If it's you it will be you whos going to win.

And that is one of the best gambling as long as you can afford the amount you are buying for tickets for lottery then that's fine. And as long as you are putting any amount of money into risk for a chance of winning some money, making it doubled,tripled or even higher. Then that is already consider that you are gambling with your own money.

Its just really fine when you do buy lottery tickets for seeking chances of winning jackpot, its not really bad as long you know your limitations on buying tickets and you dont compromise the money that are lend only for your needs. Using extra money will just be fine. Playing lottery is indeed a gambling because you are risking money to earn money.

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Sure its gambling what you would say about lotery its just a game? Which you throw money to the jackpot, and play against others trying to get the main prizes. Makes no diference lotery of bitcoin as the real lotery systems, people keep gambling at lotery even with the soo many financial problems showing up.

That's individuals decision and they have the freedom to spend their money, I know lottery does not really make you lose big because you just have to bet a small amount of money hoping you can win the jackpot which normally millions. Even if you have problem, you still have the right to enjoy.

Lottery can in fact make you lose big, if you buy hundreds of lottery tickets, that is not really that different than putting hundreds of bets on the roulette, slots or blackjack.

Well lottery is a game of chances and luck so the odds pretty much are the same if you buy several tickets or if you buy a single one. If it's you it will be you whos going to win.

And that is one of the best gambling as long as you can afford the amount you are buying for tickets for lottery then that's fine. And as long as you are putting any amount of money into risk for a chance of winning some money, making it doubled,tripled or even higher. Then that is already consider that you are gambling with your own money.

the amount of money in buying a lottery ticket is not an issue in my opinion. i think even if it was super cheap it wouldn't have been a good idea to put money in lottery! and it is always a gamble.

the difference is that people don't usually see or think about the odds, it is like playing a dice game with a very big multiplier like 9999X becasue the chances are that slim and it is slimmer the more people join in.

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Sure its gambling what you would say about lotery its just a game? Which you throw money to the jackpot, and play against others trying to get the main prizes. Makes no diference lotery of bitcoin as the real lotery systems, people keep gambling at lotery even with the soo many financial problems showing up.

That's individuals decision and they have the freedom to spend their money, I know lottery does not really make you lose big because you just have to bet a small amount of money hoping you can win the jackpot which normally millions. Even if you have problem, you still have the right to enjoy.

Lottery can in fact make you lose big, if you buy hundreds of lottery tickets, that is not really that different than putting hundreds of bets on the roulette, slots or blackjack.

Well lottery is a game of chances and luck so the odds pretty much are the same if you buy several tickets or if you buy a single one. If it's you it will be you whos going to win.

And that is one of the best gambling as long as you can afford the amount you are buying for tickets for lottery then that's fine. And as long as you are putting any amount of money into risk for a chance of winning some money, making it doubled,tripled or even higher. Then that is already consider that you are gambling with your own money.

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Sure its gambling what you would say about lotery its just a game? Which you throw money to the jackpot, and play against others trying to get the main prizes. Makes no diference lotery of bitcoin as the real lotery systems, people keep gambling at lotery even with the soo many financial problems showing up.

That's individuals decision and they have the freedom to spend their money, I know lottery does not really make you lose big because you just have to bet a small amount of money hoping you can win the jackpot which normally millions. Even if you have problem, you still have the right to enjoy.

Lottery can in fact make you lose big, if you buy hundreds of lottery tickets, that is not really that different than putting hundreds of bets on the roulette, slots or blackjack.

Well lottery is a game of chances and luck so the odds pretty much are the same if you buy several tickets or if you buy a single one. If it's you it will be you whos going to win.

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Sure its gambling what you would say about lotery its just a game? Which you throw money to the jackpot, and play against others trying to get the main prizes. Makes no diference lotery of bitcoin as the real lotery systems, people keep gambling at lotery even with the soo many financial problems showing up.

That's individuals decision and they have the freedom to spend their money, I know lottery does not really make you lose big because you just have to bet a small amount of money hoping you can win the jackpot which normally millions. Even if you have problem, you still have the right to enjoy.

Lottery can in fact make you lose big, if you buy hundreds of lottery tickets, that is not really that different than putting hundreds of bets on the roulette, slots or blackjack.

agree with you mate. playing lottery can really lose us big especially when we buy bunch of tickets thinking that more tickets means more chances to win. Well, this maybe true but let us be realistic to the fact that lottery has more number combinations than any gambling games out there - you need to buy hundreds or even thousands of combinations before you can really hit the jackpot. You can do that but your bet is much way bigger than your jackpot winning.

and its a matter of luck because even a single ticket holder will win if luck permits him, this habitual small way of gambling can be an easy passing way to become rich is really hitting the market i guess no one here doesn't want to be an instant millionaire right.

most of gambling games depend on luck and there will be very little number of gambling games in which experience and skill matter, for example in sports games we can use our previous experience and skill can help us in gambling. in case of lottery it depend totally on luck experience and skill cannot help you in lottery gambling.

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